MSI 4080 Super cracked PCB repair

MSI RMA rejected this card due to cracked board.
Well, if they designed it a bit better, maybe it would not have happened but since it did, i had to fix it and here is how i did it.
For repair, please contact me by following the link in the channel ABOUT page.
I accept donations via PayPal at paypal.me/tonynameless
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Tools, schematics, boardview files etc are available here
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[@jackc5293]

Customer: "The fan in front isn't spinning as fast as the one in the rear..." Tony: "and we'll go ahead and re-ball the core..."

[@wstd7417]

Because most cards have fan control in the core directly. In my previous card had shorted the fan pins and it didnt display qng fsn at max speed

[@maklogetrich2378]

when reball is the way of life

[@thesocker7920]

He reballed me

[@mahbubibnazadkafi]

I am shocked to find out that you are giving out tools, schematics, boardview files for all those gpu's for free... Soo cool man...!!! You are probably the best GPU technichian ever. Cheers mate. Keep up the good work.

[@northwestrepair]

Happy to help!

[@Lordcampi30]

Best GPU repair chanel

[@SkySky-zr3bt]

I agree👍

[@Rmm1722]

Yup

[@andr27]

Def

[@Joshwa-j3i]

you bet!

[@blower1]

Without a doubt, the guy is a master.

[@flavaofthemonth247]

GPU surgeon. Amazing work!

[@northwestrepair]

Thanks!

[@masterofallclasses7287]

Did more work on that card alone than Alex did for the last 2 years.

[@Negiku]

So true lol

[@CatastrophicJett]

love it how this guy sees a card is total sewage but instead of trashing it, he's like "weeee, a challenge"

[@FUJISHIR0]

Haters everywhere !

[@ryanhare3551]

😂

[@TBRANN]

Serious question: Where did you learn how to do these things? Did you go to a school or college to learn? I'm seriously interested to know, please.

[@Progamer-jv8mb]

Best repair by far. What others considering no fix due to low profit or time waste this man is taking the challenge and putting smile on peoples faces by telling them I fixed your gpu. Great work this is superb more people like you please. Defo subs

[@Morpheus-pt3wq]

Still, he mostly keeps doing higher-end mainstream or high-end GPUs, quite possibly due to those cards being expensive, making the repair worthwhile. I imagine most low-end GPUs truly aren´t worth the hassle.

[@Progamer-jv8mb]

@@Morpheus-pt3wq yes and no. I've seen many repair channels which ditching cracks in pcbs and rebolling cores stating no fix even on 4090s it's to much time consuming that's why they don't want to do it. They prefer to replace capacitors in few cards and have same money but reduce fix time to half. Anyway good that we still have people like them that really are there to help when rma failed.

[@blackstar-genX]

Best GPU repair man that ever lived.

[@Daclaem]

The Last V8 by the one and only Rob Hubbard , i played it alot when i was a kid. Great repair as always.

[@Sergiu_K]

A WITCH!!! No really, how you have so much patience with some of these cards is beyond my understanding. Your channel is like therapy for me, every video is a happy ending story. Just awesome, keep them coming, we keep on watching ;)

[@isharadhanushan2002]

At this point it is better to use vertical mount because graphic cards are beefy and heavy. Weighs around 2 - 2.5 kg. Vertical mounting removes stress on the pcie slot and all of the weight is handled by the IO plate which is strong compared to the PCB. It also removes stress on the motherboard slot.

[@Universal-Dilettant]

Vertical mounting isn't actually necessary. 🤨 Reasonable support alone is enough for a long and stress-free GPU life. Compared to the cost of a GPU, the financial outlay is downright ridiculous. My last ASUS TUF GPUs (4070Ti, 4070TiS) even came with a kind of adjustable pen that can also be used as a screwdriver, ... 😋 I would also always recommend using cards with higher build quality. On my 4080S Gaming X-Trio, for example, even the frame for the fans is made of metal. 😉 This brick will never bend, but of course it also needs support to protect the slot. Anyway, ... 🤫 simply support it! ... support it! ... support it!

[@BurnedUP78]

I never get bored on this channel, another great save!

[@alsmxx]

Regarding intermittent short circuit: 1. Capacitors charging: When you measure continuity, capacitors in the circuit might be discharged. Initially, they can behave like a short circuit, but as they charge, the resistance increases and the "short" disappears. 2. Semiconductor components: Diodes, transistors, or other semiconductor components may present very low resistance under certain conditions, depending on bias or a possible residual charge. After some time, this resistance can normalize. 3. Component heating: Some intermittent faults in components can occur due to heating, causing a short to be detected initially and then disappear after the circuit stabilizes.

[@Can4oc]

god bless chatgpt🦾

[@rustler08]

@@Can4oc Savage

[@northwestrepair]

​@@Can4oclol 😅

[@spacemonkey2665]

this channel is my new addiction. so calming to watch. Big fan

[@BrokenNoseGaming]

The most fascinating thing to watch is you removing and then reballing the core of the GPU. Its amazing you can get everything set so precisely and put it back on the PCB.

[@slaaayx]

Not going to lie, you are probably more precise than a dentist with a lot of experience.

[@tim0steele]

Incredible patience and skill. Bravo.

[@darkbyte1043]

you doing your job to very last to no hope left , impressive

[@ISquishWorms]

C64 Music, nice, I still have mine.

[@sammlerkiste7970]

Your repairs are MAGICAL!

[@powershot9933]

Better than factory

[@POTUS-ob5yb]

Ngl, this guy is the best GPU repairman!

[@GameNest]

It's hard to believe in some of the repairs u do, even after watching them. Top notch stuff.

[@miguelfernandez2325]

WE need more videos please keep them coming more often.

[@lkron5741]

This guy is cracked....

[@ahayesm]

My best guess is that heating breaks down an oxide layer in the capacitors creating a channel for DC current and injecting voltage re-forms that oxide layer which closes the channel.

[@DamirUlovec]

Once the dielectric is broken, the capacitor is gonsky.

[@pjhb_microsoldering_portugal]

GPU Guru strikes again 😀👍 Greetings from Portugal 🇵🇹

[@FabiaLp]

you are the reson i now have a Lego-Tower in my case supporting my RX7900 GRE on on the far edge. Stupid huge cards....

[@shanemartingreenan]

God I hope your are a teacher of this art you have learned

[@ZedTBear]

I don’t think anybody else on this planet can do what you do.

[@kevin-l7r7p]

You got my subscription..you are nuts my guy...how the hell you do what you do..defies belief

[@MrLamf2939sh]

Amazing skill! How much would this repair run?

[@MEGAMIGA]

If you know The Last V8 then you are old school! 😍

[@Teste-gp7bm]

Ceramic caps will age over time and to restore them, some manufacturers recommend "baking" the board at 150C for 30min. They will be new after that. Not sure if that process is happening but it is the only type of capacitor that has this type of change. Others when failed need replacing.

[@katalinks]

If highend gpu-s wasn’t expensive as these days,i’m sure there wasn’t so many videos about gpu repairs as frequently as now.Good for you I guess and awesome work as always

[@danijelilic7286]

btw DARK souls SPAVN SOUND IS GG WP

[@ariewijaya1679]

For quick way to determine if 12v short on drmos try to look if core not glow meaning not drmos that broken

[@SEBKEB]

the best insane job Tony

[@Martin-wj6um]

My pigeon brain thinks that cracks should be grinded all the way through otherwise crack might continue to progress. Anyways thats how metalurgists treat them....idk. Master at work, enjoy watching, kudos Sir!

[@Del_UK]

Capacitor:- if it has become fully discharged, when it starts to accept a charge again it creates resistance as it charges back up. Similar to how rechargeable batteries will not charge in normal circuit, yet if you bypass the charging circuit they will start to accept a charge again. (Battery operated power tools common issue) This is also a sign of component starting to fail. If they designed the PCIE slot correctly and you did not need a tab to hold the component in a slot. There would be no need for the stupid tab.

[@Multimeter1]

Amazing work as always

[@rongray8934]

Why did your grinding result in so many little cartoon characters? Many little faces. Good quality video right here. Well done. Do you ever change the wire size with amperage as a concern?

[@Universal-Dilettant]

Even though the conductor tracks are wide, the layers are very thin and the cross-section is correspondingly very small. So appearances can be deceiving. Tony also uses thicker wire from time to time if he thinks it is necessary.

[@mx-gaming87]

What about 4080 supers with 3 Fan design ? They have the same problems with repairs? I only buy Zotac Edition because they have 5 year guarantee and i never make unvolted cards or overclock them. For the 4070 ti super TUF Asus Edition is the best for noise and Temperature. But only 2 years guarantee is not enough. So i never had massive problems with Zotac.

[@Universal-Dilettant]

The number of fans and the resulting length of the card is completely irrelevant with this type of destruction. The stupidity of the users (sometimes even that of the PC builder), however, is the decisive factor. 😉 And again my mantra-like advice: simply support it ... support it ... support it ...

[@myRmb-vc4zh]

My god man.. So much work 😬

[@taregalkooafi8485]

Amazing work

[@jannemann_17g90]

For the Algorithm as small reward for the great work :)

[@maikbindemann5218]

Great Job. Nice Work.

[@mclashproyale8102]

Wizard level repair...holy sh*t....BUT...where is shredding cat?, maybe he on vacation?

[@yrc4184]

My favourite gpu surgeon.

[@ChupoCro]

A shorted capacitor just burns, it doesn't "turn back to the capacitor again". When Sorin is lazy and doesn't want to remove the phone's PCB to search for a shorted capacitor on the other side of a board he just increases the current while injecting voltage until the capacitor burns. Of course, you have to be relatively sure it's a capacitor and not a MOSFET or something else. You would have known that if you had prepared better for Sorin's impersonations :-)

[@gediminasm7440]

Hello @northwestrepair. Are such thin wires enough for the current flowing through it? Don't they heat up when running the GPU at full power? I ask because the primary contact area seems significantly larger. Just curious. Thank you in advance.

[@garyaudine3327]

The neurosurgeon of GPU's!!

[@ElGoogKO]

You get internet win points for that exact shao khan quote. it's one of my favorite ones.

[@de_lag1535]

where did he say the line exatly? also from which MK?

[@LifeChanger_._]

2:55 - What is the white stuff you use here>?

[@youtube4fun_894]

the music ROCK...

[@cobb5402]

Nice video you are a Pro!

[@21stcenturybohemian]

Been watching your vids for a few weeks now. Fascinating stuff. My only gripe is your testing methods. I do not mean your troubleshooting, though there are times I think you are jumping to conclusions before having any solid evidence and thus end up costing yourself a lot of unnecessary time. I mean using Furmark and things like Unigine Heaven or 3dMark at low resolution. Furmark is great at heating up a GPU and wasting power, but its not actually working the card very hard. When you run Heaven in a tiny window, you are putting zero load on the GPU and are completely CPU bound. Given the abysmal frame rates you show even in the tiny windows tells me you are using a very old CPU that cannot feed a modern GPU. You cannot properly load test something like a 3090 or 4090 with a low power CPU. By today's standards you should have at very least a high clocking 12th gen. You should not let these repairs out the door without properly testing the card in both games and workstation GPGPU/encode loads that actually move data around in memory and swamp the warps.

[@1SaG]

It's a lot better visually/design-wise, but from the comparison-reviews I found, it's also one of the worst board-partner coolers out there...like 10°C hotter than more conventional partner-cards. I think it's even worse than the FE's cooler. I also wonder how much these larger cards weigh and how people manage to crack the PCBs like that. I just sold a GB 4070 Gaming OC which weighs 1.5 kilos - which I find quite insane already for a graphics card. I never ran it with a support - because it didn't ship with one. It never showed any sag over 12 months of usage and when I took it out of the PC to ship it to the new owner, the PCIe connectors and that little "hook" down there looked brand new and totally fine. Do 4080s and 4090s weigh 5 kilos or something? Oh, and BTW: Your videos with all those cracked 4xxx-series cards made me go and grab an aftermarket support from Coolermaster - ain't paranoia wonderful? ;)

[@tourmaline07]

Personally not a fan of MSIs take , I think it looks worse than the FE cooler , with the rounded edges making it look a bit bulbous. I'd have liked a similar approach to the Sapphire Pulse Vega 56 but with the second fan on the rear rather than the front.

[@tourmaline07]

p.s these cards need supports now , they are far too big and unwieldy to just support via the slot and case brackets IMHO. My Suprim X 4080 Super weighs 2kg and comes with the support stand which I use. Not complaining about the weight, I quite like a quiet videocard and all that bare metal is cool to look at 😂

[@1SaG]

@@tourmaline07 I'm not sure I'd want to *own* the MSI either, but I do like the fact that the design is ... different. And a bit more grown up than a lot of the other coolers out there (looking at you, Inno3D iChill, KFA/Galax Gamer, etc). And I absolutely agree that folks should use the support/brace if their card comes with one - heck, my new card "only" weighs 1.5 kg again, but I'm still glad I spent 17 EUR on that aftermarket support. Still: I do wonder if user-error plays a role here with those cracks. Even if you don't drop the PC or transport it/ship it with the card installed: These cards have become more and more difficult to insert (size/bulk of the coolers, relatively thick heat-spreaders on motherboards all around the PCIe-slot, etc) ... I don't take apart/put together PCs on a daily basis, so I was reminded of that increased difficulty once again when I swapped my old card out for the new one. Used to be a lot easier when boards and cards weren't as "built-up" and bulky as most of them are these days.

[@HandsomeCat0]

hi!, i have a gt730 wich give me black screen, pls tell me how much and how can i send it to u fr repair

[@GroundGame.]

Music? It's dope. I just witnessed techo brain surgery 🧠

[@custume]

as always good video

[@Deicide112]

Where do you purchase the polishing bits?

[@Deicide112]

I ask this question on nearly every video where grinding occurs. Fingers crossed, I'll get a response. I've search Aliexpress, eBay, and Amazon to no avail.

[@stevedebeukelaer1424]

Nice work like always

[@ianwolter6142]

Oof that crack was super big! It looks terrible

[@Azureskies01]

Ive said it before ill say it again these manufacturers need to be sued because releasing cards FAR too heavy to sit in normal computer cases is not right for them to do if cracking PCBs is the result

[@Mohamed-fo6oc]

make a video fixing coil whine manually

[@Kraxt0n]

could u find out if these cracked boards have braces/brackets holding them up starting to worry about my board. (it is supported tho)...

[@---le7cy]

Im just curious, becouse nobody where i live will even attemp to do this kind of fix. How much does this repair cost?

[@hanswurst9120]

Not gonna lie, I read the title as "super cracked PCB repair"

[@Foxx_69]

Ive asked this before. Is this economical to perform This Much Repair To one card?

[@Pixx_-]

That's a sexy looking card wow

[@_Nastal]

hey northwestrepair i got a legioin 5 thats giving wierd signs of spontaneous stuttering that lasts 2 secs after shorttime of gaming is there a way you could take a look at it?

[@lietus4192]

How long does it take to repair a crack?

[@0Wayland]

Please support your heavy GPUs, people.

[@lucataszarek8782]

Hello🤝good job gratulation 👍👍👍👍👍👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👋👋👋👋👋👋👋

[@joeds3775]

Nice

[@VIKclips]

You blow my mind... I bet you could make a GPU urself...

[@TerraDoLL]

How do these cracks form?

[@FunningRast]

9:00 But I already hit the like button, if I hit it again it will unlike it….😢

[@PringlesCan-y7m]

can i have it after you're done?

[@GreenyX1]

That wasn't a crack, it was the San Andreas Fault

[@justfornow10]

You've been running into some serious headache cards lately, is this intentional? Are you a masochist or is it for the content and viewers?

[@archerbob6847]

What's the music called?

[@mrovi789]

better than factory :))

[@bonus1731]

If you crack the board, why should this even be RMA

[@simonchoudhury7576]

These videos, even for a brief moment take my depression away.

[@simonchoudhury7576]

@@thefalseshepherd3689 thank you.

[@MiriadCalibrumAstar]

@@thefalseshepherd3689 Youre referring to the fact that exercising releases iirc some sort of hormone/chemical on the brain that is antidepressant, are you referring to this?

[@John-771]

I was depressed until I discovered Meth! Yes, you too can discover meth and become an addict too! I use to be a 9-5 guy and have to come home to a nagging wife and kids. Now I choose wherever I want to sleep in my new cardboard mansion, and I don't even have to work. The local 7-11 has an all you can eat buffet in the green container behind the store. All are welcome as long as you're not seen. No, seriously kid. I hope you find your way. I have the same problem, jokes and sarcasm that make others smile are my fix.

[@MiriadCalibrumAstar]

@@John-771 LOL, its more of a satirical joke than sarcastic.

[@simonchoudhury7576]

@@John-771 thanks for the laugh bro.

[@krishbin]

The 12V short might be due to a diode. Diode start losing out it's forward voltage resistance when the temperature is high. Simply, the resistance of a diode decreases at high temperature.

[@DamirUlovec]

Makes a lot of sense.

[@ExzeroX]

Time and time again, you make technician's with 10 years experience in this field look like a joke. You hand skills, methodical approach, and just off the cuff specific knowledge in this field, its just so dam impressive. i love it. keep up the great work!

[@Djinn112]

watching you reball is artwork

[@ccmizrahi774]

I know nothing about gpu repair and only replaced my first SSD last week, but I am hooked because there is something so calming + interesting about your videos!

[@XantheFIN]

I am been amazed long time how engineers really leaves autotraced traces in that area. For real fix they need ditch PCB hook for metallic hook from cooler.

[@Universal-Dilettant]

The problem is not the material of the hooks, the conductors in this area are. And of course the stupidity of those who caused the breakages. 😇

[@NaN_INF]

The king of multilayered repairs :)

[@devilzuser0050]

Except BluRay discs. :D

[@wilburseymore5103]

You take that back. Founder Edition cards are the best. Say it, make my inner fanboy happy again.

[@northwestrepair]

FEs have no fuses. One shorted drmos, goodbye PCB.

[@wilburseymore5103]

@@northwestrepair Nvidia has to make money somehow and what better way than to blow up your own products so that us fan boys will buy more?

[@eFixcenter]

Big Fan Sir 😎

[@devilzuser0050]

Hahah, in some language that is big hair on the bottom... xDD

[@IvyMike.]

God level repair.

[@gadgestlab]

Really wish you would upload more long form videos. I prefer to see you work in real time and not fast forwarded through the repairs. Maybe a 2nd channel?

[@mimoi-meme1572]

Good job again !

[@SebbyG86]

how your hands are steady enough to solder such tiny wires is beyond me. nice job.

[@Adiko]

The short-circuiting that's happening could be because of an "latch-up" effect? 🤔

[@PhillTheeZombies]

Subscription earned. I recently bought an EVGA 3080ti FTW3 off Ebay with a "professionally installed" copper plate I'm pretty sure was used for mining.....I got the horrendous temps under control by under-volting it; but....well.....good chance I'll be seeking your services in the future - No more discord link?

[@GiGaSzS]

Interesting. I have experienced transistors becoming a short after heat treating, so some time is needed to completely cool them. Maybe they can get latched? Capacitors probably only lose capacitance.

[@havocking9224]

I am not exactly an engineer, but since capacitors are basically two rolls of sheet extremely near themselves, small defect can cause that thermal expansion will cause temporal short circuit.