MSI MEG X570 ACE Motherboard VRM Review & Features

Buildzoid reviews MSI's X570 ACE VRM and PCB quality, talking briefly about the best X570 motherboards he's seen so far for Ryzen 3000 / Zen2 CPUs.
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[@GamersNexus]

We've done a lot of these for X570 now. You can find the full list below! Find Buildzoid here: kzbin.info/door/rwObTfqv8u1KO7Fgk-FXHQ MSI X570 Gaming Plus (mid-range): kzbin.info/www/bejne/eprRgqaLg8qjpbc Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite (mid-range-ish): kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2K9p5-BaM90rK8 ASRock X570 Taichi: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYbXp6Z3oqlmjdU Gigabyte X570 Xtreme (high-end): kzbin.info/www/bejne/p6Tdqat_qtJ9hbM Gigabyte X570 Master: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gquXkKaqmMuSlZI

[@nevcairiel]

Hope the MSI Gaming Pro Carbon is coming up, for something in between this and the Gaming Plus, might hit a sweet spot.

[@acekorneya1]

Buildzoid should do a test to see if having one less power connection actually benefit or doesn't the motherboard or OC.. because he always says it doesn't help and he should test that and prove it with tests...

[@JasonMohammed]

I didn't see much coverage of Asus boards at events, neither on these current videos. Is it just a coincidence?

[@louisburley8669]

A teardown of the mb would be a pretty cool video.

[@jamesthomson8659]

@@JasonMohammed Check out Buildzoids' channel, he has done an ASUS board.

[@dongurudebro4579]

30 Minutes VRM Analysis!? What did you do with Buildzoid! Buildzoid, if you see that, dont complain on unnecessary features like an extra 4/8pin or on dropped debug features if you´r held hostage in the next video so that we can help you. ;-)

[@jvgoransson]

It was pretty short, wasn't it?

[@Jontae4288]

Someone save him

[@skitballesnorapa]

I'm going to buy this motherboard and connect BOTH 8-pin connectors. Just to mess with Buildzoid

[@badsamaritan8223]

Straddle the two connectors with one 8-pin plug.

[@AstralS7orm]

I think this can use an extra 8 pin for PCIe too instead of the molex... So if that's more convenient for an unknown reason, you can use it. (Like I think MEG X399 can I suspect.)

[@MrLunithy]

Using two separate power supply's.

[@PhreakDarkSoul]

Yepp, I also did. Why? Because it has 2, my Dark Power Pro 10 has a cable for it and of course the most important thing: Both 8 pin are connected to the same connector on the PSU. And, last but not least: If a graphics card has 2 connectors, it won't run with full power (or even not at all) if you don't connect both... Now I must find a place for my 3 remaining SYS_FAN connectors in my case... hard challenge, but I will succeed! BTW: What can I install instead a water pump... it feels sad if I only leave this connector unused. *scnr*

[@7thmoosefromtheright]

Make sure you buy a molex to sata to 8 pin conversion

[@dongurudebro4579]

It has to be said that Steve really got good into putting those sponsor spots in, respect. :)

[@hingewichsterfick]

To be honest I hate that, it really annoys me because it is so interruptive, i would rather put them into the beginning than in the middle of a sentence of BZ (i know, buildzoid wasnt in the middle of a sentence but happend quite often)

[@landwolf00]

One of the optional configurations with x570 is to have either 8 sata ports or 4 sata + 1 NVME slot. They went for the latter.

[@nogravitas7585]

I hope one of the mid-range boards picks that first option since I'm not convinced NVMe will last the test of time or that it will ever prove useful for anyone but video editors. remember mSATA and m.2 SATA?

[@C_C-]

@@pl0dman925 pcie-4 is backwards compatible... the 570 chipset allows you to assign a set of lanes to either sata or m.2. Don't know why they couldn't have included the ports and made it user configurable tho.

[@AndrewFremantle]

@@nogravitas7585 mSATA and m.2 SATA present no performance advantage over standard SATA3 connectors, only physical compactness. NVMe presents _both_ a major performance advantage as well as physical compactness. I don't think it's going anywhere.

[@C_C-]

@@pl0dman925 The x570 chip is essentially a plex, it has four lanes of pci-e to the cpu then provides pci-e lanes, sata and usb. It doesn't matter what combination of i/o you attach to x570, it's 4 lanes back to the cpu.

[@landwolf00]

There are 4 choose 2 options: 1 4x pcie 4 nvme 2 2x pcie 4 nvme A pcie 4 4 lane slot 4 additional sata ports Motherboard vendor chooses, though the sata option uses only up to 24 gbps of bandwidth, whereas the others have about 64 gbps theoretical.

[@Verpal]

I believe this Buildzoid is actually not the buildzoid we know, this is a clone manufactured by GamerNexus in GN dungeon. True Buildzoid does not produce 30 minutes video, true Buildzoid do hours long mid night rambling that viewers are suppose to pick up scraps and piece on their own, unfiltered, unedited, and unchained. Builzoid (or clone), if you are being held hostage, blink twice in the start of your next video.

[@gjdud12]

we can definitely pick up his eye blinking sound with youtube.

[@Tallnerdyguy]

It is the nvidia ai cloning

[@Doobie3010]

Hes the "Super" version-The same,only quicker.

[@Verpal]

@@Doobie3010 No way, if he is super edition, he would have wore a green superman suit made by shiny reflective material and will praise lord Jensen and the say ''may the GeForce be with you'' at the end of every sentence!

[@Jontae4288]

Yep cough twice and say post code two times and I’ll call in the navy seals to save you

[@jogeem5480]

If I've learned anything from all these x570 boards it's that the extra 8-pin is useless

[@jogeem5480]

@@LuggageStardate pretty sure pcie and ram are powered by the 24 pin

[@Felix-ve9hs]

Unless you want to overclock your Ryzen 9 3950X with LN2

[@SPAMPANMAN]

its cleaner power, its the same as using two different 8 pins on your gpu vs using one cable with two 8 pin ends, technically the card will be fine even overclocked with one set of wires but doubling it gives you twice the grounds and power for smoother delivery..

[@Felix-ve9hs]

@@SPAMPANMAN "cleaner Power"? The only thing a second 8 Pin does is reduce the Resistance of the wires by half - it doesn't have some kind of capacitance or something that would "smoothe" the Voltage ...

[@AstralS7orm]

@@Felix-ve9hs Wire can have slight capacitance but it is irrelevant, the VRM has its own smoothing anyway.

[@meteormedia7021]

Dont really like these heavily edited Buildzoid videos. His rambling (while a bit confused sometimes) consists of mostly very useful, relevant information and should not be edited out.

[@JP-uk9uc]

I appreciate the detail. Not too many videos this deep that gets into the actual circuitry.

[@george_moussa]

I can sense the literal pure rage in your voice when you discuss the extra 8-pin power connector

[@dynastes4938]

My favorite board, personally. I don't mind the four SATA ports either. Seems strange, sure, but on the other hand there's really enough M.2 on X570 boards to compensate, especially if, like me, you won't use HDDs anymore anyway. What do you think about the cooling solution with the heatpipe running between chipset and vrm coolers? Sorry, if you mentioned it, but keeping my concentration up after work proves more difficult than I thought :D Anyway, nice that you are doing these vids for GN frequently now. Good stuff.

[@erikaperez4316]

I mean do you really have 4 HDD or sata SSD?

[@btudrus]

I use 5x 4TB SATA/SAS drives in a raid for data storage. What's wrong with that?

[@dynastes4938]

@@btudrus And what would be wrong with that? You are part of a very small minority. That's fine.

[@btudrus]

@@dynastes4938 Well, actually the X570 has 2x4 lanes which can either be PCIe or SATA (plus 4x SATA which cannot be anything else). I find it best for a motherboard to have either U.2 or Oculink connector on at least one of these ports an the ability to choose between SATA and PCIe x4 in the BIOS. (And it's much more practical, for example a U.2 -> 4x SATA cable costs about $12 and you will save space). Sadly, most of the motherboards don't have such a flexibility...

[@theunholybakery1990]

Everyone go sub to actually hardcore overclocking. He really deserves it.

[@fabiusmaximuscunctator7390]

Seems people are overwhelmed by his knowledge and his extensive deep dives. Really sad to see, just imagine him having 100k subs. How much hardware he'd be sent to produce special content no one else does!

[@VengeanceWithin]

Done and you’re right.

[@theunholybakery1990]

@@fabiusmaximuscunctator7390 yeah. It makes me sad to see that not many people want his precious knowledge.

[@1967KID]

I did I think I was in the 1st 20 subscribers.

[@theunholybakery1990]

@@1967KID nice

[@TrueMegaManiac]

"SATA ports are more useful than the OC dial." I agree. Would prefer 6 Sata ports minimum on anything not ITX.

[@Kytes93]

FINALLY A CMOS BUTTON ON THE BACK AND NOT THE FLASH ONE!! Jesus Christ.

[@FunkyTown___]

Kytes93 finally? Lol

[@SamA-gg8nk]

Admittedly a year after launch but I just bought this board and I'm loving it. The x570 unify is nowhere to be found these days and the ace was last one in stock.

[@kinkykane0607]

I have this bored 2 :) How are you getting along with it ?? The only thing I dislike is the mouse in the BIOS is laggy. Do you experience this at all ??

[@gvn-xk6eq]

​@kane it's meant to be laggy in Bios every board is like that shouldn't really be a problem because no one is ever in the bios long enough to be bothered about it.

[@Bobcat665]

I've learned SOOOOOO much about what makes a good motherboard from the 'Zoid!

[@Koeras16]

We all did. Awesome content.

[@dongurudebro4579]

@Gamers Nexus Could you please include AMD´s driver features like Radeon Chill etc. in your upcoming review - always wondered what power consumption would look like.

[@Tallnerdyguy]

They always include power draw

[@dongurudebro4579]

@@Tallnerdyguy but not with radeon chill.

[@Tallnerdyguy]

@@dongurudebro4579 fair enough, but they are focusing on performance, not how little performance you can tune them for...

[@brookspn]

The table of contents embedded in the video is just fantastic.

[@0thers1d3]

Literally learned more in this video than I've learned about everything over the last 36 years of life on this planet...

[@TheArsenalgunner28]

I’m hearing a lot of numbers and motherboard chip names...but my brain is not processing any of it 😂 All I have in conclusion, is this board is good, but also sucks for not being better

[@AhmedNSane]

2:54 I love how Buildzoid scribbles over that additional 8-pin connector like it's the face of a bully from high school. 😂🤣😂

[@takeshi7]

It only has 4 SATA ports because they added the 3rd M.2 slot to the chipset. Mobo manufacturers get an extra 4 PCIe lanes for every 4 SATA ports they remove from the chipset.

[@takeshi7]

@Grand Admiral Thrawn Steve explained it in another video and this article www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3482-amd-x570-vs-x470-x370-chipset-comparison

[@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking]

3 M.2 and 6 Sata: www.aorus.com/X570-AORUS-MASTER-rev-10

[@takeshi7]

@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking That Gigabyte board disables SATA ports if you use the 3rd M.2 slot

[@RetroAnachronist]

I love you Buildzoid. Anytime I’m considering a board, I know I can find an in depth analysis of the board from you and know if I’m getting what I’m expecting or not. Thank you.

[@addisonmartin730]

I much prefer these edited and polished Buildzoid videos. Same amount of info as videos on his channel in half as much time!

[@PainterVierax]

He doesn't cover the same hardware on the GN jobs and he also covers a lot of other subjects like details on OCing RAM or graphic cards.

[@jamesthomson8659]

Less time for us, but more time for him. He has to prepare a script and actually plan what he's going to say. He can't just ramble the way he likes to and keep it under the 30 minutes that Steve allows him.

[@combatjm89]

Only 30 minutes - I feel cheated.

[@аибе-о9ь]

u've been cheated 1.25 times, i think...

[@nicolasarenas8988]

I love these videos. It's just hard to retain all that information in your head when you try to compare each board to each other.

[@heni63]

No no no (and yes yes yes!) :) :( I can feel it's not our normal Buildzoid, he's so fast! I would say amazing work of Buildzoid of efficiency/speed and good cutting by GN! For me I prefer the Buildzoids slow versions with extra Knowledge and more honest rambling and honest more comfortable talking pace :) Whatever you are used to and prefer!

[@Doobie3010]

Steve overclocked him.

[@bernardodepadua]

This mobo is amazing for memory OC. On a generic Samsung B-die 2x8GB sticks (all I have for now - still waiting for a new g.skill kit to arrive), I could be stable up to 3600MT/s on a 3600x when testing with 2 mid tier B450 boards (Asus and Asrock) and a x470 ITX board (Biostar). But with the MSI ACE it got to 3733MT/s with same settings and AGESA. I think this PCB shielding goes a long way. This is a great basic VRM and PCB layout photo analysis, but I would love to see you guys do some real mobo reviews and testing, including testing of real mem overclocking capabilities, real VRM performance besides just thermals (load regulation, transients, ripple, etc), sensor accuracy testing, reliability testing (yes, fry those mobos!). I just went through the motherboard purchasing process and I felt totally blind. Unfortunately mobos reviews all across the web suck big time, they discourse about the box, RGB and inputs, plug in a g.skill 3200 DDR4 kit at XMP, play a bunch of games and measure the FPS (which are basically the same across all boards obviously, minus BIOS tweaks the manufacturers do to trick those tests), measure VRM temps, do a stupid manual OC with fixed 1.4V voltage, and call it a day listing ridiculous pros and cons... @gamersnexus Just send all those mobos samples towards buildzoid, a lot of testing equipment and a reviewing guideline and I'm sure he will crush them, and you'll have content like nowhere else on the web. See the TV reviews on rtings.com to be inspired, those are real reviews with real hardcore testing (your case reviews are also very good!)...

[@bernardodepadua]

David Jones Yes, I own the MSI Ace x570 board. Awesome board, way superior to the other 2 B450 I own, and memory overclocking goes a long way in it because of the shielded memory tracks on the motherboard.

[@laharl2k]

Why do manufacturers still keep on putting overclocking gimmicks which arent even any good? OC is a fine tunning process, not a generic press to go faster one fits all thing.... I remember trying the automatic oc on my 1055T when i first bought and panicking one i booted and saw 1.5V for 3.3ghz.....just in case the boost clock is 3.5@1.45v, and after disabling boost ive been running at 3.5ghz@1.35v for 10 years. Auto-overclockers are crap.

[@randyrodriguez4186]

i think there is only four sata ports due to the fact that M.2 ssd'd are becoming more popular, in addition to ssd prices getting lower for higher capacity. i could have 6TB without needing a single sata cable

[@Raivo_K]

Looking forward to MSI X570 Creation VRM analysis...

[@BAdventures]

Like how you covered the DRAM options and speeds to consider 😎👍 Maybe you can review the MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI Motherboard.

[@jerrynovotnik]

After you are done with analyzing all the boards, could you make a summary video where you recommend stuff based also on the bios, features and price? Some recommendation pairing for each of Ryzen processors. That would be sick. Love your content.

[@Tallnerdyguy]

Might have to wait until they release....

[@btudrus]

The board only has 4x SATA, because it has not enough lanes from the chipset to have more. The x570 chipset has following 20 lanes (not counting USB3.*/2.0): - 4x SATA - 8x SATA or PCIe - 8x PCIe So with MSI MEG x750 ACE you have: - 4x SATA = 4 lanes - 4x PCIe x4 in x16 slot = 4 lanes - 2x 4x M.2 NVME (or 1x SATA) = 8 lanes - 1x PCIe x1 (either PCIE_E2 or PCIE_E4 - which is totaly stupid) = 1 lane - 1x I211 LAN, 1x RTL8125 = 2 lanes - 1x M2/type E for WIFI = 1 lanes So, all in all 20 lanes, you have nowhere you could get more from, so no more than 4 SATA. That said you can probably put a 2x SATA adapter into the M2/E slot (as WiFi for a stationary PC is just stupid and usually you get a cable). With this you get around 450-500 MB/s per drive (if it is PCIe gen3 adapter) which is more than enough for the usuall rotational discs, it is not enough for SSD's.

[@greenfoxgrasstail2534]

Thanks. This helped me avoid buying a way to overprized board. The explanation is sound for me and i was wavering between a taichi 570 and this. The daisy chain should work better for the ryzen 9 3900x for me. Now i only need to wait for those cores to come into the market again ... before 3950x comes and i fell pressured to take that. Even if 16 cores are way to much for anything i would do.

[@SharkWithADrill]

Bro the 570 Taichi has a HUGE problem The GPU exhausted (axial, not blower) goes right over the chipset fan intake, resulting in over temperature protection activating on the chipset and a system shutdown

[@ardent963]

Love the big brain on this guy! I'm not an electrical Engineer, and I'm betting he is. But I could fully follow and understand everything he was saying. Great presentation skills! I'm just wondering (and assuming) if the Ace "Max" version, is of the same quality, and what the differences are.

[@7rich79]

Looks like a very promising board. To me 4 sata ports is absolutely enough. I think the last time I ran out of sata ports was when drives were about 60GB in size and having both a dvd player and a cd writer were common :D

[@vladvah77]

No need for more than 4 SATA ports in 2020 :-)

[@tobiasm5868]

The level of detail very nice

[@Excalabur50]

I don't know which board or chip they used but they supposedly got 5100mhz ram speeds on an X570 board which is pretty impressive of MSI to achieve!

[@RonI-qz2tz]

Great video Buildzoid. Really like Gamers Nexus. And Actually Hardcore Overclocking

[@Fists91]

Since sata ports are generally disabled by using sata m.2 drives leaving the extra connectors off makes sense at this price point and will probably reduce the number of service tickets for "Why won't my motherboard recognise sata drives"

[@markqqq_]

Could you please explain this to me? Are these configuration options dependant on the chipset capabilities? Like if you choose a certain configuration, not all sata ports will work?

[@Fists91]

@@markqqq_ I'm glad you asked because I was actually wrong, B350 and B450 chipsets do that due to a lack of lanes, x470 could do 6 SATA and 2 M.2 and the X570 can now do 6 Sata and 3 M.2 as found on the MEG Godlike. In all of those the CPU (not the chipset) is actually handling one of the M.2 drives but you only have to worry about that for the cheap Athlon chips which have less lanes.

[@randirlom9508]

@Gamers Nexus This Buildzoid guy is pretty good and would like to see more of his content, maybe let him borrow some hardware for his analysis? I do follow his channel although I am not into XOC (2600X on PBO (using his suggestions to up limits)) but his analysis seems to have had an impact on other Tech Tubers who are now looking at the actual hardware. I'm watching more channels talking about VRM, and I think it is making manufacturers make less crappy hardware. Thank you putting him on the channel, and hopefully others will sub to him as well. And maybe talk him into a way of direct contributions as some of us are not into merch and Patreon takes too deep of a cut...

[@alleyb62]

Could you tell us how you really feel about the extra 8 pin power connector?

[@mrmudcatslim1004]

I bought a Cross Hair for the 2700X. I ran into problems with it. The thing would "lose" the ssd I went with for the boot drive. I went through the Reddits searching for the answer and I suppose I found it. This was a problem repeatedly asked about. I tried the different solutions and it still occasionally fails to boot. You have to go back into the BIOS and reset some of it. I use the easy tuning wizard, due to the fact that I am a major noob when it comes to computers. I built it and loaded up Windows and did some updates, but I by no means an expert. I suppose I will live with it. Its could just be trolls out to troll Or fanboys of some other brand, but the general agreement was that even though AMD did have some glitches with memory, ASUS themselves did not do as good a job as other brands when it came to software. At least on this board, and I always heard that software was their strong suite. I don't know what to think, but it kind of soured me on ASUS for a bit. I want to try the new 3000, but I might steer clear of ASUS and go with a more nooby friendly version. I cannot use allot of what ASUS has to offer in their BIOS settings, and the Crosshair was the first board I ever purchased from them. I think I will keep the board to learn on, but I want something more reliable, even if it is not as fancy.

[@Tallnerdyguy]

The crosshair has some of the most reliable components on any x370/x470 motherboard. If you think ASUS Bios is janky, try an ASrock board. You also purchased the overclocker/professional board for a first time user. I prefer Asus and MSI bios (uefi) over any other manufacturer. They will all have features you won't use or understand (and most won't) I agree that you may have jumped in over your head, but if you learn what the features do, you will be able to use any other motherboard with ease (except ASrock, because their bios is trash)

[@nickpont]

Love these vids!

[@lincolnngo2083]

i like your voice better than the advertising guy

[@joaomarmelo5566]

It has 4 sata ports to give a reason for people to buy the Prestige Creation

[@ajmckey]

I believe that the fact of having only 4 SATA ports on this card is because there are already 3 other NVMe ports that use the total availability that a card can offer.

[@vladvah77]

Yes, the X570 chipset CANNOT deliver 3 NVME M.2 & MORE than it's 4 native SATA3 ports - it's either full 3 NVME M.2 + 4 SATA configuration or it can be only 2 + 6 - 8 SATA afaik, MSI did the right thing this is a modern next-gen motherboard ;-)

[@oldmoney1022]

@@vladvah77 Umm yes it can. See this list. pcpartpicker.com/products/motherboard/#E=3,5&K=6,13&c=138

[@CJ-M43]

Can you do more ASUS boards? Perhaps ROG Crosshair VIII Hero, S-AM4

[@Numrollen2001]

I dont need sata anymore. I even cant imagine people with more then 4 SSDs, Optical i would use a usb external one.

[@futurepastnow]

With three M.2 slots, I guess they just figure people will need fewer SATA ports for drives. 1TB M.2 drives are under $100 now, so... perhaps a smaller but superfast drive for the OS, a pair of cheaper, slightly slower terabyte drives for games, and still 4 SATA ports for the movie drives.

[@Tallnerdyguy]

Only so many pcie lanes

[@futurepastnow]

@@Tallnerdyguy True, but shouldn't be hitting them all at once.

[@Tallnerdyguy]

@@futurepastnow typically a chipset had a designated number of lanes it can use, but doesn't switch between them, even a crosshair 7 hero has 6, but can only use 4 if nvme is used. Why are you still downloading movies? Its not 2003 anymore

[@Hanibul_Lecktor]

MSI ACE second 8pin powers the PCIE slots I do believe from other channels remarks.

[@mariushmedias]

@27:00 The "double life for every 10 degrees Celsius" rule (well, approximation) applies ONLY to electrolytic capacitors. For polymer capacitors, a more accurate formula is L = Lorig x 10 ^ [ (Tm -Ta) / 20 ] where Lorig is original life, Tm is capacitor temperature rating and Ta is the ambient temperature. So for example, a 5k@105c capacitor used at 75c all the time is estimated to function for L = 5000 x 10^ [(105-75)/20] = 5000 x 10^1.5 = 5000 x 31.5 = 157.5k hours. So even a 2k @ 105c polymer capacitor is perfectly adequate for motherboards. Buildzoid it's the second time I hear you saying that for polymer capacitors. You're pointlessly scaring people.

[@Tallnerdyguy]

Thank you. i knew his math was wrong, but i failed to locate the formula

[@metasynaptic9451]

Even with the rough back of the envelope of double for every 10c, that's 24/7 for 2.3 years, which is close to the usable life for IT hardware.

[@olekferster]

Is "MSI MPG X570 GAMING PRO CARBON WIFI" review coming any time soon?

[@vickybowe3975]

Why?

[@Ode-]

12+2 phases with 8 capacitor.. Or is it still 6 phases (+ 2) with simultanous parallel doublers hitting two powerstages and chokes simultaneously per phase?

[@Motifes7man]

I wonder if the reason for the 2nd 8pin is because of voltage drop? a 2nd connector would lower the resistance of the line making the voltage drop under load less? i'm not saying thats why but an Ish-educated guess.

[@catch10110]

the extra 8pin cpu power connector can stabilize the voltage when the CPU ramps up and down in speed. its not totally "useless".

[@Marko-wi1lb]

I dunno, if you're buying this board then you're likely overclocking the CPU on all cores at a fixed speed... so it shouldn't be ramping up and down? If you're not overclocking and the CPU ramps up and down then you're probably not buying this board.

[@nathanforrester5140]

Thank you for the review. I have to build a 3900X system for a client. He is not interested in OCing just reliability. It sounds like any of the MSI, ASUS and Gigabit boards in this price range are going to be solid. I do not need the flagship board just a very solid board.

[@nathanforrester5140]

@no gods no managers I was looking at that one. Unfortunately it does not have 10GB ethernet. My client requires that. He will be working with large files from a nas drive.

[@nathanforrester5140]

I really like that board I might have to look at an addon 10GB pcie board.

[@erensworldofvideogames9257]

can't wait for the 3950x and this motherboard

[@vickybowe3975]

Why?

[@bioforce5]

I'm having trouble finding any breakdowns on the upcoming X570 ITX boards. The best I could find was Optimum Tech's video on the Asrock board. Can we expect anything from Buildzoid on those prior the launch?

[@tarfeef_4268]

Buildzoid did the gigabyte board. 6 + 2 phase. Vcore I believe uses 70SPS from TDA. Pretty legit. No active vrm cooling but should run fine due to how good the TDA parts are. Asus has released info for theirs: 4 phase with 2 of those fancy TDA 70 SPS in each phase, plus 2 more for the SOC. Has an active fan for vrm and another for chipset. Features other than that look good. So basically if 4 phases is okay with you it looks pretty good. Asrock I haven't looked into as much cause io sucks. Not much on the back, and only 1 m.2. No idea how it is outside of that because that invalidated it for my use.

[@sjewkes1]

*me still looking at X570 boards because AM5 isn't fleshed out yet* *gets hit with a 1660 Ti ad spot* "Oh. Oh it's been 4 years."

[@enigmusII]

Any chance of taking a look at the Asrock X570M Pro4? Seeing as it is the only mATX announced at the moment, I am really interested to see if it's any good.

[@FinlayDaG33k]

*sees dual 8-pin connector* "jupp, Buildzoid is going to rant again"

[@alenoire]

Buildzoid could add timestamps in his channel. Really helpful

[@jamesthomson8659]

Buildzoid and time have a complicated relationship. 😃

[@heni63]

@@jamesthomson8659 😂😂😅

[@TheXlen]

Yea that is not going to happen, buildzoid considers time relative

[@B15SDMDESIGNS]

I can't decide between the MSI Meg Ace and the Aorus X570 master. Which one would you suggest is the better board?

[@streaky81]

4 sata ports is the easy one - it's why would you ever need more than 2 or 4 if you're doing something super weird. 3x m.2, see.

[@gustavokaski]

*Sees dual 8pin, skips ahead of rant*

[@gamerforever4837]

Understand you have an odd obsession with everything power delivery, but why do you just overlook the m.2 ports besides a side mention of them? Also overlooking all the pcie slots and other expansions, why do you do that?

[@WailOfDoom]

@buildzoid you mentioned some Post Code Readouts are useless, I tried to google this but found no answer? Which have you found to be useless, I value a good post code and would avoid buying a bad one without knowledge

[@TheXlen]

Hmm we see a lot of boards that support bios flashback, I guess AMD is planning one more generation on am4

[@Doobie3010]

Its such a godsend,you never miss it untill you dont have it in a mobo!

[@TheSaxAppeal]

Of course they are. They'd be dumb not to. It's the most universal socket that's ever existed. With a solid x470 board, you can use a Gen 1, Gen 2, OR Gen 3 Ryzen CPU, with no issues whatsoever. X570 dropped support for 1st gen Ryzen, but no biggie.

[@bbrr374]

Best bz speedrun

[@Bill-flatplanefool]

What if they let you program the oc dial? What if you could go from an under volted profile to your highest all core over clock with a turn of the dial?

[@TechItOutBuilds]

In description: *talking briefly about the best X570* Me: *BRIEFLY????? NANI*

[@aliensarefromspace]

compared to his regular hour or two long videos... yes.. briefly ...

[@TechItOutBuilds]

@@aliensarefromspace I wish I had the IQ to talk that long haha, I'd space out after like 5 minutes! See what I did there.. "space" geddit? No? Okay I'll be leaving now.

[@knightsljx]

yes, this is briefly, for Buildzoid

[@TechItOutBuilds]

@@knightsljx the man is a genius

[@shaunfranks8028]

Great post. Question. If you had max $1200 to spend on a setup (cpu, cooler, motherboard, and graphics card right now) what would it be?

[@Daiyns69]

The reason why they have only 4 sata ports is because they are trying to push the three m.2's

[@vladvah77]

Obviously!

[@ebsn1]

This is supposed to be 12+2+1. Why didnt he talk about the VRM beneath the 8 pin power connector and how that applies?

[@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking]

the choke under the 8pin is an input filter it's not a VRM

[@tarekhassan8816]

i just wonder what the thumb downer was thinking about , how the hell their brain works , this man is so educated and speaking about thing no other mentions or even care , many reviewers care about rgb like stuff

[@VatroCramer]

Who else is watching just to see Buildzoid rant about the useless 8-pin connector :D This kind of has become a running gag!

[@StarsMarsRadio]

"Anghh guys, buildzoid here"

[@ThePretendgineer]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say it doesn't have a secondary SATA controller(SATA 5 & 6) because of the 3rd M.2 slot.

[@vickybowe3975]

Your limb has fallen off already...

[@ThePretendgineer]

@@vickybowe3975what does that even mean

[@vickybowe3975]

@@ThePretendgineer Have you even read your own post? And that makes sense to you, really? LOL!

[@billhyde6617]

Hello. Just curious as to what you think about a build I'm putting together? I'm building it with hopes that it will still be a good gaming PC 5 years from not and not at the end of its technological life. The build is as follows: Cooler Master H500P Mesh White EVGA 750W 80+ Gold semi modular power supply MSI MEG X570 ACE Motherboard Ryzen 9 3900X Samsung 970 Evo 1TB SSD G. Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (16GBx2) Plan on going with the RTX 3080 when it is released You seem to do a VERY thorough job in your reviews and was curious as to your thoughts on it. I know it's overkill, but like I said, I want this to last longer than 5 years if possible and to be able to do some decent video editing. Thank you.

[@MetaDrow]

Waiting for the Asus X570 mobo videos specifically the Crosshair VIII Formula/Hero cause those 2 are the ones I'm aimming for =P

[@chavo8358]

He has done that on his channel: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZrQcohvfLKobbM Subscribe to the mighty Buildzoid

[@jamessimbolon3887]

Buildzoid, do we need to plug in both 8 pins? :)

[@deydraniadiancecht8298]

Why would anyone need more than 4 SATA ports? The average user doesn't need more than that. With the invention of 4 TB HDD, how can that not be enough? Just get two 500 GB SSD, one 4 TB HDD, and one optical drive. That should be all anyone needs. If you need an external drive, that can be plugged into a 3.0 USB port.

[@vladvah77]

Also external BluRay / DVD units and NAS storage can be used with all those USB 3 high-speed ports available!

[@campingdoesntpay5235]

didnt u say that the extra 8 pin takes care of the power for the 3 m.2 slots!?

[@KrystoHartge]

Would it be good for ryzen 9 5900x

[@Beliasa01]

Heck yes.

[@bryceegli4252]

Hey so are 6+2 and 4+4 pins the same? Planning on getting this board and having immense confusion about the connectors?

[@simmonsjoe]

Is that a completely insulated power plane for the DIMM slots? I don't think I've ever seen it done that way before. @Buildzoid How useful is that? EDIT: apparently it's just visual. :( Still wondering if isolated DIMM slots would be a thing.

[@AstralS7orm]

I'd like to see some more focus on voltage regulation accuracy with those VRMs... What's the rub now, 1%?

[@johnbeer4963]

I wonder if they do the extra power connectors as an efficiency thing... it's only a very tiny amount of efficiency but twice the wiring and pins, half the resistance, right?

[@colin8601]

Does this mean you'll cut Asus some slack for doublers now?

[@mistakenotou7681]

Running a gpu with just pci power or few pcie cards? That might need extra pins ? Or redundant power supply

[@icedcoffee8561]

its hilarious seeing a bunch people talking about how cpu overclocking is dying off.. looking at these motherboards the ryzen 3000 series will have to be a beast at overclocking.

[@jamesthomson8659]

But the 2000X chips basically didn't really overclock that well. AMD pretty much got the most out of the chips with XFR and PBO. Although PRO could be considered overclocking

[@techlord5573]

Nice to know i don't need 16 pin for the cpu

[@hi_tech_reptiles]

Isn't the doublers/load line cal thing what derbauer did a vid on with Asus recently with a board and a voltage meter? Basically, the specific doubler/controller they were using allowed a higher spike than with no doubler. Idk if thats what you meant but it may be something to check out.

[@Tallnerdyguy]

Thats called ripple and the disadvantage of using doublers (2x ripple, 1/2 as much power going through stage)

[@cartmann227]

Free Buildzoid!

[@newls1]

hopefully my next future board if it isnt 400$

[@TriWaZe]

newls1 At least. There was another reviewer that commented on another video and someone said 300 euros and she said it was much more than that. And usd has less value than euros so Im assuming its at least 400 bucks. Possibly more.

[@Tallnerdyguy]

If you don't need nvme raid at pcie4 speeds, get x470....

[@Zohar-Modifier]

WHAT MOUSE OR STYLUS IS BUILDZOID USING:)?

[@samro9744]

So I got this exact board, got 6 fans hooked on pwm. Whenever it sleeps and wakes up again, fans don’t spin at all even when cpu is getting hot. So I just set it to DC 100% all the time. Would an aqua computer quadro pwm controller help with this issue? Thanks for all you do!

[@ramikol38]

Almost same problem, my spins full speed after wake up. I delete msi center and loaded default settings im bios and switched the fans to others fab headers. Problem was solved

[@nhozdien5058]

I wonder if Buildzoid could do the ad instead of GN 😅

[@heni63]

😍😂

[@cl4ster17]

I asked that before but Steve's answer was: "That's not how it works."

[@nhozdien5058]

well yeah, unless he does that free of charge.

[@nhozdien5058]

or officially employed by GN

[@cl4ster17]

@@nhozdien5058 He signed a contract to make these videos. So technically he already is employed by GN.

[@ravenshrike]

Buildzoid and Chill.

[@galindojamie]

can I pair a 5950x with this motherboard without any issues?