MSD Super (leaky) Disk Drive SD-1. Can we cure this drive of incontinent capacitor syndrome?

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In this video we take a look at an MSD Super Disk Drive SD-1 for the Commodore VIC-20, C 64, and B series business machines. These have the reputation of being sturdily built but are also known for having leaking capacitors. This unit does not disappoint. Can we get it working again?
Join us and find out.
Timeline:
00:00 - Welcome
01:24 - Unboxing and tour
06:02 - Teardown and cap hunt on main PCB
23:10 - Drive disaster!
36:25 - Drive motor board
41:42 - Clean, lube, assemble
48:26 - Testing, fix and fix and fix again, set drive speed
56:18 - Wrap up, thanks!
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@mk500
@mk500 10 ай бұрын
Amazing work bringing that drive back from the dead! Those caps; ugh.
@Raketenclub
@Raketenclub 10 ай бұрын
i am doing some uncoordinated chaotic lab stuff right now, clean up, sorting all the little toys i forgot about...., ..... listen to your videos in the background is so much relaxing and even motivating.... :x thank you.
@TheStuffMade
@TheStuffMade 10 ай бұрын
It must feel special to unbox a disk drive from the 80s in it's original box and packaging, thanks for sharing.
@HeyBirt
@HeyBirt 10 ай бұрын
I think the best part with this drive was getting to meet the original owner and spend some time learning how he used his Commodores back in the day.
@TheStuffMade
@TheStuffMade 10 ай бұрын
@@HeyBirt I love that, Great history, Wish I held onto my original VIC and C64 stuff back in the day instead of giving it to my younger brother who threw it all in the garbage 12 months later.
@DevEncryptionNull
@DevEncryptionNull 6 ай бұрын
I had the dual double sided version of this back in the day... looked like 4 drives. Weighed a TON!
@mrbill2297
@mrbill2297 10 ай бұрын
Hey Birt, good vid ! I've been repairing TEC FB-501 for a long time. They were (are) in all sorts of older computers from the old Kaypro I's to TRS add-on drives to early MS DOS machines. The dual headed versions (FB-503 ) were soon to follow and aren't quite as bad as the 501s but they suffer from the same leaky capacitor issues to a lesser degree. Nice to see someone else trudging thru the leaky capacitor issues for once! FYI, I always go up in capacitor VBD value when replacing and the Bipolar caps on the spindle drive boards never go bad, probably because they are two-way devices, different electrolyte maybe ? The 2 empty spots on the logic motherboard are for the MSD-SD2(the SD1 and SD2 share the same board) build to accept extra static ram ICs for running the coveted 'autocopy' program without a connected computer.
@Fezzler61
@Fezzler61 10 ай бұрын
Sat. morn java with some Hey Birt! magic. Drive reminds me of my EPSON TF-20.
@terryraymond7984
@terryraymond7984 5 ай бұрын
neat trick for mopping up flux
@iz8dwf
@iz8dwf 10 ай бұрын
MSD drives are absoutely my favourite with the double interface. I wish we could find them in EU!
@tenminutetokyo2643
@tenminutetokyo2643 10 ай бұрын
DOOD! Do one on the TRS-80 Color Mini floppy drive. Also jam in new tiny ceramic caps. Makes it look cleaner.
@JL-yi1fx
@JL-yi1fx 10 ай бұрын
Experienced Technician Glasses , not old man glasses !
@HutchCA
@HutchCA 10 ай бұрын
Mine were leaking too, especially on the motor board.
@richardwaters9284
@richardwaters9284 10 ай бұрын
The kaypro 4/84 comes with the double sided versions of the TEC drive. It also comes with the same capacitors of death :(
@sektaran
@sektaran 8 ай бұрын
Hey Birt, I have the same red/green flashing LED as in your video at about the 53min mark, how did you determine it was a #24 read error? Thanks!
@HeyBirt
@HeyBirt 8 ай бұрын
There is a procedure called 'reading the error channel' which is in the users manual. It is a command you type in which sends a request to the drive and the drive responds with the error type.
@sektaran
@sektaran 8 ай бұрын
@@HeyBirt thanks. when I powered the drive and my 4032 previously I got a solid green LED. I did run that command anyway and got a '0' (zero) back indicating 'OK'. The drive head activates and spindle spins when I power the drive and then again when I power the PET. The red/green flashing LED appears when I try a LOAD "$",9 (in my case) or use the NEW command to format a disk. I suppose I need to run the diagnostic command again after the flashing green/red appears to read the error channel again. Thanks again.
@sektaran
@sektaran 8 ай бұрын
@@HeyBirt I just had some time to run the diagnostic after an error is indicated (red/green flashing LED) and it came back with Error Code 21: Read Error (No Sync Character). The string is 21 READ ERROR 01 00 so track 01 sector 00. One of the explanations is "an improperly seated diskette". I obviously tried re-seating the diskette and then tried another fresh one. A potential cause is that when I received the drive there were loose parts inside, a bolt and nut that I secured, and a head shield plate that your video helped me find the location for under the drive head. I didn't know at the time that Ray Carlsen had a fix to re-glue it without removing the head (see link at bottom). Anyhow, I removed the drive head to re-glue it and it now could be out of alignment after I replaced it although It operates and sounds fine. Any idea how I might ensure it's properly aligned? Thanks so much again. portcommodore.com/rcarlsen/cbm/msd/REPAIRS/HEAD%20SHIELD.jpg
@terryraymond7984
@terryraymond7984 5 ай бұрын
whats the difference with the polyester caps
@HeyBirt
@HeyBirt 5 ай бұрын
Polyester caps are made from layers of metalized polyester. They are solid, i.e. nothing to leak, and have difference properties than ceramic capacitors.
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