Telescopic's "8BitDo Ultimate Mobile Gaming Controller for Android" IS HERE!

[@TechDweeb]

Awesome overview! I'm really excited to try this one out

[@BilJoeJaggins]

@@TechDweeb A wild TechDweeb appears!

[@GameTechTalk]

👀😊😍

[@hongkaiyuan]

@TechDweeb please review this controller.

[@Gundemonium]

Damn, they gave you one almost whole month before the release, congrats!

[@GameTechTalk]

Thank you very much! Seems like some of those companies out there see me. I appreciate the gesture from 8BitDo, that said, I still am hoping this video will inspire them to come back stronger in a year or so! 😊

[@AXL398]

I feel like 8bitdo was leading the pack and now they're falling behind in terms of innovation. That being said, come on 8bitdo! Give us a telescopic controller with a cooling fan!

[@pepito69]

Cooling fan and USB c that works with both android and iPhone is all I want in a telescopic controller

[@GameTechTalk]

I tend to agree, I always wondered why and I talk briefly about it near the end of the video. That's the one logical idea as to why they changed but maybe they just fell out of interest and found a comfort zone that they prefer to operate from. That said, their reputation precedes them.

[@GameTechTalk]

Technically, that's the X3 Pro but it has some other quirks.

[@AXL398]

@@GameTechTalk Apart from the quirks, there's also the form factor. The X3 looks like a beefy X2. A lot of people have described the g8 like a regular Xbox controller but with a space in the middle for the phone. I want that... But with a cooler. XD

[@kurisu628]

No rumble, no gyro, difficult to mod for a tablet...still no buyer's regret for my Galileo G8+ yet! Whew!

[@lylewarren4391]

ive had a gamesir x2, a gamesir kaleid, and now a gamesir galileo. Buyer's regret is something I never get when it comes to gamesir, their controllers are cheap and more than worth it.

[@moe4b]

The g8+ has rumble?

[@moe4b]

Also, no offense, but why would one need a gyro in a phone controller? Every phone already had a gyro built-in

[@mattdavis9601]

GameSir does what 8BitDon't.

[@jedstuhr]

@mattdavis9601 haha nice 90s throwback!!

[@matts1978]

The g8+ has got me playing the switch like crazy!!! Such a game changer

[@GameTechTalk]

Ahaahahha! The perfect comment for sure!

[@MlNECRAFT69]

As in not function at all lmao I tried the gamesir g8+ and it doesn’t connect to any device whatsoever and is ignorant to all button presses and combinations. Returning this paperweight for the half cost 8bitdo ultimate

[@menojohnson]

I am happy 8BITDO finally came out with an official telescopic controller, however I think that the G8 Plus edges this controller out.

[@GameTechTalk]

It does. As you said, I'm happy too! One can never have too many 8BitDos! 😂

[@theob1712]

@@menojohnson yeah the ability to use the G8 on everything from a full sized Ipad to a Nintendo Switch is huge for the G8

[@menojohnson]

@ yeah! The 8BItdo does not hold a candle to the G8 plus versatility. The G8 being an all on one controller makes it a beast.

[@theob1712]

@@menojohnson Do you have one? My only complaint is that the analog sticks feel "floaty" like there's no resistance. Its my first hall effect controller so idk if that's it or not.

[@menojohnson]

@@theob1712 yeah I have a g8 plus. That floaty feel is the Hall effect sticks not having much resistance like traditional joysticks. If you download the GameSir app you can adjust the “feel” of the sticks responsiveness to your liking.

[@DonaldWyman]

I love 8bitdo, and was kinda excited to see this come out... But am disappointed they didn't use the d-pad they are famous for, also it would have been nice if there were more input methods like you mentioned.

[@GameTechTalk]

Agreed, it's a bit of a mixed bag with this one to be honest. With that said, I like the product nonetheless but I get it that it's not a "no brainer" for anyone like I assume many people would've taken for granted, be it that 8BitDo has an excellent track record.

[@jhsounds]

As far as iPhone compatibility goes, have you tried the old trick of iOS Settings -> Accessibility -> Switch Control -> Switches -> Bluetooth?

[@GameTechTalk]

Ahahaha, someone knows a cheat code! ;) It got me through so much Apple Arcade in the early days of the service! I did try it, it didn't work sadly. The problem is not so much the iPhone accepting the connection, but rather having drivers/API to support Android HID, which the controller only operate as. Unfortunately, it didn't work. :(

[@jedstuhr]

considering how 90% of 8BitDo's controllers are compatible with the Switch, I feel it was a missed opportunity to not include that feature

[@GameTechTalk]

100%, if anything, that's the biggest missed opportunity. I can forgive the lack of gyro or rumble, though I would've appreciated both but the Switch support would've made this a pretty sweet added purpose!

[@muhdzaidi3051]

Thanks for the teardown! Like I said, using ribbon cable is a big no from me...I'm not taking the risk of potentially having a half-dead controller within a few weeks/months. Hopefully for those who are interested, they will add more modes via firmware update like Gamesir did with the X2s bluetooth (it has switch support now). Having touchscreen mapping would help too

[@GameTechTalk]

No freaking way!!! That is AMAZING, I had no knowledge of that being a thing for the X2s BT! I'm looking forward to seeing the software, I think it'll elevate the product overall as 8BitDo does have amazing software overall!

[@Gundemonium]

@@GameTechTalk also they have added bluetooth support for Ultimate 2.4 ghz (its the first version of the controller, that had no bluetooth and hall sticks out of the box), and it became usable on the iphone, so i find lack of ios support very surprising for a mobile controller lol

[@Elazam]

I've been waiting for them to make a mobile controller, but yeah, hope they make a usb-c version some day

[@GameTechTalk]

I'll be happy to indulge in that one when the time comes! Let's both hope that it is sooner rather than later!

[@justjoshp8581]

when i first saw this product i did want it but after seeing the review i think my opinion has definitely changed. i feel like a 8bitdo controller is cool but i also feel a little late to the market. and if they make more revisions to it my opinion could change as they add more features but i do think it is kind of pricey for what they offer considering you have stuff like the gamersir g8 thats only a little bit more and can fit more devices

[@GameTechTalk]

Fair, I hope they don't take too long for a v2 but I can understand some people wanting to sit it out until there is at least more feature parity with some of the newer options.

[@michaelbenny659]

They have built a level of trust for a long time

[@GameTechTalk]

That they have, that's why I am happy to buy another one even, 8BitDo is a brand I trust and truthfully, the sheer amount of "stress test" from me trying to pry it open speaks to the level of quality. I was really impressed.

[@toeonthetrigger7531]

Does it do wireless charging for device in use?

[@GameTechTalk]

It does not, so you would need to use a wired cable to charge your phone and a 90 degree USB-C adapter to run the wire off the side. Cheers!

[@m.a.daniel910]

Im surprised you haven't review any leadjoy controllers, or did you already did? I wonder whats your thought about them

[@GameTechTalk]

I had one in my basket for a while but I realized that the controller had been out for a while, I felt as though my time to talk about it might have passed. I might revisit if ever I can find myself in a place where I no longer have a month-long production timeline set in!

[@makoharrop7583]

Thanks for the review! Keep up the hot new product videos!

[@GameTechTalk]

Thank you very much!

[@skreeog]

8bitdo is a company i really respect. I have a couple of hteir controllers and they have crazy price/performance ratio. Always nice videos from you!

[@GameTechTalk]

Ahh thanks a lot @skreeog ! And same, always appreciated 8BitDo from the very first controller I bought from them which was the SN30.

[@killpax36]

8bitdo should look into tablet controller that support up to 13inch max since only ones that support is iPega, & Gamesir modded version…

[@GameTechTalk]

I'd love to see that from them!

[@antonioortega8352]

Are there ANY telescopic controllers that you can put your phone into vertically? So I can use for DS emulation/split apps and horizontal for everything else

[@GameTechTalk]

Yes and no. The G8Plus, the BSPs is what you're looking for. However, a phone is too narrow in portrait so you need to have packing foam or something so that the contraption tightens on the phone. With that, you'll get the result you're looking for.

[@antonioortega8352]

@GameTechTalk Appreciate the reply! Tried it, not my thing. Have you heard of the FLYDIGI Wee2T? It's a telescopic Bluetooth controller that came out a few years back that offered portrait and landscape use. I just dig the smaller footprint and functionality. If its been done before it can be done again! Check out their telescopic design, it allows for a wide range of devices while being compact in its non stretched state. More moving parts but yeah more companies should look into this design! Thanks for being so comprehensive in your reviews.

[@omnichad8982]

I was about to Purchase the Gamesir Galileo 8 plus but then i saw this. Which would you recommend for Remote Play from PC or PS5???

[@GameTechTalk]

The Galileo G8 Plus. The 8BitDo is a great controller, but a bit limiting in its capabilities.

[@flyaway6671]

This looks like it was designed to a tee to fit your standard generic 6 inch screen android phone, it looks so flush. That is kind of a selling point in itself.

[@GameTechTalk]

Yup, it's got such a perfect fit. Gorgeous stuff really!

[@locomax2082]

In a different video I commented that a "nice" D-Pad for you (Easysmx M05) probably was good for old fighting games, slow paced ones. But not suitable for fast modern fighting games like Dragon Ball Fighterz, KoF XV, SF6 or even Marvel vs Cap 3, where you need to pull combos super fast, and the movements have changed in the past 30 years since Street Fighter 2. I've tested the M05, X2pro, X2s, Galileo G8 and I am still looking for a suitable fighting D-pad in a small telescopic controller. I do get why you gave a good ranking to the M05, but I am trying to tell you that testing these D-pads with a 30 year old game is not a proof of how they will perform with modern games. I hope you can test them with more recent and faster games. All of these controllers do actually work really well for anything else but fighting games. Even a retro handheld like RG35xxH has a way better D-Pad for that purpose (faster fighting games) than all of the ones I have tested so far. Is this 8bitdo telescopic controller D-pad similar to the SN30 pro or the SN30 Pro 2...? (still have the first one, I sold the second one). I do wanna try the SMX M10 Dpad... a huge issue for us that we live in places where all of these controllers are imports... not cheap, not easy and hard to find stores where to get them. I hope you reconsider your testing methodology choosing modern games like Celeste, SF6, KoF XV, Cuphead, Shadow of the NInja Reborn or any modern 2D game that require faster and more precise inputs. Thanks and keep up the good work man... so nice that you were the first one reviewing this, I was waiting for this video.

[@GameTechTalk]

You make a compelling argument. I need to find a solution that I can bring everywhere as sometimes I test on Apple, sometimes on Android, sometimes on a handheld PC. Any title that you have off the top of your head that I can consistently test everywhere? Modern emulators are out of the question. Thanks!

[@locomax2082]

@@GameTechTalk Thanks for the reply =) Ok, so looking trough the catalog among the different platforms (Steam, Android, iOS) there are some games I would suggest to test D-Pads. Disclaimer: I do not think these are the "best" games per se (the best fighting game, or GOTY platform, just saying in case somebody thinks I believe KoF is the best fighting game of all time): - King of Fighters 98 (iOS, Android, Steam, Switch) (good for testing hadoken like inputs, Iori's moves need to do this up to 4 times in a combo, so with a faulty D-Pad you can't chain the combo due to bad diagonals) - Marvel vs Capcom 2 or Dragon Ball Fighterz (steam, switch) ... (it gets as crazy as it is) - Celeste (Steam, Switch) (on the top of my head is Celeste due to the fact that you need a good diagonal D-Pad for those advance and B side) - Dandara (iOS, Android, Switch, Steam) (the mechanics of this game are like pointing a pinball in a Metroidvania game, so you need a good D.pad) - Hades (iOS through netflix app, steam, Switch) (and I quote from the app's comments: "It's an absolute nightmare without precision controls.") - Dead Cells (iOS, Android, Steam, Switch) (fast 2D action) - Shovel Knight (steam, Switch) (within the game, Specter Knight game is so good for testing diagonals just like Celeste) - Sonic Mania (iOS, android, steam, switch) (you don't require of those diagonals, but good if you want to test input latency across multiple systems, same with fighting games) Anyhow... the hardest part was checking those games in the different stores and stuff hehe. Maybe there are more games out there for sure... the hardest part is the multiplatform aspect of things. I hope I contributed with something. Thanks =)

[@GameTechTalk]

@@locomax2082 Dude, I was looking forward to your response but I was not expecting this much of an effort, wow! Thank you very much, I'll peruse the options and see how I can make sense of it all to maximize the viewer experience, while not putting too much more on my plate. Thanks I greatly appreciate!

[@Rakutsi]

How big phones will it work with? I have a samsung galaxy s24

[@GameTechTalk]

It'll work fine with the S24 and S24 Ultra. I can't think of a phone that it won't support but it won't be enough for small form-factor tablets.

[@jimjon2855]

When a usbc controller with both charging pass-through and an sd card slot?

[@GameTechTalk]

I don't know that we'll see that if just because it would greatly affected the latency of the controller. You'd be better off finding a hub to put in between the controller and the phone but you may suffer the same latency issue whenever there is heavy reading/writing to the SD.

[@Towneo_1]

no way 8bitdo made controller for phone aswell, i bet it gonna be pricey but worth it

[@Towneo_1]

it is worth it, for 50 bucks, the only minus is that controller is bluetooth, if it has good charge, no problem, but if battery is small, it gonna be a problem, triggers and shoulder buttons are great, buttons and sticks are very good on paper, the dpad is good, but would be cool if it had the circle dpad as an option, better compatability with pc and it is going to one of the best controller, gamesir g8+ is still the best, it is the same thing, but just better, cuz of this it is more expensive than 8bitdo, kinda fair

[@sotosmatthew3046]

@@Towneo_1 its says 350 mah ,which is really low, Galileo g8 plus has 1000mah and last about 16 hours,so i would assume that this lasts around 5

[@GameTechTalk]

Their listing claims up to 15 hours on the battery that they have, I haven't put it through this much stress but for what I have, the claim seem pretty reliable. With that said, they have a lot less features than some of these other controllers, no RGB, no gyro, no rumble, not as high polling, no "twice bluetooth" signals, etc

[@Towneo_1]

@@GameTechTalk no RGB, no gyro, no rumble is to cut costs for sure, if it had this things it would be another not worth the attention 70 bucks controller, bc there is plenty of them, but they made a controller for guys that are only going into that world and dont want something expensive and from a company they havent heard from, 8bitdo is well known for sn30, sn30 pro and their ultimate controller, seems like a trustful company to me, eh? while they could make the best controller out there, i respect them going for lower class, giving guys an option of buying, giving basic but good stuff, they could have made it bigger tho, only 170 cm, it is not going to fit some phones, let alone small tablets.....

[@TheInfiniteNine]

There needs to be a switch version that is either usb c port compatabile or bluetooth compatible with gyro, and rumble. Or hell, dedicated joycon even!

[@GameTechTalk]

I'd love to see both for sure!

[@MrGonz801]

I dont necessarily like their approach. I feel like 8bitdo is kinda becoming lazy because gamesir has also made a name for themselves particularly in the mobile gaming controller market and they give you the option to go Xinput mode, PS Spoof and Native Switch support on their latest Bluetooth telescopic controller. I would probably get an 8bitdo one if they added Xinput and made it in the style of the pro line instead of the ultimate line BUT the truth of the matter is I already forked over an arm and a leg for the backbone one gen 2 about a year ago and aside from the asymmetric sticks im pretty happy with it

[@GameTechTalk]

Having just one would have greatly improved compatibility, especially with iOS now supporting more controllers. If they had just given us one spoofed mode, you'd have support on Android and iOS and possibly more. I can appreciate what they brought out but I totally understand your stance, it feels like such a missed opportunity that it's difficult to not feel like wanting them to have done just a smidge more as that would've made this controller that much more appealing.

[@Cpdontask]

I wonder if phone case wont get in the way when using it

[@GameTechTalk]

Depends on how thick the case would be but overall, it plays nicely with them

[@gregorybolivar5712]

Another Goodies Big Daddy Controller... 🧐😎🤔... Let's Go...

[@GameTechTalk]

This might just have to go on my tombstone when it's my time! 😂 "Big Daddy Controller"

[@gregorybolivar5712]

@GameTechTalk Indeed... 😎🙃

[@z3razerviper]

Does it work with the pixel 8 pro with case on it?

[@GameTechTalk]

Yeah, you'll have about half a centimeter of clearance still.

[@DorianKnight-qm9rx]

I use my Pro 2 controller on iOS, and love it; I don’t get why they released this controller without iOS support, as they obviously have it on other controllers 🤔

[@GameTechTalk]

I keep asking myself the same question. That's why I think their success is what is at cause. Having MFi certified products in their range, they might have contractually locked themselves into a deal that prevents them from "circumventing" Apple's "security" measures. A contract that include: "You do this, we sue you." kind of ordeal. It's very common in the western world's corporate approach.

[@gan.mobile]

Works on Windows by bluetooth? Best regards.

[@GameTechTalk]

It does but because it is not modern protocols, you should expect that not every game will work, unless you use a translation layer such as Steam Input or many software that can translate as well such as ViGem.

[@gan.mobile]

@GameTechTalk sorry, cant undertand about "is not modern protocols" because is a brand new controller by 8 bit do and others by 8 bit do alreadyn likes Xbox recognize on Windows. Or works by 8 bit do wireless adapter or cable? Just wanna use on Android and Windows.

[@DotaSpy-l8z]

Are there other version for nintendo switch ?

[@GameTechTalk]

Of these types of controllers? Yes. But from 8BitDo specifically that can stretch like this, no. In fact, it's their first one ever!

[@WilsonFung-n9s]

Does it work without an app?

[@GameTechTalk]

Oh it absolutely does yeah!

[@תומריצחק-כ6ח]

Dose it work with ps remont play

[@GameTechTalk]

It does not, you'd have to get PX Play to play your PS5 remotely, which is a great investment tbh.

[@WheeledHamster]

Jesus that D-pad looks like it could cut my thumb if I tried doing a Dragon Punch. How protruding and sharp do they want it to be?

[@GameTechTalk]

😂😂 That's what I get for eating while reading comments, you made me choke from sudden laughing! There's a few reasons why it's not my favorite d-pad but they do soften the corners a bit, that said, I do still find them too sharp for my taste. Still, there is definitely worst (looking at your X2 controllers).

[@davidaamaya1]

Im bummed out this controller doesn't have a headphone jack. I've seen other controllers do

[@GameTechTalk]

I can't think of a bluetooth one that does mind you but wired controllers with a 3.5mm hack? Yes there are plenty!

[@ThomasTheTankEngine22]

Seems like a good controller. G8/G8+ seems to still be king

[@GameTechTalk]

Yes and yes! I've tempered my expectations with this one, I ended up pre-ordering the white one too but indeed, that one is not here to dethrone the leading product but rather, set its foundations. I'm here for it!

[@DeletedWZM]

Bro u havent answer me last time 😭😭😭 I was asking if vader 4 pro gyro works like big big won gyro in warzone mobile

[@GameTechTalk]

Oh my bad, sometimes I respond and forget to hit reply, I have a 100 tabs opened! 😅 It's not as good, that's first. Second, the bluetooth settings don't seem to have that feature on Flydigi, so you need to be wired. I'll be honest, I didn't spend 30mins looking, I've got a lot on my plate but one thing for sure. The gyro feature on Flydigi is simply not on-par with the equivalent with BIGBIG WON.

[@DeletedWZM]

@GameTechTalk yes i got the controller now and i totally agree it works in warzone mobile but kinda finicky when talking to horizontal gyro specifically thank you brother!

[@leorodriguez2135]

This work in iPhone ?

[@GameTechTalk]

Sadly, it does not.

[@stevethetitan414]

does it work with cod mobile?

[@GameTechTalk]

Not it does not and please don't listen to the comments on ShortCircuit's video saying that Linus was lost and couldn't figure it out. CODM won't work on this controller because it's in Android HID mode, which CODM notoriously does not support, as well as many other controller protocol. I wish Linus would've explained why it doesn't work but that said, it is correct, it will not.

[@emperorpenguin1456]

no support for ios?! especially in this era where emulators has been accessible than ever before.

[@GameTechTalk]

This controller would've been amazing for some vertical DS on iPhone/iPad Mini. Oh well, let's hope for next time!

[@jasonmxx]

like the other comments, i also think the g8 plus outclasses this controller in every way. (maybe except for the dpad, not a fan of the dpad on the g8 plus)

[@jasonmxx]

my fave dpad will always be the playstation's.

[@GameTechTalk]

I can effectively say that the d-pad on the 8BitDo is better than the G8s, though not by much to be honest.

[@toddpace4588]

It's biggest issue is Bluetooth only.

[@GameTechTalk]

You could, if very motivated, put a USB-C 90 degree connector into your phone and run a wire from the controller to the connector. It works fine but it's a bit funky looking.

[@cesrrr01]

i wished 8bitdo would have made a 'lite' gamepad optimised for retro and 2d games with their premium d-pad because most mobile controller have shit d-pads. for me that’s a miss.

[@GameTechTalk]

That would've been a very clever way to stand out in the telescopic space. Come to think of it, I think I would've liked that too!

[@ondrav3705]

why is so many people negative about it? its half the price of G8

[@GameTechTalk]

The market moved in a way that this is a controller that feels a little lacking in feature in comparison to what is available but I've spent more time with it and it does have some redeemable qualities, if not a perfect option, nor the current "best".

[@joshs2235]

I love 8bitdo, but this really feels like a minimal effort product. No ios/switch support, no rumble. They didn't even use the same famous dpad that people know and love from their other products. I hope people call them out and it lights a fire under them, because I don't want them to do the way of every other greedy, lazy manufacturer.

[@GameTechTalk]

I'm starting to get worryingly concerned with the fact that their app still isn't out. It's already more than 2 weeks since they released it. It's a bit underwhelming and something that could be a way to shift the balance somewhat to their advantage but it's a no-show for now... Hopefully it means they are working on making that app the best it can be.

[@joshs2235]

Let's hope so, I want to see them to keep releasing quality products and succeed!

[@_Charrizard_]

So get the G8 Plus, got it lol

[@tyleraronne473]

Thank you

[@citruesilver]

meh...expected better from 8bitdo Galileo G8 still reigns supreme in that price range

[@GameTechTalk]

GameSir is really marking its territory, brilliantly I might add!

[@MsOniHime]

My wallet . Where are you, here buddy.... Come to papa,😊

[@GameTechTalk]

I thought I was the only one that called my controllers my "childrens"! 😂

[@spxrkz7190]

Nice!

[@GameTechTalk]

Very!

[@SANTANA821]

Lol I bought it but in don't know when I gonna get it

[@GameTechTalk]

They ship on November 29th I believe.

[@SANTANA821]

@GameTechTalk thanks for the info

[@JamesR624]

So.... only works with Android and that's pretty much it. Well, that's completely pointless and makes this thing DOA when there's competition out there. Pretty sad. I expected better from 8BitDo honestly.

[@GameTechTalk]

If I made an educated guess, they could be talking with Apple to have a dedicated MFi version? Honestly, considering that very few controllers are MFi certified, and that I am pretty sure 8BitDo did have MFi certified products in their collection (I could be wrong), that controller would stand out way more on that side of the mobile market than it does on Android. Let's hope it happens down the road!

[@thebigt42]

Steam desk is Arch Linux

[@GameTechTalk]

It is but the controller protocol is also Neptune, which is very important not to forget. Also, Valve introduces its own drivers which can increase/decrease support for certain controllers.

[@michaelsaucedo3458]

Gamesir G8 Plus > Telescopic's 8BitDo

[@GameTechTalk]

Can't argue that one.

[@mythydamashii9978]

Not bad tbh for 50 USD

[@GameTechTalk]

The price, the quality, the ergonomics are overall the positives. That said, there are some quirks to counter that balance too. I like it, still I understand that some people experience some disappointment with it.

[@Urangatanga]

no ios support is crazy lazy on their part.

[@GameTechTalk]

I think it’s got to do with them acquiring a lot more visibility, kind of being a victim of their own success. I think they’ve entered a territory of opening themselves to legal repercussions if they make unlicensed Apple hardware, because as far as I remember, they actually do have MFi licensed products. Building a product that supports Apple without paying the MFi license sounds like asking for trouble.

[@mrbutchee1]

Boooo 8bitdo

[@pepito69]

😱

[@mrbutchee1]

@pepito69 They can do better

[@GameTechTalk]

If they started with the product as a stepping stone, I have no problems with. I just hope that's not a one-off, that would be sad.

[@WheeledHamster]

8bitdoodoo butter.

[@dans1370]

most disappointing 8bitdo product

[@GameTechTalk]

Unfortunately, but I'm hoping the app (once available) can lift it up a bit.

[@GameBrainerz]

GamesirG8 #Keymappless