CASE HARDENING Surface vise jaws

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This is part 2 of a 2 part video class on CASE HARDENING steel. Also known as SURFACE HARDENING or CARBURIZING. This process allows you to surface harden low carbon/mild steel such as 1018.
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[@dsmith7455]

Mr. Pete, yes please do a video on heat treating. We love how you teach and demonstrate.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@kevinmaiorka5370]

I'm in favor of more heat treating videos. If you need a sponsor for some tool steel let me know and I'll gladly buy some for you.

[@imdeplorable2241]

Ditto.👍

[@bodhiderrick3515]

sorry to be so offtopic but does someone know of a method to get back into an instagram account?? I was stupid lost my password. I would love any help you can give me

[@flynnleonel2658]

@Bodhi Derrick Instablaster ;)

[@mkegadgets4380]

I would love to see a series on heat treating and annealing. Go in depth as much as you want...

[@ptonpc]

Seconded

[@gotj]

@@ptonpc Thirded

[@stanervin6108]

Farted!

[@awashbowler]

Please make more videos of heat treating processes in the home shop!

[@2manymodels]

Really enjoy the heat treating videos Mr. Pete! Please make more.

[@wayngoodman5889]

Mr. Pete, I’d watch videos of you sweeping the shop floor if you made them... especially if you’re mic’ed up! Keep’em coming, sir - you really ARE my Internet Shop Teacher!!

[@mrpete222]

Thank you very very very much

[@ElliotNesterman]

Chris from Australia (youtube channel Clickspring) has an excellent short video on case hardening using only materials that would have been available in Ancient Greece. It is part of his series on recreating the Antikythera Mechanism. Here's the title of the video: Antikythera Fragment #4 - Ancient Tool Technology - The First Hardened Steel

[@alexjax6164]

Nice. just linked the same video.I should have read the other comments first ;)

[@gravedigger1960]

You must have been an excellent teacher. Something you just don't find that often now days. The students you taught were very lucky to have you as a teacher !

[@mrpete222]

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[@QuebecLimaCharlie]

Great video! I would be interested in more, especially examples of what happens when you do it incorrectly, e.g. over shooting the temperature when doing it by color.

[@chinglishenduro]

Even though I wasn’t/ ain’t a good student all my life, I really enjoy your teaching on YT. You Sir, is a gem for all of us! That part about searching in Hanley’s cracks me up, a lot!

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@stxrynn]

I got a Henley's back in '83. I sat and read it for hours. Very interesting book. I learned what dentifrice was!! Thanks for the memories and the instructions.

[@artszabo1015]

Thank you Mr. Pete. I watched both parts with great interest, as with all of your videos. Art

[@mrpete222]

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[@jacquespoirier9071]

this is very useful for about any serious home machine shop.

[@joemccarthywascorrect6240]

It is fun to watch some of your earliest videos where you lament how long your videos run (some things never change!) yet they are under ten minutes long.

[@mrpete222]

lol

[@AmateurRedneckWorkshop]

You make the videos on any subject that comes to mind and i will watch them. 👍👍👍👍👍

[@mrpete222]

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[@vdubjunkie]

"Can you get that at K-Mart?" I truly love how you are "stuck" in time. I mean that whole-heartedly. Thanks for continuing to share your knowledge with us!

[@mrpete222]

lol

[@brucetuckey7909]

Good morning Mr. Pete, Good video and information on the science of case hardening. Keep on teaching you may dead that horse some more.

[@johnalexander4356]

I learned this skill in my Jr. High shop class when I built a muzzle loading pistol, start to finish, in class! I still have that pistol and taught my grandson to shoot muzzle loaders with it. Thank you for the class. And a special thanks to Mr.Smith whom I'm very sure passed long ago!

[@mrpete222]

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[@scottjones7279]

You are NEVER wasting my time

[@123232ism]

I love the fact that you are not afraid to get a little oil on your hands. I am from the days where you checked the oil in your car engine by wiping the dipstick between thumb and forefinger. If you couldn't see your finger, you changed the oil; if you could, run her another couple thousand. Never had an issue, ever. Sorry if I seem cantankerous, but I am.

[@mrpete222]

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[@MDAdams72668]

Funny how now man students graduate high school (and often college) without basic knowledge of how metal and wood can(and cannot) be used to create things. I was in the last class(in my high school) that even had "shop" classes I learned more in my metals, woodworking, and electronics classes that I still use today than many people will ever know about these "basics" So sad. Thanks for being here to help educate our youth.

[@angelramos-2005]

Excellent video,Mr. Pete.I´ll like to mention two things.First thing is about quenching deformation because of the heat shock.Second thing is that as compared to other case hardening methodes that I´ve seen ,the piece plus the hardening mixture,both go into the oven in one take and after heated they go to quenching .There is a video in Antiquitera(not sure the spelling ) that tells you how they did it several thousands of years ago.Thank you.

[@dougmacqueen1679]

A somewhat similar method of hardening the outer surface cast iron has been used by the Corliss Safe Co. Since cast naturally has a very high level of carbon in the mix, none has to be added. It had to do with how the iron was cooled. Instead of pouring the cast into a sand mold, steel molds were used. Well I think they were steel, but for sure they were metal, which caused the metal to cool very quickly. This caused the outer surface to be quite hard to prevent drilling, with the drills available at the time in the 1870's. The resulting metal was called white cast iron.

[@ravenfn831]

What an amazing and informative video. Makes me miss my Grandfather on my mother's side. He was a woodworker and made jewelry cabinets and some fancy furniture. Had so many tools and tricks. He worked for Martin Aircraft for years and during WW2. He developed dementia and died when I was 14 in 1984. Would have loved to work with him and learn his craft. Keep up the good work. I enjoyed everything you talked about. No need to apologize.

[@mrpete222]

Sounds like a wonderful grandfather

[@ravenfn831]

@@mrpete222 that generation, at least with my grandparents, were gritty. They were very careful with money as they had both probably been hungry from time to time. I think my Grandfather made wooden jigs for Martin for them to make the American bomber (b-25, maybe?) Anyway, have a great day.

[@SiRicketts]

Mr Pete I’m a plus 1 from the UK who would love for you to do a series on heat treatment. It’ll be another one of your must see machining fundamental tutorials which your famous for...💪🏻

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@fredohnemus7685]

I found these two heat treating videos very interesting. The first job I had after getting out of the navy was working in a heat treating department of a plant where I worked. I would be interested in more of these videos.

[@junkmannoparts9696]

Mr Pete please do and hope you continue making educational videos for several more years . Also don't worry about wasting our time we enjoy it . Thanks You so much.

[@mrpete222]

I only have several more years of life expectancy

[@junkmannoparts9696]

Will be sad to see it end . I remember my shop teacher yelling Clean up and my last name ///// i know it was you . I waved a hand brush across the front of the furnace and it stunk . Had to share .

[@clairehoy5037]

The method you show is really a combination of dip and pack casehardening where the item is enclosed in an airtight box.

[@bobbyw9046]

No need to apologize about video length - Thoroughly enjoyed it!

[@mrpete222]

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[@Phil659]

More heat treating please! excellent video as always

[@lathammarx1458]

Great video on heat treating, Just like the shopkids, people love fire and explosions.! The process can be used to make cutting tools. But you have to harden multiple times to get the case deep and of course, pregrind the tool so that only light hoaning is required to touch up the edge. Of course, when you regrind the tool is toast.

[@prsearls]

All of your videos are so interesting. I particularly enjoy your witty narration and explanations.

[@mrpete222]

Thank you very much

[@randyhertzberg7549]

I was one of those who took , literally EVERY shop class available (I was just the right age that could have been in your class) Wish you taught in Kankakee. I later went on to a community college to get more welding and metallurgy , YUP , that Tempil diagram is still in my reference library. OH , by the way I'm still welding , 49 years now . I love the way you teach and explain things , even though some of it is review for me. Such a shame that young people don't have the educational opportunities that I (we) had.

[@mrpete222]

Thank you for watching and commenting. Yes, the decline in vocational education is very sad

[@lesmaybury793]

Always interested in hot metal and alchemy sorcery. So, yes please Mr. Pete, your extensive wit and knowledge imparted by moving pictures will be most welcome and don't worry about the length of them, we don't have to watch them anyway 😉😁.

[@mrpete222]

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[@Siskiyous6]

MrPete, Lyle, your videos are the only one on the internet that describes the processes so well that I can actually replicate them in my home shop: A shop I do not believe would have grown or evolved into such a useful space, or with the Journeyman skilled carbon based life form in it, without you! Please keep making long videos with actual usefulness. I am sorry if they do not make you rich, but Lord as my witness you enrich the world. Have you considered an Anthology? A USB drive with all your videos on it is something I would pay for! My alternative is to pay a software company to buy their product and use it to download all your content. Paying you is a much more attractive idea. a PS to a long post - I love my T shirts from you!!!

[@mrpete222]

Thank you very very very much for a heartwarming and encouraging comment. I do have anthologies, I called them compilations available. They are all showing on my promo videos from time to time

[@hatersaywhat8986]

Yes more videos, I broke my favorite flat head screw driver and ended up grinding another flat, however when I went to use it, it broke instantly. I would love to reclaim my old friend

[@jefferyjohnson5421]

Fascinating. Another great video Mr. Peterson. Thank you.

[@christurley391]

There is a description of many of the ingredients used for case hardening though not a detailed recipe in the older machinery handbook. Thanks for the video.

[@mrpete222]

Thank you, yes I did read that in preparation for this video

[@allanmartyr2961]

Not to take anything away from Mr Pete. I have learnt a lot from your videos and using in my little workshop at home here in Australia. Click spring has a video on case hardening files he’s made himself. And also has a recipe for the powder he used. Clickspring the First Hardened Steel. Thought it might be interesting. Love your work Mr Pete. Keep it up.

[@mrpete222]

Seen it

[@wbradburn8871]

Excellent set of videos! Would definitely be interested in more information regarding hardening/annealing/tempering...particularly of hacksaw blades for use as marking knives.

[@ohmbug10]

I too like that finish. My HS shop teacher asked me to carburize mild steel in used motor oil. It was what was available but worked...and yes the other kids were mesmerized by the smoke and fire.

[@springwoodcottage4248]

Fabulous and enjoyable continuation of the 1st video to show the beautiful results of your studies and labor. Thanks for sharing!

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@johnyoung7794]

About a thousand years ago while attending a technical collage I took 2 semesters of metallurgy. We had an "always hot" caldron of cyanide salts at our disposal. when our mild steel high school projects reached cheery red and quenched in a salt brine a very pleasing color case hardened finish was achieved. Mauser military rifle actions were case hardened.

[@mrpete222]

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[@dugwthree]

I did that in high school. Made a 2 jaw puller. Have it and use on occasion 50 years later

[@tobyw9573]

Beautiful swivel jaws! I'll have to watch the video where you made that. This Old Tony has a beautiful machinist vice where the usually cast-in end of the vice is a square piece that swivels and has 4 different purposed sides. Interesting as well, since you could make the vice from stock of perhaps half the thickness of the one-pice body.

[@philthompson3415]

Thanks for sharing! You are the best metal shop teacher I ever had!

[@mrpete222]

Thank you very much

[@ddddyliu]

Thank you Sir, it‘s both educational and recreational to watch your videos!

[@domdipyatic3997]

I would love to see more videos on heat treating and annealing, also making springs.

[@jamesbornman5556]

One of my favorite videos

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@RealDeanWinchester]

I would love to see more heat treatment videos. I'd be interested in differences between quenching fluids, time and temperature to reach different hardnesses for different alloys. Spring steel tempering would be great also. This was a great video ☺️☺️

[@mrpete222]

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[@ExStaticBass]

I would love to see more videos about hardening. It's something I've tried to figure out on my own to limited success but never really had a reason to study. Thanks for taking the time to show us this.

[@briannemec9214]

In shop class,, 1961, I made a scroll bender. We case hardened in a small gas fired "box". Cherry red and into the carbon stuff and back into the gas fired box. Then the water dip. The box was also used to heat a large copper soldering iron. Used that iron to solder parts we made out of tin cans. Parts were made using sheet metal layouts techniques. I made a water sprinkling can. "In the old days" we were taught how to use our hands and minds more. We had auto shop, wood shop, electrical shop and metal shop. I even spent a week in Home Ec. made a great cinnamon roll cake.

[@mrpete222]

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[@tpobrienjr]

Two great videos! My high school was too small to have a shop class, so I have had to learn a lot on my own. Did not learn much about metallurgy, but I am learning it right here! Thanks, Mr Pete.

[@mrpete222]

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[@lroyson]

This is great info. I'm just like your high school students. You have my attention with fire and hot metal. I would like to see more of this type video. 👍🏼

[@larryleek2030]

I have about half of a half pound can of Kasenit that I used when I was doing gunsmithing some years back. Haven't had much need for it lately, though and don't know when I might again, but I have it anyway. It always worked well for me.

[@100yojimbo]

Excellent follow up to part 1 , keep up the good work Mr Pete 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@imdeplorable2241]

Thank you so much for these 2 case hardening videos. I learned a lot. Probably because it is so interesting to me. Great videos, again.👍👍

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@terrystover7365]

I truly do enjoy your videos and this one was a good one. I wish I had had you for a shop teacher; you're a good one buddy.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Very good job on case hardening. I now have an oven and can do some of this also. Thank you for sharing the process.

[@ryanpelz6964]

Would love to see more on heat treating. Thanks for sharing all the knowledge.

[@bigmotter001]

I also vote for a heat treating vid or two. Thanks Pete for all you do for us and take care!

[@parkerackley133]

Yes, please do make more videos on heat treating of metals (all kinds, not just steel). Coloring and etching metals would also make a nice series. I was reading the 1917 copy of Machinery's Handbook on coloring metals - it reads like the Henley's book for unobtanium chemicals.

[@mrpete222]

Yes, chemicals we never heard of

[@doubledown187]

Of course, you deserve a thumbs-up, c'mon! :) - I'm very interested in more heat treating videos, even if not a lot of people will watch them. I promise to watch each of those at least three times. ;-)

[@mrpete222]

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[@renaissanceman7145]

ALL of your videos are interesting and informative, I learn something new every time.

[@mrpete222]

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[@jerrywallen8327]

Would love to learn more about heat treating. Loved both parts on case hardening. Thanks

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@awizardalso]

I learned how to heat treat on another video on KZbin. I use a small charcoal grill mounted on a V-shaped stack of bricks and use a fan to force air up through the bottom vent in the grill. I heat the metal parts in the charcoal to red hot, then quench them in used motor oil that turns them black and rust proofs them. Then put them in the oven at 250 degrees for 1/2 hour. and let them cool off.

[@RalfyCustoms]

Excellent series Mr Pete, I thoroughly enjoyed them all, from making the jars to surface hardening Please make more Sir

[@gregwitkamp5583]

Really like your videos , I had wood, metal, and auto shop in High School in the mid to late 60’s with great teachers . its really a shame that they have deleted that for many years. just in the last few years there starting to bring it back.

[@mrpete222]

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[@PaulSteMarie]

This has been one of your best series ever! It's a topic near and dear to my heart, and the more you want to do on it, the more I'll watch. So, the reason that I'm really interested in this entire process is that it provides a functional finish on a part, using not-too-horribly dangerous reagents and you can get beautiful parts this way. Actual black oxide finishes are way too dangerous to attempt in a home shop; even the medium temperature processes are still running very hot lye solutions. The cold blue finishes just don't seem to be very effective, and I'm a bit concerned about the selenium in them. The classic case hardened finishes using charcoal and heat seen like a total win for the home shop, with parkerizing perhaps a second. The thing I really want to try is color case hardening with charcoal, which I believe you do pretty much the same way as this only seal it up in an stainless full envelope.

[@mrpete222]

I am so glad you liked the video. And yes, it is a very interesting process

[@nicholasbell4263]

I wish I had half the knowledge this man has I watched his videos in high school shop class and my kids are now you have taught millions I'm sure mr. Pete your one of the real superheroes of our time. Who else can say they have taught all over the world!! ? Love from maine

[@mrpete222]

Thank you very much

[@warrenjones744]

I like heat treating and do it on occasion here when required. But I will watch more if you make them. I might learn something.

[@dennisleadbetter7721]

Hi Lyle, a very interesting pair of videos. I guess all of those sorts of products have always been expensive. I loved that encyclopedic manual you have with all those safe ingredients and recipes. How things have changed. Regards Dennis

[@larrystrayer8336]

Heat treating videos would be highly welcomed.

[@alangliniak9514]

Thanks for these videos Mr Pete. You are a wealth of information. I kind of followed along on this project and cribbed some of it to build the replacement jaws for my Wilton Bullet vice.

[@scotthaddad563]

Mr. Pete, thanks for the video! I have done a little research of my own on this subject and a modern (home brew) method is to use a mixture of bone and wood charcoal and some recipes add charred leather. If done without much exposure to air you can get some colors as well.

[@mrpete222]

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[@jstutzman1301]

Thank You for the videos, I appreciate the time that it takes to make them. I really do enjoy your videos.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@theradarguy]

Somewhere I read that walnut shells were used for case hardening. Just a comment for record. Thanks for the videos.

[@allanpowell7208]

Hey Mr Pete, good stuff.Keep on.Do you know how much you are part of peoples' routines these strange days? Please do some heat-treating videos,your stuff is always a handy reference. Cheers

[@markschenher2201]

That was time well spent, thanks for the work you put into this production

[@mrpete222]

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[@timeflysintheshop]

Yes I would like to see some more videos about heat treating. You have the furnace, you may as well use it for some more videos!

[@danbreyfogle8486]

Another very interesting video, thank you for taking the time to make it. Loved the air whistle at the end by the way.

[@mrpete222]

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[@geckoproductions4128]

Outstanding video series, thanks

[@offyouselfsbuddy1683]

I honestly love his videos!! I had a really good shop teacher who was also the AG teacher as well, (never took part in AG), but I'd of traded him in for Mr. Pete any day!!

[@jcknives4162]

I too would like to see more on heat treating. I suspect case color hardening is out of the question but I would like to see it.

[@jonrhodin5875]

These videos were great. I defintely would like to see more on heat treating steel.

[@mrpete222]

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[@mpccenturion]

Thank you Sir. I am a student of all mechanical. I am 60 but plan to be around for 33 yrrs more. More things to fix!

[@mrpete222]

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[@OleGramps53]

Enjoyed this and would like a refresher course on the other metals as well please if you have the time to do it. Thank you for passing on you knowledge for metal working.

[@almorassi]

You can place the piece inside a larger box, filled with coal. The box must be closed to maintain the internal atmosphere with a good level of carbon. The ideal is to leave it in the oven for at least two hours, to form a layer about 0.3 mm thick. After half an hour, the layer is no more than 0.05 mm.

[@pyromedichd1]

Thanks fort another great video tutorial. With regard to other methods of case hardening, The Machinist's Third Bedside Reader has a good story with information about color case hardening with Bone Black. essentially burned, ground bone meal, which can be made at home or purchased ready made. I believe it is used as a colorant for dyes. I'd sure like to see a project about making a steam (compressed air) whistle similar to the one at the end of your video.

[@pecker556]

This is very useful video series, and I hope I make good use of it soon. Thank you.

[@billmoore2493]

Please continue making this type of video. You are preserving knowledge we have let slip away.

[@pavski]

Haven't wasted any of my time hahaha I greatly enjoy the exposure to things I would never come across day to day.

[@357magdad]

I think it would be interesting to compare how the file cuts and sounds on the case hardened and non case hardened pieces.

[@heronvontremonia9975]

of course i want to learn more about hardening. one of the first of your videos, i remember watching, is the one about hardening you filmed in the school workshop.

[@phillipjones3342]

One step in front of the other keep it up buddy we’re out here watching and listening thanks for sharing your knowledge and the videos

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@tom87pate]

Yes sir Mr. Pete, we'd love about heat treating.

[@derekcollins1972]

That process would be great to use on garden tiller tines or hoe blades. Keep up with the great videos. Always sharing and waiting for new ones.

[@DigitalVideoFromOz]

Yes, would really enjoy more vids on heat treating, etc!

[@patrickcooper1526]

Thank you for the awesome information! I am very interested in heat treating also.

[@dreadnaught2707]

I once read in a model engineering magazine that it was possible to do case hardening (at least to some extent) by using sugar. Sugar has a high carbon content that transfers into the first few microns of the hot steel. I've never tried it myself though.

[@canuckloyalist4681]

Would be very interested in more heat treating AND tempering.