California Ebike Law 2025 - NO MORE THROTTLE!

[@walkermott1750]

California wants to replace gas powers vehicles but is doing everything in their power to make it as hard as possible to switch to a electric alternative

[@18andlikeit]

What they really want is for you to have no vehicle at all. To totally take away your independent freedom of travel and to only take public transportation.

[@UltraBrian]

That’s not what they’re doing. That’s not how the law works.

[@UltraBrian]

@@billfsmusicthey’re not making people register for a electric bike.

[@UltraBrian]

@@billfsmusicthe California law has always been the same as before, so no need to worry.

[@clean-energies]

nazi zombiez not democracy

[@notsoanonymous2458]

I live in L.A. I tell people "If it's a bad idea, California will do it." I just got back from riding my escooter around where the fires are to check things out. No way I would have wanted to be in a car. High taxes, high crime, rampant homelessness and fires every year that wreck people's lives but yes, let's crack down on ebikes. CA is lost.

[@Mark-qv4bn]

They've been lost for years.

[@UltraBrian]

CA is not cracking down on e-bikes. Stop panicking.

[@Acemaniac1000]

Germany is a lot worse, 250 Watts nominal,Max Watts 750-100 or more is ok, Max speed pedaling with Motor 25 kmh = 15.53 mph if you Pedal faster without the Motor is ok, throttle speed max 6 kmh = 3.72 mph... 🤬

[@GoogleCloudError]

Must be hard living with that much FUD and ignorance. Like if you actually care about statistics, facts..

[@AngelPadillaMetalheadAngel01]

Thank you for your video. Just ride responsible and the cops won't bother you. Keep on riding

[@theviolingeek]

The states want insurance, registration, license plate fees and testing just like a car. Then they'll let you have a throttle.

[@eonreeves4324]

do you see how the Nazi liberals do it?? they force us into submission and grape us with taxes

[@UltraBrian]

That’s not happening.

[@williambray4134]

@UltraBrian Yet it already is happening.

[@Jazzmarcel]

Jackpot!.......boils down to Greed!

[@ChrisB...]

I've wanted insurance forever, but it's not even being offered as a possibility. I asked my insurance company.

[@EBikeBuilder_]

The laws should be about encouraging safe riding behavior, NOT limiting the specs of components, or making arbitrary distinction between pedaling and throttling. The good news is, the laws are SO DUMB, that NO ONE CARES. They are unenforceable. There are bigger problems. Unfortunately it just makes pre-made ebikes have to use janky limitations on the throttle. And it also sets up a situation where the police have a reason to pull over any ebike for any reason at any time, because the laws are so stupid and basically all ebikes are considered illegal

[@Grace_580]

If e-bikes are restricted to a maximum speed of 28 mph, then it’s only fair that cars have a limit of 65 mph, especially since they can reach speeds of 140-160 mph. As long as we adhere to the speed limits, I don’t see why this should be a problem regardless of wattage

[@stevej6824]

I agree 100%

[@Kattbirb]

Nah, I'd say limit them to 55 MPH and 20 Horsepower. If you want apples to apples, they have to be restricted to just barely slower than reasonable speeds and with too little power.

[@18andlikeit]

@@Grace_580 28mph has always been the maximum legal speed limit for ebikes in CA.

[@mikealsomikealsomike7502]

@@18andlikeit the new law makes it so that the bike can't even reach 28mph you missed the point

[@18andlikeit]

@@mikealsomikealsomike7502 that's not how I read the new law. You just can't go faster than 20mph in throttle only. You can still use pedal assist to pedal to 28mph. "The first provision covered in the new law copied above applies to e-bikes designed by the manufacturer to be user-modifiable to go faster than 20 mph (32 km/h) on motor power alone (i.e. by use of a hand throttle that requires no pedaling input), or to provide more than 750 watts of power. To be clear: This does not make e-bikes that travel over 20 mph illegal (they can still travel up to 28 mph on pedal assist) but rather targets those that can achieve such speeds on throttle alone."

[@1wyldndn]

Get a petition started. You'll need hundreds of thousands of signatures. Seems to me that those making laws are ignorant to the job they must do. Have fellow ebike riders write their congressman.

[@thefentanyl]

honestly this might work but we all have to sign

[@bryan1174]

You only need 10,000 signatures the thing we need is reasonable alternatives to the current regulations

[@gyioraww]

Especially in Ca!

[@anthonysuarez7416]

Good video! It's not just ebikes that Cali has out of control regulation. It took me almost 4 months to get approved and to install a solar system on my building in San Francisco. On the other hand, in Vegas, it took me one week to get approved and have a similar system installed on my house. I can halfway see if I was in the sticks somewhere that has forest/wilderness, but in the Mission District there are ZERO forests. California makes a bunch of laws based on like 10 rich people who donate to campaigns.

[@ABoringTool]

California is owned by big tech. Once Tesla or some other CA tech company makes an e bike for rich people, you can be sure the laws will relax quick

[@ModProjects4306]

You’ve still got it good. I review e-bikes in the U.K. if you didn’t know, we can use a throttle up to 4mph, max speed 15.5mph … and to top it all off 250w motors. Keep up the good work J, fight the power.

[@Kattbirb]

With respect, I don't believe we should be thankful for one poke in the eye just because it wasn't two. Though I agree, we have to resist all of these bad laws, in each of our respective countries and states.

[@aidgan789]

Doesn't stop delivroo drivers

[@benvsreality]

I've pushed my non-electric skateboard over 15.5mph on a mild downhill. What a stupid limit.

[@orderofmagnitude-TPATP]

Uk basically does not want us to have freedom of movement. Its turning into a dictatorship fast. Uk has always been ridiculous when it comes to any transport. They are trying to price us out of driving with higher and higher taxes

[@EcDanny-88]

Same shit they do with everything else in this state, make the rules as stupid as possible

[@JohnBabcock-qy1cs]

Feeling sorry for some of my favorite reviewers.. Even a bunch of shops that sell these great bikes are going to be going through crap! You might need to blurr out your speeds during rides you video. To avoid incriminating yourself. Big motorcycle channels blurr out speeds in their videos.

[@UltraBrian]

They’re still legal.

[@mikealsomikealsomike7502]

@@JohnBabcock-qy1cs already do

[@GoogleCloudError]

Meanwhile I've hit 74mph on my InMotion RS electric scooter. I live on the same street as the police station in OC. Zero issues. The truth is that overwhelmingly cops do not care as long as you're safe.

[@theviolingeek]

1:34 California ebike riders messed it up for everybody. Supped up bikes and riding recklessly in the street will cause a country wide crackdown on average riders in a virtually low-key sport. Everybody knows that once Cali is affected, it's just a matter of time for the rest. 😮 PS. THIS IS GOING TO KILL THE EBIKE MANUFACTURERS BUSINESS ALL OVER!!!

[@edwardferrari7342]

Which is why we need more police, rather than defunding it. Ebikes aren't the problem, lack of police checking and ticketing is.

[@Rebel-Unit]

Agree ​@edwardferrari7342

[@Rebel-Unit]

They stepped into unchartered waters and shot themselves in the foot, but that doesn't mean it's over it just means a company like Super73 should have known better when they have an opportunity with marketing for their ebike failure and use there passion for speed for just that! Speed, with a true call to speed, a full fledged go at the EMotorcycle market and produce in limited quantities perhaps, go all out with the C1X ⚡️🙂❤️

[@WaffleStaffel]

I've seen plenty of group rides which are as bad as street takeovers- intentionally obstructing traffic, confrontations, doing stunts, playing chicken with cars, damaging cars, but it almost always seems to be one particular demographic exhibiting the worst behavior. Common courtesy is racist.

[@Kattbirb]

It wasn't electric bicycles that were the issue, but electric motorcycles trying to piggyback them.

[@dharrelkabiling3176]

We need to get rid of governor dumbsome

[@pizzadahut6073]

You guys should protest this. This is absolutely insane

[@scootermcgee8064]

Why should e-bike users get to use their Onyx or Super 73 to go as fast as a scooter or moped but not have to get a motorcycle endorsement or registration?

[@WaffleStaffel]

@@scootermcgee8064 Because that's a non-sequitor, one thing has absolutely nothing to do with the other. What you should be asking is why is a moped limited to 30mph.

[@unwillingful]

I agree with you, California is extremely liberal and that is why you find so many laws about things from guns to electric bicycles. The problem with gun laws is that it restricts legal gun owners while illegal gun owners are far more dangerous. The same applies to e-bikes.... making certain things illegal doesn't mean people won't still do it.

[@gphilipc2031]

Egalitarianism requires that you impede the high performers.

[@dccoletrain]

I think I’d leave the state. Terrible leadership as seen in LA now.

[@UltraBrian]

Nah, it’s still good.

[@gskebk]

@@UltraBrianyo GTFO plzz you’re in everybody’s comment section shilling for a state who doesn’t care about it’s citizens, liberal s••t hole garbage 🗑️

[@HD-kc8sm]

Clearly you've never lived anywhere else. "terrible leadership" Get a real opinion and lose that cheapas$ borrowed one

[@alanbomb]

I'm gonna keep riding till the wheels fall off. F that.

[@Timbodacious]

So i imagine people suing california over the no throttle up to 28 mph because pedaling to reach 28 is much more unsafe than just pushing your thumb down especially since most pedal assist bikes up to 28 are ghost pedaling anyways and the pas sensor is acting like a throttle. makes zero sense haha. Hope your frame came with vin numbers for moped registration sucks. The laws should have been solely based off of top speed not wattage output and even then it should have been 1500 watts. Some people just need torque and not speed. This is mostly going to be a cash grab for the state. they want to make money off of people and this is how its done. Gas mopeds don't even have this many restrictions lol. looks like 750 watt mid drives will become more popular to keep the hill climbing torque. Looks like the loophole will be dual 750 motors since there is no wording about it lol. pretty sure the super lawsuit will die because it only unlocks the bike to become a class 3 and it was sold before the law took effect. the kid can just unplug the throttle now and use pedal assist and its a class 3 bike (but the wattage goes over the limit).

[@nagashizzar3978]

Cali burned down because they passed that dumbass law!

[@UltraBrian]

The law has no effect on us. Plus the law is still the same as before, so no need to freak out!

[@nagashizzar3978]

@UltraBrian I live in Chicago and no one follows any laws here. It's nice.

[@mikealsomikealsomike7502]

@@UltraBrian wrong but lying is fun.

[@adaboy4z]

Ive said it many times, why anyone wants to live in Comifornia is beyond me. Yeah it has pretty areas to live in but dang restrictions galore..

[@RonnieD769]

My 2¢ car lobbyists, manual peddle cyclists, anti-ebike karens & darrens that want to micromanage ppls lives are causing all the hoopla about the throttle. 🙄😤

[@MiguelDiaz-wq7uh]

I am starting to hate United States. We are letting ourselves get taxed for everything. The bad thing is they are not using it to make the roads safer or cleaner. Imagine having to buy a car and in the same time paying a subscription to drive the car, well that's happening called registration. Not only that we pay taxes when we buy it after fully purchase it we have to pay every year just to drive which is just absurd. Now they want to try to regulate this.

[@jaybones614]

EBikes flying down bike and walking paths around 30-40mph don't help the community. I see it happen all the time. Cali will just use that to over regulate

[@drunkredninja]

When lawmakers create legislation about things they know nothing about. This is as arsebackwards as the gun laws. At this point, just get a motorcycle.

[@FabricatorFactory]

But you're still allowed to cary an AR on you back if you want, right?

[@Mrhyperelectric]

What’s up? What’s up how you doing? I live in New York and was watching the last video on the changes law changes in California. What’s crazy is I just read? I don’t know if it’s all California or parts that the state is giving $2000 vouchers to anyone that wants to purchase an Ebike to get more cars off the road. And now they wanna change this law which is crazy there’s no way they’re gonna control it unless they start pulling person over and checking them and checking their bikes in New York. They’re trying to say they might end up making us register and license them. Do you know how many people I know I happen to be friends with Mr. E and from NYC and I know V from power lithium I live like 45 minutes away. I had just met them. I was down at his shop power lithium and I’m gonna start going on rides with them, but some of those guys on the New York City rides have like 5000 W hub motors you know, sir runs with pedal kiss but with crazy controllers and huge batteries from power lithium of course but I think it’s ridiculous. I agree and I don’t think they can control it like they think they’re gonna be able to. I don’t see what they mean by no throttle. A lot of these bikes have a throttle. I have a rev one. It has a throttle. I actually messaged you about that asking if you know how to get rid of that lag when you hit the throttle on the rev one it’s so annoying of course you got off-road and boost, but it has a throttle and that’s not the type you wanna pedal just like the lyric a lot of The Bike coming out you don’t really meant for peddling take care. I hope they don’t ruin it for everybody.

[@CastorTroy30]

It’s simple really. No more throttle for stunt riders….Try to pop a wheelie on group rides while riding on public roads, with nothing but pedal assist. 😂

[@freddiewinters7022]

I'm out here in Arizona and for class 3 ebikes our rules say we're exempt from taxes

[@theviolingeek]

What are they going to do with public ebikes?!

[@paulabarton9493]

For myself not even able to use a bike. When I saw this I even don’t think it makes sense. The new law does not make sense to even Ypres an e-bike. You even mentioned it. California is going down hill more and more. I’m glad you covered this topic and I totally agree with H you 100%

[@charlesgray7642]

I just want to say one more thing EVERYONE needs to read, understand and know the U.S. Constitution. We have an over reaching government both Federal and State. We the people are the highest power in this country and we need to start acting like it.

[@RaijinRacer011]

My idea to California's leaders is to have a compromise allowing for increased power limits while capping the max speed instead of forcing a power limit on most eBikes. Manufacturers will have to make eBikes that cannot be reprogrammed to conform to these regulations, however "EcoMode buttons" can be added on eBikes with bigger motors as that can improve efficiency at the cost of power and speed. These can be with or without pedals and ran at their peak power output but are still speed limited to 15mph for Class 1 (any age), 20mph for Class 2 (ages 13+) and 30mph for Class 3 (age 16+). This will allow anyone to buy eBikes that climb up the steepest of hills (like in San Francisco) while enforcing their speed caps so they can ride safely. These restricted eBikes don't need any license in order to be ridden. As for those wanting unrestricted or re-programmable eBikes that can be made to hit speeds over 30mph, these could be classified as a new class called Class 4. This class is only for adults and will need any form of vehicle class license (car or motorcycle) in order to have access to them. These eBikes must follow the laws, ride in vehicle-specified lanes, and obey the speed limit especially if you're going over 30mph, but for safety reasons they cannot be taken onto major highways. You can go as fast as you want only if you are off-road and/or on a specified unrestricted eBike-only lane (if they implement such a feature in the future).

[@profilmwork]

🚨 blame idiots like the Surronster. He is a good and has the maturity of a 9 year old. I told you guys he would ruin it for you guys and that law enforcement watches his videos. When I said that comment sections came for me smh. The general population is like lemmings when it comes to logic

[@IROC-ROB]

This whole thing is not right, if we purchased these bikes when they were legal, it doesn’t make sense for them to suddenly declare our previous purchases illegal. These bikes are expensive, and most of them come with throttles, whether it’s a thumb throttle or a twist throttle. It’s unreasonable to tell someone who spent thousands of dollars on a bike just a few months ago or who have owned them for years that it’s now illegal to own. I also suspect that larger companies like Super73, Electra, Giant, along with many others which produce throttle equipped bikes, will take legal action if the bike sold prior to 2025 is considered illegal. A recall of all bikes sold before 2025 would be impractical and infeasible.

[@lilvegasbasc-se7en-0-duece67]

Not gonna be any recalls, bike makers knew these types of laws were coming, that why they sold them under the "off-road use only ⚠️" label. It should be the same as a motorcycle or moped. It should be able to go as fast as you want it too, and it should be your decision on whether or not you want to break the law. They can't let a moped and motorcycle have throttles and then single out E-bikes and e-motos and say, "Nope, no throttle for you, pedal btch"

[@jaylord55]

my bike is 5000w but i keep it to my local e bike speed limit iv had few cops stop me where i live they only give tickets out when im speeding/ being a nuance on the street, So i completely agree with you on that point

[@lionelhowell4972]

I once rode my Fuji Raleigh road racer to 40 mph but consistently rode 28-35 mph for long distances ( I still have it). Now I have all the newer toys, fast scooters a Super fast stealth Bomber (91 mph). There are no cops trying to Pi** on folks or other stupid laws here in MN. All old and new infrastructure is built around green transportation which is encouraged.

[@eclipsewolf9044]

Electric scooters are illegal in Pennsylvania. But Electric bicycles with 1000watt motors are legal LOL makes no sense.

[@mikealsomikealsomike7502]

This is going to crush bike shops more than anything making so that the bikes people want are only available online. California basically only banned bike shops from selling bikes and bike shops are already struggling. I think there is something bigger going on.

[@18andlikeit]

@@mikealsomikealsomike7502 with these new laws I'm thinking you won't be able to get many ebikes online. It would be illegal for e-bike companies to ship illegal ebikes into California.

[@mikealsomikealsomike7502]

@ I agree to a degree, but if the only way to get a bike that actually can climb a hill is to go online and buy one, then people will do that. They will absolutely not be able to get one from a bike shop, and that is the problem. When over 70% of the products that people want are not available in one place, they will go to another.

[@GarrattHamster]

Hahahahah. Glad you mentioned the eu. But the uk still sucks. We maybe out of the eu. But still have the same laws. Naffing 250w and 15.5mph and ironically the only one good in my life leaving eu could be good about. The rest is so shite throw. But heya is the interesting thing. We have a company now that can legally sell e-bikes with 250w motor and still go up 15.5mph and have a throttle. The laws were been looked at to do 500w and maybe up to 20mph. At least you can still do some speed and more power we got. But yeah. That’s really stupid to get rid of throttle. But still peddle that speed and course. To get out the way quickly. Clearly these people are so clueless on anything.

[@AmaethonThemagician-w8l]

I bought a fake sticker on Amazon that says class 2 e-bike That's my solution 😁 with the legal wattage and it's saying 20 mph lol

[@shocfacter]

I THOUGHT i recognized the area you were riding in. All of that back there at the middle part of your video looked familiar and then you rode past that school at 17:55 in the video and I figured it out. I live in Los Banos and I work with PG&E. We're always back in that area doing pole maintenance and inspections. Anyway, I fully agree with your take on these ridiculous E-bike laws. Keep up the good work.

[@iMotoTactic00L]

Thanks to our Gov Newsom!!!! 😡

[@SansooIan]

750W is not enough for some of these hills. Fine 28 MPH. Okay Allow me a 5000-10000w Bike to ALLOW ME to MAINTAIN 25MPH UPHILL. Brain Rot Politicians. OH BUT INSIDER TRADING IS OKAY RIGHT PELOSI?

[@mikealsomikealsomike7502]

@@SansooIan perfectly said

[@LyonelGhecko]

If I lived in almost any other state I'd be weary of those new laws. I live in Texas, so I'll be fine. To my understanding our cars don't even need to renew their sticker anymore

[@bryan1174]

Hey north valley ebike diy builder here I have a Schwinn stingray o.c. chopper with a 48v battery and a modest motor in the front my controller feeds between 11-1300 watts that has been safety inspected and passed by the chp I have a skills and safety certificate as well as a m1 and for 2 and a half years been mixed use bike paths and city roadway with no incident. I called my chp office and asked what this law means for me? They don't even know nor does the PD or sheriff department the cops have seen me interact with traffic safely signals and all I wear a dot helmet out of common sense. And it seems like I'm being punished because Karen. Doesn't want to tell her kid no or take responsibility for her own actions. I don't post my speeds because now that's an admission of guilt. But just say I keep pace with traffic and can safely getaway from distracted drivers. 20-28 mph is not safe for anyone who is commuting in city especially in the valley I'm almost tempted to go full genx and full outlaw with my triple 48v dual controller 2 wheel drive build (2 "750w"x4 motors 🥸3k watts each I built for drag racing) and say fuck it

[@bryan1174]

Sorry got carried away

[@MikeLeeRosario2369]

Well the cops in Spokane Washington have already stated that if you have a bicycle that goes up to 28 mi an hour or if you change the sprockets on there to make it go even higher if you're using your own legs to make that bike go very fast then you're not speeding because under the legal law they state that the bicycle is the oldest transport in the world and they cannot legally give you a ticket for using your own power to force that bike to go very fast. Because his grandfathered in through law

[@BadSector]

if you follow traffic laws and law enforcement doesn't have time to deal with it. plenty of squids doing stupid stuff making a bad name for the rest of us.

[@unwillingful]

I believe if your e-bike goes 28mph you have to register it as a moped don't you? Doesn't that also mean it needs headlight, tail light, horn and turn signals?

[@tyrushouse6766]

ANOTHER ANSWER TO THIS ONE IS TO HAVE [ AGE RESTRICTIONS ON ALL 3 SPEEDS LAWS ] SOMETIMES TEENAGERS ARE NOT READY FOR SPEEDS 20 + MPH EVEN SOME ADULTS . THE GOVERMENT HAVE ALWAYS BEEN DOING AGE RESTRICTIONS LAWS AND THEY NEED TO KEEP DOING THINGS THAT WAY . THE CURRENT TECHNOLOGY TODAY IS MORE ADVANCE SO THE RESPONSIBILITY MUST BE A DEMAND SO THE GOVERMENT AND BIG COMPANIES WONT FEEL THAT THEY HAVE TO STEP IN ON EVERYTHING . IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT THERE'S ALWAYS SOME KIND OF [ DOMINO EFFECT ] WHEN IT COME TO HUMAN SURVIVAL . ( EVERYTHING MATTERS BUT NOTHING MOVES )

[@DesuVR]

The really bad thing about suing Super 73 is what are they gonna have to do so they right their 'wrong'? Put safeguards in place so you can't modify the bike? Meaning proprietary components that will not only raise the prices of their bikes, but also make it near impossible to service and repair it yourself going against our right to repair. I hate how car-brained people are nowadays, they're only making things worse on themselves and everybody around them.

[@WaffleStaffel]

The e-bike industry should pick one universal display to controller protocol, then people can buy the bike with the speed limit, and an inexpensive aftermarket display to override the speed/torque limit. Or better yet, the on-off/key should communicate the limits, and they can replace that with a keyswitch/throttle combo.

[@youbikewithatube]

You need to go to the source and find out who sponsored this bill, who created it, and who voted for it who was pushing it and paying for it and why. Those people have to get voted out period! If you don’t they will only come up with more dumb ideas like these and like weeds in a garden. Nothing good will they do but breed ridiculousness over and over again.

[@rufusirvin5279]

When I was young I had people clock me on their cars pedaling 35 mph easily on flat ground, no GPS back then. I'm 72 now and can drive my mountain bike at 27 mph on GPS. Fatter tires than road bike so slower. I bought an ebike and it makes 20 mph then cuts out the motor but I can still pedal a 80 lbs 4 " tire bike up to 24 mph. Never given a problem in all these years of pedaling 35 mph so how do these people know I'm not pedaling and using the motor? It is very dangerous to drive a bike with cars. Remember big always wins. Governments are really only now realizing bikes and cars don't mix without risk to someones life. Bikes were here before cars and they will always be here.

[@huuma79]

My heavy class 3 I got 1 year ago is more dangerous with just pas. Dude you have to have a license for a 15 mph e-scooter

[@rudysoriano4994]

so basically to sum it up, I can't use my throttle to reach my max speed of 28 mph?

[@scootermcgee8064]

Why did California do this? Because of people using e-bikes to avoid having to register a motorcycle

[@UltraBrian]

California didn’t do this, the law has always been the same as before, so stop freaking out!

[@mikealsomikealsomike7502]

@@UltraBrian California did this to punish people who are low to middle class; anyone saying anything different is not intelligent or a bad person

[@marcs4091]

In most states it's under $10 a year to register a moped, problem solve let's move on,

[@Sweetersweet2006]

So if I want throttle I have to get one I can register with dmv

[@noahlapuz3853]

Sensible video. I feel your pain and I'm not from CA. Similar things are happening all over the world. Stricter laws for those who have jobs or small businesses who buy and use stuff. But "they" pick on ebikers or cyclists and almost totally ignore drug addicts, criminals, and other more urgent matters. It's a weird time that we live in.

[@alanbomb]

The law is just to have in writing. But most dont bother you if youre just riding respectfully. If you do stupid stuff and cop is having a bad day they can use the law against you. Ill take my chance.

[@PrettyGoodLookin]

Get your info together on a White Paper explaining why it's a bad idea. Especially talk about the hill climbing. Contact your State Rep. for a meeting. See if you can help get this sorted out.

[@charlesgray7642]

I agree with you on the new law. It is ridiculous, I have a stock E-bike that will go 33 or34 mph, I have dual 1000 watt motors. I got this bike because i got rid of my truck because of the cost Payment, reg. ins. tires, tune-ups, oil changes, Etc. So I pull a bike trailer when I have to go shopping I have two totes that fit perfectly in the trailer. The totes are 28"L X 19.5" W X 15"D, when I get groceries I fill the bottom tote with heavy items put the lid on and fill the 2nd with lite items, I strap them down one on top of the other with bungee cords. Now groceries are heavy, I live in Sac. I wanted my bike to be able to do 45mph because With two 1000W motors I can't legally use the bike lane, So I wanted to be able when I had to ride without holding traffic up. Now when I have my boxes full I don't go over 20mph because it is harder to stop and the trailer is narrower than it is tall. So I need the throttle to get the load moving, I would say that the trailer is close to 150lbs. with a month of groceries in it. I have had no problems with traffic or speed or police. When I first got the bike I was coming home late/early one Monday morning (3:00a.m.), I needed to turn left and crossed the road two blocks before my turn and was pulled over. mainly cause the cop wanted to see the bike but he told me I have to ride the same as a motorcycle would. So he asked how fast the bike was I said 35mph., I asked him how fast I could ride, he said I could not exceed the posted speed limit of the street I was on. Now does this law mean that motorcycles can't have a throttle anymore.I think an E- bike license would have been a more appropriate law, I'm already required to wear a helmet at all times and register the bike "by law". I ride with others safty in mind as well as my own, I ride responsibly and safely.

[@JohnLeitch-sq4fs]

Could be a human right to have transportation like this if we're allowed to have guns, we should be able to allowed to have e bikes .. that can get up a hill with a throttle . It's more dangerous to peddle while going 28 ... Americans with disability action get involved.. it is discriminatory towards heavy people ..

[@ABoringTool]

E bike which can do 30 on throttle==unsafe illegal E bike going 30 pedaling while carrying a 45==safe and legal

[@JohnBabcock-qy1cs]

A bunch of things to cover. Peak wattage. Bikes should have a non-descriptive motor . No information. #2: have a almost totally dead small battery to be ready to switch over to. No possible way to achieve even 5 mph on a dyno. Peak wattage probably like 200 watts. Flip over to this dead battery and only able to turn on display and lights. No power to motor almost. Action #3 reset for display information needs to be one touch and fast. Cops gather no info from previous ride. Step #4 Blue tooth and voice command app to E bike. Tell e bike increase speed and it does without a throttle. Say "40 mph" and bike jumps to 40mph . Brake cuts off power until you say resume 40mph. This can all be done in easy fashion. Setting limits and speeds by voice command. Even limit your peak wattage output could be done by an app and voice command on the fly.😂

[@ELECTRICBIKEDIYLIFE]

I've got to take that 1000 watt sticker off of my front motor. I can't tell if the new law mentions anything about dual hub motors. That might be a loophole for bigger riders. 2 750W peak power motors would fix the hill climbing issue.

[@B2theV]

So custom battery builders like Chi and Amorge or hobbyists and DIYers won't be able to build or ship a battery into California? Wow.

[@stevenwilliams7845]

It’s just that we’re living in different times. People need to be a little more responsible responsible for their children’s actions. You know we don’t have the infrastructure for E bikes they don’t have special lanes for us. We’re not fast enough to ride in traffic. It’s probably all about money who knows

[@coolerking7427]

Trust me there is ways to get around it.

[@rcadventuresoffical]

i agree, they should have zero restrictions, only enforce speed limits... since in the end that's all that really matters

[@stevej6824]

Speed limit on the freeways is between 55 and 75 in California. My car can 200+ mph. The power and top speed should be irrelevant. My e-bike has 2000watts and can hit 45+ But I don’t do those speeds. It should be up to the operator. If you exceed the limit then you should pay the price. It’s as simple as that.

[@mikealsomikealsomike7502]

@@stevej6824 thank you its not that dificult. Unfortunately it looks like this is just punish people with low to middle class who can not afford a $10,000 bike that actually works

[@matthewdenham7398]

I have two e scooters and they’re perfectly fine here as long as I ride them between 20-25 kph as that’s the maximum speed for e scooters and e bikes in Queensland

[@hassandjhaboogiespin4550]

yea’ peddle assist, & Throttle makes the E bike illegal, But Just Thank that 12 year old & his Mom who Did not know Certain things, and Super73 Ebikes who she Took to Court, its All Crazy🤦🏽‍♂️😮‍💨, and Politics, Thanks to Frantic TV for Coverage, thats how i heard about it!!!!

[@bodyemcal]

Here i was wanting to get an ebike to ride to work.. i held back because i knew they would screw it up somehow

[@Thierry-in-Londinium]

Your right, the EU laws suck and remove allot of the joy in e-biking. None of the latest USA & chinese bikes can be legally rode here. Its super disappointing. All valid points you make about California laws spreading beyond its borders to other states and zones. Cos its still viewed as a 'leader'

[@hassandjhaboogiespin4550]

yeah them Public bikes Are being Hacked, No Helmets being Worn, and Some of them Are Fast Too!!! So… Where are the Regulations for them????🤷🏿‍♂️😩😳, Just Crazzee… Wild Smh….

[@-aid4084]

It's so stupid, speed regulations for electric bikes should be the speed limit, and normal bikes do actually gave to follow the speed limit(or read the road)

[@JohnBabcock-qy1cs]

Needs to be blue tooth for directing bike to assume max wattage of 750 watts and max speed 20 or 28 mph. Then you can option after that to go to maximum wattage and speeds. You could set 5 mph increment to give command.. increase power, increase power, etc.. braking will reduce power to minimum and you can say resume maximum power or increase power to your desired increment. No throttle needed. Also say mph desired and it goes to desired speed. Have soft setting or a way to change take off power. All voice commands. Black Box! Blue tooth. When you get out of any phone signal it will only give 750 watts and 20-28 mph by default until you reconnect. Reset display should be included by voice. All of this can be done. Then you can only get a speeding ticket with no way of cops being able to say you have over 750 watts or that you have gone over 28 on display.

[@jefflundquist5771]

For me, 25 mph is a good cruising eBike speed when staying out of main traffic and enjoying recreational trails, just enjoying the scenery. I have a Harley-Davidson for other purposes.

[@osm131]

i have a 2000 watt and I ride at 18 mile an hr peddle assist we have a lot of cops around.

[@mkeonine]

You're absolutely right. This is gonna turn into the EU sooner or later. Just lame as shit. Let's just hope 750w allowable is the lowest it's gonna get. lol.

[@bombblast1298]

They should put a age restriction because there is a lot of older folks enjoying the freedom to move around I own a bike I got one for my grandpa who can barely walk he enjoys it immensely

[@JamesLerem]

That's part of the new law, age restrictions.

[@bombblast1298]

Thanks for the info I just don't understand why they have to be more strict about throttle because my grandpa is not going to use a pedals that's why I bought it for him it's not a super 73 or Surin but it does has throttle and it does go about 28 mph it looks like your basic bike with a battery on it

[@ramborambokitchenkitchen6357]

28mph speed limit is great, however I don’t see what difference it makes if you are activating a cadence sensor with your legs or twisting a throttle to get there. The 750w peak thing makes 99% of ebikes in California already sold in recent years illegal. Even a lowly 15amp controller with a 48v battery will output much more power than 750 watts. It’s quite obvious whoever wrote the law hasn’t ever ridden an ebike and has no clue how they actually work.

[@SerPounceToebeans]

I'm in SFV area and the pigs here don't care, as long as you don't start doing stupid stuff to draw attention.

[@MrCentralDriver]

Same

[@SpacemanOnWheels]

These laws are made for street riding, im sure the companies are going to still make off-road ebikes to get around that bs

[@jsEMCsquared]

Ive seen stand on scooters for adults that go 55 mph

[@JohnLeitch-sq4fs]

That's wouldn't of been a thing till Luigi got his getaway car as an E bike now the elites want them regulated

[@danavery7978]

Don't get rid of the more powerful bikes make it like a moped that way to be legal it would have to have lights turn signals a horn mirrors a plate and registration

[@KOD_72]

Cant have nothing in california🙄🙄

[@Rick-fe8xn]

Facts!! The one thing cali politicians don't seem to care about is actual CRIME

[@Trillville43]

Thats ebike riders fault

[@1BADDAD]

Demonrats keeping people down.

[@UltraBrian]

We can still have 28 mph pedal assist and 20 throttle limit which is still legal according to the new law, so we still have everything in California.

[@UltraBrian]

@@Trillville43nope, that’s nobodies fault.

[@benvsreality]

Maybe if our government here in California fines ebike throttle users a billion times, they can use the revenue to cover up more of their incompetence.

[@VEGITAS4]

It’s all about money. They don’t make money from e-bikes, they make money from cars. A license plate means they can easily track you with cameras and mail you tickets. A license plate means the police can pull up behind you and scan your license plates to see if they can give you a ticket for something. A license plate means insurance companies can overcharge you for insurance and the government requires you to have insurance or they will give you a ticket. E-bikes represent freedom from all that nonsense and the government can’t have that.

[@robryan2079]

To answer your question about scooters... the max speed is technically 15mph here in CA. But it is NEVER enforced in any way. I have a scooter that goes 32mph and no one seems to care, it was made by a company in California of all things. Nice thing about scooters, that can't ban throttles!

[@MikeLeeRosario2369]

It's just the way of the law to make more laws that don't make any sense of any kind that's like the law that they have in Idaho state where I seen some guy drive over the train tracks and someone told about that I got that guy in trouble for doing that for no stupid reason and the guy goes well you could do that and oregon and that same guy that got him in trouble got Idaho's law to go into effect in Oregon as well. Which that is actually illegal two states cannot interlab with each other's laws that came from a lawyer's mouth. So it's all about the lawmakers controlling the people and what they can do and what they can't do.

[@KOD_72]

If they want my ebike they gonna have to go through brock samson to get it

[@EcDanny-88]

I agree with everything you said in this vid

[@FullSpectrumWarrior]

You answered your question. It’s pedal….we pedaled up hills on regular ol 20in bikes then 10 speed then 18 speed etc.

[@lilvegasbasc-se7en-0-duece67]

Cali is done lmao.. FL is probably next considering we had an older lady actually die because a teenager on a S73 hit her.

[@megaboz42]

Theoretically this makes ebikes that don't fit the criteria laid out in 1271 mopeds, right? Well if the DMV will register my ebike as a moped without a Certificate of Title and a VIN, I guess that's ok. It's only $23. You don't need insurance for mopeds in California. I'll grumble a bit if I have to get a M2 license, but I guess I'll do it. But now that my ebike is registered as a moped, I can't ride it in bicycle lanes! I HAVE TO ride in traffic with cars! Does ANYONE think that's a good idea? For my son's Magicycle Cruiser that exceeds 750W peak, and has a top speed of 29mph on a good day? (Throttle only, ghost peddling at that speed.) Or my 1000W Kepler? (Throttle only top speed: 31-34 mph) For any other regular ebike that's offers riders the choice between class 2 20mph top speed and class 3 28mph max pedal assist? There must be some middle ground.

[@Trillville43]

Yall know the laws and ignore them, and people record themselves doing stupid stuff all the time. If you want to go fast on your bike then you want a motorcycle and need to get it tagged and insured it's that simple. People want the hassle free classification of an ebike without it actually being considered an ebike

[@zztop7000]

This is BAD NEWS for E-bike business I'm NOT going to buy high performance E-bike what's the point? If cops will confiscate your E-bike and get tickets this is soo STUPID electric scooters is could be next target

[@dan4e2u]

Do you think if you ride responsibly on a bandit X trail pro in CA they will come after you?