Is Liberty Falls the WORST Zombies Bonus Map of ALL TIME?

[@MrRoflWaffles]

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[@A-jax-a7j]

Hey milo for the next video intro can you say hi guys Mr I ate all the waffles here please

[@tylersmith3537]

Its a good map just everyone is just a big baby

[@ZombAssassin12]

The winters howl is the hand job of wonder weapons

[@Richtofens_revenge]

✅

[@FeelMusic_Dennis]

Sad there's no Liberty Balls merch yet

[@Slaquery27]

Watching this after launch and Liberty Falls actually being pretty good is funny.

[@walkdog51]

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[@EhCloserLook]

LF is an AMAZING map. This video is such a huge FAIL, bro.

[@Slaquery27]

@EhCloserLook this was made before the release. They've tweaked it in-between launch and the video being made

[@benperezdracul8881]

Watching it after he accidentally deleted his save on LF

[@Slaquery27]

@benperezdracul8881 I watched the b-day stream and he got a pr on rounds, and I found a clip of him later quitting instead of saving lmao (if that's what you're talking about yeah)

[@odding3472]

ive currently only been playing liberty falls, its just chill and fun. easy to learn and nice to do some mindless playing

[@CAPTAINxHASH]

I've been out of the game for years. This map is good refresher map.

[@EmaX004]

I'm playing it a lot to grind camos, and honestly the vault, trials and all the mini ee's are really cool, It's just a mid map but nowhere near bad

[@WilliamLee-bv4tv]

Same, I honestly don't mind it but it definitely does feel really crowded in 4nan squads

[@callmegary2622]

yeah milo was bias because everyone was hating on it before playing (including me). but once we all started playing it we realized how good the map actually is. if milo made the video now he certainly would have rated it the best bonus map, because in reality, it is. (this is coming from someone who hated bo4, vanguard and cold war)

[@elliotaddler2302]

I prefer it over terminus. I don’t need the game to be over complicated

[@EagleHD]

1. I loved starting with a pistol and working my way up buying more as I get points, I remember in the first few rounds, I'd shoot the zombies legs about 6 times and knife to maximise points. 2. Holding off barriers in the first few rounds, you felt like you're literally stuck in a place and if you were a team, each person would only do their barrier or one more, and maybe even steal someone's kill if you're cheeky. Once one area got hard, you opened up the next area, and someone would be generous enough to open the first door. 3. The characters having a personality, and phrases they usually say time to time, although this isn't essential like we didn't have it on maps like Town etc 4. The maps having a theme and atmosphere, imagine maps like Kino, Nacht, and then Shangri La and Buried, all had their own theme and atmosphere which made them unique, Buried even had its own HUD 5. Pack a Punch actually meaning something, not only does the machine increase your firepower, but a lot of weapons would get a unique feature, like the Cross Bow and Ballistic knives from BO1 could revive downed players, the M16 would get a Grenade launcher, remember in BO3 how you could pack a punch again and get a new ability like the electrocution, or thunder gun like bullets 6. The maps having smaller easter eggs which were just fun, I don't mean the story easter eggs, but like those 3 rocks you collect on Kino and a song comes on 7. I actually love the Nazi zombies theme, the story being about something going wrong by the Nazis when they were doing experiments, this added a feel and vibe to the maps. Rather tentacles and beasts and worms.... 8. Remember when power ups actually meant something? When we were on round 40+ and out of ammo, and we were waiting for Max Ammo. I loved when zombies was about trying to survive until the highest round possible, which took skill and patience, where even reaching round 50 was a challenged, even for good players. There are so many other things that can be said, such as small things like the hacker on moon, you could hack the box and wall guns, and that old mansion in Buried with that maze behind it, where is that creativity gone in zombies?

[@BasicBanger]

Go in with a pistol then?? Tf its custom classes lol

[@Killika]

@@BasicBanger terrible take, if you're playing with others you're gonna get a fraction of the points you should since they'll be killing everything much faster than you.

[@SHADOWsKiTTle64]

nailed it, brother

[@sweetaccord8754]

@@Killika its not a terrible take its a literal fact.

[@shaneog6298]

​@@sweetaccord8754it's kind of like adding easy mode to Dark Souls. It's a no go imo. It has changed the flow of the game in general especially with the new point system, difficulty and lack of barriers. Putting a pistol as your custom loadout doesn't feel the same tbh.

[@zerog52]

“Liberty Balls”

[@DarkLink1996]

Lmao

[@SeekerNo.9]

Real

[@casserCOM]

literally only won over the tranzit slices (best maps for casual play/ 4v4 grief, sit in a corner and talk with the boys while you throw spoiled meat at eachother). Modern CoD is a joke.

[@ZxMate]

Liberty nuts

[@zerog52]

@@casserCOM those were really long parenthesis but fax

[@raspberry7571]

Bro wasted zero time savaging Liberty Balls yet again

[@mcfcguvnors]

Adsense payments just went up only thing im shocked about is no " Mr Beast reaction video " like all them other tools .Bred a generation of bedroom workers

[@OfficialBambii]

@@mcfcguvnorswhat the fuck are you talking about?

[@Richtofens_revenge]

👌

[@rigoxgarcia2854]

@@Nosebump nice rage bait

[@raspberry7571]

@@Nosebump kid, you'll never know the days of BO1, BO2, and BO3. I truly pity that for you

[@DeathByZombieGames]

dude my biggest issue with Liberty Falls is how bland it looks. The other map looks dope as hell but Liberty Falls is literally just day time town with zombies in it.

[@deathghost65]

Would be better if Liberty Falls wasn't even a thing. I havent enjoyed a CoD since BO4 and stopped buying them, but i was gonna buy BO6 just for the zombies. After ive seen the gameplay, im gonna skip this one too. Zombies is exactly the same as CW and gameplay looks too much like Warzone. Devs are trying to get new players in by making it easier and more like Warzone but it just kills off the fans. Zombies just needs to be its own game instead of part of a $70 yearly live-service game.

[@DeathByZombieGames]

@@deathghost65 I mean the other map doesn't have any of these issues I'm not defending activision here but people who say this map ruins the game don't make sense to me cuz like just don't play it if you hate it that much. Bo2 had tranzit and a lot of people hated that map but bo2 is easily one of the best cod games ever made.

[@deathghost65]

@DeathByZombieGames Liberty Falls shouldnt have been a thing because it made people 2nd guess the gameplay of BO6 zombies (or it could've been kept in the game but not been revealed). People wanted BO1-4 zombies, not Cold War/Warzone zombies. I'm fine though, I play on PC so I can go back and play any previous zombies with custom maps. Console players aren't so lucky. BTW, I played BO2 on Xbox360 when it came out, but played it on PC 2 weeks ago and the graphics are significantly better than what I remember (probably because PC has better visuals, but still).

[@DeathByZombieGames]

@@deathghost65 the map is quite literally meant for beginners its just an introduction map idk why people are so mad about its existence just do play it 💀

[@womanlover9919]

Yea because the outbreak just started on that map lore wise the town isn’t gonna get rundown like previous maps who’s outbreaks have been around for a while

[@mrmaestro3043]

If you compare Nuketown zombies to regular Nuketown, it clearly looks more apocalyptic. If you compare liberty falls to its multiplayer counterpart, well it just doesn’t look like Liberty ‘fell’ that much.

[@Sir_Slimbread]

I mean Nuketown got hit with a Nuke so of course it looks Apocalyptic. Liberty Falls literally just "fell", so it wouldn't make much sense to be destroyed.

[@LUCAS420BLZ]

​@@Sir_Slimbread I mean nuketown in Bo6 also finally got nuked but the zombies version had more of a theme to it Even the blackout area in bo4

[@Liquidmetal6661]

Good word play there, 😎

[@mrmaestro3043]

More like Liberty Mild Stumble

[@ZetsuboNoShima]

Liberty falls is literally as the outbreak is just happening

[@owenklaus5944]

The flickering street lights, the church, the abandoned bowling alley, the cracks in the ground, all mattered in town bc it made it mysterious. For liberty balls, they caught 1 bus on fire and called it day. The de-appreciation is real.

[@ctbans]

Even the lights had meaning. THE LIGHTS FLICKERED IN MORSE CODE. Specifically the intersection light in Town

[@mlgdanksmitty9486]

@@ctbansI did not know that nor am I suprised because old zombies has/had legit depth to it. Even a map like Tranzit who was not well recieved has it's charm and you can tell they genuinely thought alot about the design, since they made things that most people wouldnt even recognize.

[@thechemicalking]

What’s even better is the fact that the game costs more to buy now and we are getting less from them

[@FINtr0ll99]

@@thechemicalking How does that work? BO2 released with 1 map and BO6 will release with 2, however shit that second map might be. Here's to hoping Terminus will actually be good.

[@thechemicalking]

@@FINtr0ll99 I’m talking about the effort going into the maps, multiplayer, etc

[@jaringuevara]

now that it’s out i can say that i love it as someone who’s grew up with zombies and actually prefer it over terminus because terminus feels way too open while liberty feels way more linear like the old games

[@MSaleh-vy8rr]

There’s no gritty dark atmosphere in that map. Looks like WarZone map with zombies dropped in it.

[@arieee8732]

I need a SOE kinda gritty atmosphere

[@CHESTNUT246]

same issue i had with cold wars outbreak

[@jacobserperior]

@@MSaleh-vy8rr As someone who doesn't care about Warzone in the slightest, it's disappointing.

[@ratofthecity6351]

@@arieee8732 i feel like SOE didnt really have much of a "gritty" atmosphere and that it kinda ruled because of that. its much more vibrant, jazzy, and bloody, and i think those things make it unique, fun, and interesting, without needing to be "gritty"

[@KennyCarson-cl1ck]

@@ratofthecity6351yeah not gritty but something unique, man I miss old zombies.

[@InvictusYT1]

Why do they keep catering to Warzone/Multiplayer players in Zombies! they can go play those gamemodes instead of having to give zombies fucking armour, scorestreaks, salvage and fucking custom classes.

[@ShadowSlayer1323]

Because zombies is niche and doesn’t get enough players as the other modes, be happy we even get zombies anymore

[@SANDMAN_7]

Because zombies is forever changing if they dont bring in new players the game mode is gonna die out

[@weebier7745]

Cry is free

[@spiraale5278]

​@gxtodd While I agree that zombies ain't a "niche" in some perspectives, he has a good point on how it doesn't get enough players in, and there's a reason why bo6 zombies feels like MWZ. It's because you are.gonna have every 2023 player transition to Bo6 and a lot of them are used to mwz mechanics minus the grindy scavenging systems I think treyarch is moving forward and doing it right because they are experimenting and trying to build new aspects within zombies because if they kept listening to us then we'd be playing WaW at high graphics with zero game changes.

[@weebier7745]

@@gxtoddit’s not though the zombie player base has always been extremely small compared to literally anything else the only ones zombies beat are nightmare and free run

[@dukezap1]

Classified over The Giant has to be a crime.

[@BaldTorment]

I mean the Giant was just Der Riese but without the grittiness and two side easter eggs, classified added new areas, added the shield, and made the player stronger so anyone can just hop on and have fun on it

[@MasonicKryptonite]

Fun Fact about the bonus maps in BO1: The zombies mode from WaW was forbidden here in Germany and a couple other countries, and outside of importing an Austrian version there was no way to play zombies here. At all. BO1 changed that by finally having a version of the maps without swastikas. Everyone I know, including myself, preordered the prestige version the second they heard it had the zombies mode included. I still don't regret preordering that game to this date.

[@attmd]

W lore

[@beedozer7286]

Nightmares looks more like zombies than liberty falls 💀

[@FreedomHero4]

Nightmares is so fucking boring tho

[@cadenphillips4235]

I hate that this is true on a spiritual level

[@Korwt]

@@FreedomHero4 it may be boring but honestly this looks way more boring

[@matthewcallaway7331]

@@Korwtno it doesn’t night mares was horrible and so was bo3s campaign stop trying to say that just because this is new and all yall like to do is bash on new things cod does nightmares sucked and this at least Is still round based zombies and not just some weird campaign mode this will definitely have more replay ability than nightmares I’m calling it at least for me it will

[@lm_slayer1]

@@Korwtjust stop, you people are beyond over-exaggerating, it looks pretty oppressive in the higher rounds

[@megasweetness9353]

3:54 WOAH WOAH WHAT IS THIS SLANDER?!?! "Won't Back Down" has to be among the top 3 most fitting easter egg songs for the map it is activated in. Also just a banger song on its own.

[@josegarcia5486]

I thought I was the only one who was like “what the heck Milo? Unnecessary red card”

[@joshpowers3315]

Stans

[@KiLLaBushWooKiE]

Old games embarrass newer ones. The atmosphere music sfx are superior. How they couldn't zombiefy liberty balls with 3/4 yr game cycle is a joke. Make it dusk bloody more messed up. I wish the custom modding community made the content.

[@lopeshick9607]

You look at a single screenshot, even without the HUD, of a WaW-BO4 zombies map and you automatically say “ah that’s zombies gameplay” even if you don’t like the game or map, it was automatically recognizable, zombies was its own thing. This just looks like “generic shooter the game, but with zombies in it”.

[@bread6235]

@@lopeshick9607 EXACTLY. new zombies has zero feel to it. you can immediately identify what is zombies gameplay from older games. maybe it's because the last cod i bought was MW19. but literally every single cod from that point on has looked the exact same. everything just looks like warzone but either with or without zombies in it. it's soul-less slop

[@kelvin4910]

​@@lopeshick9607nah take bo4 out wtf, you were a baby when it came out and you're still too young clearly

[@GhostlierCube]

@@kelvin4910 You can hate Bo4, but you can't deny that the aura of zombies was still there.

[@wyattherness6730]

Honestly it’s not even the map it’s the fact that they built this from the ground up thinking we would like it and it worries me for the future DLC

[@superspyro8940]

Really the only issue is that they are calling this a core map, if it was an extra with some of its own content it's fine but like, would you guys rather this not be here for added content and just have the base map you'll get bored of in a week?

[@SayItWithASM]

@@superspyro8940 honestly for gameplay showcases and release I would have preferred only Terminus, I was so hyped from the trailers and the moment I saw Liberty Falls gameplay at COD NEXT I lost all my hopes of it being the first good zombies in a long time. (That's assuming Terminus is any better but we have already seen it has Cold War/Warzone mechanics so I'm not holding my breath.)

[@peyoteguy425]

It's a casual map that is easy for anyone to get into. You need stuff like that to attract new players. Terminus is too complicated for someone who has never played zombies to really get into. You don't have the time to really read what each interactable part does, unless you get a crawler and explore--which a new player isn't going to know about and may not consider. Liberty Falls is fine for what it is and who it is geared for, IMO.

[@wyattherness6730]

@@peyoteguy425 in which way is terminus too complicated? PAP and power you get by buying doors essentially

[@peyoteguy425]

@@wyattherness6730 Okay let me word is simpler for you. Imagine you never played zombies before. You load up Liberty Falls first, and Terminus second. If you were a new player who usually just plays warzone or something, what would be easier to get into? I didn't say it was too complicated, I said it was too complicated for a new player. I know this from playing with randoms myself on Terminus lol. Terminus is definitely the better map, but Liberty Falls is great for two things: New players, which is an important demographic, and also mindless farming for skins and whatnot. Think beyond your own needs and desires, and more about what's good for the game.

[@GlitchedPerception]

“What map do you turn your brain off to play.” Looking at you, shipment 24/7 players.

[@Malibuthe6th]

hey man i need that dopamine overload

[@AMH793]

Look… it’s for the camo grinds i swear

[@TheFlame234]

I only played shipment 24/7 on MW2 2023 because it was the only good map that had that. Dome and shoot house were the only other good maps, and all the other maps sucked

[@PapaJoJ]

Shipment: the map for casuals who suck at CoD but just Gotta have those lame ass camos

[@Something_Unique_512]

@@PapaJoJcasuals make up the majority of the playerbase

[@usaj]

2:58 awh good all goosebumps that sound!

[@FTGPORKCHOP]

I get thoese goosebumps every time yeah!

[@seiuchicompositions]

Bo1 hit different, I remember playing bo1 zombies at my friends house at night and just being scared shitless

[@ejouie]

The unique draw for Five was the elevator. It came on the heels of the Der Riese catwalk. Camping was the main strategy at the time. So, we camped in the elevator. That lead to some made scrambles to "Push the Button!" before we got overwhelmed. Scrambling out on the lower level to quickly get some MP5 ammo and get back before the horde caught up. Not advancing past speed cola upstairs as that was generally the risk/reward line for revives. It was different. It was fun.

[@Slimedude99]

The Giant should get an 11/10 for EE for having that Impossible Easter Egg 😂

[@the_seer_0421]

You are so right lmao

[@p.p.burnell7294]

You are so right lmao

[@AdamantWind2071]

You are so right lmao

[@Purplepentapus_]

To fix the aura of the map, they should make it get progressively more "zombified" as you reach higher rounds (perhaps every 5 rounds or after each dog round) that would really make it feel like you are witnessing the outbreak unfold from the very first moments where the town is still pristine, to when the town has been fully overrun and trashed by zombies

[@gudshjrehand3739]

Thats actually a sick idea. Kinda like nuketown

[@sjrkleijer5878]

If they started listing to the community, we would have such an awesome zombie experience

[@Purplepentapus_]

@@sjrkleijer5878 to be fair, while my idea would be really cool, it would require re skinning the map multiple times over, which would not only be very processor intensive in an actual in-game environment, but also absurdly labor intensive for the art team. Sometimes the best ideas aren't really pheasible

[@pizzaguy48]

@@Purplepentapus_ 4 years in dev + we got the series x and ps5

[@pizzaguy48]

@@Purplepentapus_i think it would definitely be possible

[@JoeMama-qt5go]

he forgot to mention that farm town and bus depot had bonus game modes for the first time ever. either turned or grief. most of my time on bo2 zombies was in grief added even more replay value

[@MMAHAPPYHOUR]

Grief needs a return.

[@asftyeedyy4576]

grief was what kept me on bo2 past bo3s release

[@victordia099]

Man I will never forget that year when BO2 dropped. I literally felt like that was the most epic game to ever come out at the time. I got it for Christmas and did not stop playing it. Still till this day, I would play if it had a larger active community. I would 100% spend 80$ on a full bo2 remaster.

[@josephgreble5]

It’s still pretty active on Xbox

[@FranciscoSanchezXO]

this video was really interesting. i used to love zombies back when i got my copy of WaW and remember spending so many hours on bo1. Would be awesome if you could rank all the 3arc zombies map. I pretty much stopped playing after bo2 lol

[@Lukegunter19]

12:17 Don’t forget my favorite perk Tombstone Soda! There was a trick that would let you get all perks with it. Played with my cousin so we always took turns on who got to get their perks first.

[@thekillerJ10]

I really like this video format. It would be great if you made a video rating all the zombies maps using this format

[@archangelgabriel8493]

I've absolutely been enjoying Milo ripping into Cod. It's been long overdue that we push back as hard as we can to get some proper change.

[@xxstephxx1005]

Meh game mode needs to die for a few years let the old heads retire

[@EternalHunter420]

@@xxstephxx1005at that point might as well not even bring it back.

[@spaceageGecko]

I wouldn't even call it "ripping into cod", he is just being honest and constructive with this critique.

[@joshuacollins9316]

Definitely not ripping into it. If you watch his vids you see him giving fair criticism and also praise.

[@xxstephxx1005]

@@EternalHunter420 good

[@pazonk]

Liberty Balls

[@MelvinThe123]

You like that huh 😂

[@TFAmbience]

​Don't mind @@MelvinThe123, he's upset he spends his day glazing Activision and pays for the privilege.

[@muffinsat4am]

@@MelvinThe123 This guy wants Bobby Kotick's Liberty Balls lol

[@BombShot]

After release, I can confidently say, aesthetically unique, though under whelming and not zombies enough. I think a small amount of ruin could sell a "recently shafted" city as it is lore wise a bit better. Gameplaywise, I love it. Good train location in spawn, decent enough easter egg where the elements of said easter egg where somewhat obvious enough to figure it out completely solo (and with no guide). The only things I didn't find intuitively or by world clues were the wires and the crafting location for the jet gun, but to be completely honest I got lucky on a box roll after seeing the floating hat and didn't actually look for them. The map has some pretty good natural difficulty, as it's easy to get over-run quickly even in a good training location, and if you're not extremely careful and thoughtful with your rotations through it when that happens you will die in the chokepoints between open areas. All in all, despite its flaws it FEELS like a good zombies map.

[@spencertaylor-mrliltay]

This map will forever be called “Liberty Balls.” I don’t care if it turns out to be the best map we’ve ever had, I’m always going to think of it as that! 😂

[@universeobserver378]

Oh please, anything but a "big and open" zombies map with absolutely no zombies feel to it. 🤦‍♂️

[@Richtofens_revenge]

👌

[@MelvinThe123]

Cry harder 😂

[@Gon_-bc3ud]

@@MelvinThe123 it isn't like there gonna listen to us anyway.

[@Noname-uk9mu]

@@MelvinThe123So fans aren’t allowed to have opinions on what they want and they should just accept anything the devs put in the game?

[@sirrexx597]

@@MelvinThe123you gotta be a bot

[@darokh3807]

32:52 "According to what I have seen" Bro gives it 10 out of 10 for EE and hasn't event played it. Imagine the main EE is totally ass💀

[@jordcn971]

it is ass

[@quinnfdw]

@@jordcn971boss fight didn’t even feel hard, just annoying

[@pazonk]

Still better than every Vanguard Map

[@TGTDestiny]

I'd rather play Concord than any Vanguard zombies map so thats saying a lot.

[@Watergate-Keeper]

Even Shi No Numa reborn?

[@KoliKami]

Not every map, Shi no numa reborn was amazing

[@JustinSimoneau]

​@@Watergate-Keeper yes

[@SixArmedPriest]

​@@JustinSimoneau Disagree completely. Shi No Numa Reborn at least still had the core gameplay mechanics similar to classic RBZ. I'm pretty sure what I dislike the most is just the overall game engine. It is now no different than MWZ with no uniqueness or soul.

[@KingStomping]

Some of us had flashbacks at 2:56

[@leaner1]

The draw for The Giant is that SOE was so complicated and different that you’d hop on The Giant to play something more familiar

[@HT_Tony]

Idk who's calling shadows super complicated except for the sword steps💀💀 it's not that confusing

[@endlessvice988]

​@@HT_Tonyit was very hard for people who's first zombies experience was bo3. I tried to get my friends into zombies with shadows and they gave up

[@leaner1]

@@HT_Tony redditor ass comment

[@leaner1]

@@HT_Tony you sound like a redditor

[@RainCloudVideos]

@@HT_Tonydog wtf are you even on about? You have to find like 12 items and do 4 rituals which can take up to 12 rounds with a bad team just to get to PAP. It’s one of the most complicated bo3 zombies maps on par with zetzsobou

[@kvng_rvbby]

i’m simple man. i see milo. i see dry erase board. i’m happy man. Also, for Nightmares: Aura: 0 - anything interesting from the bo3 campaign is lost with voice overs and an orange tinted filter EE’s: 2 - there’s reused hidden songs Story: 3 - everything is confusing and rewritten with a lazier voice over Draw: 0 - nothing WW: 0 - no wonder weapons Gameplay: 3 - open world-ish campaign levels with zombies that grab like waw

[@KaeyzeeHorror]

Nightmare's can be a relatively funny experience with Friends tho...not saying it's good but I had my share of relative run with it

[@ItsLukeDude]

It all went wrong at bo4. What is that HUD? Next game. Why are there healthbars and its so bright it doesnt even feel like zombies. Its getting worse every game.

[@icykd5322]

Bo4 is still better than that absolute crap that is cold war bo4 was at least difficult cold war is so easy you would have to be retarded to struggle in any way on that garbage game

[@Mega-Brick]

For what it's worth, they've confirmed you can customize the HUD to be minimalist and traditional, with no healthbars, damage numbers, or minimap. It's not much, but credit where it's due.

[@the_seer_0421]

​@@ZWCalebno it really doesn't. While it definitely looks better then cold war and mwz, it has all sorts of other problems

[@lemmingsftw2480]

bo3*

[@ItsLukeDude]

@@lemmingsftw2480 BO3 was good

[@sean3473]

bro the IMMEDIATE loss of all charm and character from BO4 to CW is hilarious. You can instantly tell all the soul and care was just gone.

[@TheLEE16884]

Lol they realised they didnt need any of that to sell skins to warzone players lol just packagw warzone again and youll get an extra $50 out of each warzone dweeb

[@ghostwhencodghosts9114]

And brainless clowns still defend cold war

[@pktpete]

I think you're loosing the plot majorly, there's obviously passion but when devs are at the mercy of Activision making them do things they don't want to do it ends up being not as good. I loved cold war zombies even if it's not perfect it's fun and outbreak was honestly pretty cool even if it was just using fire team as it's map.

[@sean3473]

@@pktpete dude 😂 CW zombies was ass. Ez trash. Outbreak being the worst of it. Lazy slop warzone pandering dogwater.

[@TheLEE16884]

@pktpete you can enjoy it, and that's fine. But some people want a deeper experience, and want more than playing as opperators. And that's fine also. Different goals, different gamers. Casual vs in depth is the real argument.

[@jesusthebruh2144]

Rating maps by "aura" is crazy. The brainrot is real

[@xLodus]

counter argument to a beginning point, nacht is a bonus map because it was a bonus inclusion in the game entirely

[@xLodus]

@@cesarlopez700 i never said anything about the new map, i was saying the OG nacht is a bonus map cause the mode wasn’t even planned originally

[@Novistadors]

Plus the WAW trailers had a video that said "Bonus Map: Nacht Der Untoten something like that

[@jhjgames3842]

his definition of what a bonus map is is flawed imo, a fifth point should be there to clarify the bonus part is referring to it being there in addition to a already planned/existing primary zombies map. nacht does not make sense to call a bonus map, it's definitely a special case as the entire gamemode didn't exist prior to it. everyone other one is a bonus map whereas nacht would be considered a bonus gamemode. it literally just comes down to how you define it but you're right, based off Milo's 4 metrics it would technically be a bonus map.

[@MOH717able]

@@cesarlopez700funny og high round strat for nacht was sitting in the corner with the flamethrower lol

[@CoreyHennessy]

I think it’s hard to call it a “bonus” when it was the original map for the mode. Bonus for WAW 100% but not in the zombie game mode in my opinion.

[@JayCreationsDev]

In reference to the point about The Giant: honestly highly recommend playing bo3 with reshade on if youre on PC. Crank the saturation up a tiny bit and the contrast up, exposure slightly down and the game just becomes so beautiful

[@ronaldraygun3591]

What is reshade?

[@EverydayWhitey]

@@ronaldraygun3591it shades games for you, you can use it on old games to make them look amazing. It’s not perfect, but for what it is, it works pretty well.

[@rudilangley849]

@@ronaldraygun3591pc application that can change the post processing effects of games

[@nate8058]

in fairness a few of these categories youre ranking are personal preference like "aura" i personally dont care if the zombies map looks all "apocalyptic" and what not and now that the map is released id put the gameplay almost up with town and DEFINETLY above nuketown zombies

[@kilsgb]

Notice how quick the conversation went from "we get TWO zombie maps on launch, wow" to "liberty falls is only a bonus map anyway, we still have terminus." Imo this is unacceptable after 4 years of dev time. I won't be buying the game on launch, I'll watch streams and if I still don't like what I c then I'm straight up not buying it.

[@Sussiness1877]

*buys on launch*

[@kilsgb]

@@Sussiness1877 no. I didn't like cold war zombies. I gave that a fair chance and all I'm seeing is a continuation of that. With pain in my heart and for my own sanity, I skip it.

[@Mr.Margwito]

You do realize that Treyarch were also working on other things besides BO6 in those four year. They have about 639 employees, and they were being pulled from BO6 to work on Vanguard and Modern Warfare zombies. Keep in mind as well they have to work on campaign and multiplayer.

[@beansfebreeze]

Cool?

[@kilsgb]

@@Mr.Margwito fine. Take the 4 years argument away. It's still not a worthy 3arc product imo. If you have played any of the older games you would know what I'm talking about: zombies waw, bo1, bo2, bo3, etc.

[@HondaMoto14]

If I have to hear Milo say “Pentigun” instead of “Pentagon” one more time… 😅🤣

[@BirdParsons]

Dude fr. Any of us living in VA who actually have to say it a lot are going crazy lmao

[@HondaMoto14]

@@BirdParsons Funny you added from VA, I’m from Roanoke. lol

[@SkyzzzGaming]

@@BirdParsonsits an accent hardly something to be pissed of about Americans mispronounce the english language everytime they open their mouths

[@zaadus112]

waiting for the day gamers will be satisfied with anything.

[@nazismomsrhos]

Waffles is secretly telling us he hates his job and all of zombies 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Ryan-xh7pe]

the whiteboard movement has been fantastic

[@FrostDK98]

One thing I'll disagree with is all the things Milo said about the Winter's Howl. On classified, it's actually statistically better than the BO1/BO3 thunder gun as it can wipe more trains for more kills. They released a patch sometime after launch of BO4 making the winters howl a 4 shot kill permanently after a certain round with no trigger hesitation so you can fire off 4 shots almost instantly.

[@juanfreire2241]

Love the vid, bro u have such an ADERALL face haha

[@archer9356]

I do have to say that the bo1 remastered maps story aren't a 10/10 only because they replace the Marines with the og crew, which is never actually explained, and Dr. Monty in Bo3 just kinda shrugs it aside. This especially gets worse since after Bo1, they do more with the Marines in Verrukt with Smokey and Banana getting a radio in Revelations. Alpha Omega even revealed that the unnamed marine survived along with his name as he is the one that recovers Peter McCain body for Broken Arrow. This, for me personally, hurts the fact that all remaster of the maps just shove ultimis in especially since there's no reason to use the og crew.

[@colinmcmasters5819]

The reason was that they didn't have voice actors during World at War. No lore reason, just for fun.

[@Sir_Slimbread]

True, it should be no higher than a 5, especially since it's just the same story again, but worse(since Ultimis is there when they shouldn't be).

[@jordan9503]

dog you do understand the og story was concluded at buried right ? after that a new director came in and preceded with his vison . taking any content after words into consideration is just fucking the whole thing up its not going to make sense

[@joshuacollins9316]

@@jordan9503buried is B02, they’re talking about the B01 remastered WAW maps.

[@jordan9503]

@@joshuacollins9316 ya maps made after the fact with shoe horned references to newer made up lore

[@juliocast3326]

“Need some more beans for the chowder here” - best quote from one of the playable characters I’m not sure who.

[@FrozenDummer]

WE HAVENT EVEN GOT THE GAME WE NEED TO WAIT BRO

[@TheUnknown1215]

i don't get is why they removed an iconic thing like zombie shields, and just replaced it with buyable armour plates on the wall

[@LionHeart089]

I think cause shield parts having multiple locations, and people complaining about them being hard to find was a reason. And with warzone being popular, I’m sure they thought by adding in the plate system they could bring in some familiar mechanics for newer players. I never minded collecting parts and crafting the shield. Searching for them when a new map released was part of the fun. And it also provided more content for content creators. Removing the shield for the plate system was a huge mistake.

[@sweetaccord8754]

Armor plates and the shield do the exact same thing, they block hits. There is literally no difference between them

[@SkyzzzGaming]

@@sweetaccord8754except one you earnt by being vigilant and the other is just there… shield clears everytime i dont know a single person that complained about finding 3 parts for a shield it was cool knowing where they could spawn and trying to build it as quick as possible

[@pizzaguy48]

@@sweetaccord8754no it’s definitely a lot different

[@Sin-pt2eq]

@@sweetaccord8754theres a very big difference, with armor you you’re protected from all angles at all times, where as with the shield it was almost always just your back. It makes the game way too easy, in Cold War war with full armor it was like 14-16 hits to get downed you never felt like you were in any real danger

[@sh4rkstooth340]

Liberty Falls is a fantastic map and im glad i didnt watch this vid two months ago. It's just baseless assumptions on a map Waffles here didnt play.

[@Kdot98]

im not even a zombies main but i played every bonus map with friends since five. you could see the amount of love they put into those maps compared to what has just came out this year. it looks like they just dont even give a damn anymore.

[@chickenwar1]

3:55 "It's got a music easter egg BUT it's Eminem" woah woah woah are you implying that's a bad thing?

[@gengarclefairy3475]

It better not be venom

[@cadenphillips4235]

His songs are all hit or miss for me it’s usually miss but he does make some bangers the song on 5 was not a banger

[@pipsqueakking7263]

Exactly what im thinking lol

[@MasterEth]

His point was the EE was a song, not lore

[@blueferal8626]

Yep

[@Dark-Pikachu1]

0:12 town reimagine 😆

[@ThatsEvenBetterBrad]

damn milo, you stallion. looking fly asl my guy

[@alexbasha0508]

LIBERTY BOLLOCKS.

[@havi8-0-9]

the brit version

[@alexbasha0508]

@@havi8-0-9Yessir

[@OfficialBambii]

Liberty dragging these balls across Treyarchs face. 😂

[@havi8-0-9]

@@OfficialBambii fuck that was funny

[@g59gng]

@@OfficialBambiihad me rolling daddy

[@KamPatterson69]

26:31 “when I first clapped eyes on Liberty Falls’ cheeks” …. Okay Milo pls stop using zoomer vocabulary it’s turning my mind into goo 😢😂

[@anuclearbomb5478]

Underrated 💀

[@KaineMikulas]

The Gen alpha vocabulary stays for ironic purposes, we must suffer

[@MarvinB5CO]

We are doing this before the game is even out, it’s not fair😭🙏

[@powerfulstaraptor3906]

I love Milo’s new obsession with “aura”

[@mcfcguvnors]

& Google adsense !

[@shazyoutube]

Bro’s using the word wrong too 🤦‍♂️

[@SoTrippie]

@@shazyoutubeno, he’s using it right, aura for zombies is ambience and vibe of the map, or also could be the fear it instills playing it solo for instance

[@BumpTune8462]

I love the game studio that was known for creating these incredible horror auras is now totally incapable of doing so.

[@BeyondTrash-xe1vs]

​@@shazyoutubeHe's using the word's actual definition, not its Gen z slang.

[@ryanl9245]

I know this was made before black up six came out, but everybody loves this map in this take aged horrible

[@FluffyKid17]

One of the bigger issues I have with the newer zombies map is the UI. All the older zombies maps had amazing UIs fitting with the map theme and feel. After BO3 it all went down hill

[@Boardsplitter]

Liberty balls would actually be improved if they just added a breaking bad yellow filter, or BO4s cartoon mode 😂

[@Brandon25043]

I'll give it the benefit of the doubt, rather than slating it before actually seeing it all etc. However after it releases, the gloves come off.

[@nicholashadweh5710]

Ok five having Eminem as the Easter egg song was so sick to me can’t really say that’s a detriment imo

[@colham]

Coming back to this just to say, Liberty Falls is awesome and a ton of fun :)

[@covenantfemboy]

Yup, me and my friend have been replaying it daily since launch

[@Mossbergg]

hear me out. maybe people should play the map first when the games out and not judge it based on looking at it from a beta version?

[@zhongligaming3734]

This essentially is the finished version. We’re only a month out from release. You must understand that modern cod “betas” are simply marketing tools to get people to try the game for free, presenting all the best elements of the game in as little time as possible. No useful “data” or “feedback” is coming from these “betas” that could possibly be acted on in only a single month of production.

[@vitalorigins]

“aura” bro got gen alpha-fied 😔

[@bigeddymachete]

The cod zombies community when they don’t get der riese for the 700th time: 😠😡🤬

[@Royal-fl2oe]

Fax

[@flipr0]

HATE to be devils advocate here but HOW ARE WE RANKING A MAP BEFORE ITS OUT?

[@sword743]

To be fair, he’s ranking based on what the chose to show us. And that’s not our fault we are shown half of a product to “hype” us up. Thats the issue, they way they presented it killed most the z hype lol dumbssa marketing

[@michaelbrust5873]

The dead ops arcade is based off a game called smash tv, it’s an old arcade cabinet.

[@jeanmichaeltormes1196]

Oh dang an ancient footage of the Relaxing End before he went full unboxing channel transition, hopefully BO6 will rekindle his joy to zombies again

[@TheLegend-qj7wh]

He is a sell out. And nobody likes him

[@jonathanpabon4477]

Don't act like you didn't change the title from Liberty Balls to Liberty Falls 🤣😭😭

[@THX-1138]

Liberty balls is designed inside and out to be slop for MP/Warzone players. Ranking it above anything and ESPECIALLY town is completely mental.

[@BumpTune8462]

In my eyes literally the ONLY thing town has going for it is aura. It looks good. It looks like a treyarch map. But just like farm and bus depot, all you can do on the map is shoot zombies until around round 30. But town lets you buy four perks and upgrade so it beats out farm and bus depot. In liberty falls at least there will be a main EE and two good wonder weapons. I hate to say it because I’m definitely more OG and hate a lot of this new stuff. But I would almost definitely have more fun on this map than town.

[@krustyman5151]

@@BumpTune8462obviously we have to wait for the map to launch, but liberty falls literally just looks like a chunk out of a battle royale map, wide open spaces and little to no aura. No challenge = no fun. At least with town you’re constantly on your toes. In terms of ee well yeah thats the one aspect maybe that liberty falls has town beat

[@joshuacollins9316]

@@krustyman5151no challenge may be boring for you, but other players might feel differently. And you just said it has Town beat on the ee, and the other categories like WW as well ofc

[@spaceghosttoast]

​@@Nosebump I'm sure MP will be good I've always prefered treyarch when it comes to MP, but I doubt anyone is going to look back on CW or Bo6 Zombies fondly, if there wad a time to reminisce about CW zombies itd be rn and the community doesn't seem to have warmed up to it even years later, unlike Bo3 where after a couple years everyone came around

[@fallingjustice29]

⁠@@Nosebumpmaybe Mr spaceghost is making too broad of a generalization as there are prolly a few people that liked Cold War, but my parents also ingrained that lesson or rather saying of, “you get what you get and you don’t throw a fit.”. That saying is for things given to you, like a meal your mom cooked or clothes from a charity, not for things you buy. If you bought something and didn’t like it, you have full right to complain

[@jhjgames3842]

14:25 personally, I have replayed town hundreds of times and Tranzit very rarely, mostly just with friends. Keyword being replayed. I would be interested to see if others have replayed Town or Tranzit more. Especially for a solo experience

[@jhjgames3842]

6/10 makes sense though, just because you have to factor in how often people would replay farm or bus depot. I think I have also replayed bus depot more than tranzit haha

[@eotto4752]

I am personally in the group of people who has replayed Tranzit hundreds of times, while only playing Town a handful of times. I love hearing Victis, Maxis, and Richtofen and I prefer the slightly longer setup (aside from pap, which I do think is badly designed). Learning the layout of the fog and how to use denizen teleporters also helped out a lot, but by fully figuring out Tranzit it ended up making the prospect of playing Town all the more unappealing to me

[@BumpTune8462]

I do not think I have touched town since I was a child playing bo2. I’ve gone back to tranzit and the other bo2 maps. But there is zero reason to play town. Your max round is mid 30s based on weapon power. Its just like nacht but you can have four perks and the ability to upgrade your weapon.

[@EternalHunter420]

⁠@@BumpTune8462if your on co-op you can get all perks. And I might be wrong but can’t you pack a punch your gun as many times as you want and it gets stronger in bo2 or does it just change the attachments after the second pack ?

[@razradrenaline]

@@EternalHunter420only the first pack boosts the damage everything else after that just changes attachments

[@cjfolsom]

I like every video milo, seriously every upload is so good for BO6 zombies

[@thatonev3697]

It’s the Map has No identity AND they warzoned Zombies

[@plottytime5969]

I think I'm going to wait until the game comes out to jump to conclusions. Crazy, I know.

[@RobReith]

Same, haven't been buying CoDs, used to love zombs. I was really hoping the extra development time was going to be the difference Treyarch needed this time. Doesn't look great atm. To be fair the DLCs are always the good stuff, so as long as the gameplay is fluid and fun there is hope.

[@whiteboyangel4838]

Always people like you... people are already played the game not like it's just a trailer. He gave valid points on it.

[@Hc4697]

All you need to know is that it isn’t the same like traditional zombies. It’s warzone zombies once again

[@OfficialMiniFridge]

It’s ironic to me that everything you dislike about LF is what I like most. This is my first zombies ever and after first playing Terminus I loaded into LF and told my friend, “it’s bright outside!”. This being my first experience with zombies I wasn’t looking as much at the “aura” and was instead just wanting to understand how the game worked and played in an enjoyable environment. I think it shows a potential place for LF being a noob friendly map that focuses on simplicity

[@AuroraBorealis11111]

I love “five”. Liberty balls sucks well balls ⚽️ ⚽️ 😂

[@OfficialBambii]

Balls

[@SirusTheEyeless]

I’m kinda shocked you think so. Nuketown sucked in comparison. The giant was literally just der reise. It’s been like a decade and a half since zombies first came out. Why do people want the exact same formula to keep being released over and over?

[@Royal-fl2oe]

Honestly a great take, I found Liberty Falls/Terminus to be a nice refresh on the zombies formula. And hot take too, I enjoyed CW zombies. I will now see myself out haha

[@Martinezherooftime]

A day and night cycle based on rounds and each cycle the town looks more run down and destroyed would be an awesome change honestly.

[@Scabaz]

Liberty falls doesn’t look like a zombies map because the story is that it’s literally 1 day after the outbreak as stated as you spawn in.

[@sh4rkstooth340]

he wouldnt know that because he didnt play it two months ago lol

[@Shade_91]

honestly It feels like they just dont want to pay big voice actors to play a new set crew, I cant see ANY other reason they keep doing this.

[@BirdParsons]

But they literally DID do that. So…..

[@Sir_Slimbread]

I honestly think it'd be a waste of resources to have a one off Canon Crew for this map(since it takes place at the same time as Terminus). We'll probably be having out Terminus Crew on every other Map, so 1 Map with just Operators is fine with me.

[@txc_acidcat]

the section where you were discussing "five" had me rolling🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣... i left a like man

[@elbrento222]

I still am of the opinion that we didn’t see half of liberty falls because the EE is locked.

[@xxstephxx1005]

Leave it to the zombies community to over criticize and kill a map before it even fully releases

[@VerbalBraille]

Im totally hoping aswell! That maybe they learned from letting playtesters beat the EE in FirebaseZ, so theh mightve have given a demo'd map. But tbh, it could really be the biggest amount of copium.. and even if they did have a bigger basement level (like five). It wouldnt explain, or take away from the map being too big, with too much space everywhere you go.. 😞

[@knowingbadger]

To be fair its still not confirmed if it's locked or not

[@ProdLucio]

The cope is real

[@ProdLucio]

@@xxstephxx1005look at it bro😐

[@THX-1138]

You will regret giving liberty balls EE a 10. Mark my words.

[@Sir_Slimbread]

How? In comparison to the other maps, even if it's an extremely short Main EE, it's still a Main EE(that's not even including the Side EE's). He didn't say "The Liberty Falls Main Easter Egg is a 10/10". The best the other Bonus Maps has were Music EE's, or small EE's.

[@liam4184]

@@Sir_Slimbread I don't think he should rate anything a 10/10 without knowing anything about it yet. I get that it's the only one with an EE, but if it's extremely short or just terrible then I still don't think it deserves a 10/10 just because it's there.

[@joshuacollins9316]

@@liam4184you could say that about eating anything on the map at all. He also gave the story a 4/10, when all we have from that is a banger cutscene, and don’t even. Fully know what happens. He’s rating the fact that it will have a main EE, which compared to the others does score a 10/10.

[@liam4184]

@@joshuacollins9316 Ok, maybe in that case having EE as a thing to judge is a little stupid considering only one of them has an EE. They should all score 0 expect this one in that case.

[@joshuacollins9316]

@@liam4184 if you watched the vid you know why he scored it that way. Each map has diff forms of minor Easter eggs on their own , so they’re not all 0.

[@LateNightHalo]

Hit the nail on the head for the Giant VS Der Riese THOUGH I will disagree about there not being a reason to play it. Keep in mind at launch, you could either play shadows of evil OR the Giant and I’d be willing to bet that most casual players will choose the Giant over Shadows since Shadows is far too convoluted to have a “casual fun” experience on. The Giant was the perfect “Kino Der toten” map for people who didn’t want KZbin tutorials open on YT and it carried Bo3’s zombies mode for a while. I think a good bonus map is one that is a casual, simple “horde defense first, story and Easter eggs extremely second” map.

[@sublimephoenix8860]

Bro ranked AURA 🤣🤣

[@knowingbadger]

Valid thing to rank Aura = atmosphere

[@TheFlame234]

@@knowingbadger Aura doesn't really matter if the map itself sucks.

[@liam4184]

@@TheFlame234 Both gamplay and aura matters. Even if the gameplay is good, it still feels like enjoyable if there's no aura.

[@unsivilizedgamer123]

You should take this video down now

[@lewisgraham2929]

Coming back to this after release. The map is easily better than Terminus. Which is crazy.

[@kingdeadpool20]

Milo's whiteboard vids are now my favorite part of youtube

[@WoW4Short]

I think a big part of the zombie ambiance is the FOV… older games had like 70 and the zombies were literally in your face. Now they’re puny and weak. There’s no real fear of survival…

[@Simok1234]

Even if you didn't rate them, it would've maybe made sense to mention the other Dead Ops iterations. I also feel like you're a tad harsh on onslaught lol. Even if it's not for you, its fairly inoffensive and a good use of repurposed content as a bonus. There's some unique draw to a light zombies survival version of hardpoint. There's some novelty to experiencing these mechanics on multiplayer maps in familiar spaces that are recontextialized as an MP player. From my POV it would at least be a 3 for draw, but I guess its hardly interesting if you don't play MP much.

[@samuelb66]

The guy who came up with Liberty Balls on stream casually cured my depression.

[@deviction9314]

4:27 REAL WHAT ??? 😱😱

[@_Maa636]

Figures he said figures lol

[@d1watt]

@@_Maa636no he didn’t

[@Vulpes_Shinbi]

Stop being racist ​@@d1watt

[@dominothegrinch]

It wasn’t a hard r so it’s ok.

[@niickramboV2.0]

All my figgaz real af🏆💯💯💯