$1 vs $2000 Miyabi

[@fadicrafter6090]

Rip Ellen 1.0 - 1.4 Powercrept before her first rerun 😭🙏

[@mckickz665]

Lmao

[@nat6lbg440]

No one is surprised to be honest

[@fadicrafter6090]

@@nat6lbg440 Yup, I saw this coming from a mile away. I specifically skipped Ellen and started saving for Miyabi just like many others when the game first released.

[@siddharthuniyal7757]

I am using ellen, soukaku, miyabi as a team and it worked well

[@yaemiko9969]

@@fadicrafter6090 she's not powercreep because Miyabi belongs to the void hunter category which is different from the limited 5* category

[@AristineSilvanus]

That Miyabi vs Ellen comparison is diabolical

[@JinWoo..]

That's actually just sad, can't imagine what ppl who whaled on Ellen are feeling rn

[@Flare8124]

@@JinWoo.. Anyone who whaled on a 1.0 character should have known this was gonna happen lmao

[@justjuniorjaw]

@@Flare8124 Meanwhile : Zhu Yuan chilling a tier above Ellen when they're both 1.0 character.

[@nkoonkukoo]

She going to be the first limited s rank to go non-limited at this rate.

[@-Him--]

@@justjuniorjaw just wait for a new limited either dps and it will be the same for her

[@JinWoo..]

Kinda funny how M6W5 only saves you like 15 seconds even though u spent 2K$. I was lowkey expecting 10 seconds ngl 💀

[@-Him--]

Facts and in 1 years time we’ll get characters that will put this one to shame

[@NobodyMr-s6t]

It’s gonna be a cons bait if that happens

[@justjuniorjaw]

We already got Billy clear in 1 min. Going from Billy to Miyabi can only get so fast.

[@elynna2483]

Display card is the real sale of mindscape

[@_elynas]

It will save way more once hp inflation kicks in. Still not worth it though, m2s1 is more than good enough

[@mckickz665]

162 percent crit lord have mercy on the etherals

[@freebox_ASC]

No.

[@jonnevitu4979]

totally not the c6 effect ellen relying on her charged atk for dmg nope... imagine using them smh

[@Lumiphatom]

You are supposed you use her charge attacks when she is at M6. Either way, at best you can get is about a 50 sec clear in a Ice resistant content. Which is not bad.

[@rimuru_slime1634]

compared to m0 character? nah that's sad

[@Hhhh22222-w]

​@@rimuru_slime1634 the shiyu buffs miyabi a lot tho, shouldve tested on bosses

[@rimuru_slime1634]

@Hhhh22222-w sure but when i spend 1k on one character i should be better than every other 100$ character no?

[@lexxxie_52004]

@@Hhhh22222-wWith or without Shiyu buffs, a 2000$ character is always expected to significantly outpower a lowly invested character. Otherwise, they are just trash just like Childe compared to Neuvilette.

[@yourannoyinggoose]

I think it's important to note that Ellen's kit with her mindscapes is designed to diversify the many ways she deals damage. M1-M2 is crit value enchancements with shortcuts to her enhanced ex specials with M2. M4 is an energy and flashfreeze shortcut. With M6 focusing on making her charged scissor attack the biggest nuke of damage in her kit. With Miyabi her kit becomes a sub DPS to a main DPS with M2. M4 is a ultimate energy generation mindscapes with increased break damage. And M6 makes her biggest nuke damage she has the easiest access to her basic attack as damaging as it can be.

[@bewe5473]

Did you just call miyabi sub DPS at m0? Dude my M0 miyabi can clear sinyu SOLO like legit this is my first time getting an S in SD while using 1 team with SOLO character in it. So anyway i don't think she's a sub DPS at all furthermore she's demanding on the field more than anyone.

[@nguyendinhanptcdhn]

did u watch the vid yet😭

[@zensho5814]

Pokke's comments on the stack and Yanagi interaction is the sort of thing I was expecting whenever the leak fanatics started boarding the Yanagi is mandatory train. Miyabi deals so much damage at high investment that Yanagi is a legitimate choice pre-m2. At M2 she falls off considerably in place of hypercarry-focused units. Meanwhile in endless tower, you can run yanagi with miyabi, even at M2 Miyabi because the hp is so bloated that the extra stacks are noticeable. But for Shiyu? no lol, unless your miyabi build is budget even at M2 (aka you dont farm discs)

[@justjuniorjaw]

Heck if you follow any reputable leak tester like leifa, you would know that other teams like Burnice or Lighter were almost as competitive even before all the changes. People just for some reason forced the Yanagi is superior by a wide margin, simply because someone said: Hey free stacks from Yanagi! (paraphrasing)

[@PoyoPoyomfs]

So you are saying i fudged up by pulling for yanagi instead of lighter

[@zensho5814]

@@PoyoPoyomfs pulling yanagi isn't a bad move, especially if you like her. Pulling yanagi just for miyabi is a dumb move

[@kaenakanee]

if u have miyabi m2 u dont need yanagi, u just need fast stun character and the time clearing content is faster

[@sakuseihuoshen]

Why I'm trying to get her to M2W1

[@bewe5473]

​@@sakuseihuoshen m2 means your miyabi would become a hypercarry which means more on field time so you need a fast buffer character Like for ex. Miyabi > Caesar E > Lucy E then back to miyabi. Or if you want to use a stunner then you can replace caesar with lycaon.

[@kaenakanee]

@@sakuseihuoshen m2 gives you 1 fallen frost each time you basic attack till 5th att, this mean u dont need yanagi and u can wait for the next character to replace the same mechanic like yanagi

[@lexxxie_52004]

@@bewe5473So at M2, Burnice/Lucy works better than Yanagi/Soukaku?

[@shotgunshogun4707]

The ellen vs miyabi comparison doesnt work if it's done in a vaccum the way it was done here respectfully. Ellen changes a lot after u get her extra copies compared to miyabi who doesn't change herself but her team synergies do. Plus u gotta gather with ellen cause she has minimal screen coverage (even wirh shark nami ex) so again u gotta play it different. Then there is buff application miyabi literally can just use her shit and fk off no matter what part of her kit u use. U just gotta make sure the buffs are applied when the shit is being used so it's much easier to make sure miyabi is buffed when needed...ellen needs the buffs to be up at all times cause she's a main on field dps that does dmg throughout her entire uptime not at specific moments like miyabi (any anomaly tbh) or zhu yuan for example. Then there is the stagger thing mr.pokke mentioned and thats a can of worms on it's own...basically LL all over again lol. Ultimately miyabi still wins handedly at m6 no doubt but a better showcase that caters to each unit properly would at least paint ellen in a significant better light than this cause atp looking at this you'd think soukaku is a better main dps than m6 ellen which is a bit woof cause even m0w1 ellen is a monster if played to her strengths (no shooting at pokke here...just a general statement). I don't main ellen or whatnot but i do think she got dog piled for fun in this vid. Which is bound to happen tbf...hoyoverse hates their own creations anyways...otherwise why tf is miyabi ice instead of a new element to being with...would've been perfect for the "zzz relaunch" imo.

[@Sleepy_Largo]

Fair but even if optimal play miyabi m0 can be on par with m6 ellen which is the main point here which honestly is ridiculous ngl

[@yII94Kaa]

I can't take it anymore. I'm sick of Hoshimi Miyabi. I try to play Ellen Joe. Miyabi deals more damage. I try to play Zhu Yuan. Miyabi deals more damage. I try to play Assault Jane Doe + Seth team. Miyabi deals more damage. I want to play Lighter. His best team has Miyabi. I want to play Lycanon, Soukaku. They both want Miyabi. She grabs me by the throat. I did my dailies for her. I farmed Shiyu Defense for her. I even shout out loud every day in the street: “Lady Miyabi, please step on me!” She is not satisfied. She grabs her hairpin, throws it at me, and says: “M0 is for weaklings. I want my M2, and as the heir of the prestigious Hoshimi family, I demand my W-Engine. Do better.” I can't pull for her W-Engine and her M2. I don't have enough savings. She hacked into my account and used all my money saved for Christmas gifts and buys Polychrome. Balance: $0. “I guess I’m cooked.” She has 6 points of Fallen Frost. She looks at me and whispers: “Don’t think thrice.” Then she performs her charged attack and obliterates the stage. 6 seconds loading screen, 9 seconds gameplay. In short: Frostburn Icefire anomaly. I look straight into Ellen’s sleepy eyes and say: “What a cruel world.”

[@bertabuanaputra1943]

Yes, that is my problem with Ellen team.. all of them don't really have a "Invincible state" as much as Miyabi team so i waste a lot of time dodging. Meanwhile Miyabi charge basic attack and skill, Yanagi some sequence of her basic and her skill give a total invisible making them Untouchable which giving so much time efficiency

[@Mimic_656]

That’s how the Powercreep starts right now

[@1LEETLAND]

M1 actually is worth it. You should read the description better

[@Jaylou88]

My Miyabi is currently at M6 R2 with $900 invested. She feels better than my M6 R5 Jane which is incredible cause I didn’t think any character would ever get me to switch from Jane.

[@proxydeity6091]

I got her m6 and weapon with around 90 bucks, I just kept getting the bp and 5 dollar monthly then just saved all my gems since day one. My miyabi so broken idk how to use my team properly

[@Jaylou88]

@@proxydeity6091 that’s like the best problem to have 😂

[@lintch]

What does R2 mean? W engine 2 copies? Why R if so?

[@Jaylou88]

@ it’s Genshin terms for “Refined”. Not even sure what it’s called in ZZZ but yea, it’s multiple copies of a weapon to buff the passive buffs.

[@lintch]

@@Jaylou88 got it thanks! Was just confused for so long when I see this terms.

[@TheInfiniteDraw]

If you tap Lucy's EX attack instead of hold it, she does a faster version, instead of using the flyball version. That can shave off a few seconds.

[@Dominik-qc6ze]

Demonstrably good Showcase. Hail Myiabi. Hail Pokke. Hail Avovaboo.

[@reydez84]

nah skill issues still, bro could be faster

[@BeautyEnjoyer]

Avocaboo showcase

[@Puppetmaster2005]

I'm someone who has been playing Genshin, Wuwa, and ZZZ religiously. I've never spent a single cent in ZZZ, and I saved up pulls for Miyabi. Spent EVERYTHING on her.... Got her M2 and her W-engine. Built her up on day 1 (I prepped, used Ether batteries, and I bardic needled Lol) Let's just put things into perspective here. I'm not a skilled player. I was LITERALLY stuck at the Ballet Twins boss on floor 30 of the Battle Tower. My strongest team was Caesar, Burnice, Lucy. Miyabi.................................. trivialized that floor.... and I climbed all the way until floor 48... where my lack of skill kept getting poor Miyabi one shot LOL. Her power level is insane.... this is powercreep on another level. Not complaining though.... Miyabi has been my favorite character in ALL of these games thus far. She was what I wanted Ayaka to be... lol

[@Stanky_Foot]

i mean all your rotations with soukaku were insanely suboptimal (not ending chain attack with ellen), and if you were running her w-engine you weren't even dash attacking+basic to get free 20% crit rate, miyabi still clears but not as hard as your video suggests

[@Osprey1994]

It would be cool to see this in tower where people can always have somewhat of a reference as to how strong a character is. Shiyu is going to favor the banner character. PS. M1 is undervalued. Everyone looks at M1 and considers the damage increase for Miyabi alone, and completely ignores that it buffs the entire treams anomaly build up by an additional 20%. I've seen 1 CC so far who has taken the time to adjust total team DPR for M1 and it was a significant increase. I'm also assuming that the reason they don't test M1R1 Miyabi with M0R1 Yanagi, is because that account probably has a whaled out Yanagi too. 😅

[@xZekQzuneR]

after some months another meta will be release and that $2000 goes really to the 🗑️, this kind of gacha strategy of mihoyo is savage greed, can't argue to those people who is real rich but for most of the players, just play and enjoy, don't pressure your selves. That's my best tip. every update there will be another strong character than before, best animation, best damage, best kit, best looking character than before. Don't fall for the trap. It comes and go.😅

[@bertabuanaputra1943]

I got lucky with getting THREE Miyabi with Rina as extra in 40 pull.. should i go for M6? Actually no, my second team is trash so i'll save for future team combination Note: IM A F2P

[@Wart1076]

remember when Pokke was the no1 f2p? Pepperidge farm remembers...

[@MicrocarpaRutaceae]

I thought she would be better with Lighter at M6, but now she simply doesn't need to stun 😭

[@pipebomb420]

See pokke, the main difference here is miyabi doesnt need to rely on gather because she has a very big hit range unlike ellen.

[@keanesn.1513]

I like the comparison videos

[@freebird8116]

Zenless zone zekiro : Ellen dies twice

[@nimiizuu]

yea bro i have a MOWO Miyabi

[@sukaikitsune]

Ellen..my beloved..😢 (but damn her c2 is so satisfying🤤)

[@jonnevitu4979]

bro really forgor Lucy can just not hold her skill and 10s of an atk buff for miyabi instead of 15s is pretty much enough

[@juan_bm]

THE ONLY zzz creator alive 💀

[@templeknights]

At least Seele lasted a year and some months before she got power crept. Ellen didn't even last 6 months lmao

[@rpgames6922]

She still clears content with less efficiency, not really powercrept

[@templeknights]

@@rpgames6922 if its less then shes''s power crept.

[@DumaVadamee109]

This is why I didn't pull for Ellen, 1.o characters never last past a certain point smh

[@kiwee4577]

Oh shite if I have that M2 I technically have 102/215 crit hahaha

[@dalhaval283]

thats 4 months of salary. daym

[@thepancakethathasnoname7826]

I have a question about the event Mystery of the archipelago like what happened to that?

[@normalpersonlivingtheirlife]

Gone

[@Ziyinus]

It’s in a different tab when you click hollow zero, you could also find it in the events tab by going to the permanent events.

[@ramkindalethal5253]

Nah why u got ellen in the party alone 😂

[@vinnigevinnies404]

am i stuid doesn't m1 give her like 36% def ignore on 6 stacks

[@IdeasAreBulletproof]

Ellen vs Miyabi is parallel to Yanqing vs Jingliu unironically

[@boop9374]

Except yanqing is standard. Ellen was limited 😭

[@justjuniorjaw]

​@@boop9374Makes the pain stronger.

[@RomaNepl]

Guys, what's a good bangboo for a f2p Miaybi/Piper/Lucy team?

[@jamitiong2978]

it should have been 27s if pokke didnt use lucy in the last second

[@elynna2483]

Nobody gonna say there is OWO in M0W0?

[@darko6115]

17:15 Dw, as a m2 miyabi owner I have the exact same thoughts, lowkey regretting not getting the electro stun girl

[@sakuseihuoshen]

Honestly wish I wasn't so busy while Yanagi's banner was out

[@justjuniorjaw]

and boy is Harumasa + Qingyi proving to be one of the most fun, unexpected team combo. You're essentially unloading 2 DPS worth of rotation into one Qingyi stun window, and the rotation is satisfying as Harumasa + Qingyi also feeds into Miyabi stacks during the Stun rotation.

[@pureilluzion]

Is that a good team, Guess I'll try it out since I accidentally pulled fox girl 💀

[@akulupakasihnama]

​@@sakuseihuoshenits not yanagi its qingyi

[@RatchR]

shoulda done lycaon + lighter for that ellen showcase

[@YouG4M3R]

Meanwhile, Billy clearing at 36 sec lol

[@AlexRoy10000]

I need someone to sponsor my m6w5 Miyabi

[@alditocastelo7463]

Whats The W ik M is Mindscape

[@renzalmario2578]

u should try this on deadly assault not in shiyu.

[@upsyedown]

i dont see a reason to pull more than m0 s1 just to clear with 10 secs faster 🤣 just my opinion but it is fun comparing to m2 btw

[@BladeDevil]

the newest deadly assault really shows how absolute trash the previous characters are. especially ewwen.

[@SethUnwell]

Lol, Lighter > Yanagi for Miyabi X ppl were seething when I said he was second best, imagine now 🤣

[@PoyoPoyomfs]

That if you have her m2

[@luongzkao]

ZZZ chap 5 LIVE GOOO!!!

[@Izumi144]

Void hunter vs a highschooler😂

[@kthetornadomaster4330]

I would c6 r5 her if I had the money. Unfortunately im broke af

[@shi-chan5779]

Nah C0 is fine already. Even without R1 she is busted so dont woryy you can play the game longer INSANE

[@arielcabrera1409]

Al gun dia la tendre m6

[@michael36944]

We smarter😂

[@DDomMysterio]

Poor Eweh 😂

[@BeautyEnjoyer]

Avocaboo showcase

[@messyhowling9603]

nah i pull

[@MikeFeldmeierMD]

M0W0 Miyabi is infact not $0.

[@Zolwiol]

But what if I want to play the game?

[@Bluzlbee]

than play it and not worry about shiyu 7 you can have below average discs for story mode and still completely breeze it

[@Zolwiol]

@Bluzlbee it was a joke. I like to have Billy as my anchor even though i have Jane and Yanagi. The game's systems are just fun to play and ending fights in under a minute feels like skipping gameplay.

[@marblebit3213]

Its my favorite neutral whale

[@Jamelon]

Haha mowo

[@jimmyjims3245]

That's why m0w1 is enough just get characters, power creep is real 🫵 😂