This FREE UNIT Is TOO STRONG | Havoc Rover CN Analysis

[@anagramhound]

Of three HMC, one must pay a price. I'm looking at you, Hydro MC.

[@bandi642]

hydro mc so bad in the last cinematic, aether stayed in dendro

[@sleep_deprived_Satoru]

what a trashy character they did hydro MC dirty >:( dendro MC alll the wayy :D

[@0v_x0]

💀

[@wittawinjiang1198]

The fact that at talent level 4 her ULT have 900%++ multiplier is crazy

[@HuH22132]

Yeah insane I know

[@M_night69420]

I love stronk mc

[@YinlinsPuppet]

Genshin MC could Never

[@TakoGod69]

literal nuke 😂

[@ucngominh3621]

you know future unit will be crazy powercreep since mc have high mutiplier

[@NeFlorence]

Man, so many units that looks so fun to use. If only I had Echo exp to build them.

[@dominicmccalden3107]

Havoc rover is one of the easiest to build at least due to how cheesable dreamless is ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@NeFlorence]

@@dominicmccalden3107 No I have a shit ton of Crit Rate and Crit Damage Dreamless echoes. But fuck all Echo exp to level any of them lmfao.

[@novatm13]

Fr, its my biggest qualm rn. I can’t even full +25 my Jiyan. But i guess its fair, since echo farming is free it only makes sense the exp to level them is locked behind stamina usage.

[@sasato8966]

aalto playstyle is goat

[@chinnerchilla]

6 days into the game btw, you will get there with time like any other game

[@LionheartMindExplosion]

Rover is peak in every way, Kuro wanted to make a statement and they did 🔥🔥🔥

[@RudeXII]

The fact that no one is even considering running jianxin with havoc MC is insane. The setup for the nuke is crazy, she can solo sustain your HMC, and technically you can even run the 4pc healer set on jianxin with damage rolls and still get the benefit while having a unit who shields, heals, and crowd controls. Jianxin is crazy underrated right now because everyone is stuck up verinas butt

[@More_tefi]

Up, this needs to be more recognized and tested by theorycrafters

[@Accountthatexists]

I mean just overall in total danjin with havoc dmg bonus is better then having slightly higher Ult dmg

[@ryoujiarisato7308]

I cleared tower up to the lvl 90 stuff with that setup. Ran mc basically just for the ult + echo burst combo.

[@Clodsireenjoyer-bc9cd]

W Jianxin enjoyer

[@Guns-R-Us_]

like sure, but this is only relevant if you don't want to pay close enough to the enemies to actually dodge attacks. People have looked at the numbers, and you lose so much damage in exchange for the comfort that it's worse than using Zhongli in Genshin. She can work in a lot of teams but if you're struggling to clear in time because you're underleveled or have dogshit echoes, Jianxin isn't going to solve that problem. Jianxin needs an ult-based Yoimiya who gains a ton of damage from not being interrupted during the attacks, that's the only way she gets any respect from TCs. Unfortunately for her, Calcharo can afford to dash hits, so she'd need someone like him who has all their damage at the end of the attack string similar to Encore. Otherwise, strict DPS loss compared to the time it would take to dodge attacks -- especially with Danjin whose damage increases compared to normal n3e3 spam

[@gabrielpinheiropaiva9022]

Rover is probably the strongest mc in gacha's recent memory ☠️ Holy shit Edit: yeah I know Harmony MC exists, yes Harmony MC is a complete powerhouse, but sincerely, Havoc MC breaks the logic of "if it's a free unit, it's probably mid" beyond what Harmony MC did, and Harmony MC is a beast. Basically, if Harmony MC did did what he did and does, Havoc MC breaks (SUPA BREAK) the limit even further

[@0kaiKai]

Old gachas still exist and pretty much remembered. And Rover as MC is nothing in comparison to Singularity of the Sky Realm.

[@Hhhh22222-w]

Not the same thing, old gachas were ass and not 3d ​@@0kaiKai

[@0kaiKai]

@@Hhhh22222-w old gachas have gameplay, new ones are just new form of taxes

[@gabrielpinheiropaiva9022]

​@@0kaiKai yeah they exist, that's why I specified "recent memory". In HI3, Kiana is basically god, so yeah, old gachas give a heartbreak to Rover, but for our recent gachas, Rover is the Terminator

[@0kaiKai]

@@gabrielpinheiropaiva9022 weren't we talking about gameplay? Kiana had strong battlesuits since HoV, but her being a Thanos does nothing with gameplay.

[@dstroyar5426]

During their "Dark Surge" state, all their basic attacks are REPLACED by the Forte Curcuit scaling, so unless you plan on having them hog field time, levelling Havoc MC's Basic Attack is VERY low priority imo

[@jeremyngo7606]

So the basic attack substat does not help when she is in dark surge?

[@Yakuson1196]

​@@jeremyngo7606No, OP means that the basic attack multipliers in dark surge are affected by your forte circuit level. It's still considered basic attack dmg though so basic attack substats apply.

[@dstroyar5426]

@@jeremyngo7606 No, they are still considered basic attacks, but all the scaling is from levelling her Forte while in Dark Surge.

[@amari7782]

@@jeremyngo7606no they just mean level the forte not their actual basic attack

[@byDariusABrown]

Y’all really don’t see how hard this game is about to get at higher world lvls…… the mechanics about to do a full 180 bro be happy the MC is strong.

[@isenn4231]

I can't take it anymore. I'm sick of calcharo. I try to play jiyan. My calcharo deals more damage. I try to play lingyang. My calcharo deals more damage. I try to play encore. My calcharo deals more damage. I want to play verina. Her best team has calcharo. I want to play baizhi, jianxin? They both want calcharo. He grabs me by the throat. I synthesise for him. I cook for him. I give him helios cleaver. He isn't satisfied. I pull for jiyan's signature. "I don't need this much heavy attack dmg bonus" He tells me. "Give me more energy regen." He grabs verina and forces her to throw herself off enemies. "You just need to funnel me more. I can deal more damage with lustrous razor." I can't pull for his r3, I don't have enough asterite. He grabs my credit card. It declines. "Guess this is the end." He grabs his broadblade. He says "deathblade gear, get them." There is no hint of sadness in his eyes. Nothing but pure, resonance liberation damage. What a cruel world

[@nirvanthakuria3030]

The mc is too hot man

[@duvad124]

I feel like pokke talks way faster than he used to, sometimes it’s so fast I can’t understand him and I’m a native English speaker.

[@DG-mk2nr]

I got both Jianxin and Havoc MC to lv60, good weapon and full golden echo with similar crit stats. And MC doing 2-3 times more damage than Jianxin is making me regret the dps Jianxin investment lol

[@jamesonnguyen1124]

Makes sense considering jianxin wasn’t designed to be a main dps! But hey you’re clearing content comfortably:)

[@bonkbonk98]

jianxin is sustain and 38% ult buff

[@aria.e]

In all gacha games, MCs are very weak and never worth using, not this one it's a fresh breath of air.

[@Cciigt432]

SUPA BREAK

[@Zero-zr6xx]

SUPAH BREAK JUMPSCARE

[@siapayaaa8269]

SUPA BREAK TRAILBLAZER

[@danhenglunae-yv7zg]

hsr harmony mc is a monster atm haha

[@Hhhh22222-w]

​@@danhenglunae-yv7zgcompared to other version of the mc and some units but they dont compare to dhil, jingliu or acheron, havoc mc is low key better than jiyan

[@chaselewis5372]

Wonder if Jianxing would be solid in the Havoc/Danjin shell. The shield she provides is solid and they both have very damaging ultimates she can help provide buffs for. In general, been pretty impressed with the comfort she can provide some teams.

[@Sanjuro333]

Running Danjin and HMC. Every button is a nuke.

[@vegitoblue6969]

i use 2 crit rate dreamless and one crit damage crownless with the 5 star wepon nukes above 30k every time goes over 40k ult nuke with supports.

[@vegitoblue6969]

i use jian xhin which poki did not mention. she boost ult damage by a lot.

[@lucassa5083]

​@@vegitoblue696938% deepen ressonance liberation dmg increase is insane.

[@RustyBarry92]

Nobody mentions her, but a 40% ult damage is strong af

[@lucassa5083]

The 38% deepen of ressonance liberation dmg increase is insane

[@zero31123]

Using 3 boss echoes and wasting the 2 echo slots is just not worth it. If you want crit damage it’s easy to roll it on the 1 cost echoes. You’re giving up all the atk% from the 1 cost echoes and 10 possible substat rolls. It’s a massive downgrade from the 44111 setup.

[@wel004]

My havoc mc can deal 38k burst on lvl60 with a 4 star weapon really hoping that the sword comes early

[@truenod138]

Ive used all my resources on the havoc rover but got incredible rolls that i am 48 crit rate/252 crit dmg. It does INSANE damage

[@kevinlandrini6799]

bro i spent 400 dollars. have all 5 stars. e1 jiyan and his weapon.... i still use havoc mc and sanhua as a team lmao

[@NotAnirban]

Rich people problems

[@Haki291]

I feel like most constellations in this game are a nothingburger

[@vldt5934]

Thanks for supporting the game 💪

[@nah131]

thanks for funding the game

[@0v_x0]

My casual cope method for using Danjin is to sacrifice time (I'm not doing tower yet so this prob doesn't scale but rn I only care about overworld and bosses) for comfort by charging her tacet circuit halfway while building concerto, swap to Baizhi and charge up a couple heals and her concerto meter, outro/intro into Danjin with the buff, fill tacet the rest of the way, use crownless echo into fully enhanced attack for heavy atk buff then outro to HMC. It breaks rhythm and uses basic attacks to build concerto at times so takes longer, but for untimed fights it can take some pressure off.

[@c4ptfr0zen80]

Hilarious that the 5 seconds Danjin is on screen that she misses her ult and then dies lmao 5:07

[@naufalsyauqifillah6388]

The wuwa discussion is more heavy then hsr discussion for me i think 😂

[@girlysoap9031]

since the game doesnt play itself theres more to consider

[@amari7782]

@@girlysoap9031yea hsr is literally just numbers soup like most turn base games so what is there to really talk about

[@Frou-hsr]

The 4-4-1-1-1 config is not talked about enough. For a sacrifice of only 7% damage, you can skip on the only truly problematic part of Echo farming - the 3 score units

[@setsuna7618]

honestly for dupe system, people in this game should just call it W1,W2,W6 because Waveband = dupe system. Using Eidolon kinda ehhh

[@deedee3355]

Idk, but looks like farming echos is not that hard to aim full set even at this early, considering we farms a lot harder in GI and HSR 😂

[@lawrencepauljimenez7859]

Not video related but the echo drops on bosses have been patch, no? There was a small update that I got and when I tried farming for boss echoes especially the dreamless one, ive been getting less and if it drops something its almost all 4 star rarity

[@XenoeJin]

Bro randomly speaking in fast forward, I had to rewind multiple times to hear it again xD

[@Angelo-rg5ew]

Man the fact i changed last minute from jianxin to encore in the guarenteed banner and now they say she is good with mc while my mc is my main dps be like 😢

[@brycy8024]

If you think about it. Every standard character is free due to the compensation

[@flame4627]

i just wanted to say, wtf is wrong with youtube. i was watching this while playing wuwa (listening in backgound) and when i tabbed back to youtube there was a topup saying "still watching? video will be paused soon" after i clicked yes it said "subscription confirmed". is this how they unsubscribe me from people randomly? fuckin scumbag of an app... thank god im using twitch more often now

[@luripu]

Uses all my Free Standart pulls + currency after getting Verina from pick up banner to get the 5* Sword. Now my H.Rover is ready to rock.

[@Starrky923]

Ah yessss... The very relatable refinement 5 on 4star weapons week 1

[@zeru5195]

I straight up didn't think about running a 4-4-1-1-1 echo set-up until this video for early game, thanks for that tip.

[@thefox1799]

Main Character DONE RIGHT!!!

[@dopanimetv]

Eidolon? I thought it was Constellation! 🤣

[@nickh4354]

that dreamless swap showcase was truly mr pokke putting his best foot forward lmfao

[@marcus5737]

Crownless Echo buffs your rover for 15 seconds. Without high amounts of energy regen you WILL NOT have a 20 second ult meaning dreamless just falls off harder and harder. Crownless is also a gap closer and will automatically target boss/enemy weak points like weekly Turtle bosses legs. Dreamless is good for a fight that doesn't last longer than 20 seconds and even then does 102% more havoc dmg than the crownless IF you are always waiting for ultimate otherwise it does LESS, and dreamless does not buff your character. How is it even a contest or considered. Any kid with a calculator can see how bad dreamless is outside of a 1 rotational nuke

[@Tom67Slick]

Doesn't feel that strong to me, most casual players have havoc rover as a second team with subpar echoes and weapon, any dps can be strong with maxed out gear, these kind of videos really demoralize casual f2p players

[@byeguyssry]

Hey Pokke, I think you made a minor mistake. At 13:07, the CN graphics seem to show that the priority is Forte -> Liberation -> Skill, but at 13:24, you imply that the priority is Skill -> Forte -> Liberation. Even though a large amount of the damage is coming from Skill (15:40), upgrading the Skill only upgrades the damage of the skill outside of Dark Surge state. The damage of the skill during Dark Surge state can be increased by upgrading the Forte Circuit. Hence upgrading the Skill is much lower in priority than the other two abilities

[@_an1s_]

19:02 only 7%??? That's crazy i though dmg is massive if i didn't use 60% elemental dmg on 33 cost echos So from now on I'll build my characters with 1 crit rate 1 crit dmg cost 4 lol

[@emperman]

I'm sure they'll start adding character specific echo sets eventually cuz with how simple these 1.0 sets are you'll build current and all future units inside 3 months max lol

[@hadmos855]

21:29 if you have Jiyan and mortfei then this is actually a downside. You build Danjin for one team only while you can build Sanhua for many dpses

[@Apollyon47]

this is oot, Am i the only who think every character in this game is very useful, no matter the star? i rarely feel this way in other gacha games.

[@ancyaahhschmancy5328]

I using set full atk with 1450 atk at lv 40 with 17 cr and 177 cd and she can dealt ,7-8k per ult without crit .

[@iMythum]

Harmony MC is BIS with Havoc MC. Now she can SUPABREAK everything ;)

[@Griffon14]

Main character as supposed to be

[@maliceMizair]

SUPAAAAA BREAKKKK

[@Izumi144]

Bro they should introduce a feature that can change mc between male and female i like male mc for strory but for combat and exploration i want the female mc (the guy who chose male mc😂)

[@nepturnal6325]

I managed to get 3 diff standard 5 star weps within 50 pulls (sword, pistol, and rectifier), and I might just opt to get another sword copy on the selector tbh for both havoc MC and sanhua.

[@arvzg]

wtf was the correction at 6:25 "alright correction UAGUIWAFAFSAO but whatever"

[@hlebvladimir726]

I swear, it would have been too perfect if HMC had a shotgun

[@JotaroKujo-fr7uo]

I’m litteraly stuck with comfy early set so hard to get a second good 3

[@randomicplayerwei]

YESSSSS so glad sanhua is HMC best sub dps (at least for now), because i got her S3 😀😀

[@marclenraymagdaraog691]

I highly recommend people to use DANJIN instead of Sanhua.. mainly because you get actually better if you use Danjin.. I kept using her with Havoc and now I barely need a healer in my team. If you wanna play safe equip SWORD#18 oon Danjin cuz it gives her Extra HEals whenever you cast a Heavy attack at low health. basically puts you above half HP. so you can go full demon mode again.

[@amari7782]

I’m only using sanhua right now cuz I don’t have rover at the stats I want her to be and I had sanhua invested into before getting dannin

[@christophermauro-barias7451]

why all the league refs. im all for it but he doesn't post any on here lol

[@queda5331]

why cant i use my built havoc rover in illussion arggghhh?

[@Juanni]

2:11 doesn’t hsr and genshin’s weapon banner soft pity also start at 65?

[@nyx4074]

I like Havoc color as element. At first, I'm hesitant to invest on Havoc Rover because ppl keeps recommending Spectra Rover over Havoc Rover. But now I'm sure I'll invest on Havoc Rover.

[@bandi642]

i only heard good things of havoc and spectra falling off as a good support to the amazing 4 star subdps like sanhua and mortefi

[@harshpandya7834]

Who said spectro better than havoc 💀💀💀 With the dreamless echo, the mc is one of the strongest dps in the entire game 💀

[@aratabhist]

​@@harshpandya7834 they kinda are at cbt2, but the changes of the sub dps outro from buff %dmg to %deepen kinda throws the balance a lot.

[@nyx4074]

@@harshpandya7834 Because Dreamless tech wasn't a thing couple days ago. And as aratabhist said, it's based on CBT2.

[@rubic7447]

I built Encore with 60/190 crit ratio. It's like watching the world burn. 🤣

[@TK_Entertainment]

is mortefi not even in the running of good build mates with them like i think the heavy attack spam and even skill usage at e1 morty e2 mc goes pretty well together

[@safeandsound6299]

It meant to be because in some story, rover might have to fight alone

[@KulaanX9369]

league brainrot

[@henryalburquerque6331]

what if I wanna use him with jianxin and another carácter that is like a sucrose or sw (general damage amplifier) so no vecina or baizhu?

[@amari7782]

Danjin and San hua are going to be their best buffers next to taoqi

[@bandi642]

does someone know if havoc mc ult boost other characters dreamless, for example if i ult > dreamless into danjin + dreamless?

[@TheSinOfHeart]

used to work but was patched apparently.

[@michaelblue4619]

how tf does this guy have so many sanhua and danjin LOL

[@spark9_]

Havoc MC is so good that I'm regretting pulling on Calcharo

[@amari7782]

Me who got him off the first beginner banner against my will, bro was benched immediately

[@umbraeros]

Cant believe this game named the havoc mc ability after me

[@northofmainstreet7281]

I got so many weapons on my beginner pulls on my alt account...

[@kyotheman69]

2:04 weapon banner is 100% for standard not 50/50 only characters are 50/50

[@JotaroKujo-fr7uo]

Finally a Mc that’s op in and outside lore

[@ieatwalnut9088]

there is soft pity? i got things on hard pity so i was skeptical.

[@chaschas]

Bring back the “Devs listened” thumbnail

[@MapleYum]

Definitely going to build. I like Jiyan but can’t get him a decent weapon or Mortefi. I have a ton of good swords for Rover and Danjin/Sanhua.

[@ST1mAPB]

What a people are talking about. It's extremely difficult to get any 4* for 3 characters, besides ATK sword from the box. S5 4* or S1 5*, while we are at ~33 union level of 45 needed with only stamina and dailys to get exp. I was hoping to get atleast 1 4* weapon for Verina, but got 3 def broadswords and Jiyan's broadsword only (not pulling for Jiyan, so good job wasting all this pulls) And from standart banners i got only ATK broadsword and DEF broadsword, so my only good weapon is ATK sword from the starter box.

[@blkk92]

Why did you pull on weapon banner then?

[@ST1mAPB]

@@blkk92 because I'm stupid? Because I had 3 broadswords, sword from the box and no other 4* weapons

[@ST1mAPB]

@@blkk92 ofc i should just wait, but i was kinda anxious for weapons from getting only characters and 2 broadswords from standard pulls.

[@hadmos855]

20:25 anyone knows which echo is Sanhua wearing here?

[@christophermauro-barias7451]

0:56 i have not completed the story.

[@Harukinkk]

Finally! Strong protagonist in gacha game 🙏

[@notsync202]

How to unlock her eidolon 2?

[@queda5331]

"and also.. aboba" valid points.

[@yuugael4010]

I forgot I've pre-watched this good video nonetheless

[@spice2688]

2:10 Soft pity starts at 70 in this game

[@tringlos-zv6sl]

Where do you get the 2nd Waveband?? Thanks!

[@alifetu72]

Casket exchange at level 8 or 9, cant remember exactly 😂

[@XxLightTerrorxX]

Thank you for the precise and clear cut analysis!

[@M_night69420]

Im so surprising dat they made amazing

[@Borovski213]

Man people out here running with their upgraded MC and here I am waiting for the weekends to have time to play and progress

[@pinkpanda187]

When do we unlock havoc rover?

[@-Maruku-]

Finish the main story.

[@fullvoid6663]

Why not Jinxian as Support? She groups enemies for Rover to nuke and her Outro buffs Rover's ultimate.

[@zeraddbakuha4057]

Her buff isn't team wide, you'd be losing your subdps buff with you use jianxin

[@fullvoid6663]

@@zeraddbakuha4057 I am using Jinxian as my sub-DPS and Verina as healer/support. It's Verina outro into Jinxian outro into Rover ultimate.

[@fullvoid6663]

@@zeraddbakuha4057 Jinxian is my sub-DPS, or rather I use 2 supports. Verina Outro into Jinxian Outro into Rover ultimate

[@zeraddbakuha4057]

@@fullvoid6663 this makes more sense then, verina or baizhi are irreplaceable since their buffs are team-wide.

[@skolpionek4848]

because while ult is huge nuke its not rovers strongest source of dmg, basic attacks are

[@thoorie]

Soft pity in Wuwa starts at around 50 Pulls~

[@Dr_Smash]

What's most wild about this is they're a PURE dps and offers no team utility outside of S4. With Genshin and HSR, the best versions of MC are those that offer great team utility (Dendro & Harmony) and the worst are those that focus on damage. Kuro really making a statement with this unit.

[@saiavabel6076]

Both havoc and spectro has mini support build in them like res reduce and decent heals on spectro and time pass

[@hriata168]

The stronger they seem the less i wanna play them, idk why I'll just keep going Unga Bunga with Calcarrot

[@advendra6078]

There is no soft pity in this game. My b5 pulls are all at 80x

[@Borovski213]

WuWa 🤝 HSR Releasing a busted MC for free

[@saiavabel6076]

Thats really good tip for early game 4-4-1-1-1

[@dr.strange1300]

Spectro sweeps @me