MACHINE SHOP TIPS #77 Cutting a Dovetail on Bridgeport Mill Part 2 of 2 tubalcain

[@firebugeater]

Excellent videos, Sir! I'm currently enlisted in the Marines. I can't wait to get out and go to college to get a degree in mechanical engineering, and hopefully have my own machine shop some day. I'd be a liar if I said your videos haven't inspired me just a little, and they've damn sure taught a ton. Thank you.

[@Aviator1000]

Sir, you are a testament to your profession. Thank You for all your dedicated time and patience and also for sharing your knowledge with us all.

[@boblor2484]

I looked at this video to get info on cutting a dove tail, I have had the South Bend cross slide stop for years and never used it until last week, it does speed up the threading.

[@mrpete222]

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[@Gouchybear1]

Mr. Pete - My father was a Master Chief master machinist in the Navy during WWII and Korea (he served 1941 - 1965) and there was nothing he could not make from scratch or repair. Your skills remind me so much of him. I love your videos...keep up the excellent work!

[@mrpete222]

Peter Pan THANKS YOU yet again.

[@MrBlindbird]

mrpete222 :-) some people ey ? ;-)

[@tho54107]

Sorry , I stand corrected. I learn something everyday. mrpete222 has the skills to repair/ modify all sorts of situations I could not. Noticed this last week when the cnc malfunctioned and was pointed in the direction of the 50 year old mill(never broken down) in the corner of the workshop to carry on the urgent work. After a few mishap's I'm back to watch the clip again. Learning everyday with my big portion of humble pie. . . . . P.S. The " Modern CNC mill" is still awaiting the critical/ hard to source/ expensive PCB before it can turn another cog!

[@crookedriver2079]

anne thomson I'd bet you your YEAR'S salary you couldn't make one of these with a hacksaw and a jewelers file in 2000 min, let alone 20 min, especially not to the tolerances given by Mr. Pete in the video. On most forums you would have been roasted alive for making such a coarse and arrogant, not to mention dunderheaded statement. In fact I've never seen a worse comment on PracticalMachinist, Chaski, Homeshopmachinst or Homemodelenginemachinist !! I was floored! Lucky for you Peter Pan seems to have already run you through or I'd set you on fire, as you so richly deserve! Why don't you get a job! Got one already? Get a second and a third one cause you have WAY too much free time on your hands. And while you're at it, do something about correcting your problem of talking about things that you don't know anything about !!

[@mrpete222]

John Tee THANK YOU very much for your kind support

[@LowCountryCamo]

As usual, the best information on this subject I found on the web . Thanks!

[@ClownWhisper]

It still amazes me how much mileage I can get out of your videos how much enjoyment. I can watch these over and over and still enjoy them. Your tips with transfer punches has helped me with so many projects that I can't even count them. Every bit of important knowledge that I've gotten over the years regarding machining is due to watching your videos it's become a very enjoyable hobby and it keeps me from being sanitary in my disability... You have given this world an abundance valuable information which would have been forgotten in our generation had you not done so. I wish I had money so I could join your Patreon groove I just don't I am stretched to the limit financially. I had been making a specialized tool that I was selling on eBay but it became too much for me with my disability and I had to stop doing it but even that was due to your tutelage

[@mrpete222]

Thank you so much. You made me cry.

[@lastmanstandingwtsht]

thank you for another great video . I have been watching them in order since number one . You have done such a wonderful job with these that I had to hook my computer up to the big screen . when ever a question comes up in our work shop I tell my son " go make some popcorn and we will see how Tubalcain would do it " Keep them coming thanks again

[@ericed69]

Gen 4:22 And Zillah, she also bare Tubalcain,an instructer of every artificer in brass and iron: and the sister of Tubalcain was Naamah. Thank you Tubalcain, these videos are great and very informative. I have learned so much and some of what I have forgotten. Again, thank you.

[@dougspair]

Clever little clamp. I have no mill, and only a tiny old Craftsman lathe (yet to be set-up) but I like to learn new stuff everyday. Between you and Keith Fenner, plenty of ideas. Years ago, at an auction, I paid $1,500 for an old Gerstner wooden machinist chest full of 'stuff', brought it home, it contained about $25,000 worth of Starrett and Mitutoyo machinist inspection gauges and one of those planer gauges, very pricey. And sets of those die-transfer screw marking punches.

[@bigshawn1360]

I have used a thread stop similar to what you made here. Back in the 80s when I ran manual's. When I retire I'm going to pick me up a mill and lathe for my shop.

[@tanner3801]

I think you could have gotten along with my grandpa. He also went by Pete, and he did some machining as a hobby. Thanks for the video, it was very useful and pleasing to watch

[@mrpete222]

+Tanner “tannerb” Bean Thanks for watching

[@mrpete222]

@littlestworkshop THANKS--can I also make play lists for the views of my videos? Or must they make their own?

[@turftone]

you always make the the most useful videos! this is just one more accessory i need to make for my southbend 9" seams easier than trying to remember what number i stoped at on the cross feed. i'll probably put a thumb screw instead of a hex head set screw since i already have too many allens sitting on my lathe table during regular use. great video thanks again!

[@GK1918]

Another excellent job! I write this for those SB people without the royalty of a mill. Many yrs ago mine is only a 3/8 upsidedown " U" tightened in the provided hole then two wing screws on the botttom two legs (to re adj. to pick up a thread) for external threads. For internal treads I remove this collar and simply use a long screw in the provided hole I back out to "touch" and mearly adjust screw till it hits the dial housing. (internal thread stop) works perfectly

[@MrBlindbird]

Thx for your time and effort to upload this vid MrPete,myself,being a litle lazy,just painted 2 lines with a marker next to my compound as refference points when threading,thinking every single time...there must be a better way,just to forget about it again when the tread was finished. With this,i now have a new litle project looking forward to to finaly make that 'better way' :-) Have a nice day sir :-)

[@MrJoeGarner]

This is just what I needed to see. I'm about to cut some dovetails and make a few tool holders. Thanks MrPete!

[@VEMWMIKE]

Awesome! I want to build a quick change tool post for my Logan 200 lathe. This video is getting the cogs in my head rolling. Glad I subscribed some time back. Take care and keep em coming

[@YourAnonymousGuy]

thank you for uploading, it means a lot for us, the young students, helps us understand better. Have a good day !!

[@guidetomachining]

Hi Mr.Pete your Skills is amazing, Im really glad you made this video,because im in the process of making a custom head for the back of my bridgeport so i can mill wood with it, this video of yours is PRICELESS thanks for posting.....

[@dadmezz4024]

Thank you for anther great series! Glad I had the opportunity to take shop classes along with typing, homec, and photography in junior high and high school...the kids are missing out on great opportunities to direct and select their futures and to help make the nation great again ....with all the pc automation etc available now, it would be a great game for them to be in a skillful mechanical equipment field...keep up the great work teaching and enticing kids into these skills....both young and old.

[@mrpete222]

+sammy mezzacapo Thanks for watching

[@somorastik]

Very nice video! Keep them coming. I am watching these just to remind me of my shop back at home.

[@BasementShopGuy]

LOVED it. Looking forward to some videos with that new South Bend ;-) I would REALLY like to see one other TAPER video. A video that shows how to turn a taper (between) two different diameters, like that in a lathe's chuck key. Perhaps another project series video - making a chuck key. Since this is a project that SO many people need to perform. Thanks again for taking the time to share your knowledge.

[@turbinedoctor]

Thanks so much for the dovetail videos. I learned a great deal and cant wait till I get a project to use it on.

[@havebenthere]

Always enjoy your videos! I was surprised you didn't use the DRO on this project. I use my 3 axis DRO almost all the time. I think I'm addicted. Thanks again!!!!

[@RightOnJonCrane]

Thanks so much for all of your videos. This series was great. I am interested in cutting speeds and feed rates on the milling machine, and on the lathe and drill press. If you ever wanted to do a video on that it would be much appreciated. I am sure you get a lot of requests. Thanks, Jon

[@jamiebuckley1769]

another great video mr pete i learn alot from you and really enjoy your teaching manner.im going to make one of those for my 1939 16 inch southbend lathe. 8 months ago i purchased a 9x49 trump mill its a bridgport clone and i have a fair bit of tooling and also 5 or 6 dovetail cutters so im all set. thanks again.

[@mrpete222]

+Jamie Buckley Thanks for watching

[@outsidescrewball]

Great video, I made one for my clausing, but cut the part and then use a bolt to pull the halfs together so that the dovetails lock on the male dovetail.....you mention in you video that you shouldn't remove you part from the mill vise until you know it is correct, but if the part is set up on parallels and bumping a stop, there is no reason the part can't be pulled for fit or inspection

[@countrycraftsman5110]

Always enjoyable. Always useful. Always leaves me wanting more.

[@mtnviper1963]

I have one of those planer gages new in the box but, in thirty one years of machining I have yet to find a use for it. I mainly bought it for nostalgic value. I just remembered...I did use it once to set up the blades on my wood planer so, I stand corrected, it does have a use...lol.

[@mrpete222]

@CRANEDRUMS I will cover that eventually--its kind of a hard topic.

[@aryesegal1988]

Mr pete you're the man! :] thanks for all the effort!

[@lodhiautos9761]

Congrats on your excellent demonstration.

[@danermer2955]

So much easier to see it in use than understand the paragraphs. Thanks, and Happy Thanksgiving.

[@wolfeman28]

Watching this makes me appreciate my CNC mill even more.

[@mrpete222]

@littlestworkshop That's a great idea--didn't know it could be done.

[@mariocortes1337]

Yes and yes I'm agree this is a very vocational and technical teaching . congrats 👏

[@nurfays123]

Thanks Mr. Pete, your timing is uncanny! I just happen to have a dovetail project coming up and I've never done one in metal. Looking forward to seeing the castings you mentioned. ;^)

[@tansit2344]

Makes me appreciate manual machines more, I get so tired of CNC even with CAM.

[@ClownWhisper]

how in the world did I miss this this is ingenious what a simple solution. I do a lot of single point threading if I'm doing a project I know it's silly but I make all my own screws all my own fasteners unless for some reason I want to use socket head cap screws for one reason or another. I guess I just enjoy single point threading. After a while I get where I can spin that dialing laying read on the money every time but still this is a great solution

[@mrpete222]

👍👍👍

[@ClownWhisper]

@@mrpete222 Mr Pete you have to forgive my incoherent typing it's because I use voice recognition my fingers don't do well for typing because of a neurological issue I don't know if I've told you about this before I tend to repeat myself and I'm very paranoid about my situation. So when you see a paragraph that don't make sense or words in that paragraph that don't fit please understand

[@themainproblem]

Nicely done and I really enjoy your videos. I wish that you lived next door. Respect from Apache Junction, Arizona.

[@GK1918]

Keep up the good work, keeps us old ones watching excellent professional vidios. I had a little different approach, didnt have a mill back then, did it all on a shaper then slit it vertical on one side with 1/4 20- glued brass to its Vs then when tightened it gets pinched, so the width of the dovetail is not critical works for me. May have been done before i dont know.

[@NIGHTWATCHERUK01]

Excellent videos as allways ....looking forward to 2012 and your offerings

[@embarrbarry6833]

Good stuff. Your voice brings Paul Harvey to mind.

[@skateboard4zero]

Climb milling with a dovetail on a manual!? You're a mad man! :P

[@VEMWMIKE]

I had a heck of a time finding this video again. I was looking for making a thread stop tool but the video is not listed as such.

[@mrpete222]

+VEMWMIKE Thanks for watching

[@mrpete222]

@jae878 I just use 30w non detergent

[@nickfox6339]

Very good video and tutorial Mr Pete please keep up the good work.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@MrUbiquitousTech]

Great video Mr. Pete, looks like that's a really handy tool!

[@andregross7420]

Have you thought about thermal expansion and contraction on the ways where the stop rides ever getting rich on very hot days?

[@jae878]

@mrpete222 I watch all of your videos and look forward to seeing new ones. I have learned a lot. I have a south bend lathe, I think it is a nine inch but it seems to have an extra spacer under the head and tail stock??? However, I have not had much luck in finding the correct oils for the gearboxes on this. What do you use for the sae 10 and sae 20 oils and where is a good place to get them? Thanks again for the great videos.

[@MrJoeGarner]

Check with Grizzly.com, they own the rights to Southbend now.

[@wanderlepre2125]

Cool video man. Hugs from Brazil.

[@easyboy1950]

Great Video as usual. I spend hours, watching your videos. Thanks.

[@mrpete222]

+Blueman Thanks for watching

[@gordonagent7037]

Sir, I really enjoy your tutorials and this is another good practical addition. I was wondering if you have posted anything about cutting tools for your milling work that I could watch or you might consider adding. The reason I ask is because I am a novice, tooling is expensive and sometimes the range on offer can be overwhelming. Is there a suggested Basics Kit we should look at. Along with the different tools to be used some speeds suggestions especially for different steels as a guideline. Many thanks, Gordon

[@mrpete222]

+Gordon Agent Gordon--I cover most of that in my video courses. I don't have any youtyube videos on that right now. Thanks for watching.

[@notmycupotea]

Hi Professor, wikipedia seems to say the opposite for climb milling? wiki seems to show when climb milling the chips fly toward the direction of travel? does wikipedia have it backwards or am I just confused?

[@GibsonLesPaul120]

Excellent videos, they have helped me a lot. I had a question about your planer gauge, do you have some dimensions or a basic sketch for it? I am somewhat interested in making my own. I hadn't seen such a thing until your videos, seems pretty handy.

[@WildoTheRubberFist]

thank you for your videos. Its to often people take there life time of knowledge they work hard to learn and don't pass it on.

[@musaross8177]

Like Blueman said "Great Video as usual".Thank you very much!

[@mrpete222]

@littlestworkshop Yes-I would like that--THANKS. pete

[@rodrigoacosta5533]

hi pete thanks for the videos, I need to know which paint is used to draw the materials. thanks and greetings from Argentina

[@hoarp001]

How do you know what size dowels to use to get the measurements in the right place relative to the angles?

[@jeffiscool1805]

Isn't that the relief you cut, as on the Aloris tool holder, a VERY important measurement sometimes? Like on a piston tool post tool holder for example. Great video and a very useful tool.

[@christianlewis7055]

How pleasant to watch and listen.

[@johnspargo5876]

Hi Mr Pete thanks for the video. why do you climb cut and conventional? Surely there is an advantage one way or the other. Regards JS

[@swamphunter1530]

Hey Pete . Try using a adjustable parallel instead of the bulky planer Gage.

[@metalmorphist]

Another good one. I think I'll try one for my little Smithy Granite.

[@AnthonyBonaviso]

Awesome job Mr. Pete. Where we're you 28 years ago?

[@whittm10]

Sorry, nice tip, I like the way you do a final cut to do a "spring cut" climb milling - a nice finish - and accurate at the same time!

[@ruppi42]

Hi Tubalcain,I have a question: which spindle speed did you choose for cutting, using your dovetail cutter? I didn´t get this information from your video nor could I find it in the comments.Many thanks in advance , Armin from Germany

[@tallswede80]

what are those pins for? Do you need them to measure it? how do you know what size pin to put in there?

[@ardvarkkkkk1]

You can put the part back in the vise very accurately (within tenths) if you do a few things. Square up the block before starting and replace that Bridgeport vise with an angle lock. Also, use a stop.

[@doughall1794]

Pete, I love your videos, How do you cut a dovetail in steel without blowing up the cutter? I want to rebuild my lathe tool holder from steel and worried about destroying my dovetail cutter.

[@mrpete222]

SLOW FEED< LIGHT CUT< OIL

[@doughall1794]

mrpete222 That worked, lathe back online.

[@Wheeled_Fighter]

Looks like I'm in for a bunch of work when I start making lathe tool post holders. I may have to make one of these gadgets as well, just in case I ever need it.

[@DaveDonaldsonLive]

Oh my god, you just taught me how to make a tripod plate for a camera. Ty so much

[@mikeadrover5173]

As always, thanks’ for taking the time to make this video! And I support this site. ~M~

[@mrpete222]

+Mike A Drover Thanks for watching

[@eliasdiseno1]

great work on the machining and tutorials..

[@GK1918]

Dear Mr Pete, I in no way wrote that in defiance I enjoy all vidios It was only to reach those without the means of this operation. I too had a mill got rid of it just tooling puts one in the poor house. I make Doves all the time only with machines of my time, cheap HSS tooling quiet 110vts takes no space yes a shaper. If I could only do a vidio of this amazing machine. I even made a milling att. for mine. Wish you could do vid. on a shaper. My cam only does 10 sec good work sam

[@PisTTasha]

what feedrate should i use when we work on 4142 (42cd4) and 1045 (xc48) steel , thanks

[@paulinmt2185]

This is going on my 9" model A. Thanks!

[@mrpete222]

👍

[@decadence18]

its sad, this is a rapid dying art, I enjoy watching you and Mr. Keith Fenner

[@sharkdezil2917]

In re: 5:32 People think we have 10 fingers because if we loose a few we can use the others.

[@themrb007]

Do you use a Compass and Square?

[@richardrogers567]

Thanks, Mr Pete.

[@bubster1981]

Great project, one of your best! and ive made alot of projects aswell where i have underestimated material left once drilled n tapped lol once that hole goes in there im like yikes!

[@fluffybunny8274]

Seeing the words Bridgeport makes me sad compared to CNC machines today this is like an old lost art love it, still want to buy my first milling machine just to put in the garage with the rest of my tools and us it as a hobby

[@mrpete222]

+Fluffy Bunny Yews--it is sad-thanks for watching

[@yelltube]

how many rpm when milled dovetail?

[@johnbewick6357]

Hey Pete, did you know your video of dovetail cutting has been used by DIC Tools on YT to promote their dovetail cutters.

[@jeffryblackmon4846]

This is a very vice project that will be very helpful. Thanks.

[@mrshoeguy2477]

I think it's very virtuous.

[@MrGoatflakes]

y u no put a link to the first video in the description? o.o

[@Xtinnoker]

Good one Mr Pete, Thanks.

[@FredMiller]

Thank you Mr Pete! Nice afternoon project.... fred

[@mrpete222]

None that I know of. Possibly buy new or better used dials on ebay.

[@tonypike5785]

Thats great, thanks Mr Pete.

[@neilbrown3359]

what's the rpm's at?

[@phillhuddleston9445]

Good video, no offence at all but the way you speak reminds me of the 1960's instructional reel projector videos I used to watch in school.

[@mrpete222]

thats because I played 100s maybe thousands of films to my classes over the years

[@phillhuddleston9445]

That would explain it. Bet you were a very good teacher.

[@stephenguthrie1789]

Phill Huddleston The Gambrell somebody after Santa Fe miles or something I don’t know where your Rea

[@timtynan2787]

Nice work. It's good to see a trade's men

[@ronaldcrowder404]

Absolutely awesome!!

[@dragman377]

Yes, I'm gonna make one of these too !

[@mrpete222]

+Danny Echols yes, give it a go

[@HansPeter-xl7dm]

Excellent video. Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge...

[@theseldomseenkid6251]

Learned a lot. Thanks.

[@MoseleyJaguar]

I missed the last part. Who's signing out? I may have missed it. I had my hands full, and something around my neck at the time.