Why Whole Cake Island Was Underrated: The Complete Arc Analysis

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@strawhatoverlord9184
@strawhatoverlord9184 4 жыл бұрын
Idr where I saw it but my favorite point about the Katakuri fight is that he's the only antagonist so far who stopped asking Luffy "Why won't you stay down ? You're just a dumb kid, I've been doing this longer than you've been alive, I'm too strong for you" and started asking himself "Why can't *I* keep him down ? If I'm so strong and amazing, then how is this kid getting back up and keeping up with me ?"
@fallzero7304
@fallzero7304 3 жыл бұрын
The way I saw it was Luffy has already won and lost many fights and on both he never gave up He always had his ass beat out before he can figure out a way to end the fight Katakuri on the other hand has never been felt defeated since he basically uses his advanced observation haki and just wins the fight easily So when two guys with a contrasting background met for a duel the arising of this case was just naturally brilliant
@nineveh17
@nineveh17 2 жыл бұрын
*dies of cringe*
@jorgeandrestaverareyes7381
@jorgeandrestaverareyes7381 2 жыл бұрын
Karakuri should've won, too much plot armor there
@peacefulwarrior9518
@peacefulwarrior9518 2 жыл бұрын
Morj lost the ability to pronounce yonkou halfway through the video
@dashaunmckenzie5357
@dashaunmckenzie5357 2 жыл бұрын
Love this point
@adamshadow9881
@adamshadow9881 6 жыл бұрын
My god, when bringing up all of these points and explaining them to their absolute core. Whole Cake really is a different type of arc from One Piece and from everything explained it's SOOOO much better. Thank you so much for doing this analysis it really put One Piece as a whole on another level.
@berndarndt9924
@berndarndt9924 6 жыл бұрын
@@mr.unknown731 what was wrong with them?
@Zimran03
@Zimran03 6 жыл бұрын
Bernd Arndt Yea there were only small segments of WCI with poor animation. Like 80% of it was actually good
@Zimran03
@Zimran03 6 жыл бұрын
Mr. Unknown It isn’t the Dressrosa arc again.
@bachelorgoosy9145
@bachelorgoosy9145 5 жыл бұрын
He didn't even adress the main criticism about this arc at all. The Big Mom Pirates seem incompetent and some of them were solely introduced as deus-ex-machina for the SHs to escape/overcome.
@daemonspade8316
@daemonspade8316 5 жыл бұрын
@@bachelorgoosy9145 Absolutely baseless. You're talking about Brulee and Brulee had good characterization for the little screentime she had. She was an essential piece of the BM pirates that was captured by Chopper and Carrot by using her own powers against her. The only time Brulee was a convenience was when she came out of the Sunny's mirror worried about Kata. There was no Deus-Ex-Machina. Oven was a threat that Pound had to sacrifice himself to overcome. Perospero was a threat that Pedro had to sacrifice to overcome. Pekoms' Sulong form was a potential formidable ally that was instantly subdued and blinded permanently. Big Mom was a threat that took the entirety of the Germa and Sun Pirates to overcome. There were plenty of close calls in the arc that the SHs escaped due to their own efforts, the efforts of those that wanted to help them and even through setups that were made long before.
@DemonFox369
@DemonFox369 6 жыл бұрын
Pound is the only character who has died because he was forgotten... wow, that was powerful Edit: *nervous sweat*
@ziyadkhalil8980
@ziyadkhalil8980 6 жыл бұрын
God, Oda is genius in character writing
@danyosuna7276
@danyosuna7276 6 жыл бұрын
yes but his will lives on Begie! and he knows it before dying
@phantomdragon3893
@phantomdragon3893 6 жыл бұрын
No he sacrificed himself for his daughter. His daughter and him never met, so how he can be forgotten ?
@nielaverion
@nielaverion 6 жыл бұрын
agreed
@mwoakill09
@mwoakill09 5 жыл бұрын
@sinnerandprejudice ikr. if one piece was a class subject he'd be one of the top students. 3rd time watching this and morj said that WCI is an actual melting pot. it blew my mind. made me compare WCI and America. WCI is just the opposite, Like girly and sweets instead of bbq, burger, fried chicken, guns, explosion.
@gurugurumarimo5294
@gurugurumarimo5294 6 жыл бұрын
WCI is one of the best One Piece Arcs Post Timeskip due to its unpredictablity, theme, plots, characters .....etc.The arc was a roller coaster of emotions . Glad some one agrees with it.
@Hellismary
@Hellismary 5 жыл бұрын
🤔.... nah
@wheeb5174
@wheeb5174 4 жыл бұрын
The osts are crazy ...
@MrRobot-0
@MrRobot-0 4 жыл бұрын
The virgin dressrossa vs the chad whole cake.
@MrRobot-0
@MrRobot-0 4 жыл бұрын
@Lionard Kirsch i have problems with dressrosa but dint hate it, oda droped the ball a litle i happenes for the jokes we do he still human
@RRRRRRRRR33
@RRRRRRRRR33 4 жыл бұрын
It was not really unpredictable. The center piece of the arc, Sanji, everybody knew he would be rescued just like Robin was. As for the big mom pirates being inspired on food, that was obvious ever since Oda showed big mom's demanding food and salivating like crazy. When Oda fully exposed the wonderland theme, it became clear how big mom would not be a defacto opponent, she actually throw her minions against the protagonists just like the original queen of hearts did. As for luffy facing the evolution of his devil fruit, that was a nice surprise. Oda clearly disregarding the devil fruit powers in favor of haki... but sadly, it had a extreme doses of plot armor as well. Luffy learning advanced haki on the fly, suddenly a new transformation who basically teared a new hole in the dressrosa plotline, the incredible "awakening" of katakuri (opening portals through the rice candy dimension to summon more arms), etc.. Sanji having a legit romance was the higher point of this mess, same for Brook finally showing his worth. Other than that, whole cake is incredibly flawed.
@dr_vegapunk13
@dr_vegapunk13 6 жыл бұрын
The unpredictable nature of this arc reminded of Chimera arc of Hunter x Hunter. This chaotic setup was an element missing from One Piece. I believe that community was negative because the arc was bigger than expected and the hyped Wano Arc got delayed. But we all must appreciate this wonderful journey and enjoy all the unexpected detours.
@jahntyd.rouffy8872
@jahntyd.rouffy8872 4 жыл бұрын
Sabaody Archipielago T2O had this nature and wauuuuu what and Arc was Sabaody ❤🔥
@fastaskirby2414
@fastaskirby2414 3 жыл бұрын
This chaotic element were always there since the beginning, you failed yourself. Now go back and rewatch OP from the start
@posthumous_me
@posthumous_me 3 жыл бұрын
Lol that’s because togashi be making up the story as he goes 🤣
@sarov7658
@sarov7658 3 жыл бұрын
@@posthumous_me making up?he back from hiatus?
@fallzero7304
@fallzero7304 3 жыл бұрын
@@sarov7658 Nah that's how he usually does write Not a fan of HxH since by killing off characters he wastes the potential of enlarging the story but since the guy might die before giving us a proper story i honestly don't even consider getting into the fandom anymore
@jpem4664
@jpem4664 6 жыл бұрын
One underrated aspect of the 3rd act is that it was the first real naval set piece we've ever had. Loved rereading it after I realized just how much ship time there was with the fleet battle and big mom battle against the sunny.
@portablecar5328
@portablecar5328 4 жыл бұрын
yeah heading into one piece i was expecting more naval warfare but we rarely get that and when we do its usually just marines missing everyshot
@justbny9278
@justbny9278 4 жыл бұрын
@@portablecar5328 and whenever they don't miss their shots get tossed aside or slashed or something of the like i guess not having a whole lot of long range power users breaks things a bit
@dabillya6845
@dabillya6845 3 жыл бұрын
that was one of the worst parts sadly, wish we saw more of the physical island.
@AegeanOlive
@AegeanOlive 2 жыл бұрын
@@dabillya6845 we see that all the time already, in like every single arc, like morj said, whole cake is a breath of fresh air for what felt like a series that had begun to fall into a pattern
@cbmatty9262
@cbmatty9262 6 жыл бұрын
Dude honestly you are one of the only One Piece youtubers I respect. You actually care about the nuance of the series while the rest are just people who ride the hype for the views. Give me more youtubers like this and less "LUFFY'S DEMONIC GEAR 6 REVEALED!!! KAIDO AND MIHAWK!!!!!"
@SabirKhan-wu6je
@SabirKhan-wu6je 6 жыл бұрын
Trafalgar Brah ""luffys demonic gear 6th revealed"" I am dying of laughter from the truth spouted.
@adrianhebreros
@adrianhebreros 6 жыл бұрын
A SECOND DF FOR LUFFY? DOES ZORO HAVE THE SHARINGAN?
@davidbujna8480
@davidbujna8480 6 жыл бұрын
"MOMO IS URANUS?!", "USOPP'S HIDDEN POWER "GOD OF DECEPTION!" I hate such theories and op youtube channels We need more of this guys and GrandLineReview
@oscararias6448
@oscararias6448 6 жыл бұрын
@@davidbujna8480 Don't forget to include the Po D Cast.
@daddy-odizzy5180
@daddy-odizzy5180 6 жыл бұрын
Tekking101 is definitely another great One Piece KZbinr because he's hilarious and over-the-top but cares about the story and characters.
@heyarnold7256
@heyarnold7256 6 жыл бұрын
Just when I thought I couldn't love One Piece enough, you've suddenly rejuvenated my love for the series. Your channel is a godsend compared to all the other generic OP reviewers out there.
@tigervalley62
@tigervalley62 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@gamefreak2050
@gamefreak2050 5 жыл бұрын
Im really getting into him too, he's a great reviewer for sure. I also like LegendMac, Tekking, Sawyer and JoyBoy I think they are really good too- everyone has their strengths and weaknesses tho
@nea0496
@nea0496 5 жыл бұрын
tekking and Sawyer yes. I haven't seen legend mac so cant say. I will check him out. but joy boy is just hype train. and stating the very obvious or something utterly fanfiction like complete asspulls.
@JonborgVA
@JonborgVA 6 жыл бұрын
One thing I always say is that Manga is meant to be read when the Volumes are out and not in one chapter per week or you get burnt out waiting for things to move on
@adarshsridhar6051
@adarshsridhar6051 4 жыл бұрын
JonborgVA some arcs are like that. But I really like this Oden flashback chapters. It helps us make loads of theories and there is hype and excitement about it. It’s like not knowing how the next chapter will continue on after this chapter. Also people will spoil it for you if a banger chapter comes out
@BlackuKnighto
@BlackuKnighto 4 жыл бұрын
That might be true but nobody wants to wait 2 years for an arc to finish to then read it within about 3 days and having to wait another 2 years again afterwards.
@waynicliz
@waynicliz 4 жыл бұрын
@@BlackuKnighto i fucking hate how you have to wait for chapter i wish they could just give us more volumes so i could bidge wano
@udonnauchegbu2018
@udonnauchegbu2018 4 жыл бұрын
@@waynicliz Maybe they should give oda more pages to work with.
@waynicliz
@waynicliz 4 жыл бұрын
@@udonnauchegbu2018 wdym pages
@Powermeta11
@Powermeta11 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't realise there were people who thought the Whole Cake arc was poor. It was easily one of the best. Big Mom 10/10 villain.
@RRRRRRRRR33
@RRRRRRRRR33 4 жыл бұрын
You gotta be kidding, lol Moria wearing skirts who is strong like that because "she was born that way"? Hows that a good antagonist? Her flashback was pretty good, her design is kinda neat, using weather attacks and etc... she has some positive signs, but also some major negatives. Fire proof (hair literally on fire), electric proof, headbutted a fucking brachiosaurus and felt nothing (with no haki)... All that because she was born that way smh There's no argument in this entire series that is more cheap and lazy than this one
@Powermeta11
@Powermeta11 4 жыл бұрын
R I don’t think being inspirational is necessary for an antagonist. In fact the inverse is probably true.
@RRRRRRRRR33
@RRRRRRRRR33 4 жыл бұрын
@@Powermeta11 it's not about being "inspirational", it's about logic. Fantasy needs a set of rules to stay consistent, you can't simply come up with new powers and crazy justifications on the fly. One of the major plot points of whole cake is how big mom is a calamity, she is the time bomb plot device, etc... But to justify her strength, Oda tell us that she was born that way... And that's it? Get the fuck out of here
@dangerzone5828
@dangerzone5828 4 жыл бұрын
it was trash except for luffys fight
@allhailtheking6039
@allhailtheking6039 4 жыл бұрын
@@RRRRRRRRR33 What's fucking bad about that exactly? Even in the real world prodigies exist so how is that not believeble? I don't get it.
@mellamanq
@mellamanq 6 жыл бұрын
WCI before watching this video: 7/10 WCi after watching this video: 9/10
@davidmedina3031
@davidmedina3031 6 жыл бұрын
FACTS
@kingkaidou2444
@kingkaidou2444 6 жыл бұрын
Lmao True
@aeiouy2887
@aeiouy2887 6 жыл бұрын
^^^^
@njcking88
@njcking88 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah Im going to chill out watching live reactions cause all i see is negativity.
@gravitydragon1904
@gravitydragon1904 6 жыл бұрын
Kinda silly how you base your opinion off a youtube vid.
@cavendish2925
@cavendish2925 6 жыл бұрын
This. This video right here is the perfect example why you should be one of the bigger One Piece KZbinrs. Anyway, we'll get there eventually. You have all my support. This was truly a fantastic analysis of Whole Cake Island.
@adarshsridhar6051
@adarshsridhar6051 4 жыл бұрын
The only thing he forgot to mention was Luffys growth as a captain. Compare his conflict with Usopp and his conflict with Sanji. Also take in mind the beginning of Drum island where Vivi calls him a bad captain
@Kage-jk4pj
@Kage-jk4pj 4 жыл бұрын
2 years later and he still has basically no subscribers.
@KurokamiNajimi
@KurokamiNajimi 3 жыл бұрын
One Piece hasn’t been as good the last 5 or so years. Whole Cake and Wano are mediocre. Wish Drizzt hasn’t deleted most of his vids was still making weekly reviews. I might have agree with everything he said but he’s the only one who realizes how much the quality of the series has really dropped and he use to love One Piece. People like Moji and Joy Boy come off as fanboys who’ll love the series no matter what Oda throws at us
@cavendish2925
@cavendish2925 3 жыл бұрын
@@KurokamiNajimi The fact that you think Joy Boy and Morj who have spoken plenty about their own dislikes just as much as their likes about One Piece chapters in their weekly reactions/reviews as fanboys speaks volumes about your own biases against OP than them. Drizzt is living off negativity and loves the attention so I don't care if he's gone.
@KurokamiNajimi
@KurokamiNajimi 3 жыл бұрын
@@cavendish2925 My point is that they haven’t rated any of the main arcs less than anything great. Anyone can mention things they dislike about something that’s great. Enies Lobby for example imo has a great narrative behind it but the actual execution wasn’t that great as a whole compared to the Water 7 half. Sanji logically should have been killed on the train, going after CP9 alone made 0 sense. The excuse for why the Straw Hats could not only hang with CP9 but ultimately defeat them despite the fact beforehand they were completely devastated even by weaker members was really bad. It’s a case of where the author realizes he made the enemies too powerful. Even within the train fight itself we clearly see Sanji struggling to defeat Blueno yet he mid difs Jabra who was more than twice as powerful just based on doriki, let alone factoring in his DF. Even Luffy was somewhat struggling with Blueno (ironically I think this was a better fight than the Lucci one) which actually made sense. Lucci was over 4x as powerful in base+DF and Luffy holds up and ultimately wins with nakama speech motivation. The fights overall weren’t that good imo even rereading or watching them. Then there was how the Buster call was hyped to hell and was said to have an Admiral accompanying them even though there wasn’t one bc if there was the Straw Hats would have died, why even state that in the first place. Even without an Admiral it still made no sense it couldn’t take out a wounded group of rookie pirates, Luffy at that point couldn’t even move. They shouldn’t even have gotten to the point where Sanji closing the gates saved them. Water 7/Enies Lobby is still probably my favorite arc in the series so far
@MrSpandam
@MrSpandam 6 жыл бұрын
I agree with everything Especially characters design is 10/10
@arturia7978
@arturia7978 5 жыл бұрын
Oven🤮🤮
@jamescagang5756
@jamescagang5756 5 жыл бұрын
That Long Neck Swordswoman is sick. Hope they'll make a 2 feet figurine of her. Her body is figurine-worthy.
@jorollo1337
@jorollo1337 4 жыл бұрын
​@@jamescagang5756 Amande's design is just perfect
@arkinyte13
@arkinyte13 4 жыл бұрын
I love the babe with the horns and butter powers.
@Bankai75730
@Bankai75730 3 жыл бұрын
Designs and devil fruit powers 🙌🏾
@takamaru9442
@takamaru9442 6 жыл бұрын
You just shat on the entire one piece KZbin reviewing community. You proved why this arc was a great arc rather than just spewing bullshit like "this was trash" with 0 substance in the statement every chapter. Amazing job bro. Do this for every arc.. wano and reverie please! 10/10 W Classic I swear only you and Joy boy theories are the only youtubers who look deeply into the story
@SuperBallani
@SuperBallani 6 жыл бұрын
you don't know King Recon and Craftsdwarfs dude. Recon is the most passionate dude i have ever seen for One Piece, Craftdwarfs made an incredible video, arguibly even better than this one on The familial theme of One Piece, with a very long time spent on WCI. check Recon's channel and Craftsdwarf video dude, trust me it's worth it.
@sasakihaise5739
@sasakihaise5739 6 жыл бұрын
I think joyboy is shitty too because he get so salty when his stupid theories are proven wrong. Beside i completely agree a lot of them are shitty specially king of lighting and rogersbase and others like them.
@sasakihaise5739
@sasakihaise5739 6 жыл бұрын
@@SuperBallani agree, i love both of their content. Sunpatch is good too. Except them other mainstream ones see one piece with their Dragon ball mentally when in reality one piece focus is story not fighting. Even with the major fight oda wants tell a story like luffy vs katakuri and how both them grow jn fight and at end respect each other.
@meow-chan9062
@meow-chan9062 3 жыл бұрын
Try king of lightning
@frauleinzuckerguss1906
@frauleinzuckerguss1906 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Tekking
@mistedscript2722
@mistedscript2722 2 жыл бұрын
My favourite part of the katakuri fight has to be the end, where Luffy recovers Katakuri's face his hat. He knew how important it was for Katakuri to hide his different mouth, and had enough respect for his opponent to hide it post fight. The second half was built around the respect the two combatants had for eachother, and it shows all the way. Katakuri wounding himself to fight on even grounds, Katakuri stopped hiding himself to Luffy as a show of respect, even the already mentioned Luffy covering Katakuri's face because he knew the importance of it. I will always consider this fight the best in the series. With it's visuals and it's message, it's too damn good
@Dragonfury3000_2
@Dragonfury3000_2 Жыл бұрын
They became brothers in that fight I belive
@TQsquad
@TQsquad Жыл бұрын
this was definitely the best one piece fight
@TwilightYonder720
@TwilightYonder720 6 жыл бұрын
I feel like the "hate" for the 3rd Act of the arc started as you said because it was a assumed that the Wedding was gonna be the end BUT at that same very time all of the 20th Anniversary news/interviews were coming out talking about the future of the series and those expectations mixed with an unexpected 3rd act left a lot of western readers impatient and whiny (Dressrosa had a similar case) which lead to some sort of resentment towards it. Personally I loved reading these chapters weekly it was the most on the edge of my chair I've felt since I've started reading OP each chapter felt like such a surprise
@juckoosaurus
@juckoosaurus 6 жыл бұрын
also the editors didn't shut their mouth and stoked the fires of the impatient fans. Them telling WCI was ending soon and Wano was gonna start made the section of the fandom awaiting Wano get excited and then get more and more annoyed when the arc was not ending. Its not entirely their fault but honestly it feels like something that will mellow in the coming years , I remember how people used to hate Fishman Island but slowly now its seems more people are coming out and praising it for this good parts instead of hating on it completely.
@TwilightYonder720
@TwilightYonder720 6 жыл бұрын
They are allowed to promote their Biggest IP the problem was a assumed deadline that it was gonna end by the end of the year when it didn't, One Piece has a record of Oda "saying" it'd be soon but pushed back since he probably got a burst of ideas/make a proper conclusion. Like even now Naito "says" the Reverie will end in like a volume's worth but it can not (although I'm sure it's already story boarded but still just assuming deadlines) As for the fans pretty much all internet anime fans are bitchy man children, most of whom only thing Sabo/Katakuri "Saved" Dressrosa/Tottoland because they were *BadAZZ*
@juckoosaurus
@juckoosaurus 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah you bring up an interesting point that those kidn of fans seem to have forgotten and taken OP's consistent releases for granted
@TwilightYonder720
@TwilightYonder720 6 жыл бұрын
I kinda ranted at the end but it's been bothering me.
@guyguino5770
@guyguino5770 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah I feel like the editor should stop giving estimations for when an arc will end, because it's obvious now that he has absolutely no idea how long will last. He keeps giving us estimations that turn out to be false. Time and time again this editor has been making us set unrealistic expectations, making us lose hype and feel disappointed when those expectations aren't met. Whole Cake Island wouldve felt better to read it those expectations weren't hovering over my head all the time. This editor needs to be paid to shut his mouth honestly.
@ChiefBarnesArt
@ChiefBarnesArt 6 жыл бұрын
WCI is top 5 greatest arc’s in one piece.. it only flaw is it kind of over stayed it’s welcome7-10 chapters then it should ... reason why fans are indifferent to WCI is fans wanted wano and the reverie. in a nutshell fans impatience’s made WCI feel lack lustered. But when you look back at the arc it is fantastic. WCI is probably top 3 arc’s in fact..
@strongwise1255
@strongwise1255 6 жыл бұрын
wci is my 2nd fav after water7 (without enies lobby)
@Ampaomike
@Ampaomike 6 жыл бұрын
majority of One piece community are Zoro fanboys. ....No Zoro = Boring arc bs.
@berndarndt9924
@berndarndt9924 6 жыл бұрын
I only didn't like the open end. The reverie on the other hand was way to short in my opinion. It totally would deserve an arc.
@jesusburgess6252
@jesusburgess6252 6 жыл бұрын
Top 5 is a bit of a stretch.
@tigervalley62
@tigervalley62 5 жыл бұрын
I agree, wouldn't say it's the best arc in the entire series, but it's up there, and by far the best one post time skip.
@vpaku
@vpaku 6 жыл бұрын
10/10 best wci analysis on KZbin Edit: nevermind 9/10 because there was no mention of brooks awesomeness
@lesten2707
@lesten2707 6 жыл бұрын
Donquixote Doflamingo Right?! how dare he forget Brook!!! XD lol
@PhantomGreyfire
@PhantomGreyfire 2 жыл бұрын
00:00:00 ⟾ Overall, Impressions, Uniqueness 00:00:18 ⟾ Creative Aspect - Art, Imagination, Blend of Genres, Different Flavours 00:01:20 ⟾ Creative Concepts - fantastical locations, races, souls, mirror dimension, world of books, song 00:02:12 ⟾ Small Scenes, world weirdness 00:02:42 ⟾ Imagery/Art - memorable, stylized art 00:03:27 ⟾ Character Designs - bizarre, distinct looks 00:03:53 ⟾ Music - Disney theme, tone, climax scene, closing scene 00:04:53 ⟾ Creative Aspect - Summary 00:05:03 ⟾ Storytelling - split crew, mysteries, schemes, noire, intrigue, unique setup, unpredictability, final stretch 00:10:18 ⟾ Villains - Big Mom: overgrown child, brand of evil, willpower 00:12:30 ⟾ Villains - Katakuri: design, powers, unpredictable fight, mirror, ending and willpower, mutual respect 00:18:48 ⟾ Character Deaths - darker atmosphere, darker plot, creepy scenery, night time, sombre ending 00:19:46 ⟾ Character Deaths - Pedro 00:21:30 ⟾ Character Deaths - Pound 00:23:31 ⟾ Themes - Sweetness: traps 00:24:41 ⟾ Themes - Importance of Being Yourself: 3 main characters 00:24:51 ⟾ Pudding - backstory, twist, shame, third eye, cruelty, big act 00:26:58 ⟾ Katakuri - appearance, responsibility, big act, persona, motivations 00:28:01 ⟾ Sanji - consistent motivation 00:28:34 ⟾ Themes - Food: value of food, Luffy (stuffed and starved), Big Mom (cake), 00:31:19 ⟾ Luffy Worth Betting On - proving himself against the impossible, willpower and strength, Roger comparisons, Morgans, Katakuri, Fifth Emperor 00:34:51 ⟾ Criticisms - Pacing: stretching after Tea Party, progress to a clear end 00:36:44 ⟾ After Tea Party Necessity - Significant Points: Sanji as chef, Luffy vs. Katakuri, Pedro sacrifice 00:37:07 ⟾ Criticisms - Oda’s Ambition, clear/concise vision 00:37:47 ⟾ Re-read vs. Weekly Read - pacing issues 00:38:04 ⟾ Overall 00:38:17 ⟾ [Promo]
@river_snow
@river_snow 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that big mom has so many kids and from different husbands proves "no" was never an answer to her.. she got exactly what she wanted her whole life.
@ChillstoneBlakeBlast
@ChillstoneBlakeBlast 11 ай бұрын
Infinite Food from Streusen and Infinite Boy toys of her choosing, along with an overpowered body. Big mom had it all.
@sawwucegawd1ForGucciManeFans
@sawwucegawd1ForGucciManeFans 6 жыл бұрын
This seriously is the best one piece YT channel out there. Finally someone who is able to properly analysis OP and not just take everything in face value. Simply amazing. Keep it up
@obviusthemaxim2509
@obviusthemaxim2509 6 жыл бұрын
This is god tier content, you should check out Craftsdwarf One Piece videos
@sawwucegawd1ForGucciManeFans
@sawwucegawd1ForGucciManeFans 6 жыл бұрын
Crystian Corona thanks for the tip 😃
@golork3267
@golork3267 6 жыл бұрын
Try Tekking101. He's a lovable and cringy in the fun way, goofball who also respects One Piece and his fans.
@rezoannur2333
@rezoannur2333 5 жыл бұрын
@@golork3267 Tekking doesn't say anything new about the series. He just makes video versions of One Piece wiki pages.
@golork3267
@golork3267 5 жыл бұрын
@@rezoannur2333 You're really selling Tekking short there. He does make a lot of his own theories and gives his own thoughts and he does entertaining reviews and character analyses. Saying Tekking only does video versions of One Piece Wiki is like saying Chuggaaconroy only does textbook LPs of the games he plays. It just isn't accurate.
@furorteutonicus9045
@furorteutonicus9045 6 жыл бұрын
Calling OP-arcs a "mess" is nothing but buzzword-throwing without backing anything up with arguments and reasons. Those people also called Dressrosa a mess and they will surely continue to do this with every other new arc that has more than 3 subplots going on. Nobody should give a single damn about what they say.
@celia1888
@celia1888 6 жыл бұрын
Furor Teutonicus OP arcs only seem a mess because of the amount of details which, if only read on a weekly basis, seem todrown the main storyline. The truth is, OP is better read once the arcs are finished to understand how not messy it is.
@Kanemakii
@Kanemakii 6 жыл бұрын
Furor Teutonicus I agree 100%. What would your response be to someone who says one piece has been on a decline in quality after the time skip? Basically saying pre time skip>post time skip. I think it’s a very stupid statement but I want to know your take
@celia1888
@celia1888 6 жыл бұрын
@@Kanemakii Pre timeskip was basically the world building, the introduction, so everything was new. Now that Oda's world is built he can use it to develop ecerything he hinted at. What they feel is decline comes from the impression of repetition because of that. There's the high possibility they don't care about deepening the story and characters and the world and just want new, shiny and always stronger things.
@Kanemakii
@Kanemakii 6 жыл бұрын
Célia Collet thank you ill go show this to my friends lmao
@davidbujna8480
@davidbujna8480 6 жыл бұрын
Also, people like to bitch about slower pacing, while ignoring the fact it was always like that. They just rushed through 500+ episodes, caught up at marineford and switched to weekly manga
@riss0is
@riss0is 6 жыл бұрын
First thing's first, albeit being in the Whole Cake Island lovers side of the division, I HAD some issues with the pacing, specially reading the manga week to week (plus the typical Oda breaks). However, after watching this video, I kind of get why the pacing was "slow". It wasn't the pacing that was slow, it was just how dangerous invading a Yonko's territory is! You can't just see, arrive and conquer and leave unscathed. Just like you said about Pedro's sacrifice, the final getaway mission was delayed problem upon problem (Big Mom, Daifuku, Oven, etc.). I think that the word marathon perfectly describes this scenario I'm trying to convey. It was never going to be easy and fast and spotless, getting out of Big Mom's territory. It was always going to be difficult, delayed several times and requiring sacrifices. Again, I HAD issues with it, but not anymore, I think that it's very fitting. And the "slow pace" was very rewarding. Quick note, thank you for expressing my views on why Whole Cake Island was so good: its unpredictability. I've already commented this somewhere but what I most liked about WCI was to not know where we were headed or what would happen next. In almost every arc you know that Luffy will fight the villain and win, in this arc we never knew what was going to happen next and it was exhilarating. Sorry for the long comment but I hope that, like your video, it's worth its length. And thank you for yet another insightful and delightful video. You're easily the best One Piece KZbinr there is right now. Love your indepth analysis.
@devontejefferson6520
@devontejefferson6520 5 жыл бұрын
I never understood the hate for WCI arc it was one of my personal favorite arcs
@Jack-nk1so
@Jack-nk1so 5 жыл бұрын
So many KZbinrs annoyed me so much with their hates towards WCI and ruined my experience with this arc. They kept disappointing me with their dump analysis or reaction. I unsubscribed nearly all the manga reactors or review channel at the end of WCI. I am glad that someone recommend this channel to me. I finally find a KZbinr that understand how phenomenal WCI Arc is. SUBSCRIBE.
@TwilightYonder720
@TwilightYonder720 5 жыл бұрын
good riddance lol even Roger's fake ass was telling people to skip parts of the story and read the wiki so they can catch up to his videos a few months ago
@AHeranam
@AHeranam 4 жыл бұрын
TwilightYonder720 he really doesn’t like WCI and i hate it when some our unappreciated of something that i like, i watch one piece late , im not a manga reader before when i catch up and he was dissing the oden flashback and funny he is only the youtuber doing it, i can say well its his opinion so i just dont watch it but bc of it he really ruin my experience in reading oden flashback, i hate it cause the flashbacks might be long but its important, i felt that him liking hxh more might be the reason of his hate he sometimes compare the one piece in hxh fighting and arcs, he is very vocal that he likes one piece bc of the world building thats the reason when its a hype chapter he likes it when its to much flashback he have distain reaction to it, thats the reason why i like tekking more he is just merely reactor .
@DunklerZebralord
@DunklerZebralord 6 жыл бұрын
FINALLY!!! Just the title alone has me stoked. And 38 min? Lmao imma watch this right now. I waited too long for this. Whole Cake Island is critical underrated and I'll keep saying that.
@RedfurredPikachu
@RedfurredPikachu 6 жыл бұрын
Honestly I think people are being too harsh on new world arcs in general. Fishman Island is not perfect but I still think it's a good one.
@bachelorgoosy9145
@bachelorgoosy9145 5 жыл бұрын
And I'll keep saying that the second part of WCI is one huge clusterfuck.
@SuperBallani
@SuperBallani 6 жыл бұрын
this video is FINALLY here! dude you have no idea since how many days and time i was refreshing youtube for your video. i watch that immediately and come back after.
@All_Powerful_God_Enel
@All_Powerful_God_Enel 6 жыл бұрын
I don't know what I love more now, Whole Cake or your video.
@nemanjastikic1367
@nemanjastikic1367 6 жыл бұрын
Same xD
@abhishekdas3320
@abhishekdas3320 4 жыл бұрын
I rewatched the entirety of Totland Arc last week and I gotta admit this arc was an absolute masterpiece. The creativity is off the charts and there was a tremendous level of tension throughout the course of the arc, especially from the start of the tea party. Luffy's entrance at the tea party is one of a kind. In one moment, he managed to get under Big Mom's skin more than anybody else could possibly have. Luffy may not be as strong as Big Mom right now but he sure gave Big Mom the most headache. What a mad lad!!!! The man sure made his presence felt throughout. Even Katakuri acknowledged Luffy's threat level in that one instant.
@mervynns4475
@mervynns4475 4 жыл бұрын
This is why on average you gain more views than most popular OP KZbinrs. They have empty "theories" and "reviews" filled with nothing but basic anime hype. But your content is the real stuff man, so deep and well thought out.
@redx589
@redx589 6 жыл бұрын
Insightful, Brilliant, Stunning, Wonderful, there aren't enough positive adjectives in the dictionary to describe this. This is the kind of content the OP fanbase should be getting.
@FirezAper46
@FirezAper46 6 жыл бұрын
Just finished the video, and have to say I'm brimming with rejuvenated love for the series. I want Oda to put in everything he has because it's those little moments compiled together which make One Piece unique compared to other series and I love how Oda takes inspiration from so many other series such as Alice in Wonderland(Disney), Godfather, Game of Thrones, Power Rangers and Godzilla as in this one arc and adds his own twist to it, such a genius of a writer! The theme of deception and who you are works really well as well This arc only acts to branch out to many futute plotpoints and I cant wait to see how Oda links it, one being how Gerth is part of the Grand Fleet so the meeting between Gerth and Big Mom is going to involve the SHs, amazing planning
@famingo4363
@famingo4363 6 жыл бұрын
I think you missed one major point. WCI has made Naval warfare look quite good, and Carrot and Jinbe are the MVPs of the naval warfare strategies. Previously, sea battles consisted of no more than cannonballs just missing the targets, but this arc has redefined it. One Piece is in a world of pirates after all
@arksine
@arksine 9 ай бұрын
Re reading this arc was so much fun! Big Mom is my favourite Yonko for how strong she is and how interesting her powers are.
@celia1888
@celia1888 6 жыл бұрын
The Pacing Issues only exist if you read chapter by chapter. The thing is, the story is already pretty much written in Oda's mind, so it exists as a whole and while he does try to pace it so it can work on a chapter by chapter basis, it's not the best way to read the story (it is however the best way to take notice of details that will later become important). It's been pretty obvious since Alabasta....
@MissSeaShell
@MissSeaShell Жыл бұрын
It's crazy to me that this comment was left 5 years ago. WCI does not feel that long ago!! Reading or watching the anime, it's definitely better to binge several chapters at a time. I've been watching the anime for like 17 years now (I only choose not to read the manga because I started with the anime and don't want to get ahead of it, but I'll read it someday) and many times over the years I stopped watching for weeks at a time, just so I could have a nice long binge. Reading the whole story after the anime is finished is going to be epic!! I'm currently taking a break with the anime, not exactly by choice though - my son is in basic training until Dec and I promised not to watch any without him - but it's going to be great to have like 20 eps to watch when he gets back. I'm gonna make a feast and then we'll do 8 hours straight, it'll be awesome.
@SoumilSahu
@SoumilSahu 6 жыл бұрын
Do this people: Sit down. Grab some coffee. Read the entire arc in one go. Trust me its worth it
@nikoforsyth514
@nikoforsyth514 5 жыл бұрын
Soumil Sahu what was chapter 1 of whole cake again?
@RadioKnive
@RadioKnive 5 жыл бұрын
@@nikoforsyth514 825
@madscientist14
@madscientist14 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah it was kinda hard following the story when you have to wait a week to over half a month of update
@arnold9083
@arnold9083 5 жыл бұрын
just did and was an epic read
@milkncookie
@milkncookie 5 жыл бұрын
CHALLENGE ACCEPTED!! *Goes to Starbucks* How many cups of coffee would you like sir? Me:Yes, *chapter 1:Romance Dawn* "here is a small seaport."
@eslamanwar1171
@eslamanwar1171 6 жыл бұрын
iam pretty sure the hype for wano destroyed this arc + hype for a sanji fight but overall it was good people selfish desires destroyed their expectations of this arc
@nihili4196
@nihili4196 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest it was a bad move on Oda's part to hype up Wano while being barely in the middle of WCI.
@95Everan
@95Everan 3 жыл бұрын
If Sanji got Atleast ONE good fight I would like the arc like you guys but sorry . I hated it . Top ten worst arcs
@Urmywonderwall07
@Urmywonderwall07 3 жыл бұрын
@@95Everan did you at least the the plot
@لاإلهإلاالله-ر8ع
@لاإلهإلاالله-ر8ع 3 жыл бұрын
@@95Everan you hate a whole arc just because a character didn’t get a fight? Bruh dude
@95Everan
@95Everan 3 жыл бұрын
@@لاإلهإلاالله-ر8ع yeah the whole thing was boring to. All the political chapters was lame. For the Wntire arc there was only ONE reveal (Sanji’s family)
@tigervalley62
@tigervalley62 5 жыл бұрын
Legit, it was an amazing arc. I never really liked Sanji, never thought much about him. Going into Whole Cake island and seeing where he is coming from and how he suffered with Germa and the pudding situation got to me. It really did. My favourite scenes was the Luffy VS Sanji moment and him realising Puddings true nature. Those were so good, especially in the anime, they knocked those two out of the park. Sanji has very quickly for me turned from being a character I never used to care much about, to one of the most respected members on the crew. That's excluding the Katakuri VS Luffy fight, the wedding, Brook VS Big mom fight, the wedding scene, the bege alliance. Those were so good. I loved this arc, but I would be lying if I said it was the best arc, it clearly is not. Like it had it's pacing issues for one, and the big mom chase screaming wedding cake all the time got to my nerves, but yeah excluding stuff like that, well done Oda👍👍👍
@crusaderking2257
@crusaderking2257 2 жыл бұрын
WEDDINGUU CAKKEEHHH
@webpaygrowearn8739
@webpaygrowearn8739 2 жыл бұрын
@@crusaderking2257 simpee modeee
@Abu.H.
@Abu.H. 6 жыл бұрын
I wish Toei tried to put as much life into One Piece as Oda puts into the manga
@LPXvxid
@LPXvxid 3 жыл бұрын
Your wish has come true....toei even surpasses Oda at times in wano
@omarsabir1210
@omarsabir1210 3 жыл бұрын
@@LPXvxid the pacing is still shit though
@ThirtyfourEC
@ThirtyfourEC 3 жыл бұрын
@@omarsabir1210 watch one pace
@waynicliz
@waynicliz 2 жыл бұрын
@@LPXvxid they have not even surpassed oda they ruined the pacing if making the fights look like dbz is surpassing oda than damn
@Mobliz
@Mobliz 2 жыл бұрын
WCI was amazing in the anime.
@ipsumquaerere6927
@ipsumquaerere6927 6 жыл бұрын
That video was definitly worth waiting for! Are you planning on making more arc analyses (e.g. The East Blue intoductionary arc were the villain mirrors the next strawhat e.g. Usopp/Kuro and lies or Sanji/Krieg and selflessness/selfishness) because I would love to see more of thouse kind of videos as well revisiting the beginings. Definitly the best video yet on this channal!
@sigma2503
@sigma2503 6 жыл бұрын
Damn didn't even realize that!
@patrikrathousky5791
@patrikrathousky5791 6 жыл бұрын
Oh yes please!
@TwilightYonder720
@TwilightYonder720 6 жыл бұрын
it would be interesting if he did it backwards, like next would be Zou, then Dressrosa/Ph then Fishman and so on
@ipsumquaerere6927
@ipsumquaerere6927 6 жыл бұрын
TwilightYonder720 that would be intresting for sure but the earlier arcs are shorter and thus easier and faster to cover.
@mistersureshot1749
@mistersureshot1749 6 жыл бұрын
I think the Big thing about this arc in all honestly: it goes back to the central theme of choosing your family - Chiffon chose Capone over Big Mom - Sanji chose the Strawhats over the Vinsmokes - We even get the corruption of blood ties and how it (kind of) psychologically affects the children (the Vinsmoke boys, Katakuri and Pudding). So I'm not too sure if people (at least KZbin channels) consider Whole Cake terrible. In terms of the timeskip I put it at Top 2 right behind Zou. If people don't like this arc, then its fine of their part, but to me This Arc is the reason we read One Piece because it enhances one the central themes of the Series, Dressrosa didn't really have that. I think this arc for the sake of having lets say more mystery to the series isn't there compared to Zou, and I'll say that I liked the arc for what it was even if I did have some issues with, but nothings perfect, This arc just goes to Oda's creative writing, so I think this arc was great in that respect.
@MrMorj
@MrMorj 6 жыл бұрын
I definitely agree that's a big theme of the arc, but I personally disagree that it's the "main" theme of the arc. I think there's a lot to Whole Cake Island, and I actually cut the section where I wanted to talk about the theme of family because another youtuber "craftsdwarf" already covered the topic pretty thoroughly.
@mistersureshot1749
@mistersureshot1749 6 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say Main theme of the arc, but it enhances one of the Central Themes of the entire seires as whole. I think this is the only Arc after the timeskip that goes back to that Central theme ever since the Luffy, Ace and Sabo flashback. I know "Craftsdwarf" made that video, however I've been on TV tropes alot to come to this realization before hand. I haven't finish the video so if it talks about the "main theme" please let me know what it is, just would like to know. I've a feeling a know what it is.
@SuperBallani
@SuperBallani 6 жыл бұрын
Dressrosa definitely had that aspect too dude, Rebecca chosing Kyros at the end even though he wanted to leave because he tought his hands were too bloody for her. Bellamy still choosing Doflamingo even after what he did, and more generally all the relation in the Donquixotte family.. no man Dressrosa covered really this theme too.
@roronoaengkus6631
@roronoaengkus6631 6 жыл бұрын
MisterSureShot as far as i know, morj did the review of chapter 897 that has touched that family aspect when he stated about the battle of will. And that review came before craftdwarfs uploaded the video..
@mistersureshot1749
@mistersureshot1749 6 жыл бұрын
too certain extent tho, because Lao G called Baby 5 expendable, but some reason there were something about Whole Cake that did it somewhat differently. Maybe because Doffy's dad Homing was never corrupt unlike Big Mom and Judge.
@mohamedelsofy414
@mohamedelsofy414 6 жыл бұрын
WOW personally I love hci arc so mush it's in my favorite top 2 but watching this review is soo satisfying ..alot of respect to you man ur one of the best in the community keep it morj 👌👌
@stonefree7973
@stonefree7973 6 жыл бұрын
We need more KZbinrs like you who analyze the storyline and focus on its environment and themes, rather than idiots who focus on power levels and "OMG LUFFY WILL GET GeAr FiFtH"
@smartsport
@smartsport 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I finally understand Luffy vs Katakuri. I've been confused why Luffy even won, since he never even had the upper hand and even after his new form he was still losing, and he never even got that much better at observation haki. Your explanation that Luffy won the battle of wills put everything into perspective. The battle was just Luffy taking hits and getting up over and over again because it was a battle of attrition: seeing who would give first. And because Katakuri grew to respect Luffy and questioned his resolve, he gave. Just, thanks. That's so beautiful.
@noodless8105
@noodless8105 6 жыл бұрын
The Chad Analysis vs the Virgin reviewers in the comunity! In all seriousness tho this was a great video that should be seen by everybody in the comunity
@bachelorgoosy9145
@bachelorgoosy9145 5 жыл бұрын
Tlaloc This analysis is full of selective bias. He says the arc is underrated but doesn't adress some valid criticism (probably because he doesn't have a counterpoint to them).
@mwoakill09
@mwoakill09 5 жыл бұрын
@@bachelorgoosy9145 name a few. im quite curious myself. i thinks its alright.
@bachelorgoosy9145
@bachelorgoosy9145 5 жыл бұрын
Mwoakill09 Let's see, Brûlee and Flambe were horrible. Two characters reduced to plot devices used when it fits for the SHs/Luffy. Other characters that had a promising start just kinda were reduced to one or two character traits (Pudding, Big Mom). The Big Mom Pirates showcased a level of incompetence that makes me question their status in the world. Then, of course, Big Mom chasing the Sunny for half the arc was straight one of the worst things I've read in One Piece, it just felt meh. Oda could've ended WCI soon after the Whole Cake Chateu fell, and it would've been much better imo.
@sunny5203012
@sunny5203012 5 жыл бұрын
@@bachelorgoosy9145 while i do agree with you to a certain extent, i think the main point of this video was to highlight the strength of this arc and state why it differs from the other arcs, hence the selective bias. I think one of the major reasons why people were dissatisfied with the potrayal of big mom pirates is the fact that each and every yonko and their crews has been hyped throughout the series and put on a pedestal. When they fail to conform to the expectations people have of them its a bit underwhelming. How and why the yonkos will fall(if they even will) will continue to be a point of contention among people who follow the series. Though i do believe the arc could have been shortened.
@redx589
@redx589 5 жыл бұрын
@@bachelorgoosy9145 Thats not even a real criticism dude. Thats an opinion. Your comment on plot devices just tells me you don't know anything about storytelling. The Big Mom Pirates weren't "incompetent" they just underestimated their opponents. Craftsdwarf already explained what caused the Big Mom Pirates to fail in his Beyond Blood video. Your last point about the chase scene once again, isn't a criticism. You're just saying "it sucked". Which isn't an argument at all. Morj's video isn't selective bias. It's an analysis of the actual story. Clearly explaining what the narrative was trying to convey via it's themes and arcs of various characters.
@milesclayborne
@milesclayborne 6 жыл бұрын
why Mr Morj is the most underrated youtube channel. seriously, man your content needs to be seen by those cry babies on the subreddit
@azuresaiyan9005
@azuresaiyan9005 6 жыл бұрын
You know, I've grown tired of all this degradation of any dissenting opinion. You aren't enriching discussions by generalizing everyone who feels negative as "crybabies". You're just adding to the toxicity. And this isn't just a OP community problem, but a problem in a lot of pop culture communities.
@626ultimate
@626ultimate 6 жыл бұрын
i know man all the big youtubers shitting on the arc and calling ppl who like wci apologist i only watch like 2 or 3 op youtubers
@mistersureshot1749
@mistersureshot1749 6 жыл бұрын
Who's shitting on it? As far as I'm concern alot people enjoyed the arc, but there were some parts after the fall of the cake that didn't sit well for them.
@SuperBallani
@SuperBallani 6 жыл бұрын
yes people not just because Dustan reacts' negativity has a bit spread into some other youtuber for this arc you can say that this arc is shitted on, there is more people that talks bad about WCI than other arcs, but basically it is exactly the same for Jaya/Skypiea in pre-timeskip, it was an arc different. And there is way more people loving this arc than the opposite, a lot of people talked bad about Dressrosa too because of the pacing of the second half.
@mistersureshot1749
@mistersureshot1749 6 жыл бұрын
Even if some KZbinrs are shitting on it, Alot of people still like the Arc. Rogersbase had issues with it after the fall of The Cake, but I think ovearll he liked the Arc and was still great . I feel like sometimes people just can't take critistim too well and whenever someone says there something they have ill feelings on, people in the community attack.
@roronoaengkus6631
@roronoaengkus6631 6 жыл бұрын
Wow. Just wow. Every aspect was covered well in this video.. Another great video from you. The best whole cake island analyse and criticism..
@matthewquijano2696
@matthewquijano2696 4 жыл бұрын
In my opinion Pound's death was insanely overlooked by the community, when I saw him die it saddened my that he only wanted to see his daughters, but was only able to see 1. Still he died happily knowing one of his daughters was happily married with a son.
@honeycrisp808
@honeycrisp808 2 жыл бұрын
"died" lol...
@dannyfenton8826
@dannyfenton8826 2 жыл бұрын
Welp...
@jinsangdre591
@jinsangdre591 4 жыл бұрын
I absolutely loved this arc. The characters’ backstories, the music, the fights, the goal, all the new characters overall, and how they were able to complete their goal was really good in ny opinion.
@lucasfmhomem
@lucasfmhomem 6 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna start the video now, but I'm not sure about the title, because WCI is a very beloved arc for MANY fans, arguably the majority, even if most youtubers are shitting on it.
@MrMorj
@MrMorj 6 жыл бұрын
I guess the negative minority feels very "loud". I saw most reviewers did not like the arc, so the title is mostly in response to what youtubers have been saying. I'll think about changing it though, since you're right that at least on other forums I've been to it seems like a lot of people really loved it
@kingkaidou2444
@kingkaidou2444 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think the title should be a little more neutral.
@furorteutonicus9045
@furorteutonicus9045 6 жыл бұрын
Lucas Homem Exactly what I wanted to post until I saw your comment. Thanks.
@RedfurredPikachu
@RedfurredPikachu 6 жыл бұрын
Fornever world, and chibi are pretty fair in their reviews and both of them enjoyed the arc so I'd watch them.
@furorteutonicus9045
@furorteutonicus9045 6 жыл бұрын
Are you still planning to change the title of this video? I don't know but I get a bit triggered everytime I read it since it implies that a majority hates it which is just not true. ^^"
@YightLagami
@YightLagami 6 жыл бұрын
I wasn't planning to watch the whole video right away but after a few minutes, I was already hooked
@scott9052
@scott9052 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, loved the part about showing how this is time where Luffy has to prove that he is going to become the King of the Pirates. With the arc being so long I forgot alot of the overall themes of WCI and this video really helped me put it all in perspective. Thanks :)
@brainer4194
@brainer4194 6 жыл бұрын
I honestly have no idea how people can deny Whole Cake as the best post-timeskip arc, the pacing issues are literally nothing compared to the painful Dressrosa arc.
@ИннаВысоцкая-п4м
@ИннаВысоцкая-п4м 2 жыл бұрын
Rewatch dressrosa nowadays it is good, an current anime cuz it is aired and u can binge, but yeah with Wci there is no problems actually
@Camazotzer
@Camazotzer 2 жыл бұрын
4 years later Whole Cake Island is still my favourite arc. Idc about the Wano hype I loved how different this arc was a refresher op really needed at the time imo.
@Sera-gr1ij
@Sera-gr1ij 6 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU THANK YOU THAAAAANK YOOOUU. I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR A VIDEO ON THIS. EVERYONE HATES ON WCI JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE IMPATIENT FOR WANO! look, all of the fans are hyped up for wano but there's a route to all things.....conflicts have to be solved and things have to be patched up there's character development and the SHs have to ease into the whole 'defeating a Yonko' goal. WCI is like a wake up call or like a scale that shows justs how strong a Yonko is compared to maybe Doffy a warlord or other major villains they had to face. I wish more people would watch this and change their negative views on WCI or even just admit it doesn't suck as much as they thought.
@Avatarbee
@Avatarbee 6 жыл бұрын
The Whole Cake Island also is about family. The big mom pirates are essentially a disfucntional family. But I guess that much was obvious.
@Bleabot
@Bleabot 6 жыл бұрын
I'm really surprised to see that people had a problem with the climax of this arc. Granted it did take a while to resolve (and it never actually properly resolved for several characters), but I really liked it. I LOVED that it didn't end with the destruction of the plateau; just when we thought they were escaping, all hell broke loose and they were hanging on to their lives on a chapter-to-chapter basis which made it really thrilling to read every week even if the actual plot wasn't moving that quickly. I loved that Big Mom somehow became more and more terrifying with each passing page over the course of like 15 straight chapters, which is impressive considering how she was already pretty monstrous to begin with. I loved that whole climax. I don't think subverting expectations just for the sake of being surprising can be considered good storytelling on its own, but it worked really well here since it underscored Luffy's main conflict: it was a fight to prove to the world that he was serious, that he could live up to the straw hat that he was wearing. (But that's just kind of repeating what you said in the video.) And even with that said, I'm glad they barely survived this encounter because it established that there's a lot of growth left for these characters. They have a long way to go still. Man, I loved this arc. (Except that Chopper didn't really do much. Come on, Oda. Give Chopper his moment to shine.)
@edgarwills3600
@edgarwills3600 5 жыл бұрын
Bleabot the anime did in a filler when he tanked skinny big moms attack
@Dkmo94
@Dkmo94 5 жыл бұрын
this explains so much, there are so many themes I clearly missed. I also love how Pound was only recognized by his grandson
@PetarBladeStrok
@PetarBladeStrok 4 жыл бұрын
Whole Cake Island is easily one of my favorite arcs. A clean 10/10.
@McDudes
@McDudes 6 жыл бұрын
Agree! It get way to much hate for no reason
@juckoosaurus
@juckoosaurus 6 жыл бұрын
It's the post timeskip version of Skypea people love it or people hate it
@McDudes
@McDudes 6 жыл бұрын
LeGeNd i dissagree about your first point about Sanji. All Oda and his editor said was that it was suppose to be the year of Sanji. Which it was, he got a lot of charactization and development and the center conflicts of the arc revolved around him. But yes fighting wise he got over shadowed but defenitelly not story and character wise. Which is what one piece is about. One Piece is more of an adventure series than a battle manga. Also in my opinion Big Mom isnt suppose to ve likable at all. I mean she's a psycho eho eats people when she looses controll. But I agree with most of the rest that you said. The chase sure was pretty dumb and draged out. And the promises of the editors did effect our enjoyment because of giving us faulty expectations. But if we go back and read the arc without those editora comments it wouldn't bitter us at all and therefore it doesn't take away anything from the arc. I also believe that the chase sequence would feel better phased in this case as well because we don't need to wait week after weeks to continue it.
@RR-kl4qy
@RR-kl4qy 6 жыл бұрын
i never watch one piece for battles.....almost nobody gets into one piece for the battles....almost all shounen anime/manga are better than one piece when it comes to fights. Also sanji did not go through much development character wise....the only 2 developments we all saw were 1. sanji not being biased towards pudding's 3rd eye. - this is character development 2. sanji is shown to have an abusive relationship in the past with his family. - this is character development the others were already there like 1. sanji wants to sacrifice himself to save the crew ?? - same old 2. sanji wants to save his family ?? - he got ready to save kiemon in punk hazard risking nami's body....same old 3. sanji bakes the best cake ever ?? - same old 4. sanji has confidence in luffy ?? - same old. in addition to that sanji actually went through a bad phase character wise....he lost confidence in his captain for a while and luffy had to regain his trust...Its almost as if sanji never learnt anything from zoro during thriller-bark. Also no antagonist is supposed to be likeable as in inspirational....we should love to hate the character.... look at doffy , katakuri , lucci , kaku , akainu , blackbeard , shielew, buggy , crocodile ,daz bones, arlong etc... WE LOVE THEM now look at wapol , hody , vander deckhan , spandam , big mom....MEH
@RR-kl4qy
@RR-kl4qy 6 жыл бұрын
on the 2nd read thru or the 10th...the chase sequence dilutes a bit...other than that..everything stays the same.
@RR-kl4qy
@RR-kl4qy 6 жыл бұрын
sanji did loose confidence in luffy.....sanji should have known that there is no way on gods green earth that luffy would ever let him go that easily...he saw it first hand when luffy asked usop to burn the flag. sanji should have known that luffy would definitely try stir shit up. although i do understand capone forced sanji's hand in a way.
@c4n940
@c4n940 6 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU ! I'm screaming all of this since December xD ! There is so much to say about this arc (On the theme of "Luffy the hero of truth" for exemple or on the technicity of the fight, the magical road on chapter 888 .... or from a storytelling standpoint (the magic of set-up and pay-off)) its mindblowing ! We could talk for hours about this ! This arc might not be liked so much for now (by the loud minority lol) - but in this end, it will be remembered as one of the greatest arc not only in One Piece, but in the history of Nekketsus ! Great video !
@sigma2503
@sigma2503 6 жыл бұрын
Shared this video on as many platforms as i could, just like i do with all of your videos. Keep up the great work and i'll keep placing my bets on you.
@MrMorj
@MrMorj 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I really appreciate it!
@sunwukong5518
@sunwukong5518 11 ай бұрын
Best post timeskip arc, only really competitor is Egghead so far. It really is a breath of fresh air because it is not another Alabasta remake
@obvious_humor
@obvious_humor 6 жыл бұрын
Man, people always hate on the pacing while the chapters are coming out every week or so, but going back and rereading the entire arc is always way better.
@yeonsung30ryeo
@yeonsung30ryeo 6 жыл бұрын
I guess it's time for a re-read. This video is indeed an eye opener. The arc was fine for me but I did think the pacing could do better. Like you said though, it's probably because of they way we read it. It felt sooooo long because of the weekly wait but in OP timeline, it was but a few days. Thank you for this. You gained yourself a new sub.
@potentialPizza8
@potentialPizza8 6 жыл бұрын
Took me a while to get through of all of it, but man, this was a *fantastic* analysis. Your videos are fantastic for how they raise points I didn't even realize while reading the story, yet make so much sense. The characterization of Katakuri and Pudding, just how tragic Pedro and Pound's arcs were, the parallels between Luffy and Big Mom and how they struggled with hunger, and so much more. Fantastic job. The best reviews and analyses are ones that don't just make various criticisms or praises, but feel like they give a comprehensive look at the identity of an arc. You've succeeded. Whole Cake Island is my second favorite arc, personally, and you do a great job of laying out what makes it work so well. For a bit of constructive criticism that I'm sure you're already aware of, I think your video-making style would ultimately be better if you branched out into different editing techniques beyond just Ken Burns zooms of manga pages. It's acceptable in your short videos, but at this length it definitely feels a little constrained. Super Eyepatch Wolf's videos on manga might be a good place to take inspiration from in how he edits them. Another idea is that, although you focus on the manga (rightfully), using clips from the anime is just a lot easier to work with to fill time visually.
@albinjohnsson2511
@albinjohnsson2511 6 жыл бұрын
You're amazing! Changed my perspective on the arc. Thank you!
@Ampaomike
@Ampaomike 6 жыл бұрын
The Channel is criminally Underrated. ...you should deserve more.
@onepiecegotmeinlove691
@onepiecegotmeinlove691 Жыл бұрын
Omg. This was literally the video that started it all. Me randomly clicked this video 5 years ago and decided to start One Piece (not knowing or caring how long it was) and now here i am. All caught up. Have forced all my family to watch it and a couple caught up too! My whole ass username and really my live has changed
@MrNinjaStar
@MrNinjaStar 6 жыл бұрын
You are one great content creator.
@htamer10900
@htamer10900 6 жыл бұрын
Totally worth the wait, loved every minute of it! It's a nearly 40 minute video jam packed full of awesome info and I look forward to the next video you upload! Keep up the great work!
@lavernec464
@lavernec464 6 жыл бұрын
WCI was an 8/10 for me, after watching your review and re-reading the arc I liked it even more, while finding some more flaws(a few of them are nitpicky). Overall im giving WCI an 8.7/10 highlighting the nuances that I missed as well as re-reading further micro character progression throughout the arc(especially for luffy). i'm loving it even more; well done. subscribed.
@f34rall2
@f34rall2 Жыл бұрын
That's my experience it ages like fine wine every time you re read you notice and appreciate something new the pacing is a lot better than week to week was back in the day And there's lot of subtle details in this arc
@thatguygex5872
@thatguygex5872 3 жыл бұрын
Moji: pound is the only character that has truly died in one piece Oda: see, I pulled a little sneaky on ya
@Roge9
@Roge9 2 жыл бұрын
Luffy vs Katakuri is a SSS tier fight. I honestly enjoyed this arc a lot more after re-reading it. I find that I appreciate arcs much more if I don't digest them 1 chapter per week.
@dantecrottogini529
@dantecrottogini529 6 жыл бұрын
Luffy being acknowledged as a yonko made this arc so satisfying
@koopakape
@koopakape 6 жыл бұрын
This is probably always gonna be the _best_ overview/recap of this arc and why it's so much better in so many ways than some fans give it credit for being. It only has 2k views now, but I hope people keep coming back to it and linking it around the community for years to come.
@Jphthe2
@Jphthe2 6 жыл бұрын
yo mr morj I'm really glad you made this video it was super good
@vcamv2354
@vcamv2354 4 жыл бұрын
This video here my friend is an inspiration for me. I was completely out of One Piece channels cause majoriry of them are just bullshit theories or stupid predictions, but you truly care about the series and it's meanings, nuances, tone and themes. I started my own channel here in Brasil to talk about anime, manga and movies and the way you approach the series and your analisys inspired me to always look again and really understand what I'm watching and reading before putting up a video. I gotta say, I'm thankfull for you and your channel existing and as a man who spent the last week slowly reading Whole Cake down to it's minor details just to make a video about Katakuri's characther development, I agree with every single word you spoke here. After my second reading of Whole Cake, with more attention, Big Mom became one of my favorite villains and I got so sad about Pudding and the way everyone's manipulated by Big Mom, Whole Cake arc is ome of the masterpieces of One Piece and you gave me a new view about it. Thank you man, you're my inspiration!
@TheLiam14141
@TheLiam14141 5 жыл бұрын
Whole Cake proves to be a reward to not only the reader, but the writer. Oda built this world to a point where all the craziness seems natural
@mugichan172
@mugichan172 6 жыл бұрын
Great video and everything you said hit the mark. Keep going man I hope you get more subs. You and Redforcepodcast are what I actually call reviewers. A rare breed on this website since you actually take the time to carefully understand the objectives and execution of every scene. And not just fly of the handle at the first read and engage in cancer-spreading shouting matches on streams. I'm so glad I found this channel because One Piece has no legitimate reviewers on youtube and it lead to me not watching One Piece content for years. I was just trying to talk to someone about how Oda managed to pack the Mafia motif, Disney motif, Wedding motif and Power Ranger/Germa motif in one arc and transition between them seamlessly without the tone getting messy. And he said that he never thought about that since most discussions he sees on this arc are about power scaling LOL One more thing, I think you're overestimating the "hate" that this arc got. I haven't watched other reviewers on here, but I'm sure as usual they're panning every little detail that doesn't go as they imagined at a superficial level. But most FANS I've discussed with on different outlets enjoyed the arc. I even listened the One Piece Podcast review of this arc and most of them praised the same aspects you outlined in the video.
@kingkaidou2444
@kingkaidou2444 6 жыл бұрын
You might wanna check out Craftsdwarf too.
@mugichan172
@mugichan172 6 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the suggestion. I'll check him out.
@Rainstorm_100
@Rainstorm_100 6 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best one piece videos I've ever seen! Amazing! I'd say whole cake is the best ark after the time skip so far, but is much worse when read week to week
@july8studio
@july8studio 6 жыл бұрын
why anyone would even think its not good baffles me. character building to the max on all fronts. Other than Chopper, almost everyone gets their own shine... Plus they made Capone Bege into a character I love! Prior to, especially during the Shabody arc, I thought he was the least interesting supernova even below Killer... now he's just great. FATHER!!!!
@furorteutonicus9045
@furorteutonicus9045 6 жыл бұрын
Chopper also did something very important. He captured Brulee and so with using the mirror world they were able to rescue Brook and it helped in the plan to assassinate Big Mom. It was nothing spectacular but he also contributed something.
@maralitangdukha3179
@maralitangdukha3179 5 жыл бұрын
Wholecake Island arc is my Most Favorite Arc . This where we Get the Picture how powerful a Yonko is and Surviving an Encounter with them can be Considered a Miracle . Another thing is ,this is where we saw the Depths of Sanji's Character and background. The Underground World was also Introduced , It shows us that the One Piece World does not only about Pirates , Marines and Revolutionaries but a Bunch of Other Sinister Organization . A Militaristic Nation , Underground Dealers, a Mafia Syndiacate and a News Manipulating Mogul Duck . It also makes a twist on traditional tale of Prince saving am Princess or an an Entire Town . In this story , the Prince the one who needs savings and from a Pirate.
@gnarrcan108
@gnarrcan108 3 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you talked about the artwork. I feel like all you analyst guys spend most of your time talking about writing and plot and character development and completely gloss over the fact that Odas art is super unique and visually stunning you never really hear about the art in these types of videos even though manga is a visual medium
@FirezAper46
@FirezAper46 6 жыл бұрын
GOAT video dude, Worth the Wait!
@blakedavis2447
@blakedavis2447 4 жыл бұрын
Chopper will defeat big mom in the final arc when he diagnoses her with diabetes
@MrTojans
@MrTojans 6 жыл бұрын
Wow this video showed me, that I really need to reread this arc or One Piece as a whole. While reading this arc weekly, many character arcs didn't leave much of an impression on me because I have had already forgotten about some details but just from your retelling of these events, the emotional weight of e.g. Puddings character development really hit me. Goes to show that, when reading weekly, the story loses some of it's strenghts, compared to continuous reading. On the other hand reading One Piece over such a long span of time makes the foreshadowing a lot more powerful, as you are left alone with your thoughts for longer, creating a bigger surprise when the foreshadowed mysteries and overarching themes are finally resolved.
@jaideepdesai5321
@jaideepdesai5321 6 жыл бұрын
My love for One Piece is already off the charts but then videos like yours take it to the extreme level. Yet again, beautifully put together work.
@erickluviano981
@erickluviano981 Жыл бұрын
People hate this arc? It’s literally the ennies lobby arc of the new world Sanji for once isn’t just a simp but has actual backstory to him, luffy fights a badass villain you can’t help but like, Brook outsmarts big mom. SNAKE MAN…so many amazing moments in this arc. Dressrosa was like 40 episodes of the same flashback of soldier san and Rebecca lol
@albinjohnsson2511
@albinjohnsson2511 6 жыл бұрын
You should make more in-depth analyzes! Starting from the beginning!
@SuperBallani
@SuperBallani 6 жыл бұрын
agree with that, now i'm craving to have his analysis of all the arcs of One Piece, or at least the long/important one.
@gring8879
@gring8879 6 жыл бұрын
That's one of the best analysis video I have ever seen. You covered absolutely everything and showed true greatness of Oda's work. Great job man!
@kennethvilla5359
@kennethvilla5359 4 жыл бұрын
aww mayn i never realized that beautiful irony of the "mirror match taking place in the mirror world" oda is a agenius and ive been waiting for guys like morj to connect the dots with these well thought out analysis
@kennethvilla5359
@kennethvilla5359 4 жыл бұрын
ill be a patreon starting today. these are the kind of content i wished more people focused on
@DJMilez
@DJMilez 4 жыл бұрын
Dude this video is amazing! Great job! The parallels between Katakuri and Luffy mirroring one another in the mirror world blew me away. Not sure how I completely missed that watching it the first time around.
@lucasfmhomem
@lucasfmhomem 6 жыл бұрын
Great review! I can only imagine the amount of work required to edit all of this, so congratulations! As an advice, I think you could have broken down this review in more well defined topics with some light/simple transitions instead of this stream of thoughts. Reading this arc weekly was extremely rewarding to me by the sheer quality of many individual chapters, the best characterization since who knows when, great themes, one amazing fight and some of the most surprising developments/events in this series (have we ever read something quite like the highlights of this arc before?), most of it highly emotional and personal to the main protagonists. Maybe I'm just too zen and chill to seat back and enjoy the moment. Meanwhile, I guess some readers need something less elusive/unpredictable to sustain their hype till the ending, because it's easier to keep up when you know things will finish in that typical fashion that you already know you like instead of an unknown pay off. When people are not invested, everything start to look too slow for a weekly reading and then a negative bias is born... although you can stick a 1,5 billion bounty to it at the end of the day and people will get the goosebumps. Another thing I appreciate about this arc is structure. Despite having many subplots, Oda organized them successively instead of simultaneously, so the flow was really improved compared to Dressrosa. The arc can be divided in four days and each one of them was focused in only 2 or 3 subjects and then we moved on to the next thing as the day finished. Regarding the characters' deaths, I think they didn't have a bigger impact on the reader because people couldn't believe in them because of Oda's past fake outs, so he's reaping what he sow. Everybody was to skeptical to appreciate those deaths, although I guess Oda could have made those deaths less abrupt to really build up the emotional punch, which was lacking.
@phenomenonnarutokun
@phenomenonnarutokun 5 жыл бұрын
When you list the different genres in the arc at 0:43 it just makes me realize no other manga could this shit off so smoothly
@jamalnelson2793
@jamalnelson2793 6 жыл бұрын
Also. I agree that WCI does blend genres uniquely. But many Op arcs do that. That's one of the great part of this series is genre blending I think what WCI does good is combining genres u won't see together and making them one huge story
@ruuron6753
@ruuron6753 3 жыл бұрын
This video summarizes exactly why i love this arc and why it's actually one of my favourites, if not my favourite, arc of the entire series
@j.m.3600
@j.m.3600 10 ай бұрын
This is like my favorite KZbin video ever, i watch it all the time. To sleep, and it still engages me after years
@ananimeplace.3808
@ananimeplace.3808 6 жыл бұрын
I HAVE BEEN TELL THE HATERS THIS FOR A WHOLE YEAR NOW
@unavailableChalala
@unavailableChalala 6 жыл бұрын
Good job on the video. I enjoy the longer content
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