My 2nd Tier List Of 20+ Telescopic Game Controllers Showdown! (Late 2024)

[@ThomasTheTankEngine22]

The only reason why backbone got popular was because of how locked down iOS was. It was essentially the only option. And it had the software polish you'd expect from a iPhone associated product. Apple users are allergic to choice so it was the perfect storm

[@GameTechTalk]

😂😂😂 "Apple users are allergic to choice so it was the perfect storm" Lil' bro is out there cooking, let 'em cook I say! You are 💯 correct friend, the Backbone on Apple at the time that it started out was definitely a massive launching pad. Plus, it got featured by Apple themselves quite a few times when they were showcasing gaming on their iPhones!

[@Jampper]

Because of your vids of the Abxylute S9. I ordered one from the kickstarter. Can't wait to have it. Thanks for covering it!

[@GameTechTalk]

You have no idea how happy that makes me to know I can help people with my videos. Funny enough, I struggle in my day-to-day to make decisions sometimes so I know how much having data and feedback can help, to know I can do that for others brings a great deal of joy to me. Thanks for sharing!

[@batpixi_]

​@GameTechTalk I missed thr kickstarter but still ordered the abxylute as well thanks to your video and used your link.

[@humblemudgames]

This is SUCH a good video, and watching it, I realized I don't get notified about your content enough. Hit that bell right away!

[@GameTechTalk]

Thank you so much Humblemud! I greatly appreciate 😊 I can say the same about you, been adding to my wishlist, thanks to your wonderful recommendations. I'll be picking up Decline's Drops very soon in fact! The way you showcased the parallel to Smash Bros totally convinced me!

[@crashbandicoot5636]

Great vid dude! What would you recommend for a 12" tablet (Poco Pad to be specific)? G8 Plus, D8 Pro, or Memo S3?

[@GameTechTalk]

G8 Plus is the better option for tablets. At 12", the Memo S3 tablet probably won't fit even. If you go for the S3 or D8 Pro, take your measurements first because I don't think any of them will work. Cheers!

[@crashbandicoot5636]

@@GameTechTalk Thanks for the reply bud, keep up the great content!

[@DamonteJB]

I got the x2s Bluetooth from watching your videos and I love it. Never had a problem with lag while playing path of titans. Ended up getting it on sale for $40. It’s perfect

[@GameTechTalk]

Glad that you did and thanks for your trust! I did not experience lag as well, more like some other controllers feel "snappier" though never to the point that the X2s BT feels like I can't keep up with the response time. Thankfully! That would've been terrible. 😅 Cheers!

[@acanthoscurriageniculata7141]

Have you tried it with streaming of any kind? Like xCloud, Steam Link etc. How is it?

[@DamonteJB]

@@acanthoscurriageniculata7141 I have not unfortunately

[@lyichi]

Thanks for this tierlist, it's very informative and helpful! Can I just suggest you keep the name, stats and price of thing you're discussing throughout the length of you talking about it so that viewers don't have to navigate to the start of each section to get that info. Keep up the awesome work!

[@GameTechTalk]

That's a good input, I could make them fully visible and keep them slightly translucent after the fact. That's a great suggestion, thank you!

[@AthifAmrulladien]

Nice video. The amount of effort you put to make this video should be intensely high... wonder which one works best for playing PUBG mobile on Galaxy S24 ultra?

[@GameTechTalk]

Yeah those videos are extremely time consuming but it does help that the data is captured from being an enthusiast in the market space, and reviewing all those other products

[@danielalexander9418]

Man I so happy, I ordered the gamesir x3 pro and I was thinking if it was a good idea, but you made me more secure of my decision, thanks man!

[@GameTechTalk]

I understand some of the disappointments people may have but the more I've been using it, the more GameSir's direction make sense. And with that hidden wireless mode, it's actually having that newfound appeal for me. I still haven't successfully managed to pair it but hopefully, GameSir hid a button combination to kick it because this thing definitely has that mode, the question is how to pair it with the dongle now!

[@humblemudgames]

I actually finally dug through some of my brother's things recently that were sitting around and found an old 2019 tablet he barely used that's strong enough to run Dreamcast, so this video came at a good time for me.

[@GameTechTalk]

That's awesome! Not gonna lie, a part of me hopes you might find some save games in there? 🥹 Cheers bud!

[@tony_tran]

Great list, some interesting thoughts on some controllers im interested in getting. Just a quick note i thibk the image you have for the d8 pro is actually the nornal d8 :)

[@GameTechTalk]

Argghh!! I keep making mistakes with that controller! 😅 Pretty sure I did one in the previous tier list too. Thanks for pointing it out and for the kind words too! :)

[@cppctek]

Great video man. I learned a lot. Love seeing controller experts break down a bunch of controllers in one videos. This slaps. ❤

[@GameTechTalk]

Thank you friend! No small feat to be deemed an expert by you, you are one yourself in many ways that I could never!

[@MinKiu410]

Ive got my hands on the G8 recently. I gotta say that its a slight bump in experience from the previous controllers. Now I wanna try the Abxylute so bad

[@GameTechTalk]

Hey MinKiu410 ! You've been on a controller journey, I love that for you!! So from what I understand, the G8 is your top now? What would you say is your second in line?

[@goobatroopa_]

The BSP-D9 looks awesome. This video came out at the perfect time for me. I've been trying to find a quality handheld experience with the Switch. Mobapad m6 HD's cramp my hands. NYXI Hyperion Pro's fit nicely and I love the stick caps but the controller randomly disconnects too often. Every telescopic controller i saw before this video has the right joystick positioned in a way that's just as silly and unergonomic as the original joycons. The BSP-D8 right stick looks more to the left than center and the D9 looks like the dream for ergonomics and heavy use of the right stick. Thank you so much.

[@GameTechTalk]

Oh man, sorry to hear about the M6-HDs! Yeah the ergonomic of the D9 is definitely it's strongest aspect and easily a top 3 "ergonomics" leader in the entire line up of products I talked about in this video.

[@比卡超-g5w]

@@GameTechTalk hi, which are the other 2 on the top 3?

[@GameTechTalk]

@@比卡超-g5w 56:54

[@AXL398]

This was such a great video. I'm really happy that you're doing another one of these in a few months. I really appreciate you bugging Gamesir about a G8 with a cooler. xD The more time passes and more products come out, the longer my list of demands gets for a perfect telescopic controller and the more excited I get to see what they come up with next. Your enthusiasm definitely rubbed off on me and I'll see you in your next video. :D

[@GameTechTalk]

Ahh that's such a nice comment! And rest assured, I'll keep dropping the hints! 🤣

[@lloyd.lemoncito]

Kudos, Sir Klef! Great tier list as always. I would like to add that the G8+ can be deemed S+ in countries like the Philippines where it can be purchased with the dongle at around 47 usd (other Filipinos might be here too and this might help them).

[@GameTechTalk]

GEEZUS!!!!! 47USD WITH the dongle?!?! Smh, I'm a bit jealous, I'd jump on the recolors in a heartbeat at that price. Thanks for sharing, hopefully that can help people as you mentioned! 😊

[@nadavpeled7562]

Hey man, the truth is I almost never comment on videos, mostly because it’s not easy for me to write in English (it’s my second language and it’s very different from my first) and also because I usually just don’t . But this time I felt I had to. For the past few weeks, I’ve been thinking about buying a gamepad, and I let that idea simmer. Last week, I decided to go for it and started researching. I have to say you’ve really helped me understand the field and what’s best for me. I truly appreciate it. I can’t explain it exactly , but watching you makes it clear you’re a good person. Tomorrow, I’ll finally place my order! I’m going to get the BSP D9 because I’m used to the shape of the PlayStation controller, and it’s the most comfortable for me. I also loved the fact that the joystick, buttons, and gamepad are at a 45-degree angle, unlike almost all the other options, which I find just underneath, there was more considerations in order to choose that one but they aren't exclusive to this option its just that option has them also, anyway I believe that difference will make for a better experience for me. You’ve exposed me to the field so much that I’m already considering future options. If I buy another one, it will probably be the Galileo G8+ or something similar. But there’s still time for that. Anyway, thank you so much, and I’ll keep following you. I’m already eager for more content! :)

[@GameTechTalk]

"but watching you makes it clear you’re a good person" My guy, you're going to make me tear up. Your message is so touching to me, you are the embodiment of what I hope to provide to people, thank you so very much for taking the moment to write me this beautiful comment, really! I'm glad you found the product that will serve your needs, and glad to have been an ally in your decision-making. I think you have the best approach, start with something affordable, that scratches many boxes, get acquainted with the "sport" and you know what? If things continue the way they have, the G8+ will be surpassed in a year's time, maybe even 6 months, who's to say. I'll be there then to share with you the latest and greatest options! :) I hope to continue to help you determine what your gaming needs are in the future. Cheers!

[@_rage_quitter_11]

A great great banger of a video with short notes of pros and cons about each one, man it was really enjoyable. But is it enough to satisfy me? Nahh. Keep bringing more of the good stuff Klef.

[@GameTechTalk]

Ahahaha! My favorite comment so far. No lie, I love to take on a challenge. Duly noted my guy, I'll keep 'em coming, thanks for the kind words!

[@TVCHLORD]

Gamesir G8/G8+ is the only controller that you should buy

[@Fioletowooki]

yep, they are just above of all others but you have to feel it in your hand.

[@GameTechTalk]

Definitely two "can't go wrong" options. I do think GameSir shook the market so hard that a lot of manufacturers took the blueprint and finally woke up. I get what you're saying, also there are a lot of new players that shouldn't be ignored and it's moving at turbo speed right now!

[@spxrkz7190]

Bsp d10s

[@Xx3SPAZxX]

@TVCHLORD not true I have the Easysmx m15 and it's ABSOLUTELY wonderful and cheap at $30

[@okers12]

And refuse to elaborate?

[@AishTalksTech]

Great video dude very thorough and easy to listen to

[@GameTechTalk]

Thanks Aish, glad to hear as such. That was the idea with this one, the kind of video you leave on a screen while making dinner and glance from time to time.

[@emregungor7]

Firstly, this is "the" list and your work on telescopic controllers is the best in KZbin. I want to ask, for bluetooth controllers. How long can a phone go before charging it when it is connected with bluetooth. I will decide according to that info to buy a controller with a bluetooth or only usb-c connection.

[@GameTechTalk]

Way to boost my ego!! Thank you so very much for the kind words wow! It would heavily depend on the game but I would say most modern flagship phones would be able to give you at least 5 hours on a full charge and with a healthy battery, and if not more. And that's when playing "more demanding" games on the App Store / Play Store, there are probably a few exceptions out there like say RE Village on iPhones but if we're talking proper "mobile" games, it'd be a safe bet. On less demanding games, it can be much much more! Edit: I should also add that phones usually have a much better "fast charging" solution than most so you can also get 50% within 15-30mins of charging on most flagships for another 2-3 hours of gaming.

[@emregungor7]

@@GameTechTalk Thank you very much for the detailed answer.

[@bitterbuffalo8997]

Is the wireless only of the Gamsir G8+ a concern if I'm playing older NES games that rely on quick input lag? Would you reccomend that I go with a wired option in that use case? Thank you!

[@GameTechTalk]

Retro gaming is notoriously challenging because emulators have inputs on top of the controllers themselves. With bluetooth 5.3 and how robust GameSir's implementation is, I gotta say, they really make it so that I don't experience a difference between wired and wireless, that's not to say that there is not maybe an extra 5ms in the mix but it's not substantial enough that I'd feel as though the convenience comes at a sacrifice. I hope this helps, cheers!

[@bitterbuffalo8997]

@@GameTechTalk It helps a lot, thanks!

[@MarcoCorvoo]

thanks to this channel I'm waiting for my first telescopic controller to arrive (bsp d10s for 35) You are the N1 youtuber dedicated to controller!

[@GameTechTalk]

Wow I greatly appreciate that, thank you! Let me know how much fun you're having once you get it if you have the chance, cheers!

[@aldebaran514.]

I went with the S9 because of your videos 😂 i was hesitating with the G8 + but i think the S9 gives you a bit more for your money in term of features and i like that we can buy new plates and new sticks/pads thru their website as well. And the S9 also has bluetooth connection so we're still able to play games like cod mobile.

[@GameTechTalk]

Thanks for your trust! The G8+ and S9 is an incredibly difficult debate to have because really, there is such a fine line that defines which I would say I prefer and quite frankly, I might have different answers on different days but it all boils down to how one does most of their gaming. If you are tethered to your phone/tablet, then it's a no brainer, the S9 it is. Lately, I've been finding myself doing a mix of tethered and untethered a lot and that's where the G8+ takes the lead for me. Either way, they both are phenomenal options and Abxylute also has a fantastic software solution, which leads me to believe they are laying down a foundation from which to build from. Such a brilliant solution already as it is, I'm already excited for what the future might bring!

[@aldebaran514.]

@@GameTechTalk oh yeah both devices have their own pros definitely. If i was a huge switch gamer maybe i would've consider the G8+ more but for the most part i always end up playing with the switch docked so. Either way it is nice to see how far the tech as gone with these devices. Keep up the great content btw 🤙

[@gregorybolivar5712]

First Pick for Me GameSir X-4 Aileron... RgB...Volume controls + -...Mixed Touch / LefT or Right Controller... Behave like JoyCon by switching Mode... works with Android / ios / PC / N-Switch... Perfect for the Pimax Portal 5.5" RaZeR Edge 6.8"... Second... BsP D8 Bluetooth Controller (Sky Black or / and Star Space White Edition) Best looking printed graphic texture design...RgB...Rumble...Nice fits those 8 inches Tablet... Also, Perfect for the Pimax Portal 5.5" RaZeR Edge 6.8", Lenovo Legion Y700 2023 8.8" Tablets... Sure... ipad Mini 6...7... 😎🙃🥸🧐🤓🤯

[@GameTechTalk]

Ahh I love this comment. Well, I certainly can't deny that you are consistent in your preferences my friend! 😊

[@gregorybolivar5712]

​@@GameTechTalk... Of Course....My friend... So many choices, but a " Game Tech Talk Edition" would be cool too... 🤓🧐👍🙌

[@maxxestevez3790]

Long form format going 🤙 to get a lot of details

[@GameTechTalk]

🫡 You know!

[@ramadhanisantoso2973]

Thanks for putting value as one of the criteria. Now we see that higher price doesn't automatically translate to best experience. Maybe the build quality is top notch, but if I can't enjoy using them, I'm not sure that's a good buy for me. On the flip side, cheap controllers might be the best solution since I commute everyday. If it breaks/lost, at least it's only the controller and not my wallet lol. Maybe I'd buy the premium one to use at home, and buy some BSPs for gaming sessions on train/ bus, that seems a good plan.

[@GameTechTalk]

I think that is a great idea. To paraphrase, you have people that always take the same sandwich at McDonald's, then you have the ones that like to alternate from time to time, try the limited edition items. Nothing wrong with being happy with what you like, I believe that I always get closer to knowing what I like by allowing myself to diversify. The solution you mentioned by having a premium and BSPs for your commute is an opportunity to do exactly that, diversify. By doing so, you'll have a better grasp of what you definitely prefer down the road, at least that's how I think! Cheers :)

[@Bleru]

I managed to get the easysmx15 for around 20$, maybe is not the best but for that price i think has good value

[@GameTechTalk]

It's a steal for $20! That's the one thing with the EasySMX, they list it at 60 but everyone I hear about paid considerably less. But they list it at 60 so that's what I have to refer to. @ $20 regular, that would've been a S for sure ahahahaah!

[@Irving_alexis011]

Yeeeeeeeeeees!!! This is the video i was waiting for!

[@GameTechTalk]

Ahhhh!! I am soooo happy to release that one!! I know it helps a lot of people decide what to go for so I hope this gets shared to as many viewers as possible. Thanks for all your support!!

[@hardknock55]

Backbone should be a D tbh. I had two and my 2nd gen broke on me so I grabbed a GameSir g8 for $66 off amazon while I wait for my abxylute s9 to arrive.

[@GameTechTalk]

Yup, I had two break on me too, the quality is not what it's made up to be. However, the warranty experience was positive so I'll give 'em that but I'm ready to move on from Backbone until they release new stuff.

[@skyebozzed3349]

Just got the AO Bing, thank you sir

[@GameTechTalk]

With pleasure friend!

[@MasterSabo05]

If you only could have either the G8 Plus or Abxylute S9, which would you pick?

[@GameTechTalk]

G8 Plus for me, the sole reason is the habits with which I game lately. The G8 Plus is more fitted for any handheld, iOS, Android AND Switch. It also is friendlier to when I want to use XR glasses which I've been enjoying A LOT lately! That said, I'm kind of excited to revisit the S9 when the retail versions start shipping!

[@skreeog]

Ehi, nice video. I have many of these controllers, but i must "contest" you on something you said. I have the scuf controller paired with my iphone, i have put it in a drawer for *several* weeks, because i was using the G8+ (which is better, but more cumbersome), but the battery is still about 80%, not dead at all, not even close.

[@GameTechTalk]

Please contest to your heart's content! That means mine is definitely defective and I have grounds to reach out to Scuf, thank you very much for your comment cause this is a serious problem and it's been from day one, been charged no more than half a dozen times. Again, thanks a lot!

[@skreeog]

@@GameTechTalk Yeah, of course! I hope i have not presented myself in a negative way, i was trying to be helpful, i enjoy your content a lot, it simply was something i noticed. And i do hope they change it, because if yourse discharges so fast on its own its absolutely defective. I never noticed that behaviour even when i purchased it, and i kept updating it with the scuf software, it never behaved that way, so perhaps yes, yours is faulty and deserve a replacement, especially because it's not a cheap controller.

[@GameTechTalk]

@@skreeog No no not at all! As I said in the video, I'm a giver, I drop long comments ahahaha! You genuinely helped me, I thought it was weird but it's not unlike something I had never seen but if yours don't do that and mine does, it means there's something abnormal. Don't worry friend, I'm not bitter like that ahahahh!

[@amazingrean]

I just got the g8+ for $50, it’s been great so far. Just panicked when i couldn’t pair it to my phone, turns out you have to hold the pairing button 😅. But the switch and android mode works out of the box.

[@GameTechTalk]

50$ for the G8+ is a mega steal, gg on scoring that deal!

[@humblemudgames]

that BSPD8 Pro might be my pick for my uses

[@GameTechTalk]

A very fine solution indeed! I don't know how much telescopic gaming you've done in the past but the D8 Pro is definitely one that can effectively sell the concept to newcomers and seasoned gamers alike. A force to be reckoned with, without breaking the bank. Let me know what you think if you do get it! Cheers :)

[@TyTango]

That Elo Vagabond stands out to me, i just wish they made a tablet version also....

[@GameTechTalk]

The "overly gaming" aesthetic is usually indicative of one of two things, they completely nailed the ergonomics OR they overdid it and it's too excentric for its own good. I'm willing to put my money on the first option but I'll test it out first hand very soon. You got me excited for it just now, thanks!

[@ELOLimited]

@@GameTechTalk Ergonomics can be improved in my opinion. Lots to learn after our first product :). The app is being improved weekly as well. Just playing catchup at thsi point but lots of people love the controller!

[@theSeventhDruid]

Hello, i have a question. I ordered G8+ for my Lenovo y700 2023 tablet and it has second USB-C on a side. How it gonna work if i connect G8+ to Y700 using short type c - type c cable? Will it still consume battery / charge something or just work as non Bluetooth wired controller? P.s. I ordered it from China so it gonna take a few weeks to ship, so can't test now. Well, at least 40$ looks like real value deal lol.

[@GameTechTalk]

Technically, based off of what I recall from the software, there is no "power only" mode meaning that by playing wired, which you can do btw, the controller will be powered by the phone, but would technically also charge the battery at the same time, based off of how much power is being sent from your phone. So the result is more dependant on the phone/tablet than anything else as not every device output the same power from their port. And yes, $40 for a G8+ is a steal!

[@LMKonosuba]

Maybe this sounds a bit off topic, but it does relate to some models on the list (for example the gamesir x4). Have you thought about doing reviews of cell phone coolers that fit with this type of models, because Telescopic Game Controllers are booming, but the heat generated can be a long-term problem that affects the life of the equipment. Because I have seen a large category of these and well it is difficult to say which one... or that it is really good and does not break down after a week of use?

[@GameTechTalk]

I might do a compile video at some point where rather than testing that aspect of a specific controller, I pin multiple in one video and make that specific subject the center of it but that's not in the production timeline for now. More of a "maybe down the road" kind of idea.

[@key421]

If you had to pick one of the S tier controllers for the new Red Magic Nova (android 11inch tab) what would it be?

[@GameTechTalk]

G8 Plus. The G8 Plus, in my personal opinion, works better at larger devices than any other options that can still do it as well. Next in line would probably be D8 Pro but it might be too deep for a tighter hold.

[@key421]

@@GameTechTalk Ok I bought the controller and I love it, one thing I noticed was A B and X Y where reporting backwards, is there a way to remap these for android?

[@GameTechTalk]

@@key421 There is, hold Capture + bottom most face button for like 5 seconds, the controller will vibrate and then the values will swap. Or, you can remove the buttons (they are magnetic) and swap them to match the Xbox/Nintendo layout, whichever your prefer!

[@raychii7361]

I love Bsp because they keep improving with each model

[@GameTechTalk]

I agree

[@alexgroves91]

Help me out as I'm abit confused. Androiid mobile user, enjoy fortnite and have gamepas, and rumble and cooling would be nice. D8 Pro, D10s, MO5, M15 or JK02? What would you be recommending??

[@GameTechTalk]

Well I would want to ask you how much heat throttling is a problem for you? Because if it's only a little, I'd say go M15. If it's a lot, I'd say that the JK02 is probably your best bet but the sticks are quite aggressive in their curve, you should watch the review I made of it, you'll see what I mean by the sticks being aggressive. Cheers!

[@Gol_D_Looks]

Bruh the EasySMX M15 is a secret S tier

[@GameTechTalk]

KappaHD! It's definitely one of those that leaned more towards S and B for me, hence why the Tablet edition actually powered through!

[@gregorybolivar5712]

Awesome content as always... 🧐🤯😎🙃🤔

[@GameTechTalk]

Thanks Gregory! :)

[@gregorybolivar5712]

@@GameTechTalk Indeed...🙌🙌🙌

[@oxymoral265]

I thought the memo s3 tablet version have problems with phone camera bump? Wouldn’t that make it incompatible with a lot of newer phones?

[@GameTechTalk]

That will vary per phones but I also would recommend picking up a case that even out the camera bump in which case it won't be a problem at all, like you can see when I used my RedMagic, that was a perfect fit.

[@muhdzaidi3051]

A fair warning to people who are interested in X2s bluetooth...the controller randomly turns off mid game in DS4 mode on the latest firmware. It could be a major issue for people with iOS devices. I did try downgrading the firmware, it didn't fix the issue sadly

[@GameTechTalk]

I wasn't aware of this issue, thanks for bringing it forward for viewer to be aware. Hopefully GameSir will fix this soon with a new firmware.

[@Drivenby]

Klef do any of these coolers actually do something OBJECTIVELY? Not just cool the back . But better cpu or battery temps?

[@GameTechTalk]

Oye @Drivenby! It's been a minute!! Yes absolutely. They can do both actually, if we think of cooling in a PC case, it's hard to understand how those coolers do help but cellphones, being mroe often than not passively cooled, it's a "closed" pocket of temperature that builds up inside. Plus, everything is so compact. By applying cool from the outside, it actually does make a sometimes shocking difference to the overall temperature of the components. That said, not every cooler are as efficient. The Memo S3 cooler is form than it is function, to stay polite hehehe!

[@gab882]

can do a tier list for large tablet controllers? 12 inch. about 290mm length

[@GameTechTalk]

Interesting idea, I might consider it, thanks for the suggestion!

[@mattdavis9601]

The only one of these I own is the X2 Pro. Mine still works perfectly. I still really like it and use it often. That said; I get why you rated it a "C" in today's market. I will say that there was a time when it was an S-tier unit and it certainly won me over to the GameSir family. I'm happy, happy, happy that I stuck around to the end of the video. That GameStop Galileo rebadge is absolutely gorgeous. I love the PlayStation-esq buttons and the red trim. It appears to be the sexiest version of the G8G. I've bought other GameStop branded accessories before. I can be a bit of a brand snob about certain things; however, to me the GameStop brand is A-OK, Dr. Jones. I hope this unit will be sold in their brick and mortar stores. I wouldn't be shocked if I'm able to nab one for around X2S pricing not that long after launch.

[@GameTechTalk]

Oh yeah, the X2 Pro when it fresh released was definitely the pinnacle. That was during an era that the competition was Backbone One and Kishi V1 / V2 and a bunch of unreliable alternatives from China. I really like the Raptor's look. In fact, it's what the RedMagic color layout should've been as far as I am concerned.

[@mattdavis9601]

@@GameTechTalk - It's funny that RedMagic accessories by and large aren't red. Even their phones don't use much red anymore. They might as well call themselves "BlackMagic" at this point.

[@GameTechTalk]

@@mattdavis9601 BlackMagic sounds like an R&B song from the 2000! 😅 Totally agree with you that it doesn't make much sense these days!

[@eddiehoang7066]

G8+ vs S9 which one is the better in your opinion.

[@GameTechTalk]

I'd give the edge (but ever so slightly) to the G8+. Mainly because it just gives me that much more freedom, which is extremely important for me. The ability to not have to worry about having to choose between port access and controller is important in many situations. Being able to prop up my phone/tablet and continue gaming within seconds is just that extra level of convenience that gives it the edge for me.

[@spxrkz7190]

Do you think you can cover the crkd Neo s?

[@GameTechTalk]

I don't think Crkd sees value in creators of my size. Or maybe they do and I'm the one they'd rather not collab with, who's to say. If I buy a Crkd product, they double the price, half for the product, the other half for shipping. Due to that reason, I have no intention of purchasing Crkd products for my personal self. My apologies.

[@NoBodysGamer]

Im confused about your GamWing AoBing Max comment, you say it converts USB-C to audio and others dont, than what others do? Isnt it what the audio jack supposed to do? to take USB-C audio from the phone and convert it to analog to plug-in headphones?

[@GameTechTalk]

Yes but it's a different protocol. And that protocol is only active when you are connected (and using) that specific device whereas AoBing could be connected bluetooth to your PC, while still capturing the audio from the USB-C plugged into your phone and outputted to the 3.5mm jack. Other devices that have both bluetooth and wired don't do that. I explain it a bit more into the AoBing review but quite frankly, I would recommend to not put too much thought into it, it's gonna be a useless feature for 99.9% of people to be honest. It was just surprising to see on a controller.

[@CvntForceDrama]

get screwed out of $200: “Money well spent cuz it helped everyone else” what a incredibly great guy 😅🙏

[@GameTechTalk]

In the end, I worked out of that loss with all the videos I've been putting out to review their products but I must admit, there are a few times in my life where I overpaid and saw the silver lining, that's one of those times. Here's one product category that I never did see one though, gacha games! 😅 That's always a guaranteed loss and the games make you feel punished by gimping you hard cause you didn't keep spending.

[@CvntForceDrama]

@@GameTechTalk absolutely, gacha is a bad industry practice all around. I find it surprising that there isn’t more controversy for gacha games getting children and teens hooked to the obvious gambling aspects involved. Morally those companies should feel bad 😅 they make too much money for that, I suppose.

[@duksso]

Thank you for the video. I have a Razer Ultra Kissy and a scuf nomad, and I have ordered a s9. Please let me know the model name of the game controller in 58:01, and if there is a link to see related information, please let me know.

[@GameTechTalk]

It looks awesome doesn't it? Unfortunately, it won't be released before 2025 according to the maker. It will be called the BSP N02, I'll be keeping my eyes peeled for that one!

[@duksso]

@@GameTechTalk That's right! bsp n02 has all the features I want. I have another reason to live until 2025. lol

[@GustavoFil350]

That Astro Bot controller is a treasure

[@GameTechTalk]

You got taste is all I can say! 🫡

[@LMKonosuba]

Another additional question, I saw that the memo s3 tablet comes with a cooler to attach. Do you know if the abxylute s9 can be attached to a cooler or if it cannot be used in conjunction with a cooler?

[@GameTechTalk]

It cannot be used with the Memo S3 cooler, I can say that much. The Memo S3 cooler specifically fits the railing system's backing that they have, which I haven't seen other controllers have exactly the same. There may be other accessory solutions like it but if there is, I haven't come in contact with them.

[@furqanamjad2448]

Quick question, somewhere I heard gamesir x3 pro only supports android phones with Qualcomm processors? Is it true? Won't support pixel with tensor?

[@GameTechTalk]

I haven't been aware of such a predicament but I would be a bit surprised if being honest. As far as I know, controller support API are part of the Android OS and not so much the chipset. I guess nothing's impossible but I would be extremely surprised to learn that this is indeed the case.

[@hnk9856]

Do you think the EasySMX could be more versatile for phones than the Memo S3 (tablet version)? You can use it with a cooler with phones, unlike the tablet version that will only fit with tablets, and it's easier to use with smaller power banks for Bluetooth. I kind of feel like they should swap tiers. I bought one for $40 along with the Memo S3 cooler...

[@Xx3SPAZxX]

I think they're equal it just depends if you have a phone or tablet. Phone one isnt great for tabs and tablet one aint great for phones

[@hnk9856]

​@@Xx3SPAZxX Yeah, exactly. I just meant that as the EasySMX is more versatile - *for phones*, they should be ranked at least equal, not? :D

[@Xx3SPAZxX]

@@hnk9856 yup I agree

[@GameTechTalk]

What's up guys! The cooler can be equally used with both the phone and tablet version, that doesn't change. Here's how I base my M15 vs S3 score. M15 is listed at 60. Memo S3 is listed at 40 tops, that's one major reason. Whereas I can somewhat partially agree with what @Xx3SPAZxX said, I can't quite fully. The EasySMX M15 (or Memo S3 phone) is not only not great for tablets, it's not compatible at all unless you SERIOUSLY mod it. Like, buying a new ribbon cable, cracking it opened, etc etc. On the other end, the tablet version does indeed not work perfectly with every phone, for example, the iPhone Pro bumps is somewhat of a nuisance, but it's useable still. My RedMagic? No issues at all with the tablet version. That's why. The tablet version WILL WORK on phones, some better than others. The phone version WILL NOT work on tablets, and then the price thing. That's where my logic was but if I had not taken these two into account, I would've rated them both as A. I hope that explains my thought process a little better. Cheers guys, thanks for your support!

[@Xx3SPAZxX]

@@GameTechTalk ahh I thought the phone version could stretch enough for smaller tablets. But if it can't even do smaller tablets then your scoring does make sense

[@stephenbayley1441]

Abkylute S9 or Gamesir G8 Plus?

[@GameTechTalk]

A very difficult choice to make in all honesty. Lately, I gravitate more towards the G8 Plus just because it is a bit more versatile in the way that I want to use it with my various devices. If you know that you have no interest in connecting/disconnecting between devices, the S9 might be the better pick.

[@skreeog]

Uh, sorry for the second message. Could you explain better the "secret xbox mode", please? i do have a tarantula AND a G8+, you're saying i could use the g8+ with the tarantula dongle on my pc as an xbox controller? Could you elaborate?

[@GameTechTalk]

Yup, you absolutely can, and no worries for the second message, word on the street is the algorithm loves it! 😂 I would refer you to this video where I go more in-depth about this function: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJebn6ahZtN4m9E That ought to give you the info you're looking for but in a nutshell, capture button + left most face button will kick in that green light, when under that blinking light? You can pair with the dongle and effectively use your controller with 2.4Ghz rather than Bluetooth, crazy right? Unfortunately, it didn't give me 1000Hz with the G8+ but I think someone in the comment said it did. Cheers!

[@mythydamashii9978]

The BSP getting high ranking 😮 I might try them next

[@GameTechTalk]

Yup, all things considered, they do the job and for an extremely affordable price!

[@alijev2217]

Which one to buy jk02 or bsp d10s?

[@GameTechTalk]

Dilemmas dilemmas! Let me know if I can help with your decision, cheers!

[@LMKonosuba]

What do you think would be the best Telescopic Game Controller with a cooler that fits phones with a large camera module?

[@GameTechTalk]

The BSP-D10s. It just has a better depth than most, I mean it can fit a Switch so there is NO WAY that a phone, any phone, can't fit.

[@LMKonosuba]

@@GameTechTalk So is it better than the memo s3? Or does the memo s3 not fit phones (including the case) that are 15 cm thick?

[@GameTechTalk]

​@@LMKonosuba Considerably. Not even comparable. The cooler of the Memo S3 is not very good to be honest. It pushes "cool" air onto the phone. Whereas the other coolers apply direct cooling effect onto the body, potentially lowering the temperature of the inner components off the phone.

[@LMKonosuba]

@@GameTechTalk Better tell me right away that I go for BSP-D10 hahaha..... but now that I look, there is a BSP-D10S variant... which one is the best and what is the difference? And the link you have posted for this control, is that where you bought it from?

[@GameTechTalk]

@@LMKonosuba The D10s has the cooler, the D10 does not. Make sure you get the cooler! And yes, that is where I bought it from indeed :)

[@LMKonosuba]

Does the G8+ support phones with large camera modules? Because I see it listed as S tier almost everywhere I check but they don't mention that aspect....although I think I saw somewhere that when they put a samsung s24 ultra in it it didn't fit properly due to the thickness of the camera module. Could you confirm this?

[@GameTechTalk]

Yes and no, no because I don't have the S24 Ultra but I do have a Galaxy Z Fold 4 that has a very similar array of camera placement. When you crack it open, the cameras will not all fit into the cove that gets created by stretching the controller, so you would need to remove the little tab and with that removed, you're good to go. With that said, because the G8+ has complete case compatibility, my preferred approach (and what I do with my phone) is that I have a case that makes the camera module flush to the case. It's very common to prevent the cameras from being damaged from a fall or something. With that on, you never have to worry about the tab, I like that approach best personally.

[@icarlosct4596]

I'm going with Tessen

[@GameTechTalk]

You found what you like, no problems with that. Cheers and thanks for watching!

[@ZHIGZAGON-]

Gamesir G8+ Still is Top S to Me ❤

[@GameTechTalk]

It's hard to dethrone for sure!

[@alexodromo2600]

The G8 plus vs S9 dilemma has been driving me crazy for weeks!!😫 Which one should I get as a controller for wii emulation, fps, and casual gaming with other friends' consoles? I'm being so annoying about this cuz I don't want to regret this purchase

[@Ultrasixx]

I dont have the S9 but i do have the G8+ and boy oh boy, its amazing. Dont think u can go wrong with the G8+

[@GameTechTalk]

I don't think you would regret either way but someone asked me a similar question today (was it you actually?) and the only answer I can give is that as much as I think both are phenomenal, I personally have a slight preference for the G8+ just because by being bluetooth first, it gives me that extra bit of freedom. With that said, the Abxylute S9 achieves just a bit more overall but at least when comparing both, the freedom aspect takes it over the slightly more features (which I wouldn't use as much anyway). If I wasn't a KZbinr, I'd still get both personally but I have a problem so don't take me as reference! 😅

[@alexodromo2600]

Thank you so much for filling this rabbithole I had for weeks

[@azzzzuuuu]

Hey, the x2s is a b while x2s bluethooth is a c, in the review you say it's practically the same, so the tier difference is due to BT's price?

[@GameTechTalk]

It's a mix of many things, one aspect is how the X2s BT is in a sub-section that has seen alternatives since, such as the JK02 that pushes its perceived value down. Conversely, the X2s USB-C, often being shown for less in cost than BT, retains all of what makes it great, on top of having overall better performance due to being an immediate connection. I think the performance element could've been mitigated if the X2s BT had been BT 5.2 or 5.3, I don't think GameSir confirms that information as I remember looking for it but I'm pretty sure it's a 5.0 protocol which is from an era where Bluetooth wasn't too focused on latency.

[@azzzzuuuu]

Wow, great explanation! you really are a true expert in that matter. Thanks, im on the fence with this one, the market is really bad in my country so for now I'll get either the x2s or x2s bt na then after some time I'll check what's best, maybe the g8+'s price will be acceptable

[@GameTechTalk]

@@azzzzuuuu My best advice would be, if you have an iPhone, go X2s BT, because the USB-C model can't be configured on iOS. If you have an android and don't care for Bluetooth, go the USB-C model, it's better in latency and overall reliability, plus no need to charge it. The X2s BT's biggest advantage over USB-C is that it looks so much better! 🤣

[@azzzzuuuu]

@@GameTechTalk couple od videos from you later, I'm ordering the easysmx m15 😁😁😁 that market is crazy

[@GameTechTalk]

@@azzzzuuuu Saw your comment on my other video, thanks for your comments!

[@Brothaken]

yo for the x4 its a xbox mobile controller does it have steam link and ps remote play?

[@GameTechTalk]

The X4 can be used to operate Steam Link but not Remote Play, so you need to get an app called PSPlay, that one will work better than Remote Play even but it's not free, it costs like $5USD.

[@Sk8boi-D]

I hope someone can release a controller for big camera bumps. I've tried almost everything and still can't find one that fits my phone snug without popping out

[@GameTechTalk]

What phone do you have? Also, if your phone has accessories that can even out the camera bump, that fixes the issue for most controllers that have a flexible connector like the GameSir ones and EasySMX ones. That or a BSP which is so deep (they are designed to work with Switch too) completely cancels out the issue.

[@Sk8boi-D]

@@GameTechTalk I got the honor magic 6 pro. The camera just doesn't fit in that gap. I tried every gamesir. I thought the x3 pro would work with the movable cooler, even that don't. Same with the M15. I guess I have to try the BSP. Hopefully that will work since it's deep.

[@GameTechTalk]

@@Sk8boi-D Let me know how that turns out for you, if it doesn't I would be out of ideas to be honest.

[@TyTango]

I just wish the G8+ was cleaner for a tablet. I hate seeing springs and dont want to have to pay extra for some 3d prints to mod it. I game on GFN with my Galaxy tab S9, i hope in the future they'll make tablet versions also

[@GameTechTalk]

It's not the cleanest look but what I do is I put scotch tape behind my devices, this way I don't scratch the back with the sharp corners. The coils being exposed I don't mind, I strum them often even 😅 As long as I don't scratch my things, I'm ok but I totally understand why some people might find it off-putting and worrying!

[@TyTango]

@GameTechTalk will you do a video with the 3d prints attached to the G8+ on an 11"+ tablet? I would love to see that actually. It might persuade me into buying it. I had seen a G8+ for sale on Aliexpress for $50-55

[@GameTechTalk]

@@TyTango I might, I'm asking GameSir if they'll send your boy the new colors. 😅 If so, that would give me grounds for a new G8+ video, I could go over the colors and might as well feature the extender while at it. We'll see!

[@TyTango]

@@GameTechTalk dang! I'd love to see that. Especially that Hulk colored one lol

[@Kausarrrrrr]

Hay brother what about your new 8bit do 2c video... Will you publishing?

[@GameTechTalk]

Haven't gotten around to that yet, I'm having an idea take shape in my head where I'll talk about a couple controllers, the 2C would be included in that conversation.

[@Kausarrrrrr]

@@GameTechTalk waiting man ... 🥰

[@ImAWSMDanny]

You have so many, no way you will notice if I sneak over and borrow one....

[@GameTechTalk]

It would probably take me a few weeks before I do yeah! 😂 (Depends which one though!)

[@ImAWSMDanny]

@@GameTechTalk Just enough time to complete some of my backlog 😂

[@WubstahWulf]

I had gotten a backbone this year actually and within a year like 5 months orso the right side of the controller stopt working correctly and after some research its seems to be a common issue

[@GameTechTalk]

I had two Backbone do exactly what you describe, though the warranty experience was positive, I can give 'em that. Out of warranty I wouldn't know, have you tried reaching out to them?

[@WubstahWulf]

​@@GameTechTalk I am planning to send it out for repair, but at the same time, I am also looking into getting one of the Gamesir G8 controllers. I like the USB-C version, but the Bluetooth version has more features. However, there is also the Abxylute S9 to consider

[@GameTechTalk]

@@WubstahWulf Ahh the plight that is having too many options ahah! Cheers and happy gaming!

[@Terran343]

i love my GameSir x4 for portability, but i miss the easy way to map buttons on my G8, for some reason it glitches the maping function by bluetooth.

[@GameTechTalk]

I'll try to do some more mapping gaming with it soon, I use it from time to time but I must come clean, I don't play a lot of games that require mapping at the moment! I was playing Archero 2 but because it's a portrait game, I didn't bother bringing a controller into it!

[@Terran343]

@@GameTechTalk maybe it could be my game that doesnt allow wireless debugging, the game is Metal Slug Awakening. Just like Fortnite, that won't launch unless you turn off wireless debugging

[@MrMilkyCoco]

I got the razer kishi ultra why? cause itll come to me in 3 days >< The Galileo 8 is what I wanted but I wanted an actual app to use which ios doesnt have unless you choose to use their bluetooth variant. Also cause I live in hawaii itll come to me in early november and I dislike having to wait long. The abxylute s9 is on preorder so Ill even be waiting longer >

[@GameTechTalk]

If you got the monnies for it, all good, that's really the one major gripe with it, the rest is just preferences or competition coming up with more features over time, etc. I'm excited for the S9 to ship!

[@LMKonosuba]

340 / 5,000 Do you think you could consider phones with a large camera module (brands like Samsung, Xiaomi have phones like that) whose total thickness reaches up to 1.4-1.5 centimeters (thickness of the phone + camera module) and it is difficult to know if they will fit properly in the controller, since there is not much information in this regard.

[@GameTechTalk]

Ahh ok, I saw your other comment on another video. So it is the thickness of phone AND camera module. I was confused for a moment. I took note of what you asked, I can't promise I'll make this a constant metric to bring but when I try to re-assess my testing procedures, I'll see how I can effectively integrate that and make it a repeated action between reviews. Cheers!

[@LMKonosuba]

@@GameTechTalk I would really appreciate it if you could implement that, because it is a question that I always see in many forums or sites (reddit, youtube, sales sites like amazon and aliexpress). They buy "X" controller and when they receive the product, regardless of whether it arrives in good condition or not, the phone simply does not fit and they do not know which controller to choose... or they start with the mods, but not with the extension ones as you showed with one of the controllers, but rather cutting parts of the rubber so that the device can fit... and well, it is not adequate and not ideal.

[@spxrkz7190]

May I ask why is the d8 better than the 9 and 10?

[@GameTechTalk]

It's just a little more of everything compared to the other two. Feels better in quality, slightly more features, same price if not less, stretches wider. Yeah, I'd say it's just better rounded overall.

[@leithmay5194]

Memo do a S2 model that is very gamesir x2ish/ easySMX 05ish.

[@GameTechTalk]

Yup, the Memo S2 is literally the EasySMX M05. Funny enough, when I reviewed the M05 and M10 *I did in the same video), I spoke my mind about how it felt like EasySMX had contracted two different companies to make a product each because the design language was inconsistent between the two... Unbeknownst to me that the Memo S2 was the carbon copy of the M05. Memo are pretty talented, I'll give 'em that but from what I can tell, it might not even be "Memo" but rather an invisible brand that contract for other brands... Still haven't cracked that code.

[@leithmay5194]

Good to see you onto and good morning from Australia 🦘

[@SeanKirklandSMFK]

It really bums me out how disposable you treat these controllers. You tell backbone owners that they're holding onto their controller out of some misplaced emotion, then you say of your S-tier that it could last you up to a year before you'll need to buy a new one. In another section, you imply that consumers buy these just to toss one in every room of their house, so they always have something at the ready. Most people don't need functionality past solid buttons and accurate sticks. Great build quality should mean that the unit lasts a long time. The people that watch these reviews aren't trying to draft controllers for a fantasy team, they're trying to make a purchasing decision on something they expect to last. This whole video comes off as very condescending to people that don't have money to throw at tech every year

[@GameTechTalk]

Disposable is not necessarily a bad thing. Let me put this in perspective. That $20 controller that you are referring my comment from, if it lasts you a year, it's great for $20 no? The reality is a Backbone is 5 times the price, even if it gives you 5 years which I bet it won't based off of the defects that I had, that means you'll potentially shield yourself from a far superior experience in a year, in two, in three. I get your point, I was born in an era that things used to last a decade but we got to get on with the times. And I wouldn't say it's every company but there are a lot of them out there selling you a product as if it was made as good as 30-40 years ago when it's not, but charging you the premium that makes it believe that it is. As for having a controller in every room, I also hear you there but as a reviewer, I cater to multiple different buyers. Some people want to collect them, as I do. Some people want to have them in various rooms cause they want a solution no matter where, no matter when. Some people want to make conscious decision because they hope to buy one and have it last 5 years. That's ok too. And that's how I know that you are new to my channel, cause if you go back to my other videos, you'll see how much time I spend in the comments helping people find their one option, not a dozen. Should I not help the person that wants to buy a dozen for that reason? I wish to help everybody that wants help from me. I don't wish to attack the way you purchase these products, rather I want to provide you with as much information as possible to assist you in making educated choices backed by opinion and data. Your shopping habits concerns only you. It's just a respect thing that I have for the different viewers that watch my videos, sorry if I offended you, it wasn't my goal. Thanks!

[@mclovin2005]

BSP G8 FTW

[@GameTechTalk]

Woop woop!

[@CvntForceDrama]

It’s unbelievable how rabidly and aggressively this market is evolving. I literally can’t keep up lol

[@GameTechTalk]

Yup, I keep getting amazed and we barely have time to stop and smell the roses. An amazing time for gaming enthusiasts for sure!

[@PInoyHenyoRito]

Which one best for an ipad less latancy that can be attached with a case pla pls help

[@GameTechTalk]

The G8+, despite being bluetooth, has an incredibly low level of latency, I would suggest that one primarily. If not, there are a few tablet options but most require modding of some kind unless you are using one of the smaller iPad (iPad Mini essentially). Which iPad would you be using with a controller?

[@PInoyHenyoRito]

@@GameTechTalkipad pro 11 m4 still g8+?

[@GameTechTalk]

@@PInoyHenyoRito Oh yeah, for sure!

[@Xx3SPAZxX]

Yo i just wanna correct you on something you do often in english. You use the word "that" like the word "este" but it actually translates to "ese" or "el/la". You should say "this" instead which means "este".

[@GameTechTalk]

I appreciate, I can always improve my english! Sorry to ask you, could you point a time during the video, this way I can place it better in a sentence of how I make the mistake. The context will help me improve over time. Sorry to ask you, and thank you for your help!

[@Xx3SPAZxX]

Of course. You correctly use "this" often in this video but not always. 8:43 14:01 15:06 18:44

[@Xx3SPAZxX]

To be more clear, when talking about an item in your possession especially when its in your hands you want to say "this" to ensure the audience knows youre talking about the item you're holding instead of "that" which might be something different from what you're holding

[@GameTechTalk]

@@Xx3SPAZxX Awesome, thank you very much, I will try to better pay attention and correct over time.

[@GameTechTalk]

@@Xx3SPAZxX Ahhh ok, thank you this clarification did help me understand better!

[@melxb]

💪

[@GameTechTalk]

🙏

[@LMKonosuba]

56:55 full list with names

[@GameTechTalk]

Thanks, as well as specific links (reviews & buy link) of each controllers in the description if needed. Thank you all for watching!

[@java2894]

Bro is so much controller u have its easier to do a top 10 or top 5 controller

[@GameTechTalk]

I could do that down the road, that's a great suggestion actually, thanks!

[@spxrkz7190]

Do you think you can cover the crkd Neo s?

[@GameTechTalk]

I don't think Crkd sees value in creators of my size. Or maybe they do and I'm the one they'd rather not collab with, who's to say. If I buy a Crkd product, they double the price, half for the product, the other half for shipping. Due to that reason, I have no intention of purchasing Crkd products for my personal self. My apologies.