Forcing The Enforcer

[@ecksdee6338]

"Hey patrick what am I?" "A spectator?" "No, a cloak and dagger spy!" "What's the difference?"

[@DeletedExpiration]

ba dum ch

[@anirvan1004]

The enforcer should become a sentry buster and not apply the damage reduccion on sentries

[@jeffdaniel772]

nice idea!

[@InternetMonster1]

I think it already does.

[@DinnerForkTongue]

Jonah Kluger No. It only bypasses the Sentry's shield if it's being wrangled.

[@InternetMonster1]

Oh okay, my bad.

[@joanaguayoplanell4912]

I think this "pierce resistances" should be extended to all revolvers, and the sentry buster nich should be given to the Diamondback (pex remove the stored crits and just have it crit for as long as a player-owned sapper is active. This would also indirectly buff the RTR). I wish the Enforcer marked for death for around 0.4 seconds when disguised or when critting, just enough to get another shot, and have the current disguise speed and smoke be a new penalty for the Enforcer, while every other weapon gets no smoke and near-instant disguises. You get the same effective DPS as the on-release Enforcer but if you miss a single hit, you loose all the benefits.

[@Risemonger]

It really is sad that Valve decided that nerfing the Ambassador and the Deadringer more worthwhile then fixing this poor gun. In fact, let this be a petition starter to get all the crappy weapons to have at least some viability in the future. #SaveCrappyWeapons

[@DinnerForkTongue]

They should do like Red Hook and instead of nerfing the good stuff, buff the weak. Either way you're making the field more level.

[@robertbenitez3647]

Risemonger the enforcer doesnt need a buff. Its a basically a direct upgrade because even if you miss the first shot ur other shots will do really close the stock.

[@DinnerForkTongue]

Thank god you ain't a TF2 developer. Overcomplicating shit is never a solution.

[@Chr0n0s38]

DrivanRadosivic Almost none of the stock weapons in game need changed. The only two I would even consider touching would be demo's primary and other primary. If stock is outright weaker than an unlock, then the unlock should be nerfed to be a sidegrade of the stock. The stock weapons are already pretty well balanced across the classes, so any major change to the stock weapons could cause a huge issue in game balance. The only changes I would consider (and I'm still not sure about this) would be to give the demo's grenade launcher 6 shots instead of 4, but then make the stock sticky bomb launcher have a slightly longer arm time. Ideally this change would not make the demo weaker, but just change which weapon the demo prioritizes when spamming.

[@DinnerForkTongue]

DrIvanRadosivic No. Just... no. That's just fucking stupid, son.

[@abdalrhmanmohsen9754]

13:36 WTF? The scout ice statue's mouth moved!!

[@mintrekii]

Abdalrhman Mohsen scout is just one cool dude :p

[@kiracaroso]

That was actually a little unsettling. Like something from a Stephen King book or film.

[@TeleTrenta]

if u didnt know corpses talk! iced or not they talk

[@Sheikmeister69]

if you wait enough the ice effect will despawn and now they're just jelly

[@allconsumingchicken9173]

Minty holy sh t the zombies are coming

[@Drapperbat]

Two times I've seen the enforcer used effectively: I notice it's an excellent "training wheels" revolver, since the slower fire rate makes newer spy players learn to take their revolver shots more carefully so they can land hits Once, a Spy used it to snipe my wrangled sentry gun

[@BulletSponge71436]

You can kill 125HP players with 2 shots. Don't forget it.

[@Drapperbat]

Yes you can theoretically but I've never seen it done

[@BulletSponge71436]

LUL. I love killing snipers on 2Fort with Enforcer with only 2 shots.

[@oben2524]

Drapperbat Do you watch HL games? Its the meta there.

[@Chr0n0s38]

HL and casual are two very different game modes. I know Uncle Dane thinks that weapons balanced in comp are balanced in casual as well, but he's missing a few key details. First the player count. 12v12 and 9v9 are different enough that some weapons lose (or gain) effectiveness. 12v12 is more chaotic, especially since casual has less communication (hence why the YER is more effective). Second, random criticals exist in casual which breaks the balancing on a few weapons. In a game mode with no random criticals, the no random critical stat has no meaning on a weapon. I think this is why the enforcer is meta in HL, since the only negative to it is the reduced fire rate at that point.

[@MrPaladin]

One situation the Enforcer does better than all other guns... you can 2 (body) shot enemies at close range so its good for taking out razorback snipers... but there are other guns that can do that and even the weakest guns can do it in 3 shots at close range (or 4 at usual) and those weak guns have other benefits. I find the enforcer is simply too niche in its skills to warrant taking over the guns that can do more and do it more often...

[@7x976]

MrPaladin nιce vιd мrP 😃

[@josephthegreninja5344]

MrPaladin which one is the best weapon in tf2?

[@Charlieweddle]

The enforcer is like a more reliable ambassador against razorback snipers. Its got a good niche now, to be honest.

[@Oliver-cn7jt]

It’s kinda sad that the enforcer did what the ambi once did (though in comp if the razorback is allowed it can be good for getting snipers down)

[@mihailgeceski4945]

Hey Mr P!

[@TheZombiewill]

13:34 that scout statue just shut his mouth after yelling XD

[@kevingriffith6011]

The enforcer change always felt like valve retooling the weapon into a counter to the razorback... which to be honest we already have two other guns that do that, and even the weakest gun can still get the kill on a sniper in 3 shots. For the "opening gambit" role the rework took this gun to, it doesn't do it very well, even compared to other spy guns. Rather than buffing it's damage (Which it will never have more than the ambassador or diamondback without making those weapons pointless) maybe make it so where you decloak much more quickly while this weapon is drawn, but with a slower weapon switch speed to prevent you from being able to stab out of cloak faster. Get spotted by an engineer while cloaked? Drop cloak and immediately put two in him, you can't do that with any other gun.

[@nabollo]

Maybe the enforcer should simply do more damage to targets with less HP on a disguised shot instead of simple bonus damage. That way it's the opportunist gun and not the opening gambit. Oh, and bring back the Ambassador's range.

[@naquan59]

well it was kinda like that for a long time and people said it was very op.

[@nabollo]

Narros Jefferson no, the enforcer used to have a straight damage boost regardless of what your target's health was. This way it's not a straight up gunslinger and can still be used to pick off weakened opponents from mid to close range. You wouldn't be able to get away with Dr. Enforcicle this way, either.

[@DinnerForkTongue]

BakedBread Ambassador as a mini-sniper war pig again? Thanks but no thanks.

[@nabollo]

Dinner-fork tongue every single class has an effective answer for spy with ambassador. Every. Single. One. There was no problem with that gun, just whiny crybabies who haven't the battlesense to stay out of sightlines, or to know how to doubletap duck while jumping when you're likely at risk. Or if it were so easy, why not out-ambassador the enemy spy?

[@sightseeing7993]

The disguised shot thing I always find stupid.

[@suspicioustree389]

even tho i know its the worst bye far, im a numbers person, and i admire that with the fix to actually pierce resistances like its supposed to, i dont have to think about how much less damage it does against resistances, i see a number and i know my enforcer WILL kill my enemy, its a shining example of consistency and thats why i use it, plus the slower firing speed forces me to improve my aim, helping me with other pistols in the long run

[@MrPaladin]

Good point. With practice it would be consistent. Kind of like me with the letranger

[@DinnerForkTongue]

suspicious tree Good point. Shredding is nothing to roll your eyes at.

[@robertbenitez3647]

suspicious tree its not the worst, i say its an upgrade because the firing speed is very minor if you play with it, you wont find a difference. The amby is far worse

[@CallMeElwis94]

The Enforcer is pretty much at the moment what Big Earner used to be once. By that I mean - not a good choice. I miss the old Enforcer to be honest.

[@Browhy766]

Elwis From Poland it's better than the weapon which now can't be talked about which got hugely nerfed

[@gearhooves5996]

I think it should have maby a 10-15% damage bonus with its resistance piercing mechanic

[@Quyzbuk86]

Used to be? Big Earner is still garbage.

[@Browhy766]

Quyzbuk wouldn't say it's garbage it's actually viable in Highlander comp and casual

[@Browhy766]

Quyzbuk usually after a stab u die in highlander this: 1:makes getting some types of trickstabs after a stab to escape easier because of the speed boost 2:sometimes the speedboost allows you to escape The old big earner wasn't viable at all

[@StickMaster500]

I find the Enforcer a really underused weapon, sure some revolvers can do the same job but better but that extra damage on the first shot can really make a difference as you can two shot 125 health classes which would normally take three shots on top of it piercing through resistances. If they made it so the piercing effect goes through buildings since buildings are resisted by Revolvers, this would make it a good sidegrade to use over the Stock Revolver and other unlocks to make it easier to take out Engineers buildings.

[@mkmasterthreesixfive]

not only razorbacked snipers, but also engineers with their backs firmly in a corner as well. You can 2 shot them before they can get a 2nd swing on their sentry while the revolver's 3rd shot is just a tad too slow.

[@saltyfries680]

I'm sad because I like the short barreled revolver design the enforcer has, but I can't use it, at least not effectively

[@robertbenitez3647]

Salty Fries its not terrible. ill say its a direct upgrade to stock considering its only downgrade is no random crits and 20 percent slower firing speed. what makes it so bad?

[@Chr0n0s38]

Think of the situations where it is useful, and consider what would happen if you brought a different gun. The ambassador can 2-shot 150 HP enemies at that range if you land a head shot, it can even 2-shot a 200 HP player if you have really good aim and timing (and a little bit of luck). The diamondback can do that as long as you have stored crits as well. The extra cloak from the l'etranger can help you get away easier after a kill, or go further behind enemy lines. Stock is generally more reliable, and if you get a random crit will outshine the enforcer as well. The no random criticals is kind of a meme for balancing weapons, but it does have value in casual (but since Valve is trying to push a mode that has no random criticals, shouldn't they rebalance all those weapons? I mean that's one stat that just outright doesn't matter if there are no random criticals on the server), especially since the revolver does get a surprising number of criticals as long as you're getting stabs to keep your damage up. 800 damage is all you need to get max random crit chance (12%), which is pretty easy to get as spy. From there you can expect roughly 1 in every 10 shots will do 120 damage, which pretty much catches up with the enforcer at that point.

[@robertbenitez3647]

Clnr0n05 firstly, diamondback is overpowered, amby takes really good aim, and the enforcer will do more damage than the stock. Enforcer can 2 shot enemies at close range if you land the first shot which isnt that hard. Landing an amby headshot is harder. Look at the enforcer, its basically a straight upgrade. the 20 percent slower firing speed is not. Random crita are useless because you cant rely on them. It just gives you more damage overall, if you land the first shot. If you dont, it doesnt matter because it will have the same damage as stock.

[@Joshualacruz]

"He is the one." Haha, ohh that cracks me up. 😁

[@Chud_Bud_Supreme]

What if the Enforcer did cumulative damage where each successful hit does more damage until three accurate shots does fifty percent more damage or something?

[@HaloJaxed]

Kerplunker balancing a weapon around hacks is never the answer.

[@reidwilliams7747]

Well then just remove sniper.

[@CookieMonstaSport]

You would generally never even get that 3rd shot unless your opponent is so F2P that they think they're on your team.

[@samuellinn]

@@kerplunker360 they would be better off using ambassasdor

[@MonsterPumpkin]

that would be useless dont make stats just to make stats, make them to fill a role

[@pootrizz]

I love the fact that a painted gibus is an instant telling the enemy to back off

[@massiveidiot77]

Its good for making people underestimate you because your using a bad weapon

[@DinnerForkTongue]

Gibusvision already does that with no penalties since it allows you to use stock or other decent wheelguns.

[@Brettkev]

I actually really like the enforcer

[@consumerofbepsi5254]

Its good im pubs because you can catch people off guard by an enforcer spy being able to aim

[@speedbay0]

Thanks for trying different things. Have a good day!

[@fders938]

I love how your alias is "Paid Salt Miner"

[@ofekzuckerman3892]

5:59 Welcome to my special kind of hell

[@Surkk2960]

The only time the Enforcer is useful is on CTF maps where there are stagnant snipers and the occasional friendly... even then the Ambassador is the better option.

[@khan5199]

15:00 *insert spy's theme*

[@MrHerobrineXD_]

It's Good in 1 vs 1 spy "Need a Good Aim" "and some luck"

[@wahyurio2113]

I prefer amby

[@ploughesclues8877]

Is it just me or does it feel like the spy has very few loadout options these days?

[@MrPaladin]

5 ways to do the same thing

[@ramphynunez5370]

ploughes clues yeah, like only 3 viable knives and revolvers

[@Chr0n0s38]

DarkSoul ? only 3 knives? All of the spy's knives are viable now. Some are more reliable than others, but they all work fine. There are only 2 revolvers that are iffy, the amby and the enforcer. All 3 watches work (though the DR has seen better days). Obviously the RTR isn't great in most situations, but really almost all of these weapons can be used together. Pretty much just avoid using the RTR, and don't use the YER and enforcer together (especially if you're using the DR).

[@ploughesclues8877]

Clnr0n05 I do see where you are coming from with how all three watches work, but the dr used to be an upgrade (which was not okay) now instead of being a side grade like it should be, in most situations it just feels like a direct downgrade. Since the update it just feels like valve took a whole play style from the spy and just left him his stock invis or the cad

[@Chr0n0s38]

ploughes clues imo the DR has a bit of an identity crisis right now. It feels like a weapon you would use to infiltrate, but works better for getting away. The problem with it being set up like this is that the spy really needs a way to infiltrate. I agree with not letting ammo boxes refill it, because it was extremely obnoxious to play against, but I don't see why dispensers couldn't fill it up. If the spy is using a dispenser to spam it, it's your fault imo. Either destroy the dispenser if it's on the spy's team, or keep the spy away from your dispenser. The loud decloak and short cloak time also make it a questionable escape tool. You don't get very far away (even with the speed boost) and then make tons of noise when you decloak, attracting more attention. Maybe they could make it a little quieter, or instead of using half the cloak on activation it could use only 1/4 of it. The really weird thing about it is that it feels like it's only worthwhile with 2 weapons now. This is a huge step backwards for spy, since the spy really was the only class that felt like you could pick any item and make it work with almost any other item. DrivanRadosivic Not really. It's just a little too weak. It used to be very strong (better than stock in some ways). Those are uses for the RTR, but not the best uses for it. Use it on mini sentries, or on a large engie nest (3+ engies) just as your team is about to attack. As a gun spy, stock makes more sense since you destroy buildings very quickly that way. Stock sapper does damage and you do damage with your gun. Why de-level a tele when you can just destroy it? It forces the engineer to go all the way back to spawn and build a new tele entrance (assuming they saved the exit) then level all the way back up from 1, on top of repairing the exit. That's much more annoying than just releveling it.

[@loreaxe1861]

Thank you for showcasing the spy’s guns as well as the knives! It shows new spy’s how valuable they are.

[@spicypainis4074]

maybe it's bad, but only real downside is 20% slower firing speed which only makes shots more accurate

[@barnabashorvath2149]

Wow a Mr.P video that I can watch in Hungary without waking up at 11pm! This is unreal!

[@Peter_Ian_Staker]

It would be a bit more interesting if the enforcer passively buffed your disguise speed, so you can disguise faster for the extra damage during a fight. Gimmicky but it could be useful.

[@mintrekii]

Ah look at the lovely thumbnail, ghee id love to know who put so much effort into making that amazing thumbnail, oh well i guess we will never know.

[@greeneggsnspam2111]

Though this is kind of unrelated to the video, do you think the decloak sound should have a maximum distance to be heard from? That way it might be easier to decloak without being hunted down by that one player with 40/20 hearing and max headphone volume.

[@ELL546]

I love how Mr paladin compliments everyone

[@gearhooves5996]

For me I had used the enforcer just for fun and now I cant get used to using any other revolver

[@elfasto2255]

7:35 The Spy didn’t die, what a legend.

[@theinterspeciesreviewer7400]

Alright another mrpaladin video, I have learned a lot about the spy by watching your videos. So thanks to you in almost every game I am at least in the top 3.

[@rainrunya]

i think that the older one was better. this one is just WAY too situational, and even in those situations, it's easily outclassed. also i want my amby range back, or at least the first-shot accuracy back to 100% instead of 50% or a strangifier for it, so people stop calling me out for using a unique spec ks amby

[@5obi]

Azotic Topaz But there are strange ambies out there, couldn’t you just get one of those

[@zmithyimafail8440]

neither both versions were like that fun to fight or fight against, i think it would be a nice gimmick weapon for the spy if they changed it or what i've been having in mind, es the most old western looking revolver (the l'etranger is a nagant but is already in use) why not make the spy a class changing weapon. something like +20% damage, left click will normal shooting, mouse 3 will let you hammer fire it with a really high fire rate or something like that, and increase the spy health up to 150, but makes every single of his backstabs only deal 50% of the total maximum health (require 2 backstabs and ignore overheeling [i a heavy is at 450 and gets backstab it will be 150 instead of 230]) and unable to disguise [nulify the eternal reward])

[@박건우-v6t]

The first shot accuracy was never lost. Please come up with valid complaints such as "it's weaker than the Revolver in all ranges" or "the headshot range is too short."

[@zmithyimafail8440]

tbh people sayingi s weaker than the revolver is kinda net picking, 90 damage is enough damage to make every other class enough (except the heavy) to die, and since when the spy was supposed a class to kill face by face?

[@rainrunya]

1. 박건우, I remember them saying in the initial 'preview' patch notes that they would decrease its first shot accuracy, and I thought they did do it in the official release, I'm sorry. 2. duckn1, I'm not buying a strange amby because mine is special to me, that's why I put the spec ks on a unique one.

[@thatslegit]

Easy enforcer buff: be able to shoot when Decloaking (and maybe being able to shoot when Recloaking) It will make the enforcer ENFORCE the firing mechanic of spies cloak and make it into a "fire on the whim" gun like some other guns in the game...

[@handsome4922]

A good idea for an enforcer buff would be to give it increased dmg on targets with less than 75% health and it would give the wearer 25-35% faster decloak speed. That'd make it a real opportunist weapon looking for a finishing blow on an escaping target.

[@Zhfreak]

It’s also a hard counter to the wrangler, as you can do full damage to the sentry thru the shield while the engie can only repair 33% of what he normally can, easily outdamaging his repairs.

[@xx5626]

For a long time I've been waiting for a video from Mr Paladin. Thanks for putting.

[@thebluebirdyt8955]

I like the enforcer cuz it does Xtra damage while disguised and I'm an accurate shot but not headshot accurate so ja

[@CowsR4me]

Around 17:55 you're standing on the dispenser, if you notice on the edge of the left side of your screen there's a little lip above the grey sheet metal door that doesn't open. I wonder if you can stand on it.

[@mrimlance]

Great video MrP. I was watching it though I brainstormed a potential change to the enforcer and was interested in what people thought. I'd say keep the slower firing rate and the penetrating shots. But instead of the bonus damage on disguise, the enforcer supplies temporary health on hit (similar to the kunia). Maybe something like 25 hp per shot, but only stacks up to three-four times (so 175-200 hp if using stock) I just feel like it could then synergise better with other knives. Miss your stabs? Just backpedal and open up. Get caught out with the kunia? No problem. It even works well with the knife it's part of a set with, the big earner, due to the lesser health the knife gives you. Not too sure I if this is completely balanced but I just wanted to feedback in what people thought.

[@mrimlance]

Please forgive any spelling and grammar errors. On mobile and bumped the post button before I could spell check.

[@nbdy6585]

He took only 5 minutes to hate the enforcer

[@nullbird]

I sometimes switch to the enforcer temporarily when there is a good razorback sniper or an abundance of them on the other team

[@taigaluv]

blazek1ller you better of using ambassador at close range

[@TheTimeWornSoul]

Mr.Paladin, I know this might sound silly. Try using the enforcer against a sapped sentry gun. I believe that the bullet penetration stat works on the gun. A small burst of damage might help barely take it down.

[@thumpe1]

I love the Enforcer, and seeing it this way is sad. Why Valve?! WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN MEEEE?!

[@nidzabalkan235]

In your eyes forsaken me

[@rroze3712]

Me when I’m a spy *Using Stock Revolver, DBack or ambassador* gets like no kills misses every shot *When using Letrenger or Enforcer* never misses goes on 30 kill-streak. When I use garbage revolver in terms of damage I get all the kills

[@nbdy6585]

that's because you play with more safety with these weapons

[@manofocean]

Nøbødy Enforcer isn’t garbage it only has the firing speed

[@declanmurphy6595]

This is like the problem with the old big earner. It was, by far, the worst spy knife right up to before gun mettle. It also has the problem of not being used enough, a lot like the YER before jungle inferno. It's primary upside is nothing to cheer for. There must be a change made to it. Or buff it even if you have to...

[@julienberman]

I see the way you play and I see the way a spy like moo plays, and I realize how sly can be played in totally different ways.

[@dustinfirestone5319]

In my opinion, the enforcer is second only to stock if you want something reliable, it has a slower firing speed but only upsides aside.

[@kaedenparten9126]

Enforcer needs a buff or straight rework for sure. I think it should be the definitive gunspy revolver. The old one is a good start, having a boost when undisguised. Perhaps it could do more damage based on how much cloak meter you have? Side note: we really need a silenced pistol for spy, obviously with the silent killer trait, like YER has.

[@demonizedlife2640]

Valve intended the weapon to finish off low health targets in one or two shots, but I seem to find myself in situations where the enemy has health which even the L'Etranger can finish off. So making it so that it does +25% damage to low health opponents would make it more useful. Or, maybe they could change the +20% to +40% damage bonus while disguised but add a 7 second cool down time on cloak every time you land a shot while disguised and remove the firing speed penalty. Positives +40 damage bonus while disguised Attacks pierce damage resistance effects and bonuses Negatives On hit while disguised: Wearer cannot cloak for 7 seconds No random critical hits.

[@staceymcnae4434]

itd be a hell of a lot more useful if it had some sort of stat allowing multiple shots while disguised perhaps if you land a shot you keep your disguise

[@DinnerForkTongue]

By this point the only thing I like on the Enforcer is its design. I'm a fan of the snubby aesthetic.

[@jackhudner3804]

Here's an idea: Rework the Enforcer to be sort of like the L'Etranger, but for health instead of cloak. Here's an idea of stats: (+) +20% health received from healthpacks on user (25.6% small, 60% medium, 100% large) (+) On hit: 50% of damage returned as health (30 at point-blank, 20 at mid-range, 10 at long-range) (+) Any source of health can overheal user (This means dispensers, healthpacks, and shooting with the revolver can heal user) ( - ) 30% Longer attack interval (0.754s as opposed to 0.58s) ( - ) 20% Longer decloak time on user (2.16s as opposed to 1.8s) Whaddya think? The Spy is sacrificing Lethality for Survivability, which sounds like a fair enough trade to me.

[@glamourguy9915]

Honestly i love how his voice is a bit calm

[@boomerman1100]

To improve your aim, turn your sensitivity up just a tiny notch, hardly noticeable, get used to the newer setting, then repeat when comfortable.

[@jameslee3508]

Always looking forward to your videos. :)

[@guppyseyeguy5115]

Just add a bonus : 1/2 disguise time or bonus damage for consecutive hits

[@shadow-lord9176]

As a pyro main, every time I see an enforcer spy I always salute them on chat, not because it's by far the worst weapon in most cases scenarios but because he annoys the engis on last PLEASE SOME ONE KILL THEM (I should not be screaming that as a support pyro lol)

[@a.collet6388]

What's the mod you're using that tells you about the damage taken by enemies or ''Heavy eating sandwich nearby'' ?

[@ssseaweed3800]

Alot of people doesnt really like the enforcer mainly because there are far more better revolver to use, i mean stock is a better option when it comes to self-defence, fail stab backup, enemies that are too dangerous to go close, etc.

[@rado1244]

Its effective against Wrangler shield, sapper protection, natasha/brass beast

[@megahobbit5972]

I remember the old enforcer it had a situational use and was mostly a last resort since it gave you a 20% damage boost undisguised which in my opinion was good but it had a lower firing speed i believe so at best a sidegrade to the stock since the revolvers are inaccurate still (it may have been less accurate too but not sure anymore) Sadly valve rather decides to listen to nerf gund that are perfectly fine or make certan weapons unusuable (see natacha and brass beast and amby) sad undeserved stuff

[@blossomrocks456]

Personally the enforcer is my primary for spy only because i find its slower rate of fire to be helpful when placing shots especially against other spies in a gun game. Other than that it doesn't really shine to much.

[@zoes5317]

I use it for the resistance penetration mostly. The thing melts wranglers and will shoot through any resistance apart from the sapper resistance (that includes DR spies). The damage bonus is really only good against 125 health classes with their backs against a wall or razorback snipers. I never understood why not one talks about the resistance piercing and how it got buffed in blue moon.

[@skelskeleton]

No one talks about it because it is an extremely obscure mechanic: List of all resistance weapons that i can recall from memory. Heavy's brass beast, fists of steel, and natasha: Just backstab him, he has a high enough hp pool that even with damage piercing it wont help all that much anyways. Medic's vaccinator (bullet resistance): _Just backstab him,_ or wait until he switches to explosive/fire, if his team is even slightly competent they will shoot the spy who is just standing around spamming revolver shots. Wrangler: This one is ok-ish. But remember that the engineer is likely having tunnel vision right now and stab and sapping is considerably easier on wrangled guns (takes longer before it shoots you) The issue is that the first 4 weapons I covered, no one uses as much as other options (except maybe fists), and all of them are already pretty bad on using a revolver anyways.

[@emilgabrielyan2174]

How do you have the old interface?

[@scarlysix5034]

I wish Valve would restore the stats so that it gave you more damage when undisguised, it just worked so much better and it wasn't even that powerful before.

[@strawmilitiagaming2090]

Mr. P the enforcer can two shot any 125 hp class when u hit ur first shot and follow up in close range. It's a good razorback killer

[@headwrinkle9896]

You're like the Bob Ross of Spies. "i'm just gonna grab this little health pack here, and STAB!"

[@sanguine2334]

Paladin.... are you using the..... RED TAPE RECORDER?! What happened to your mojo

[@MrPaladin]

Using weird loadout today

[@alexmendoza2688]

Enforcer suggested stats: +20% Dmg during cloak recharge when active -15% clip size (5 shots per clip) -50% cloak regen on wearer No random crits On kill: enemies drop small ammo packs instead of medium ammo packs With these stats it makes the Enforcer an ambush weapon that acts as a double edge sword, you gain more damage at the cost of being exposed longer than normal, but paired with it's set pair, the Big Earner, would synergies well with each other as the Big Earner gives you cloak when you kill with it, add the dead ringer and you could get a punishing set that gives you an edge after you feign death and makes you tactically use your disguise for some stealthy plays; Escentially it could force you to use all of spy's mechanics to your advantage.

[@oracleharbinger9729]

naah. almost every nerf to charge is bad choise to balance spy. Just make that damage is saved untill u land i hit and this hit have no damage fall off

[@kazuyaryuzaki]

Its nice to see try hard mr.paladin, you trying to make enforce work just like you doing contract, like it :), more vid like doing challange please :)

[@gumballegal]

My suggestion for the enforcer is to mark the enemy for death on first disguised shot, but idk how well it would tie into gameplay

[@BeamtheCat]

I actually forgot this gun existed Though with it in mind I have a fun load out challenge -Risky Business Eternal Reward and Enforcer Make hasty decisions on if the extra damage will be worth the disguise

[@cheezemonkeyeater]

1:38 - "While Engie's away, the spy will play."

[@thediam0nddrag0n78]

Did u no that in pyrovision, getting backstabbed by a spysickle will still allow the people to finish their quotes and have their mouths keep moving like that dead soldier in What Would You Do For A Dulunkus Bar?

[@offbrandgeorge]

i mostly use the enforcer to take down enemy teles, since the first does more damage the tele goes out in two shots and with the sapper.

[@Narinjas]

enforcer buff you can shoot the gun and when inside the enemy the disguise and they will see an normal gun fire you have 2 shots with 7 seconds cooldown between them (they are infinite if you do not hit anyone also the fiering of the disguise but when you are disguised the damage is 25% bigger from normal and when out of disguise is 25% lower (75% from normal damage) also 2 shots with cooldown of 7 seconds but the 3'rd cancel's your desguise) also for projectile shots like soilder you shoot at normal intervals and only enemyes can see the shots .... the idea is to make enforcer the only gun in spy's arsenal to be able to be fired while disguised and not loose the disguise for 2 shots but you have 3 shots in total with the 3'rd being like 1'st on other normal weapons also you do lower headshot damage with enforcer .

[@kurage_medusa]

Howabout a disguise kit that disguises faster, but has other debuffs, maybe the disguises disappear for a moment when hit

[@sirnarwhal9911]

They need to fix its damage since it ignores enemies that have damage vulnerability. Maybe make it allow you to decloak 50% faster as a bonus since the Enforcer is designed to answer back what's forcing you to come out from hiding.

[@Eldrak1911]

23:36 > Thadeus "Fury from the skyyyy !!!"

[@bigshagger1789]

rip x :((( I’ll never forget you and your message

[@Jamstaro1]

Wouldn't it be cool if the spy had a backstabbing gun. With a crit increase tired to how much cloak is drained at the time of the shot.... Granted yes I can see the abuse buuuuttt... I'm not saying huge crit like maybe a strong 60 crit behind and 80 on a headshot.... Idk but I could see it tied to good timing and leaves spy low on cloak.... Thoughts?

[@pajamaboy6833]

The enforcer used to be the only gun I ever used. Never understood why my friends mocked me all the time... The only benefit I see and maybe this is that valve was going for, having your first shot be 100% accurate so while your still in your disguise you can make the most count before your discovered. I dunno.

[@chainsawhavoc]

The first shot is 100% accurate for all the other spy guns as well.

[@OmegaRC59]

Any shot that takes place at least 1.25 seconds after firing is fully accurate, with the exception of the Ambassador and Enforcer which cut this down to 0.95 seconds. The 1.25 second time also applies to the Pistols and SMGs.

[@satoshi-raven]

Omega59 i see.thanks for info

[@Thrillionss]

I like playing spy sometimes, but usually I always die from a random crit while invis

[@drflufypanda1967]

Mr p I got a weapon idea fornyou. What about a zapper that is as slow as the red tape but increases all damage to the building while zapping.

[@chris4989]

Hey Mr. While cloaked use or stay with the revolver cuz the knife comsumes cloak : )

[@Rankerquat]

I play a lot of engineer/heavy, so I really appreciate videos like these that make spy-mains seem less intimidating! Keep being your goofy self, MrP!

[@marshmallowcoolboy5308]

One of my problem is I don't know when to uncloak and when to cloak in certain places. I also have a big fear of the wall hacks.

[@darkxaur]

There's no denying that you see some wierd stuff when C&D'ing.

[@Thegentechgamer]

Every time I see the L'etranger, I think "That looks like it shoots peas, it even sounds like it."

[@andreiamendes5449]

To make this viable, how about making it inflicts a small snare debuff, like the heavy's gun does? (don't remember wich) maybe this might save that gun, and not make it too overpowered. Also, since it ignores most buffs, why not ignore damage reduction from sappers?

[@simpingforbabish1209]

RIP Pre-gunmettle enforcer We will always remember you

[@blaisem8635]

The Spy is smoking all the time but a random scout brings him drugs as well XD (2:22)

[@tabledesk9726]

I have an idea for buffing the enforcer It’s a minor buff but I think it’s necessary. Idea: Let the enforcer be able to reload the gun while the spy is invisible This might sound stupid but this could change the gun

[@Zasch584]

noice

[@thidios]

I think I may be wrong but isn't the enforcer supossed to deal with controled sentries? As engies cannot shoot with the wrangler and regen the sentry at the same time

[@oben2524]

That intro really caught me, i am at work, but its luch break LMAO.

[@josephcheng5807]

10:00 you bumped another spy i think , telling from the tele traces just floating around

[@Wheezr]

Mr.Paladin, I think it is the Placebo effect. The brain thinks you are going to miss, you will miss. Just like how medicine works when you think it will work.

[@sealofapproval4844]

Sometimes when I play spy and I’m doing really good at acting I start thinking I’m on the enemy team and I get confused when I can’t sap my own engie’s sentries and dispensers

[@TheGlogster]

Lmao

[@napalm6967]

can you do a video using the your eternal reward, enforcer, and the cloak and dagger thank you if you do.