2023 Yeti SB120 VS Pivot Trail 429 Head-to-head Comparison & Review

[@mtbyumyum]

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[@rcktmn]

Salt Cycles is great. They squeezed me in last year with no notice to fix my bike when I was planning on going to Moab the next day. Highly recommend.

[@nlmatt]

Well Jason, I have now bought 3 Ibis bikes from Chris & had a friend buy a Pivot from Chris. 👍🏼 Another great video. Take care, Bro! 🤘🏼

[@mtbyumyum]

Thank you!!

[@fernandoguerrero2895]

Please also review the trek top fuel

[@Shotgunwillie89]

I just went from a sb4.5 to trail 429. I wanted to get something new with xtr build instead of the x01 kit on my Yeti. I know it’s a different comparison but I agree with the pedaling efficiency of the yeti, and more planted / less poppy playfulness of the 429. For me, the plushness and confidence when bombing rough downhills on the 429 makes it worth the switch for me.

[@mtbyumyum]

👍🤙

[@michaeldevries2482]

Been looking forward to this particular vid as I really like the 120 comparisons. The 120 bikes are perfect for my trails and my style of riding. Thanks again for another excellent episode. Your channel is one of my favorites and I mention it all the time at my part time job at a bike shop.

[@mtbyumyum]

Nice. Thank you!!

[@barbbrazes869]

Love your reviews!! Thanks!! I ride an Ibis Ripley now, just did a demo on the Pivot 429 Trail.

[@mtbyumyum]

Thanks!

[@2WheelKam]

Love the video! Good insight into how each bike rides. Can't go wrong with either one.

[@mtbyumyum]

Yeah, I wish I would’ve said a little bit more how similar the two bikes are. They’re not nearly as different as the Stumpjumper or IBIS ripley.

[@2WheelKam]

@@mtbyumyum I think that came through in the video. It's tough to be perfectly articulate and say exactly whats on your mind every single day! When you were talking about how both descend well and resist bottoming it sounded like they're pretty similar and the differences were more apparent when climbing and popping out of corners with the Yeti feeling a little more efficient and slightly firmer in the shock travel.

[@mtbyumyum]

Bingo. Good! The Ripley is the outlier in a conversation about the yeti, pivot and ibis 120mm bikes... and not in a bad way. The pivot and yeti are just more similar when compared to the ibis.... with the yeti being slightly closer to the ripley in feel and trail manners although the ripley really doesn't feel anything like the pivot where the yeti sort of does. If this hasn't confused you, nothing will. hahaha

[@brandoningersoll5034]

Yeti’s feel like you are on top of the suspension vs “in” the suspension with Ibis, Pivot and even SC….I like being “in” the suspension personally…have tried all the Yeti’s…I get why people love them though…stiff, feel the trail, rocket forward bikes…& well made

[@scoobsm6994]

It made me so happy to hear you refer to them as trail bikes, and not that stupid corporate marketing wank-speak down-country.

[@mtbyumyum]

Down country is fake news...

[@davidtrudell7424]

Getting my trail 429 from Salt cycles delivered tomorrow. Put everything I could on it to make it the ultimate bike. Can’t wait to see how this turns out.

[@mtbyumyum]

Nice! Stoked for you David!!

[@Jballard9130]

Wooooo! Looks freaking fun. Both sick bikes!

[@mtbyumyum]

💯🤘

[@mikeedwards7730]

Love your comparisons videos. You going to try and get a test on that new smuggler? You do the best trail bike reviews on KZbin

[@mtbyumyum]

Thank you for the kind words. Yes, trying to track down a smuggler right now!

[@ChadBroadwell]

Enjoyed the video. Do you plan to do any additional reviews or comparisons with the Exie?

[@mtbyumyum]

Yes. Exie video coming in 2-3 Tuesdays from now!! Also a head to head against the Scalpel se

[@mkrj2576]

Thanks again for another great review. Your reviews are so good and Pivot is such a great company I wouldn't be suprised if they had someone tuned in here to take feedback to Chris. So... despite sounding like a broken record I'm going to say it again.... I think Pivot should marry the Switchblade and 429 and do a 130mm out back and 150 up front. The 150mm up front, IMO gives you a much nice feeling fork in fork in something like a Lyric compared to a Pike or 34 with little weight penalty. Both models fall between XC and enduro so there's a lot of overlap. And to add I think that 429 in silver with its really nice lines is the best looking bike out there. Pivot is so great with customer service and quality of frames to boot. If they had a 130/150 sold as a frame alone it would be my next bike. For my last bike I almost got a Switchblade but could get a frame only option.

[@mtbyumyum]

You might be onto something. Especially with how capable the mach4 SL is. I always thought that bike punched above its weight. We’ll see what happens. In my experience, the trail 429 and the switchblade are so close and so similar with geometry that I could totally see your point in this idea.

[@billw_mtb3220]

Another great comparison! The 429 is fantastic. I would like to try a sb120 sometime tho.

[@mtbyumyum]

Yeah, I think you would like it... I might be hanging onto the sb140 for this season... very good bike!

[@bimmerfan729]

Love the short travel comparison. Good to hear a real world take on the sb120. Few publications were making it out to be too heavy. Would love to hear your take on the Evil Following and how it compares to everything

[@mtbyumyum]

Yeah, it's interesting because the Sb100/115 were never in the conversation with the Following or the Tallboy... those are the two 120mm bikes that really blur the lines of bigger more capable trail bikes like the Pivot Switchblade and the Ibis Ripmo. The new SB120 is much more that speed and ability for sure... weight it there too. That said, the geo is just different enough that anyone willing to go up to the 27-28 pound range should be taking a long look at the Following, Tallboy and Ripmo(with fox 36/fox float x)

[@bimmerfan729]

@@mtbyumyum Real interesting views! How much did the SB120 weigh that you were riding?

[@mtbyumyum]

Just over 27 lbs without pedals. And I threw all the money at it. It would be difficult to get this sub 26.

[@freshiesat9]

Hey Jason, yours is quickly becoming my favorite channel. I appreciate your taste in bikes. I like seeing the comparisons between bikes and hearing your options about them. I can’t wait to see what you have to say about the new Tallboy.

[@mtbyumyum]

Thank you!! Wish I had more time and talent to really give this channel the attention it deserves... looking forward to the Tallboy!!

[@garyharmon5386]

Great review

[@mtbyumyum]

🙏🤙

[@sjc115]

@MTByumyum Another great video, thanks! You mentioned the Ibis Ripley during the comparison, which I appreciate as it has kind of become your 'control' bike to compare everything to. When you said the Ibis was probably your favorite 120mm trail bike it made me think of the Rocky Mountain Element you had awhile back. You seemed to really love that bike and I was wondering, what happened to it (you haven't mentioned it in a while)? How does it compare to the Yeti and the Pivot?

[@mtbyumyum]

Great question. I ended up selling the element because it sort of felt like a short travel ibis Ripmo. The reason why I mentioned the Ripmo was because at the time I had sold the Ripley and picked up an Exie to go along with my Ripmo. In situations where I didn’t need a ton of travel, I would rather be on my Exie instead of the element and in times where I needed a bit more bike I would rather be on the Ripmo instead of the element. It was just bad timing with the other bikes that I already had at the time. Overall, it was a very good bike. Had similar support to the Yeti but maybe a little less control. Really fun geo on the Element too if it’s your only bike. I apologize, not everything in these comments will translate through to exactly what I’m saying. Maybe we should do another live stream😆🤦🏻‍♂️

[@sjc115]

@@mtbyumyum That makes perfect sense. It was a great "one bike", but two more specialized bikes do a better job at their respective jobs.

[@mtbyumyum]

Yeah, basically. It was really just bad timing and the Element would be better paired with a longer slacker bike or be a quiver of it's own....

[@marcid6527]

Sweet video!!

[@mtbyumyum]

Thanks!

[@nathanfisher1512]

Fantastic comparison video! What waist pack and knee pads are you running? Thanks!

[@mtbyumyum]

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[@echobenav8]

Thanks agains for all your work making these videos. Really enjoy watching them and hearing your insights. These are expensive bikes! Wish they would make aluminum options like Ripley AF and Tallboy D&R builds. Have you ridden either?

[@mtbyumyum]

Yeah. Bike prices are crazy… everything is crazy now… can hardly get lunch for less the $20 these days🤦🏻‍♂️ Ripley AF and Giant Trance are still both very good adorable options!!

[@jamiesteiger6140]

Great comparison! Any chance you have the new Smuggler coming? Might be a good comparison to the SJ

[@mtbyumyum]

I've ask Chris at Salt cycles to see if he can get me a demo on one... bike looks long tho.... I'm sure it will be fun just think it will be more similar to the Swithblade, SB140 and Ripmo... I could be wrong. The Sentinel feels much bigger than the 3 bikes I listed here...

[@SkiingInTahoe]

How about SB120 vs SB115 vs Rocky Mountain Element?

[@mtbyumyum]

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[@SkiingInTahoe]

@@mtbyumyum Thanks, I saw that video earlier and that got me thinking how both of those bikes compare to the Rocky Mountain Element. It seems like this latest video on the SB120 you seem to like it a bit more than you did in the SB115 comparison video.

[@mtbyumyum]

The SB115 is one of my very favorite bikes I've ever ridden!! So much fun! I was sad to see the 120 move away from that snappy short bike to more of a proper trail bike... I guess I'm saying almost any bike would have looked less desirable than the sb115 in a head to head video... with exception to the Ripley.

[@sk8kidCass]

Another very informative head-to-head comparison and review on two top-of-the-line MTB brands! I noticed that you use mechanical shifting. Is there a particular reason(s) that you have not entered into the electronic and/or latest T-Type transmission realm, maybe the cost-maintenance factor?

[@rayhoward194]

Thanks for your thoughts/comparisons on the Trail 429. I'm 205 lbs, 5' 10", on a large T429 Enduro and I agree with what you say about it being plush and feeling like a bigger, more capable bike. I'm a hardtail lover, but it's fun to have a different experience on the trail and a bike for trips. Although I enjoy riding the 429, my Pipedream Moxie HT is more efficient, responsive, and more fun for the stuff I ride 90% of the time. My local trails in San Diego, out my front door, are very similar to yours and I just love the direct power transfer and feel. I'm surprised you don't try a HT on your trails. I bet you'd like the Ibis DV9. Based on this video and liking HT's, I think I MIGHT prefer the Yeti, BUT I like the trunion mount shock and looks of the Pivot and I'm okay with it not being my most efficient bike. Fun to have options. Thanks for your channel.

[@mtbyumyum]

Thanks for sharing! Yeah, I’ve ridden hardtails my whole life. My first full suspension bike wasn’t until 2012. In any case, I rode the IBIS Exie all last year and have another one for this season. It gets you a similar feel of a Hardtail and I love that bike!

[@superdukerandy]

Had my 429 Enduro for almost two years now. As I'm 6'0 w/ a 31" inseam it does sound like the reach of my Pivot is a better fit. Between the two in this review it doesn't sound like there's all that much difference to consider the SB120.

[@mtbyumyum]

Right, I guess how I would say it is if you currently own a T429 there isn't really a reason to try out the SB120. Although they are different, it's not drastic.

[@jasonw3287]

A day riding can’t get much better than riding those 3 bikes. I’m on the trail 429 enduro and I ride the rear suspension at the red line which is higher pressure, and stiffer which I love uphill and the 36 is beefy downhill on drops and rock gardens. Not as supple. Very efficient.

[@mtbyumyum]

I think it's high time I get a demo on a t429 enduro

[@RayHowrad]

I think the red line is trail and the blue line is race and the higher/stiffer of the two settings.

[@jasonw3287]

@@RayHowrad yep you’re right I’m to the blue. Hard to misunderstand when you set it up, but senility works :)

[@ПавелЗайдов]

Pivot is my choice, he don't have that infinity switch thing.

[@RealDriver8]

Are you planning on reviewing the Revel Ranger? Seems like it’s the kind of bike you really like

[@mtbyumyum]

I rode it 4 or 5 times like 2 years ago... really liked that bike. Most similar to the Yeti SB115 and Ibis Ripley. Love the CBF sus system!

[@RealDriver8]

Looks like they have done an update and have a new version Ranger just dropping. Thanks for your reviews!

[@mtbyumyum]

As far as I can tell, nothing has changed on the bike other than ud and color

[@ianmangham4570]

Beautiful bikes

[@csobinmtbm945]

By any chance, have you ridden the Canyon Spectral 125? That is the one I’m still curios about….

[@mtbyumyum]

Sadly no.... I would like to try more of the direct to consumer bikes...

[@akaktm]

I’d like to see your take on the Transition Spur. It’s not a new bike but similar travel and rides differently from these bikes from what I’ve experienced. The SB120 is very nice. My only disappointments with it were the weight of the frame and the cost of the frame. I am not too concerned with weight, but almost 7 pounds for a 120 bike seems excessive.

[@mtbyumyum]

Check out my vast library of mountain bike test ride & review videos! Spur: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z564fnl_d5eIfbM

[@gabrielmarias972]

Great H2H, around what weight have this bikes with your set up? For long days did you know if the second watter bottle on the pivot works? Not sure if in descends could crash against rocks... Thanks!!

[@mtbyumyum]

The Sb120 is just over 27 lbs in this set up... and I spent all the money to make it as light weight as possible. The T429 is just under 27 lbs and could be made to be even lighter

[@petedog9581]

The Pivot Trail 429 Enduro package may be the best all-arounder out there. How different would it be from the Switchblade though????

[@mtbyumyum]

My rule of thumb is if you think you need more than the T429 get the Firebird... The geo on the SB and T429 are similar enough I wouldn't bother with it unless them came out with an updates SB... the T429 and Firebird destroyed SB sales imho because the T429 is so capable for what it is and the Firebird climbs really well and still have descent slower speed trail manners.

[@jaybartlett2561]

@@mtbyumyum that’s why I picked up a Firebird because I want to use it for lift riding at deer valley but also regular rides at park city. I’m sure I’d love the 429 for 90% of what I do but wanted more travel for when I need it.

[@mtbyumyum]

Yeah. I took my t429 to deer valley... it was doable but not the tool for the job and def held me back a lot.... firebird is 100% better for people interested in those type of speeds.

[@jaybartlett2561]

@@mtbyumyum I’m 43 so I’ll take all the help I can get 😂

[@jasonw3287]

I demoed both and the Ripley before buying t429 enduro. Switchblade is a much bigger bike uphill quite noticeable and I couldn’t ride it 5 days a week. Took more out of me uphill.

[@LastAphelion]

Do you know any fast trail bikes like the Ripley that supports being mixed wheel size? It's impossible finding smaller mullet trail bikes, the 27.5 is easier on my knees but I still love the 29 rollover

[@diorite81]

Yeti 120 does…it is stated on FAQ in Yeti website

[@mtbyumyum]

Stumpjumper is mullet'able. It it were me, I'd get the Pivot Shadowcat, 140mm Fox 34 29er fork and bam, you've got yourself a fast and capable mx bike!! Call Chris at Salt Cycles and have him set it up for you. 801-943-8502 there are probably the only shop that will let you customize and swap out your fork and other parts without charging you and arm and a leg to do so... I think you'll be suprised just how good the Shadowcat is... I'm very close to doing this same thing for myself... been considering it since last fall. I really liked the few days I spent on that bike!

[@timallen9207]

Hey! Awesome Video! can I come riding with you? I live in Herriman

[@mtbyumyum]

You bet! Hit me up on Strava or Instagram... I really should just host a yumyum ride once a month in CC...

[@csparksnc1]

go for the yeti if you want to service your pivot HW every year

[@BrianDempsey-uu9nu]

I noticed you had the 429 in the lower position, which is 66 head tube and 75 seat tube, and you mentioned the numbers in the higher position, have you tried the bike in both positions? I put mine in higher position and couldn’t believe how much it woke the bike up and made it way more playful

[@VinceAgtarap]

Hey Jason, do you plan to review the BC40 by Allied? Seems like you have a lot of experience in that short to mid travel area of MTB and would love to hear your take on where it fits w/ the SB120, the OG Trail 429, Ripley/Exie, Spur, and Tallboy. I am riding a 2022 Hightower CC now and started doing some longer Bike events (30+ miles), so would like something that I can stay in the saddle longer and more efficient for long rides, but still not ready to totally give up the downs yet either. Thanks for all you do!

[@mtbyumyum]

I've not ridden the bc40 but you can expect it would be very different than the vpp on you Hightower... it's going to be a very different experience is my guess... The Ripley would be my recommendation.

[@cliffsangelsphotography]

I still choose Ibis: threaded BB💪

[@mtbyumyum]

Yep. Tough to beat the Ibis bikes!!

[@trentvlak]

Pivot pressfit shells are good quality.

[@patseelyasi]

Is the Ibis Ripley still your favorite?

[@mtbyumyum]

Yeah, in this category. I've spent a lot of time on the Exie and really like that bike as well but couldn't be my only bike...

[@patrickwallen5065]

What do you think about the Nukeproof Reactor?

[@jeremyrobinette2563]

SB120 vs Spur video!

[@mtbyumyum]

Not even close to comparable… but I wish the sb120 was lighter like the spur

[@jeremyrobinette2563]

@@mtbyumyum i have yet to ride either. Care to elaborate a little? Thanks!

[@mtbyumyum]

What's happening on the Yeti doesn't happen on a the spur... in short, the spur suspension system sort of "stands the bike up" in the corners.... the bike is less willing to easily change direction. The yeti is in my experience a better suspension system. Again... in short! we could maybe talk more about this in a live stream at some point

[@jeremyrobinette2563]

@@mtbyumyum thank you

[@RobertoRodriguez-nj7ym]

I haven’t stopped thinking about this bike when I ride my Ripmo. Lol it feels like cheating. Jason we need a transition smuggler review so I can make a decision.

[@mtbyumyum]

Working on a Smuggler... soon I hope!

[@JakeWoods-u2s]

I know I'm probably in the wrong thread for this but MTB yumyum do you love the Trail 429 more than your SJ Evo? I have a S Works SJ Evo that I got on a killer deal and I love it, but I think it's probably more bike than I need. Wondering if the T429 Enduro would hit the sweet spot for me here on the front range of CO if I can only have one bike. Thanks!

[@mtbyumyum]

They’re just different. Pretty different geo too. The evo is SO FUN!! But I would hate to pedal it 4+ days a week… I could pedal the t429 8 days a week. Just depends what you’re looking for. Also, I’ve never ridden the t429 enduro…

[@JakeWoods-u2s]

@@mtbyumyum roger that - totally makes sense! Thanks!

[@ericbeech2652]

What bike would you choose for riding from 30 to 50 miles a day 5 to 6 days a week. Commuting through town to the trails. I'm in Colorado springs with terrible hills through town.

[@ericbeech2652]

Of all of the bikes that you have tested lately. Not just those two.

[@mtbyumyum]

Tires will make a massive difference in your situation... I'd be riding my Ibis Exie with 2.4 Rekon Race tires front and rear. That's a lot of riding!!

[@jamest2660]

How does the 429 compare to the Revel Ranger?

[@mtbyumyum]

Pretty different... Ranger is more like the Ripley

[@furion..]

Next how about a head to head with a BC40 vs a Revel Rascal

[@jeremyrobinette2563]

Which one would you pick for the Breck Epic?

[@mtbyumyum]

Not familiar with Breck Epic but if it’s epic, I would most likely take the new Pivot Mach 4 sl. It’s excellent!

[@REB4444]

It seems that Yeti basically built a Me Too bike trying to compete with the Trail 429 & other great short-travel trail bikes. I'd still choose the Trail429 because you don't have to change the way you ride like you do with Yetis. Supposedly the SB120 is more neutral compared to their other bikes but it's hard to deviate from your DNA too much. For the money, the fit & finish of Pivot is better than Yetis, up there with Santa Cruz. Of all the short-travel trail bikes, the Trail429 is the closest to the plushness/capability of the Tallboy downhill but a faster climber and very maneuverable. If I wanted more speed uphill and am willing to sacrifice that little bit of capability downhill, I'd skip this Yeti and go for the BC40 for that kind of money. It's a lot lighter & more maneuverable.

[@mtbyumyum]

Yeah, I agree with you. In as much as I really like the SB120 (everyone's making good bikes these days) I would have a really hard time personally skipping out on the T429 or Ibis Ripley with very similar geo. If down hill is more your thing the Tallboy always has slightly more progressive geo then the others listed and is a highly capable and fun bike to ride... The Pivot Trail 429 really is the goldilocks of the short travel trail bikes!!

[@urbanaacademy848]

Firebird vs sb160

[@mtbyumyum]

Fun!!

[@Jesse_James_]

Hello! compared to yeti sb 130? what would be better more versatile? sb 130 is already more enduro? or is it as efficient as pivot 429?

[@mtbyumyum]

I would say the sb120 and sb130 both feel more efficient than the T429. But the sb130 is a very different bike from the T429

[@juanhidalgo7043]

Well the new kid has been erased now! Omg, new pinarello XC coming! Finally a super class bike. Can not wait….

[@jimheckman8323]

Thank you for the great video. I'd value your input on my first world conundrum. I have an SB100 and love love love it! I also have the Trail 429 which I like but am not 100% in love with like the SB100. I have an opportunity to pick up an SB120 frame and thought of swapping everything off the 429. My concern is expecting the SB120 to be just like the SB100; fun and poppy. The 429 is great but in a word, I consider it "unassuming". Do you think it would be worth the aggravation of swapping everything or would the SB120 and 429 be similar enough that it's a waste of time? I know it could come down to preference but any insights are appreciated.

[@mtbyumyum]

Yeah, the SB120 won't give you what you're looking for... I strongly encourage you to look at (and buy) the Ibis Ripley! It will give you everything you love about your SB100 but in a more "trail" worth package... what the sb100 lacks the Ripely has in spades and what you adore about the sb100 the Ripley does even better! I promise you won't be disappointed. Call Chris at Salt Cycles and get hooked up with the current running YUMYUM deal!! 801-943-8502

[@jimheckman8323]

@@mtbyumyum your reply was exactly what I was looking for. Thank you so much for the advice and quick reply!

[@mtbyumyum]

I know it can be difficult just looking up the geo numbers on different bikes online.... the t429, sb120 and ripley all looks so similar on paper but they're really very different... if you like the sb100... you'll love the ripley! I absolutely loved my sb100 and the ripley was such and easy natural progressing from that bike!

[@MrTalentwasted]

$4,300 for a Yeti frame has to be the highest frame price on planet Earth. As a certified bike snob, that is even too much for me. Pivot stopped selling frames and went to 157mm hubs which for someone who likes to move wheels around between bikes is a non-starter. Back to IBIS I go for reasonable prices and a 148 hub!!!

[@mtbyumyum]

Yeah, you're not wrong... Ibis still has reasonable pricing and excellent bikes!

[@marksandoval5361]

I keep thinking that most of these ~120mm rear travel bikes would better with 140mm fork and more progressive geometry. If your already riding a 130mm Fox 34 fork, going for 140mm Fox 34 doesn't seem unreasonable. When it comes to geo, I find a 77* STA and 65* HTA about ideal for all around trail riding.

[@mtbyumyum]

You're not wrong. I agree to a certain extent... for the non competitive rider looking to do a handful of cx or marathon type races these bikes are still very good options.

[@frienduro24]

But adding a larger fork with shorten the reach, slack the STA and HTA. Geometry trumps suspension design because all these brands have killer stuff.

[@marksandoval5361]

@@frienduro24 I'm not talking about adding a longer fork to a bike that isn't designed for it. I taking about the bike being specifically design with a 140mm fork, a 77* STA, and 65* HTA. In addition, no bikes geometry is going to be adversely affected by installing a fork that is 10mm shorter or longer than the stock fork. 10mm just isn't that much change. People do this all the time and many report that it improves the bike.

[@petedog9581]

@@frienduro24 Adjust your stack height and saddle. Maybe get some lower rise bars. I went from a 140 mm Fox 34 to a RS Pike 150 on my Stumpjumper. The bike feels better than ever.

[@marksandoval5361]

@@petedog9581 I always felt that the Stumpy would be a better bike with a 150mm Pike or Fox 36.

[@diorite81]

This video put me in awkward position. Thought Pivot was far better than Yeti….yeti doesn’t have that annoying superboost, but at least here in Europe far more expensive than Pivot. There is only frame option though, so I can re-use couple of good set of wheels…tough choice

[@frienduro24]

I don’t know, these new Yetis…the top tier SB 120 weighs 27lbs at $10,000.

[@mtbyumyum]

I know. Frustrating... The one I have is over 27 lbs and I've thrown all the money at it..

[@ianmangham4570]

I'd take the Pivot 😮

[@alexsinbb]

One thing to note: Trail 429 shock tune is medium and Ripley is light. I think that’s why the Ripley feels more playful.

[@mtbyumyum]

Good point.... I've always thought that's why I liked the Ripley so much

[@TheJeof1000]

Yeti looks heavy.

[@mtbyumyum]

I threw all the money at this one and got it almost down to 27 lbs without pedals... sort of porky

[@jayswavely6371]

Great review.