MSI GS75 Stealth -RTX 2070- Review & Benchmarks

[@thechillmaster5836]

Finally a msi GS75 review. There's barely any on KZbin

[@Zerotrone]

Dual channel memory increases performance up to 30% in some laptops.

[@imopn]

Just wish they would make a model with a color accurate 4k screen

[@thomasnguyen4458]

Just got this laptop the other night.. cooling is a amazing !!! CPU only goes up to 68c and GPU goes up to 72

[@Nagapillow]

Thomas Nguyen which model, if you don’t mind? I’m considering the 2060 model

[@thomasnguyen4458]

@@Nagapillow I got the rtx 2070 model with 512 gb.. I added a 1tb SSD today

[@Nagapillow]

Thomas Nguyen Are you getting those temperatures idle, stress test, or gaming?

[@thomasnguyen4458]

@@Nagapillow gaming. playing games like WoW, apex, fortnite, anthem all at around those temps

[@shallettedelrosario33]

@@thomasnguyen4458 are those temps from the stock paste/pads? Or have you got them changed?

[@TGuyHD]

So here's the idea " im going to rob a bank to get my taxes and tuition back then I will rob another bank to buy this laptop "

[@iSpike]

LIKE #555, Thank you for this great review. I just purchased the i9 version with 240Hz Ultra-fast refresh rate and Now waiting for it to be delivered. I notice that there are NO reviews of this i9 version here on KZbin and found you the next best thing. Thank you for Sharing. Cheers from Western Australia

[@j.e9971]

I got mine a week ago. This thing is amazing. I threw some liquid metal on the GPU and CPU, fujipoly pads, undervolted and overclocked it. This thing does NOT break 80C via GPU and rarely brakes 70C via CPU while gaming (Anthem, Metro Exodus, FFXV tested). Minimal light bleeding, little coil whine (that has gone away 99%), and the chassis is CONSIDERABLY more stronger than even the 2019 GS65. I am keeping this bad boy forever!

[@lalitrathore3863]

J. Earon W. How's the built quality? I don't care about premium feel.. seeing the flexes on this thing.. I'm just scared it might break with a little too pressure. Do share your views.

[@j.e9971]

Lalit Rathore As stated above, the chassis is considerably more stronger than the GS65, even compared to the 2019 version. Yes, there is flex if you bend / push hard enough on the chassis. This isn’t a Razer Blade 15 that has a single block of aluminum. The aluminum is however thicker and way more sturdier than I would’ve imagined. It’s well above passable by my standards, which are quite strict. I will be keeping this until they make a newer version that potentially (rumors) rivals the “single block of aluminum” style of the RB15.

[@j.e9971]

Lalit Rathore if you apply HARD amounts of pressure then it will flex a bit, but it’s very well reinforced and the plastic doesn’t feel flimsy or cheap like last years model. The hinges also don’t allow the screen to wobble as bad as I thought it would, however I took the liberty to open up the chassis, put a bit of epoxy on each hinge to strengthen them for future use. Works like a charm!

[@nooob901]

What is the limit for undervolting ?

[@mahefareboza2090]

GREAAAT REVIEW, thank you so much. I am planning on buying a laptop but still hesitating btw the MSI GS75 and alienware m17 (i've seen a lot complaining abt its cooling system though) ? Which one would you recommend?

[@axelfoley1406]

Same boat as you....Debating btw MSI, Digital Storm, Alienware (I have an older one) and Origin. I've read that MSI has horrible support, possibly the worst. Alienware (Dell) and Apple have excellent... Hard decision. But, I feel any tech device can and will fail eventually...Having tech support and a good warranty is priceless.

[@axelfoley1406]

But man, the MSI stealth models look AMAZING. Another option for thin laptop is Razer....

[@lorenz9956]

@@axelfoley1406 it's depends where you buy it

[@SC-ec9fx]

Little too shaky and zoom issues but over all great info and really liked the disassembly!!

[@fabrizio-6172]

It's amazing and... Which one are the alternative with 17"? I see many 15 just a few with 17

[@Soldiershak]

I don't know what you mean, but the gs75 is a 17 inch on a 15 inch body

[@yoby60]

Yay! I cant wait for mine

[@elragnara]

U like it ?

[@yoby60]

@@elragnara highly recommend!

[@elragnara]

@@yoby60 I order mine today

[@elragnara]

How is the battery 🔋 life only watching videos or facebook

[@zacharyvanoostenrijk93]

Got mine almost 2 weeks ago. Love it!!! I play Far Cry 5 and Far Cry New Dawn without fail

[@zacharyvanoostenrijk93]

Updated the geforce drivers and now can play rdr2

[@damir6536]

Zachary Van Oostenrijk you got discord?

[@kubilaytasdemir.]

@@zacharyvanoostenrijk93 how much ram slot was full ?

[@BrandonGallemore]

Just bought this today. Can't wait to get it.

[@Holyboy019780]

I’m sold! Great review. Thank you sir.

[@nooob901]

I got mine a few weeks ago , it's so nice , cooling is so good but the fan is loud , they always say that the speakers are poor but it was good enough for me , I give it 9/10 because of the fan noise

[@toplee6447]

Are you referring to the fan noise while gaming? How about the fan noise level in other scenarios. I just ordered a p75.

[@nooob901]

@@toplee6447 yes fan noise in gaming , at doing regular task , probably you won't hear any noise

[@toplee6447]

@@nooob901 Thanks！

[@alipacheco5877]

Seems easy to disassemble, the gs65 had most of the disassembly under the chassis, this one has most of the screws in the cover and just a couple small ones to finish taking out the board.

[@jeanaustinsolomon5594]

Is this laptop is useful for technical softwares like autocad ansys matlab solidworks 3D modelling?

[@robertrandall4974]

How does this compare against the Asus zephyrus s with the same RTX 2070 GPU...in respect to temperatures

[@mohammednihal1128]

Junior Randall zephyrus is better when it comes to temperatures.

[@liv2grind409]

Also this Laptop is much bigger so keep in mind.

[@ORIJINN_STUDIO]

"if you are looking for something a little bit average tune into this review " I just dropped 2500 on this thing

[@VRtechman]

WTH Man!? 😳😱

[@pipebomber04]

Finally! correct weight conversions.

[@Gamers4511]

You just ripped off that heat shield can you put it back on? And could you please do a tear down video on how to upgrade the ram. Please because so many of us have single channel and don’t know how to upgrade the ram on this complex machine.

[@originelltnamn]

This video made me complete my purchase. Thanks for a great video!

[@salaahkhayr2398]

How is the machine??

[@paulyd0021]

Hi, is the heat shield cover on the laptop important? The one I bought from GenTech didn't have it installed. I'm assuming it was removed during custom upgrades.

[@Ahldor]

Maybe re-coolpasting the CPU would help lower its temperature?

[@carlostejada9183]

Gente he...if you don't mind me asking. Where did you ordered yours? I really want this bad MOFO but I don't know where to order it from. Thanks and great reviews as always.

[@shallettedelrosario33]

They sell it lol.. link is in the description

[@tekguru6213]

Very professional review. Thank you. Subscribed.

[@mrspanky369]

how much should it cost for a ram upgrade on the stealth 65 thin has 16 i want 32 , thank you =)

[@technocricket]

less then $100.00USD

[@Voltedge89]

I wanted to upgrade to this generation badly after seeing prices and the bad performence jump from 10 series I will skip this generation from my gs60 6700hq 970m

[@pablosamuelestradaochoa4127]

Great review. Do you guys do international shipping (mexico?)

[@joseluisvargasvaca2231]

@gentechpc could you please make a review for the asus rog strix scar II with the 2070 rtx?

[@anas71600]

MSI number one laptop gaming

[@vfplayer]

Why don’t you have the power cord plugged in? Wouldn’t it most likely be throttling right off the bat if it is running off of battery? Now at about the half-way mark you plug it in... Weird way to take your baseline temps.

[@archmohammed6252]

compare to this one MSI GS75-9SE-256 MY which one is more better for cooling system please..?

[@2xHooligan]

Does removing the heat shield void the warranty?

[@andreashofreiter6176]

just wait till the fan fails... have fun unscrewing everything just to clean or to replace it

[@mohamedxxc726]

Hi gentech Thank you so much for the test would you recommend me the razer blade 15 at 2350 rtx 2060 or the msi gs75 stealth rtx 2070 max q thank you.

[@marcusm5127]

Gs75. Razer blade has lower performance and way less battery.

[@jordanbennenbroek9042]

Just a question. I'm hitting 100c max playing Dota 2 @ 1440p, or Modern warfare @ 1080p. This is with my P75 which is essentially the same as the GS75, just silver. 2060 + 9750h. Totally stock. Does this sound faulty to you out of the box?

[@alipacheco5877]

Seems it might be, try undervolting and it should solve your problem.

[@jordanbennenbroek9042]

@@alipacheco5877 MSI North America confirmed it shouldn't be hitting 100c. Currently in the process of getting a credit. I really don't like the undervolting suggestion as I feel like although it's something you can use to lower temps - it shouldn't be something you have to do to prevent a brand new machine from hitting tjunction max. Appreciate the reply though. Cheers

[@alipacheco5877]

Jordan Bennenbroek For sure man! Wish you good luck.

[@Zombatic]

thanks for the in depth review.

[@Bonkbork]

Wheres the mic located for this laptop?

[@kaiyuanyu6705]

im in hk rn and i saw msi ge75 8sf with good price,but it shows geforce rtx 2070 8gb gddr5,whats the different with that?

[@joseluisvargasvaca2231]

Could you please male a review for the new lenovo legion Y740?

[@TheSergio1021]

I thought the two fans were for the graphics card, not cpu

[@dagoat8319]

Is it possible to change the battery if it dies after years?

[@GenTechPC]

Yes you can, there is a cable from battery to motherboard, you just need to disconnect it and you can remove the battery.

[@therealfirstone]

One can dream ... right?

[@odorouswo1f]

Does the keyboard backlight really blink like that or it it just the camera refresh?

[@only1msladyt]

I think is refresh

[@odorouswo1f]

@@only1msladyt ok. good

[@alicanyuceer5799]

Hı, I cant decide, should I buy GS 75 or GT 75 series, please help.

[@enenes14]

GT75 serisi daha çok masaüstünü kucağına getirme görevinde. Daha güçlü Ancak daha ağır ve kalın. Gs75 günlük heryere götürüp oyun oynayabileceğin bi laptop, ince ve oldukça hafif. Pil ömrü açısından da arada çok fark var.

[@alicanyuceer5799]

@@enenes14 merhaba. Tanıtım icin teşekkürler ayrıca. Aslına bakarsan oyundan ziyade ( sadece dota2 oynuyor-dum) Mimari çizim ve üç boyutlu görselleştirme için edinecegim. Workstation ve quadrolar hem daha pahalı hem de çevremde kullanıcıları olmadığından GTX almayı planliyordum. Bu konuda bilgin varsa, duymayı çok isterim. Öte yandan daha çok evde kullanacağım PC yi. Performans olarak bilemiyorum hangisi daha iyi kullanıcı açısından lakin GS75 i daha avantajlı buluyorum.

[@thanatos8145]

Alican Yüceer Aldınız mı almadınız mı bilmiyorum fakat bende hem dotacıyım hemde gs75 9Sf kullanıcısıyım.Hala sorularınız varsa memnuniyetle cevaplarım

[@anirudhtv]

ITS LIKE ASMR

[@MichaelRHead-zv2zf]

are all the ssd ports pcie or are some sata?

[@coffeebreakhero3743]

Please do the 2060 version

[@thechillmaster5836]

Pretty sure its the same except graphics

[@coffeebreakhero3743]

@Georg C lol

[@eyedearsb]

Yeah would like to see how they compare in performance and also weight

[@peqbox]

Young-Sun Teh they all weigh the same, only difference is that they vary in performance.

[@Pewlaser]

Can anyone tell me if it is possible to get this thing more quiet with undervolting? i dont mind the performance drop, i just want something that can play on medium setting with 120+ fps without sounding like a hurricane

[@MrJdubc]

Does the 2 extra m.2 slots support NVMe PCIe SSDs?

[@maxsolo2652]

JDUBC 2 PCIe and 1 SATA. I really like the idea of not wasting space for 2.5HDDs, and that the battery takes so much space and little space is wasted.

[@michalis5817]

Does it bend around the keyboard? Thank you

[@quyrew]

why did msi opt for the 80watt 2080 max q instead of the 90 watt variant, the performance difference is quite noticeable. I hope there isn't any other variants for the rtx 2070 max q

[@Dakuraida]

Hi, do you know if it's possible to put the 82 whr of the gs75 in the ge75?

[@quyrew]

@@Dakuraida i dont think you can because it may not fit in the chasis of the ge75 and those batteries are specific to the model

[@Dakuraida]

@@quyrew Ok, in this case do you know if there are batteries for the ge75 with great capacity, for example 70 or 80 whr?

[@quyrew]

@@Dakuraida maybe some brands can do custom batteries for this laptop although i dont know much about the quality compared to the original

[@Dakuraida]

@@quyrew Ok, thanks, because i've read the ge75 8sf hasn't a good battery life.

[@raisingbarssince1978]

I will buy a you a gimbal for Christmas. Apart from that, great video.

[@cemsengul16]

How can it be a 15 inch chassis with a 17.3 inch lcd panel? That sounds like bullshit marketing to me unless someone can explain it to me? Thanks.

[@GenTechPC]

Because they use thin bezel now so the footprint are pretty close to the 15.6" laptops that still using wide bezels.

[@cemsengul16]

@@GenTechPC it's funny that Apple laptops are the fat bezel machines today. The GS75 is a little smaller than a 17 inch Macbook Pro from the past because it is 16:9 instead of 16:10 and also the tiny bezels. This is why I actually want to buy a 17 inch for the first time.

[@ujasmistry7482]

Thank you sir for good review 👍

[@PogUk111]

Any coil whine at all?

[@coffeebreakhero3743]

How come the cheaper 2060 has more fps?

[@coffeebreakhero3743]

@Eije Robinson still tho

[@albertwesker4266]

@@coffeebreakhero3743 power limits....

[@ahmadhammad12]

Coffee Break Hero because mq sucks

[@Soldiershak]

I believe the 2060 the same as the desktop version, avoid Max q

[@Drzestrella19]

@@Soldiershak get the 2060 and get more heat and thermal throttle i returned the 2060 version for the 2070max q for thermal reason. Now with the rtx2070 max q i have no issues at all. Maybe a little less performance but temp on point and no frames drop so is a win win.

[@cripticdestiny]

Chassis flex on this is worse than gs65. How would you type on that keyboard anyway without getting your palms on the touchpad?

[@Drzestrella19]

I have it and i type perfectly fine.

[@robv1488]

I have the same issue

[@226taran]

do you guys ship to india ?

[@chrisvasquez1443]

Can anyone tell me if the PCI m.2 slot is gen 3-4.

[@nooob901]

Ordered since February 💔

[@joseluisvargasvaca2231]

Can anyone help me? I cant decide either to get the msi gs75 with 2060 rtx, the rog strix scar II with 2070 rtx, the lenovo legion y740 with 2060 rtx or the msi ge75 with 2070 rtx

[@admiralv8538]

i giving msi gs75 back as i found it weak battery life and when i ran final fantasy windows edition the frame rate was so bad also with forza horizon 4 i had to turn down the graphic settings to average to get the frame rate higher so i wouldn't go for msi gs75 id prob go with whatever you feel tbh if u want the rog strix scar 2 go for it but like i said this is all up to you whatever your gut thinks get it lol

[@Ahldor]

@@admiralv8538 Weak battery and bad framerates - what did you compare the GS75 with?

[@admiralv8538]

@@Ahldor nothing man but i gave it back got my refund il wait for better laptops i did like it tho but if i want msi i prob go with GE series instead or something but like i said il wait for the right time.

[@Ahldor]

@@admiralv8538 ö

[@Ahldor]

@@admiralv8538 i just got my GS75 and I tried a few games already. I had to change to Performance mode in MSI dragon center, and change the windows energy setttings to maximum power to get the games to eork fine. I suggest you look at those settings.

[@MyNameAndrewTan]

Max Q or not? Cause i only found the Max Q type

[@alipacheco5877]

Ignasius Andre Tan Max-Q

[@TiberiusEmpire]

Love it!

[@darkandedgy1457]

Think vr is a possibility on this

[@raymonda2032]

This or the asus rog zephyrus rtx 2070?

[@ahmadhajj7497]

why are the keyboard rbg flickering.

[@antong.5642]

Camera Framerate and Keyboard RGB lightup rate (dont know exakt name for that lol) are odd to each other, so it comes to flickering in video, our eyes are too weak to see the fast blinking of the LEDs

[@marcusm5127]

The fans a radial so they suck from under the computer and exhaust trough the side and back vents.

[@KING0SISQO]

This laptop has weak performance. It got a good overall fire strike score. But I’ve never seen a 2070 max q with a graphics score lower than a 1070 on a laptop. 16637? My laptop 1070 gets over 17600. I’ve seen other 2070 max q hit over 18000 for its graphic score

[@vivekgautam6237]

thats the main reason i cant switch to this..i already had msi gt72 with 1070(non maxq)..and these rtx 2070 max q laptops r slower than that..even rtx2080 maxq is underwhelming..will be getting the raider series..to hell with their gs series

[@alipacheco5877]

The fire strike benchmark doesn’t demonstrate the actually performance of the rtx cards, timespy does a better job. Secondly, something reviewers don’t touch on is dual vs single channel ram, as you could see it only had one ram slot populated, this can actually decrease performance by as much as 30% on certain games, if you decide to get one, get dual channel ram!

[@KING0SISQO]

Ali Pacheco I agree with everything you said. The only reason why I didn’t say timespy is because it wasn’t benchmarked. I think firestrike is getting the stage now like the original 3D mark 11 where new cards was scoring the same as the previous gen when in reality the performance was greater. So I agree. I have been preaching that timespy is the real benchmark test now but it based on dx12. Firestrike while not a true representation anymore, is still useful to compare dx11 performance. But time spy is where it’s at. A 2070 max q should get around 6700. That is above a 1080 max q. The aero 15 x9 2070 max q only scored around 6000 in time spy. That also got similar firestrike scores as shown in video. Unfortunately for the aero. Dual channel didn’t improve the FPS or score on a level that the blade 15 got. And last generation the blade was one of the lower end performers with a 1060. So that’s saying a lot about how this unit is stacking up imo.

[@KumaMech]

i have the exact same laptop in the vid. the performance is really underwhelming. GPU is locked at 80W max power. i purposely took out a stick of ram from my old desktop (i7 4790k + gtx980), and my gs60 (i7 4710HQ + gtx 970m) to compare its real performance in games. the desktop and gs75 were able to perform equivalently at 1080p, max settings, max AA in warframe, and destiny 2, while in anthem the gs75 was averaging 55fps. my desktop was averaging 48fps and my gs60 was averaging 37fps. 4+years and such disappointing results. the most annoying thing about it all, the gs75's cooling system is MORE than capable of getting increased performance. but the 80W TDP limit on the chip inside the gs75 is really killing it. my gs60's gpu will use 90W and it cools the laptop really well, and the cooling system in that laptop is much smaller (max gpu load for 1 hr = 75°C)! i agree with you that the performance is poor. you can get the same results as this laptop, on a razer blade 15 with 1070 maxq on the game mode or whatever it's called.

[@alipacheco5877]

Emad unfortunate, I have the 2070 for the Razer Blade, since it’s about the same price as the msi with better build. I love the performance and form factor so far. Hope you find something you like.

[@StreetFamzz]

Come on man. At least do a proper gaming benchmark for a gaming laptop. This was just lazy.

[@xenonsha3324]

Than you buy it and make one mr. Entitled viewer.

[@thisspace4rent271]

awesome, finally a GOOD review of the gs75

[@3948-0]

guy who voiced this video sounds like those text to speech programs

damn that's LOUD!!!!

[@josephwilson4165]

Good job guys :) for me best 2019 gaming laptop 😄

[@desirousfive5285]

How much for the GS75 RTX 2070 ?

[@Drzestrella19]

$2299.99 us.

[@djRoyalTee]

I still have my GS-72 but I'm eyeing a new one w/TB3.. #djrtnyc

[@RathaSiv]

I still can't decide between GE75 RTX 2080 and GS75 RTX 2080. GE is just a bit heavier but it's not the problem for me.

[@KumaMech]

if you don't really care about the looks or getting an extra few hours of battery life, get the ge75. it is a much more capable machine. the display, keyboard are the same. the big trackpad on the gs75 makes it a bit annoying to type with. the ge75 feels much more sturdier as well IMO.

[@RathaSiv]

@@KumaMech Thank you so much for sharing your experience! Your answer quite helps me a lot. However the price is very aggressive in EU.. but I'll order a GE very soon.

[@vfplayer]

No Thunderbolt 3 on the GE75.😡 That is a deal breaker for me. Why can’t one laptop have everything I want for $2?!😜

[@KumaMech]

@@vfplayer thunderbolt is nice to have as a unified docking solution and/or for multimonitor setups... but the amount of overhead thunderbolt 3 needs on current devices for graphics dock, is going to end up resulting in less performance using a thunderbolt graphics dock, relative to using the built in rtx 2070 in a ge75. many people reporting that they are only getting 1060 performance from a 1080ti when using a thunderbolt graphics dock. the findings for the poor graphics dock performance made me personally care less about thunderbolt 3... paired with the expense of graphics docks.

[@1babo]

This laptop is a whole ass disappointment bro. I had an alienware m17 2070 but it started giving me lots of issues within just a few days so I returned it and got my money back. I looked at this and many clerks recommended it, I looked at a few reviews before I bought it and it looked very good, only issue was since the Alienware was on sale for 2.1k I had to add about 200 to get this laptop. I brought it home and noticed very low performance in csgo for example, then I saw people say how it didn’t have dual channel ram which I auto assumed it would but ig not. I think I will he taking this back too and just sticking with my desktop. :(

[@sarahdrakengard9438]

Working perfect for me, Even before I upgraded the ram to Dual Channel. oh well....

[@1babo]

@@sarahdrakengard9438 i hated it, for 2300 i should be getting something that should get well over 60 fps in most games. i returned it, got the better performing and more storage alienware m17 and got 200 dollars back so i couldnt be happier. but im glad the msi is good for you, just wasnt what i was expecting for the price ig,

[@sarahdrakengard9438]

Were you playing in sport mode, or did you set Dragon center to comfort? I stick to sport so that it only clocks up a little bit when I play intense games. Plus I was looking for an everything use machine with an elegant look. I understand what you mean though, But in most cases, if I game on the go, I don't worry about the top of the line settings. But on a desktop, I would be upset if it didn't look like it came from a 20 series card. TBH, I think I am in the minority when I say that I like the max q design, even though it isn't the full version. I almost would have went with the m17 as well if it wasn't for the elegant design.

[@kevinwilliams2383]

You must had the 8 gen cpu because I heard the 9th grm cpus have dual channel ram

[@rileyoward]

GE 75 is better i feel like

[@Solid800]

MSI MAKES SEXY ASS LAPTOPS.

[@pipebomber04]

WRONG WEIGHT CONVERSIONS ITS 3.15 KILOGRAMS OVERALL!!!!!! 6 POUNDS AND 15 OUNCES IS NOT EQUAL TO 6.15 POUNDS COME ON!!!!! 6 POUNDS IS 2.72 KILOGRAMS 15 OUNCES IS 0.425 KILOGRAMS ADD IT UP ITS 3.15 KILOGRAMS YOUVE BEEN HAVING THIS ERRORS FOR YEARS!!!!

[@Vrloopje]

*Try to hold the damn camera steady next time, sjeez!* 😡

[@RangeVibeZ]

Doug demuro 😂 👍🏻

[@elvirredzepovic6898]

Heard of this thing called "TRIPOD" ? It's made so that people don't get seasick watching amateurs shooting video.

[@1cecreampize197]

I am poor Can't afford Can you give me this?

[@ابوعريب-ض5س]

Give it to me

[@davidchoef84]

Great machine with the worst screen I ever seen, massive ble3from the screen yellow color in the corners and overall a loooow bright display

[@henricsjoberg1890]

check this out @

[@morcatna4767]

ayeee pacific rim lol!

GTX 1070 is still faster then a RTX 2070 Max-Q and only a few frames less then a RTX 2070, so the 500$ cap isn´t worth!

[@lalitrathore3863]

Jay ́s Gaming Place if we talk about the laptop versions of the GPUs.. 2070 kicks the butt of 1080 . You must have confused it with desktop GPU 1070.

[@stevew145]

Msi box game weak

[@legelf]

I make 0$a month lol xd

[@eldadyefet978]

Can anyone help me? I cant decide either to get the msi gs75 with 2060 rtx, the rog strix scar II with 2070 rtx, the lenovo legion y740 with 2060 rtx or the msi ge75 with 2070 rtx