Beginners Machinist Tool Box pt2 Tips

[@MrAvjones]

Again Mr. Pete nothing is boring with your video's. Even thou I'm 74 I still enjoy the world of mechanics, it keeps me young.

[@mrpete222]

Thank you

[@CalvinEdmonson]

I was interviewing for a cnc job opportunity once and they were showing me all around their new cnc machines and introducing the "kids" who ran them. They pointed over to the old timer and said "that's our manual guy" and kind of dismissed him of any importance. I went over and introduced myself and made the statement that he was no doubt the smartest guy in the shop. They all just looked at me dumbfounded. I passed on the job offer.

[@mrpete222]

Too bad, the old man got no respect

[@johnwayne2103]

I always hang around the old guys.

[@KnotWoodworking]

Love the stories mixed in with your videos, Mr. Pete. It's one of the reasons I'm subscribed to you.

[@MaturePatriot]

R Patterson - AMEN!

[@brosselot1]

Ive got a couple of Kennedy boxes and risers. I just bought a Waterloo full set of boxes with some basic tools in it from a guy that decided that being a machinist was not for him. And when I got it home found a set of mics in it with a guy's name an address and phone number. Called the number the guy told me that the new guy borrowed his mics about a week ago and then quite. It was late on a Sunday night and I jumped in my truck and drove 2 hours north up to Akron Ohio and gave them back to the guy. This guy was sick about these mics because he gave about $600 for them and he didn't have the money to replace them. I told him the very same thing never borrow or lend especially if you don't know them. Great video. You keep teaching and I will keep learning. Thanks Mr Pete. See you at John Saunders open house.

[@mrpete222]

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[@mwechtal]

Big Bill at Iron Garage you sir are a very honorable man. All too many today would have just kept them.

[@brosselot1]

mwechtal Thank you I've always tried to treat others the way I want to be treated. My father always taught me to be honest and a man is only as good as his word.

[@andymandyandsheba4571]

mr pete dont ever put yourself down you are a tool maker i have seen you make tools i love your videos keep them coming

[@mrpete222]

So true

[@mrpete222]

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[@stxrynn]

Being content IN a situation is different than being content WITH a situation. I loved the "I was poor and I liked it..." That's a lost art.

[@that1electrician]

"I lived in a basement in abject poverty, and liked it". Badass level 1000%.

[@MrShobar]

"Abject poverty" is a relative term. I'm sure that Mr. Pete's definition would not even remotely align with conditions encountered in many parts of the third world.

[@mrpete222]

lol

[@MrShobar]

I wish I owned that rare half-box. Badass level 1000%

[@CB.5]

No shit, Sherlock

[@frankcurley]

Some of our fondest memories were of our university years eating hamburger in every different mode we thought was known. We didn't have much but we sure had a lot of fun with friends and made the best of what we had to share with them. Forty years later, I wish I could go back to that for just one weekend.

[@pjhalchemy]

Tool boxes are like vises to me, one can never have enough. Great tour Mr. Pete and loved the stories and commentaries! Thank You!

[@mrpete222]

Thank you

[@felixf5211]

Heh, 10 (including two Kennedy tops) toolboxes and 7 American vises bolted to benches in my shop.

[@kgee2111]

I’ve got an eight drawer Kennedy tool box just like the one you show. I never knew there was a hole in the bottom of the deep middle drawer! Thank you Mr Pete!

[@mrpete222]

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[@essexmirage]

Very informative, I inherited my fathers old toolmakers cabinet and will restore it soon, so it's been great to learn what all his old tools were and what they are used for, thank you sir

[@jeffreysanto]

Love the video, along with all the suggested tools I would also add a couple of inspection mirrors and a LED pocket flashlight :)

[@mrpete222]

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[@HulkSmash86]

Just started watching your videos and I enjoy them. I’m 33 now and have been in the trade since I was 18. One little cheap thing I keep a few of in my tool box are strong magnets with hooks on them; I can hang prints anywhere I want on a lathe, mill or just something to hang a blowgun that’s comfortable to me. Also I like the mechanical gauges more as I trust them more but I do have a few digital Mitutoyo mics that read in ten millionths for aerospace jobs. The newer digital tools will last 2-3 years on a single battery too. Take care

[@mrpete222]

Thank you, that’s a good idea with the hooks. Thank you for watching

[@MrShobar]

Inspection mirror. I use them all the time.

[@mrpete222]

Forgot to mention that, I have ten

[@krisgabrielson4020]

Perfect for inspecting boogers

[@W.Edwardovich]

“Do not be a borrower or a lender.” Too true!

[@mrpete222]

Yes

[@papaloongie]

Hi mrpete! I inherited my first machinists’ toolbox from my father-in-law. He had been a mechanic at a Canadian airline, he worked on Merlin engines. Everyone made a screwdriver out of a Merlin pushrod.. Still have that. The other one came from a gentleman that had been a career machinist and was retiring. He had sold his home and was moving. We talked a bit (in French, up here in Quebec) and he asked me why I wanted the box.. I told him my story about wanting to learn more about machining (I’m only 106) and he said “wait a minute “ and proceeded to fish out a mint starett 1-inch micrometer in its red box and a set of inside gauges.. I was honoured..fished out a few more dollars and thanked him profusely.. Wish I could have learned more from the gent . A gentle soul.. thank you sir…

[@mrpete222]

That was a nice story. Great tools

[@papaloongie]

Take care Your videos make my day!

[@danedewaard8215]

I stopped borrowing tools soon after I got married. I borrowed tools from my father in-law, brother in-law, and a few friends. Many of the tools were ready to break when borrowed and broke in my use!!! I ended up buying two tools, one replacement and one for myself!!! I quickly learned that rule about borrowing and lending!!! Your videos are so G R E A T !!!

[@mrpete222]

Neither a borrower or a lender be

[@bigmikeh5827]

Mr Pete. I have two personal boxes in my classroom where I teach. One is mine that I used as a multcraft tech. The other was my dad’s who passed last year. I use both boxes as training aids on a daily basis. Had two students that asked to get a pass in the hand tool chapter as they “knew” tools. I said I would pull 10 tools from my box, if they could tell me what they were and what they are used for I would pass them. Needless to say they learned more than they thought. Keep up the great work sir

[@mrpete222]

That is awesome. I always had a lot of my own tools at school. It's good to hear from a shop teacher. It is a noble profession

[@mrc1539]

Mr Pete, i got my first Kennedy Tool Box in 1963, I traded a 1947 Chevrolet Coupe for it . I only paid 30 dollars for the Chevy and still think it was one of the better deals I ever made. Also I think I found the secret to Christmas List , I tell everyone it has to be “ Edible, Disposable, or Inheritable “ . Thanks for the memories !

[@danermer2955]

I too lived in a basement apartment and liked it. W Lafayette, IN, $311, furnished, including most utilities in the late 80s, and had an old car that thankfully waited until I saved a little up before it needed it for repairs.

[@mrpete222]

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[@MrGoosePit]

I lent a neighbor a pair of jack stands. He had them for over 2 years. After the first several months I'd ask him if he was done using them, would he mind bringing them back. Finally I had to actually sneak into his garage and take them back. Felt like I was stealing. He never mentioned it in conversation, nor did I. But, I will never lend him another tool. Loved the tool box series Mr. Pete!

[@MikeBramm]

Thanks for sharing. It seems we're always re-organizing our tool boxes as we get more tools. But I guess that's part of the fun.

[@jonhardy3116]

One very really comment on any uploads too utube, be it a top of the range contender or one that gets flushed down the toilet, but I would have to say that, in my humble opinion, your set of videos are some of the best out there. I salute you sir.

[@mrpete222]

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[@rogeroconnor5182]

i picked up a old craftsman machinist box last year at a flea market,the woman mentioned making it into a jewelry box....lol. my box was not made by kennedy,but by a company that made metal shelving and such. i plan on restoring it at some point,thanks for the tips and info as always

[@dannyl2598]

It's funny how similarly things are arranged to the way my boxes are and even some of the things that end up in the same drawer. Thanks for the video Mr Pete.

[@ColtonMcAfee]

just starting to buy tools to fill my newly acquired Kennedy box. This was a very helpful overview of what I should be on the lookout for

[@gqp3215]

Still have top and bottom Kennedy, over 50 years old and Browne and Sharpe 1 and 2 inch Mikes with all the options over 100 bucks in 1970 dollars. Satin chrome carbide faces,tenth reading to hand down to my son

[@toadjam12000]

I was taught to only put precision tools in your tool & die makers tool box. Rough tools like wrench's, files, drill bits, counter bores, counter sinks, screw drivers, hammers, etc.. went in a separate box.

[@richardrogers567]

Happy to see the pocket knife. I enjoy your videos.

[@Handandhammerprojects]

A great book also which i have in the collection is the 'Brown & Sharpe' book called 'A guide for the young machinist' it was given to me by a family member who also was a machinist, love the info and videos from the U.K..

[@mrpete222]

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[@johnjohn-ed9qt]

I have had one of the HF wood chests for about 10 (15?) years. It is better than the price, but not in any way better than sufficient. The drawer bottoms will sag and the joints will fail if you carry it loaded. Starrett still gives the data cards away for free (drill and tap, among others) as well as the drill and tap wall chart.

[@Petzlglyph]

I used a piece of steel strapping ( used to hold materials to pallets ) and bent a couple to make retainers to hold charts inside the lid of my newer boxes that didn't have the retainer. I also like to put a piece of scrap carpet in the bottom of hammer/large tool drawers. Thanks for the Vid's, keep it up!

[@mrpete222]

That's a good idea

[@tobydulanski3000]

I actually have the Machinist Practical Guide from Morse Cutting Tools Reprint. Original Copyright 1929, 1970, and 1973. Yours is in much better shape. Amazing how many Toolboxes we outgrow in this trade. People forget who mades things for all industries. You can take the Machinist out of the Shop but you can't take the Shop out of the Machinist. Thank You.

[@mrpete222]

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[@RickSpeer]

I find that charts can be taped or applied in some way to the inside of the drawer cover on the Kennedy boxes.

[@mrpete222]

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[@isbcornbinder]

I have three identical machinist tool boxes exactly like tike the box in this video except for the colors. One is a Craftsman in gray. The Beach is green. Beach is a tool box maker, in Canada. I have no doubt that BEACH made all three boxes. The drawer pulls on each box are identical. I bought the Craftsman for $40, The Beach was $75 and the Kennedy was $125

[@ontariosfinest8971]

I love Beach boxes, made in Smith's Falls Ontario

[@PaulSteMarie]

Gerstner has a nice forum on their site with lots of info for restoring old chests, and puts a lot of support for matching replacement parts, etc. The genuine article is still made with hide glue, and you can replace the felt if need be with a bit of patience. It's a shame I never got into machining back when I grew up in Dayton.

[@Booker58]

Hi, Mr Pete222, I'm from Sydney Australia I find your videos on KZbin very interesting and informative, I'm not a machinist but I still like watching your KZbin videos, I also like your sense of humour..

[@mrpete222]

Thank you very much

[@Toyotas_n__Tools]

I had a bunch of odds n ends like you do with my tools until I put them together in bunches and sold them in lots of $50-$120 on ebay, and then with the money gained I reinvested in quality and name brand tools that were new and had new warranty (proof of purchase needed for lots of stuff these days). Since I have done that I have a more complete tool collection with more proper tools for the jobs I purchased them for. I'm more so in automotive so I have started acquiring specialty tools such as diagnostic items like a power probe and multi-meter. I have a very well put together basic parts hanger tool chest tour video in my channel, my toolbox at the moment is a 26inch craftsman box with 7 drawers and a 3 drawer add-on below it... I also bought a 5 drawer tool cart that im transferring over to tho. Great videos sweety you are a lovely man!

[@mrpete222]

Good idea

[@57WillysCJ]

Gerstner I believe made a leather covered box. I worked with a guy that had bought one from a guy that retired. Of course I last saw that box 35 years ago. I find a set of gunsmith screw bits to give you a good range in a small package. By the way could you make replacement drawer pulls for Kennedy boxes on the 3D printer? If you want to keep one original, replace all the pulls on a box that doesn't matter and use the original pulls to replace on the box that matters.

[@pjdambra]

Fun video to watch Pete. Not that I’m an apprentice, I’m 70, and I have a lifetime collection also. Interesting to see our similarities. One thing I learned after all these years was the purpose of the center draw for the Handbook. We never used them for that purpose that I remember. I always used it as a security draw, Someplace to lockup my wallet, keys and anything else that needed protection during the workday while the box was unlocked, that single center draw could remain to be individually locked..

[@mrpete222]

Thank you for that. After all these years, I did not know that center drawer could be individually locked

[@34k5]

I love these videos that are just packed with lifetime experience!

[@dannywilsher4165]

I think you should sign all of your tool boxes and everything else. When the estate sale happens, it will make all of your possessions more valuable and people can brag that they got a genuine Mr. Pete item!!!

[@mrpete222]

lol

[@LemmingFNSR]

Sir, thanks again from Australia. Don’t you dare stop making videos & do not alter your style. You (and AvE) are inspirational. I do not say this lightly. If I can convince the wife I would like to visit. Take care and keep up the good work. M

[@mrpete222]

Thank you very much

[@Tryin2FlyII]

mrpete- I love ALL your videos!! but this is one of my many favorites for many reasons. My Granddad had a Gerstner box it looked alot like the pro series but i am not for sure about that though. I think that is part of the reason I like your channel so much is that you remind me a lot of him not visually (he was 6'3" & 250 plus lbs) but the way you speak and your take on many things.The story's that you tell along with your videos are also what makes them so good so don't think that you give to much information or more than "We" need or off topic that is what makes them so enjoyable! (at least for me that is). What I started to post was one of the good memory of that Gerstner box when he retired and brought it home was the strong smell of camphor, he kept small pieces in every drawer he told me it was to keep his tools from rusting and I was wondering if you ever did or heard of that? oh BTW - if I ever got caught looking at his tools without him around----well lets just say I could't sit down for a few says Lol As always GREAT video and two thumbs up Sir !!!!!

[@mrpete222]

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[@TylerNewberry]

Thank you for sharing. I have been a maker for many years, but have never machined. I just bought my first lathe - a 1970s Craftsman 101.07301. I will be rummaging through your videos over the coming weeks! I'm currently reading through a reprint of How to Run a Lathe: The Care and Operation of a Screw Cutting Lathe by O'Brien, John Joseph.

[@mrpete222]

That is a very good book

[@MrUbiquitousTech]

Great series Mr. Pete! I have that HF Windsor box, rather like it. For the price, no complaints! FWIW Starrett still has some cool giveaways, I sent off for those pocket guides and a nice wall chart, all laminated.

[@860240]

I like to keep hammers, spanners and big screw divers in a simple wooden tote box away from the best tools. A box made by a carpenter apprentice mate would do the job.

[@mrpete222]

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[@JamesDedmon]

A couple of things, one I do have one of the HF wooden boxes my main complaint is the dividers move around too much, it replaced a Craftsman machinist box that was shabby. One thing you could have mentioned is there is something called a Black Book that has the commonly used information for thread depths drill and tap sizes plus clearance drills and lots of other information. Sort of a miniature Machinery’s Manual it’s $30. Finally I’m in your camp it’s hard to beat a dial caliper. I prefer a Starrett because he rack is on the top and has course teeth with care less prone to jumping off track.

[@mrpete222]

Yes, I have one. Have a shown it inmany other videos

[@steph2211]

Nice mrpete i just go crazy wen you are showing tools nice video

[@mrpete222]

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[@toolmaker5433]

Started my apprenticeship with a converted wooden munitions box my dad managed to find from somewhere, I saved up and eventually bought a eight draw Moore and Wright wooden tool box. I've used it almost every day since my retirement six years ago. By the way I think it cost £25..00, I was only on £2.19. 6 per hour at the time so it was a hard save.

[@mrpete222]

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[@toolmaker5433]

Thanks for bringing the error to my attention it should have read PER WEEK

[@toolmaker9411]

steve gale Just checked an old pay slip from 1965 ,42 hour week,£3.10.5 gross, £3.2.5 NET. That's what I earned from my employer Westland Helicopters, Fairey Aviation Division. End of.

[@kennymillar19]

Steve Gale. This guy as you rightly stated got his hour rate confused with his weekly rate. You are also correct, old money was LSD so you wrote eg. £5 2s 3d. I was an apprentice engineer so not in daily contact with precision tools. You wanted a mic or vernier you went to the stores where they were in their individual wooden cases. We kept our hand tools in simple metal cantilever boxes until the emergence of the roll cab. You sir are vindicated.

[@TheArsonsmith4242]

I think I've got my apprentice level tool box pretty well filled out now and working up to the next level. Like you, everything is in my own shop so I have a little less "security" worry. I also have to go through the tools I've inherited from my father who was a heavy equipment mechanic for Empire. I did end up getting rid of a lot of the obvious stuff I'd never use like 2"+ wrenches and socket sets and tons of stuff that is just 10x bigger than anything I'd ever work on.

[@ebounds5828]

Thank you Mr Pete, for sharing your many years of experience ! I wanted a Kennedy toolbox but didn't have the $$$ to purchase a new one, so I found one on Craigslist Dallas, the guy Don swank retired from Bell helicopter, I got the Kennedy 620 and a Craftsman box for $20

[@mrpete222]

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[@johndifrancisco3642]

I was told I was a spoiled brat when I pouted because my parents (Mom) could not understand that if the tool did the same thing, why pay more. She used to call me Little Lord Fauntleroy. I feel SO much better about pouting now! Kind of justified :) Thanks Mr. Pete!

[@pinrestore]

It's a fallacy that a cheap tool does the same thing as a high-quality one. The main omission is time; how many decades will a cheap tool still function as required vs. a quality tool. Then there are things like slipping off and busting your knuckles, making poor measurements and requiring extra work or having to scrap the whole thing and start over. You have to see the big picture.

[@johndifrancisco3642]

pinrestore, That is SO true. I think only people who use or have used tools on some sort of regular basis can comprehend that. That was such a good point Lyle made about being specific in what you ask for, but sometimes you have to know when to give up and buy your own tools ;)

[@TheSuburban15]

"Buy once, cry once." The cheap tools often don't last, and sometimes don't work properly to begin with.

[@1musicsearcher]

My first box was a Craftsman with four drawers. I outgrew it in two weeks.

[@mrpete222]

lol

[@mikeking7349]

I like the level in the combo square for timing key ways. I take the rule out and just use the head. Sufficient. Thanks Tubalcain.

[@stevenacarter77]

Outstanding set of videos thank you.

[@mrpete222]

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[@stevenacarter77]

i have NO IDEA what that little yellow thing is or what it means ?

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Good setup to get started. Enjoyed and thank you.

[@mrpete222]

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[@pinrestore]

Products Engineering Corp tools are all made in USA. I have gotten some nice PEC tools on eBay by buying seconds or blems. Search PEC Blems on eBay to see what's available.

[@mrpete222]

Yes, they have some great tools

[@anthonypirrello2473]

Great video. I think you forgot two basic items for a beginner or otherwise. That being a pad (similar to those I sent you sometime ago) and pencil. You're always needing to write things down,such as needed tools,needed supplies,notes,etc..

[@TheSuburban15]

Mostly replaced by the smartphone, but I keep a legal pad handy for drawings and measurements if I need to replicate or mate parts.

[@SouseMouse]

I wonder if the "comments are disabled" for the previous video was due to the ladybug. Those who protest its squashing have never lived where they're so plentiful as to be a menace. In the country you get inches-deep drifts of ladybugs, and they're really annoying. They get everywhere, persist for months, and stink.

[@mrpete222]

You are absolutely right on all counts. I wonder if those liberals would kill a spider if it was in bed with them. Or kill moles that made a mess out of a kitchen cabinet?

[@MrUbiquitousTech]

Lieberals ruin everything, it's part of their modi-operandi.

[@jdog4534]

Aghhh.. ..another perfectly fine thread ruined by politics. All I wanted to do was comment on the volume or concentration of ladybugs. As soon as you mentioned that, I swear, I could smell them. Then you mentioned that they smell. I didn't think anyone else noticed. I remember discovering a whole colony of them in a log segment that washed up on Pismo beach. there were thousands and thousands of them. My cousin and I rolled them back into the surf and watched evolution at it's finest. I don't know how many survived but I assume they were the strongest. ..or the luckiest..

[@mwechtal]

SouseMouse The biting ones are an invasive species, and are messing up the ecology in some ways. They should all be destroyed if possible. (Ok I realize it's not possible, but...)

[@bettytherussiantortoise2808]

mrpete222 I thought that was so funny just moved it with a ruler then squashed it was so funny because it was so unexpected.

[@rtkville]

Good video Mr. Pete! I've looking for a mid box for my 8 drawer Kennedy Box but haven't found one yet. Thanks again.

[@mrpete222]

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[@lightbox33]

Hi. I just bought a vintage Craftsman machinist toolbox just like yours. I never knew that Kennedy made them for Craftsman. I guess if Palmgren can make vises for Craftsman why not Kennedy with their toolboxes. Awesome video. Thanks,

[@mrpete222]

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[@cowtowneric]

totally loved it, not so much removed from my morasse of tools (I love Kennedy! too) whuch I try to keep organized. Have yet to find safe storage methods for multiple reamers and taps. Got twist bits figured out but the organization stops a 1", but I got bigger! So when you got the usual to larger twist bits, but also the brad point/left handed/orifice/metric and specialty drill bits, how would you keep them organized?-Huot don't make cabinets suitable....Eric

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@GustusSH13]

Hi! I came across your pt 1 video and this pt 2 video. I’m looking into buying an old used machinist chest (metal) to restore, but the particular chests I am looking at are each missing the front cover. I’m only looking at chests with a cabinet/drawer type keyed lock so that I can easily replace and use the lock. How difficult would it be to make a replacement cover out of either plywood or sheet metal (like with a cheap $50-75 bending brake if necessary)? Is this something you would possibly consider making a tutorial of? I know not all chests are the same and I’m sure the front covers are unique too, so what I’d really be watching for is the advice on how to go about the design and all the factors to consider. If you would think about this problem and can come up with a solution, just know that I’d be excited to watch and learn anything you had to say on the matter. Thanks in advance!

[@stephengent9974]

I went back to school in my thirties. My freshman year was 1992. I lived on 20 bucks a week. That was all I has left after paying for books and rent. I cycled to school every day. I lost a few pounds. I guess a bit of hardship was not a bad thing. Still, as a mature student, I knew what I was at school for.

[@mrpete222]

Yes, no sense of entitlement

[@tropifiori]

I have one of those new type craftsman tool box. It sat on a bench. I have all my tooling in it- a couple hundred pounds. I opened one two many drawers and it toppled forward and the lid smashed me on the upper lip. It almost knocked me out and I had to get stitches. So they can be tip hazards so they need to be secured.

[@mrpete222]

Wow, be careful

[@dantaylor2965]

You have talked about craftsman half box a few times, I also own one. Have had since 1969 when I got my leathe

[@mrpete222]

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[@johnvuc]

And a box of Band-Aids.

[@TheSuburban15]

. . . and tweezers. Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see or hear tweezers mentioned.

[@felixf5211]

I always carry a few Band-Aids in my wallet. Since I was a kid.

[@drmodestoesq]

And a jeweler's loup. When you're old and blind like me it's the only way to extricate the minuscule scythe-like pieces of metal from under your skin with a pair of tweezers.

[@christurley391]

Not one indicator? Anyway, thanks for the video.

[@FredFlintstone21]

Wow you have alot of awesome tools! That mitutoyo inside mic would come in very handy for me, i machine with swiss lathes, and im using pins to get me within print, and an inside mice would get me quicker than going in the tooling room and trying to find the right pin size that fits. You nailed it about, "dont buy a new kennedy box, plenty of em for sale" i found a kennedy 7 drawer 277xb roller box and side shelf, also with a 2600B riser, and on top, a 3611B 11 drawer top. It took me close to 3 hrs to vacuum the fine aluminum shavings out of the felt liners, as the fella had it in an aluminum shop. After cleaning everything, id give it 9.5 out of 10, paying $700, whereas new everything is $2,000. For an extra $100 he gave me an unbelievable amount of tools. Even his hammers! Later it hit me, if i was getting rid of my hammers, i wouldn't be at a good place in life. Love your head magnifier! Its interesting on the kennedy website, "your kennedy wrinkie finish can be cleaned periodically with WD-40® or Murphy®Oil Soap

[@mrpete222]

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[@luisenriquealabattgarza253]

My wife gave to me a few years ago a craftsman tool box with 3 drawers and i love it, this is the toolbox for my micrometers, vernier calipers, protractors, rules, and some of my metrology instruments. The most used instruments are on my lathe`s bench, i made it a year ago with really big drawers, the major problem was the disorder and i solve that problem with cookies, chocolate or cheese cans, cookies in a can was mine hahahhaha, sweet and practice at the same time.

[@mrpete222]

That toolbox was a nice present

[@luisenriquealabattgarza253]

Oh yeah, :D

[@PanamaSticks]

When I left machining school ('91), I emptied my life savings ($600) to buy a bunch of Starrett tools as recommended by some experienced machinists. It was a mistake. I did not need a large, case hardened surface gage, or one of those real fancy toolmakers v-blocks. Waste of over $350 on two tools I never used once in a 25 year career. I also made the mistake of buying an early design Starrett digital caliper. Vastly inferior to Mitutoyo digitals. The Starrett had no on /off switch and two batteries that would die in two weeks sitting unused. Had to remove 4 tiny screws to replace those batteries. Every time I picked it up to use it, the batteries were dead. There was no thumb roll either, and the thing was $250. I complained to Starrett and fought them for months till they finally replaced the unit with an improved design. I STILL much prefer Mitutoyo. Their digitals react faster, have thumb rolls, and the battery lasts 6 months to a year, as well as being easy to install. I prefer vernier calipers to dials, as the dials sometimes jump the track or get jammed by a chip.

[@mrpete222]

Great comments. We all have tools that we never have occasion to use. It’s no big deal when you buy them used for a reasonable price

[@sazquach]

Mr. Pete, thanks for the video. I enjoyed it, but also blame you for my tool addiction. Just bought another height gage.

[@mrpete222]

lol

[@MrDB42]

The one thing that I would add, is to start collecting more METRIC measuring instruments (micrometers, calipers, rulers), cutters, drills, etc. Practically everything I have to fix, or modify, or create to work with something else is all done in metric now. It's so much easier to just work in metric, than do the conversions back to imperial. I'm slowly investing in metric tooling and it's making my life easier. But trying to get metric stuff here in the USA, is a royal pain, but do-able.

[@mrpete222]

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[@MrDB42]

I forgot to mention that I've converted my lathe and mill dials to metric also. OMG, I'm loving it!!!

[@rasmillion]

I bought a Kennedy box new online several years ago, it came all jimmyed looking like yours The sheet metal bends back though

[@mrpete222]

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[@Wooley689]

In the previous video towards the end you showed a smaller square box you said you'd never seen before. Those hang on the side of the bottom chest opposite the handle side to give more storage space.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@johneagles6901]

Great video, very informative. Re metal vs wood toolboxes, I was thinking of making my own from 3/4" plywood with hardwood edging and full extension drawer slides. How well do you think it would hold up? Any suggestions regarding finish to make cleaning off oil and grease etc. Thanks.

[@mrpete222]

That sounds like a good idea. But I am not a woodworker. I would think polyurethane would be a good finish

[@johneagles6901]

My idea is to make it to a size that suits my tools. I am planning on just putting layout, measuring and marking tools in it. So I am figuring on making the drawers 1" to 1.5" deep. I just love the look of the wooden boxes.

[@lawrencemay8671]

Putting yourself thru school makes you appreciate it more.

[@1969elder]

In your first video you mentioned the gerstner tool box. I remember working with a man that had one. I needs a box for my office and found this one on Amazon and the price was well cheap. I figured it wasn’t good but wanted to compare. I was shocked. TRINITY TWM-3501 Wood Toolbox, Brown that was the u it and wish I could send you one to not only have but compare. Anyway sir. Thank you very much as always.

[@jeremyhuffer8318]

I been watching hours and hours of ur video's

[@mrpete222]

Thank you very much. There are 1000 of them

[@BoxcarsGarage]

Enjoyed it! Just starting in it. Picked up a little gem of a Craftsman 109 to cut my teeth on in the shop.

[@MrUbiquitousTech]

Have you found the Yahoo 109 lathe group yet? Some good info and helpful people over there. I have two of the 109s myself, haven't' set them up yet though.

[@BoxcarsGarage]

ShysterLawyer I have not sir... Thanks I'll look them up soon. Might do a video on my 109 tonight....if you get bored, look up Boxcar's Garage tomorrow and it'll be up. Thanks for the info.

[@MrUbiquitousTech]

Boxcar's Garage; sure thing, I'll look forward to your video

[@mrpete222]

There was a model 109 in the antique store I have visited this morning. It was marked $250.

[@BoxcarsGarage]

mrpete222 Wow, feeling better about my purchase...got mine for $50 but is missing the motor and the set of reduction gears that interchange. Have 1, but that's it. Should have my video done in an hour or so.. final edits now.

[@brucejohnson5030]

I have a little Starrett protractor like the second one he showed, but it's really dark with tarnish and corrosion; any tips on cleaning it up?

[@JR-yr8xm]

Bought a Kennedy 3 drawer a couple weeks ago at a garage sale, i spotted it real quick. I'm sure my eyes lit up, but I immediately calmed myself to not seem so excited, in case the seller wanted to put up a fight on the price. So i walked up right away and kindly asked how much they wanted, they said $35 then said, "you know what?, give me $30", pulled out the cash and felt so proud taking it home. I've been going back and fourth in putting certain tools in it, but it fills up so quick. Looks like i'll have to get me 2 or 3 more Kennedy tool boxes, or any other nice vintage ones.

[@TheSuburban15]

The Kennedy boxes can be found in industrial auctions, often in multiples. We had a whole bunch, but now only buy the Chinese ones. You'd have better luck there than yard shows or flea markets.

[@juanzuluaga3388]

This video is very helpful, thank you!

[@JagMods]

As with 99.95% of your videos, I've throughly enjoyed watching and have learned a bunch. You probably don't remember who I am because you probably get thousand and thousands of comments - and I'm pretty sure you like me (A fellow KZbin Creator) try to respond to each one of the comments as best as possible. I truly value your videos, and have earned quite a bit of theory on machining. Up until recently the closest machining tool I owned is a set of cheap files, a tapered reamer, which I thought was a deburring tool (until I learned otherwise from your videos), and an a free to me drill press mediocre drill press, a cheap belt sander & bench grinder. Two weeks ago from yesterday, My son of 21yrs young, 6 days from his 22nd birthday took his own life, and I have no idea why. My Son and I were very close; he came home more days of the week, than where are days he didn't. Essentially we spent a bunch of time together. He was a good boy, well, young man - maybe a bit sheltered; naive to this angry & dishonest world we live in; got taken on eBay a couple of times. There aren't words that can express how much I want this all to be a horrible, horrible, dream in which I can wake from and my Son is pulling up in the drive in the '96 Impala SS (the same car he had his first car ride; when he was a new born). To say I miss him would be grossly understated.... There is a point. A very dear friend of mine stopped by the house after he heard the horrible news. Equally devastated, with tear filled eyes he gave me a hug and said, "if anybody on this planet didn't deserve this it would be you, Mark. You were a great Dad to Trent and Amy's kids too." There aren't words... There just aren't any...; wiping the tears from his eyes, he walked around to the back of his truck, flopped down the tail gate where was Craftsman Lathe 6" and a couple of boxes laid to rest. He followed up with, "I know you' offered to buy it, but I didn't have the heart to sell it to you because I knew it didn't work right the chuck has a bit of a weeble wobble to it; and the decades of sitting in the corner of the shop has taken it's toll on all the turny bits". It's pretty much a frozen solid piece of shop art." "Get on the other side of it, and help me unload it - you're gonna need something to do." Fast forward a week, I've cleaned off the rust (thanks to you and your videos) and have gotten everything to work and move freely. all of the mating surfaces still have the machining marks and the bed is straight an an arrow - I think. I put a dial indicator on the saddle and moved up and down the lengh of the bed and everything works as it should. There are a couple sacrificial brass nuts that have been stripped - probably from hammer and chisel mechanic style of loosening things up. To the point, and I hope you can help me with this question. 1. The cross feed brass nut that resides under the metal plate is badly worn. There's about .020" run out at the handle. I've ordered two of these "nuts" from different vendors, from ebay but none of the nuts fit. I can get the cross slide amce threaded shaft all of the way through until about 2 threads stick out the other side then it won't turn any more. 2. I don't have anyway of measure / figure out what the thread pitch is on acme threads - would you by chance know what the size and thread pitch is? It looks like the threaded rod is about 5/16" in diameter, but I can't find any information on acme threads that small. it seems to all start at around 7/16". 3. this is a good lead in to my next question, In your toolbox videos you mentioning that you're going to throw stuff away. I'm new to machinging and other than a dial indicator & a depth indicator; I don't have any machinist tools - so if you're going to throw anything away - send it my way please. I can be reached via twitter @jag_mods; from there I'll be happy provide an email address & phone number. Thanks again for taking the time to produce these videos. I know what an effort it is; and your efforts are truly appreciated by the KZbin community - and especially me. Sincerely, Mark

[@mrpete222]

Very sad indeed. You made me cry. There are terrible things in almost every family. My son who is now about 35 and we are estranged from him, went a stray while he was a teenager. We finally had to divorce ourselves from him. We cried rivers over this for many years. Now I’ only grieve over it about 10 times per day. You will eventually feel better as time goes by. Many people turn to alcohol and drugs over the grief. I will pray for you and your wife. There are some things we will never understand, and you never think it will happen in your family. I will try to get back to you on the technical matters if I can sort that out, Lyle

[@JagMods]

mrpete222 Thank you 🙏

[@JagMods]

mrpete222 If there is anyway to repair the riff between your son and your family; it may worth a try again. I also understand it takes two to come to any resolution, and I don’t know anything about the situation, and sometimes the resolution is acceptance or to agree to disagree. I also know if drugs or alcohol are involved; there isn’t anyway to come to any sort of resolution, because the conflict may be the trigger to use. Substance abuse is a nasty nasty thing. Cunning and baffling. I’ve seen way too many truly good people People who lose their way, succumb and ultimately their addiction takes their life. I’m sorry, my intent wasn’t to upset you, and frankly I’m not sure why I wrote the comment. Sometimes... I don’t know. Thank you for the videos and thank you for being you.

[@bearsrodshop7067]

Ok Lyle, here I am 5 yrs later since you shot this , waiting on you, are should say hope you will grade this old Beginner Machinist, on how I organized my newly found Kennedy model 256 (same box you have in this video) box? Been a while since you drop in a comment on my channel, but always love your opions & advice 👍. Thx for recommending going over to Toms channel on same subject, on my way now, July 18, 2023! Bear.

[@mrpete222]

Hello bear. Hope everything is all right in Texas. Everything is pretty good here, except the government, L O L. I am as busy as ever and I suspect that you are as well.

[@MyShopNotes]

Did you ever check the squareness of the old craftsman square? I checked some I had and they were bad. My Mitutoyo is excellent.

[@mrpete222]

I guess I need to do that

[@kknvlewis]

After watching a few of your videos it finally hit me who you sound like. A certain actor from Indiana Pa by the name of James Stewart. Love your videos and his movies!

[@mrpete222]

Thank you. many many people have told me that

[@jballew2239]

Last "copy" I bought of Machinery's , was digital. Still on my laptop. I'm not sure if they still offer a "dead tree" edition..(I have one, though, just because it does not need batteries).

[@mrpete222]

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[@kevCarrico]

great video - AMAZING information - thank you!

[@mrpete222]

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[@markkoons7488]

Darn seat belts have a way of catching the spring clip on a six inch rule and flipping it out on the pavement wherever you dismount.

[@lomsomesGarage]

I got the 902 pouch when I took it that sweet to see it in the book

[@mrpete222]

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[@jmegown52302]

Your 3-piece set, center punch, mag pickup, and exacto knife set are marked Musco. The founder of Musco Lighting in Oskaloosa, Iowa, Dr. Jim Drost, was my son's Industrial Technology professor at William Penn University.

[@MikeBaxterABC]

That's the exact size box I had when I first started! :)

[@royalcrown7180]

Do you know if it is possible to remove the plastic handles from the drawers of the craftsman toolbox in part one by chance?

[@mrpete222]

Do not

[@royalcrown7180]

@@mrpete222 Thank you for the reply. Merry Christmas.

[@jake501967]

You have to use silver oxide batteries in digital as (took me years to figure that out)

[@rustyaxelrod]

Just for the timeline, I was born in 1961, at that time Dad worked for NCR in Dayton Ohio making all those little parts inside a cash register. By the time I started school he had been laid off (more electronic models were just beginning) and he went to work as a carpenter. Leaving his 8 drawer Kennedy box in the basement. By the time I was 15 or so, I was enjoying auto mechanic work and Dad gave me the box to keep those tools in. I kept some mics and calipers but really didn’t know what many of those tools were for, the rest went in a cardboard box in the garage and disappeared at some point. After four years in the Air Force, I found myself working as an Aviation mechanic, out of state and on a vacation trip, Dad brought me that box and a few tools, I remember I had spilled a bottle of Indian Head gasket shellac in the top and made a mess. I used that box for about 20 more years on the job but it fell of the back of a flight line tug one day and was ruined. A sheetmetal man said he could make a new one easier than repairing it. I replaced it with a very similar Craftsman 8drawer with the brown wrinkle finish,as you pointed out only the lock was different. I used that one until the company decided to supply our tools a few years ago. I’m looking at it right now, in my garage, with too much stuff in it to pick up and 3 other large boxes to keep it company. That box (and it’s twin) have been part of my life for a very long time. I’m looking forward to retirement now and like you, I’m guessing it will be in my estate sale 🙂.

[@mrpete222]

That’s quite a history on those toolboxes. I have had the one original box since I was about 16. My dad gave it to me. I remember that Indian head gasket compound, boy could it make a mess. A smashed tube of permatex Was also pretty nasty.

[@rustyaxelrod]

mrpete222 - yes sir, I got my license in the 1970’s but I like cars from the 1950’s, it was common to use shellac on those old parts with sometimes poor fit. That stuff had time to set up before I found it had leaked, the bottle was glued in there with the label facing up is why I can remember the name brand. It had a profile picture of an Indian on it. I had to finally chip it out with a hammer and chisel. Dad passed a few years ago and I wish I had kept more of those tools, I don’t do machine work (between the military and aviation jobs I did work in an automotive machine shop for a couple of years rebuilding cylinder heads and using the equipment involved in that) but the precision measurement stuff has been a big part of my working life.

[@rustyaxelrod]

mrpete222 - excuse me for rambling (if you even see this) but are you aware the Starrett company was bought by Snap-On? I attended a class sponsored by Snap-On and I gotta say, many were still of good quality but I wasn’t impressed with some of the brand new tools we had in the classroom.

[@gregjordan8060]

Half the fun for me is searching garage sales and flea markets for good quality American made tools!! Just yesterday I picked up a old Dayton electric company machinist tool box that I'm quite positive Kennedy built, exactly the same, 30$

[@mrpete222]

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[@larrysnell9934]

Thanks ... enjoyed your logic ...

[@P40BTomahawk]

Mr. Pete, I tell people that the little brass knob on the square is how you adjust the bubble, some fall for it.

[@mrpete222]

lol

[@kknvlewis]

I've always lived by the theory, you can borrow it once but if you ask again YOU NEED TO BUY YOUR OWN! Also it occurs to me that the Craftsman boxes have brown felt and the Kennedy's have green felt.