MTG - An Old Man RANTS that BLUE gets no support in Magic: The Gathering!

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Tolarian Community College

Tolarian Community College

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@TheManaSource
@TheManaSource 9 жыл бұрын
I agree with everything said here. Counterspell reprint or #RIOT
@metalboybass
@metalboybass 9 жыл бұрын
#countersell #RIOT lets get this done haha
@kens4693
@kens4693 9 жыл бұрын
MTG should come out with a block dedicated to a blue magic mutiny
@mrjanemba
@mrjanemba 9 жыл бұрын
TheManaSource only if I can get a reprint of Gaea's Revenge.
@jabbernaut52733
@jabbernaut52733 9 жыл бұрын
I especially agree with the part where he mentioned that mono-red is always a thing in every standard rotation, but blue is not. The only thing keeping blue's head above water (pun intended) is devotion, and even then it doesn't see many tier 1 wins. So what happens when Theros rotates? Meanwhile mono green and mono black devotion see a lot of tier 1 play. Mono red is competitive while still cheap for new players. Mono blue is neither. Notice the problem here?
@ShineAqua
@ShineAqua 9 жыл бұрын
The argument against this is that we have Pact... And though the counter argument is blatantly obvious it'd be a of time. Just let them have this one, and rally against the banning of Dig.
@jackcramps6458
@jackcramps6458 9 жыл бұрын
I met this gentlemen at my work and i just had to tell him how much i love these skits.
@TolarianCommunityCollege
@TolarianCommunityCollege 9 жыл бұрын
Michael Jackson You made his day. Probably his year. He called me to excitedly tell me about it.
@jackcramps6458
@jackcramps6458 9 жыл бұрын
He made my day. I went home and gushed about my encounter.
@gunrugger
@gunrugger 9 жыл бұрын
+Jack Cramps I'm super jealous.
@WhatsTheDifferenceTV
@WhatsTheDifferenceTV 9 жыл бұрын
Your father is super well spoken and could easily be an actor
@connorallen8703
@connorallen8703 6 жыл бұрын
I think his dad was an actor, definitely wrote scripts back in the day. Literally just watched the father/son interview video.
@HeroesandLegendsMTG1
@HeroesandLegendsMTG1 9 жыл бұрын
In my day we couldn't Cast anything without a counterspell war and we liked it:)
@TolarianCommunityCollege
@TolarianCommunityCollege 9 жыл бұрын
Heroes and Legends Damn right.
@Jeffmetal42
@Jeffmetal42 9 жыл бұрын
I like this comment. U win!!
@iNinjaed
@iNinjaed 9 жыл бұрын
and so the game is decided on who drew the most counterspells?
@peterwillems2422
@peterwillems2422 9 жыл бұрын
iNinjaed No, who used their counterspells the most effectively.
@XDamainI
@XDamainI 9 жыл бұрын
Peter Willems agreed. control is not about stopping the game, but letting the right things go through.
@CrimsonFox36
@CrimsonFox36 9 жыл бұрын
"It's just another $1, blue, mythic jank... or in other words, a blue mythic." Ooh... that hurts
@TheCorruptPeanut
@TheCorruptPeanut 9 жыл бұрын
What a fun guy, great dad! Even though he doesn't understand the game he still has fun with it.
@beamer1220
@beamer1220 9 жыл бұрын
How do you know he's a dad?
@pugdug808
@pugdug808 9 жыл бұрын
beamer1220 he is the professor's dad in the bloopers you can hear him be like "great job dad"
@beamer1220
@beamer1220 9 жыл бұрын
***** ah cool
@gotmilshtein
@gotmilshtein 9 жыл бұрын
I was expecting this to be a joke rant like the banding one but you make an excellent argument. In fact all your arguments are excellent and well rounded. As someone who enjoys writing papers I often watch your videos (even the ones I'm not interested) just to listen to you argue. I would suggest making a how to argue video except the topic is to broad and people can just learn by watching your videos. Congrats on 50k you deserve a million.
@peterwillems2422
@peterwillems2422 9 жыл бұрын
You don't argue, you debate. And you don't complain, you explain about a problem. Both of the latter options gets more accomplished.
@Ecrilon
@Ecrilon 9 жыл бұрын
"I want to answer everything by turn 2. I want to be able to counter anything you can ever play by turn 2, leave all my mana up every turn, draw cards when you miss a turn of threats to draw more counterspells, and win every game with a deck that never lets you cast a single spell. I think this type of playstyle, the type developed in the 90s, is a really fun way to play Magic."
@jameslucrative2054
@jameslucrative2054 4 жыл бұрын
I'd rather cast cheaper temporarily removed spells like boomerang sounding like Bakugo "you wanna beat me? You gotta work HARDER"
@dandunning7731
@dandunning7731 8 жыл бұрын
I love this man! He needs to be featured far more often as a guest lecturer for the college! Also, something told me that the Star Trek rant came entirely from the Professor!
@hschuler7892
@hschuler7892 9 жыл бұрын
He asked what a good blue creature is... I say STORM CROW!
@toastingPOPSICLE
@toastingPOPSICLE 9 жыл бұрын
Aetherling!!
@MasoKittyn
@MasoKittyn 9 жыл бұрын
delver, TNN, Vendilion Clique, snapcaster, Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur, and Psychatog (kinda blue)
@warrior7495
@warrior7495 9 жыл бұрын
snapcaster mage was generally quite good
@DiamondLogiX
@DiamondLogiX 9 жыл бұрын
warrior7495 It's not played for being a creature though, it's played solely for its ability.
@MasoKittyn
@MasoKittyn 9 жыл бұрын
DiamondLogiX almost anyone you ask will agree that it is good, and it is a creature, ergo a good creature that is blue
@StefanWB
@StefanWB 9 жыл бұрын
I know that this is supposed to be ironic, but I do agree with the sentiment regarding mono Red. No other colour by itself is as consistently relevant and powerful in all levels of meta-games than mono Red, and often it's just as miserable to play against as Blue.
@dewidubbs6715
@dewidubbs6715 9 жыл бұрын
The best blue deck in my local meta is mono blue tron. A DECK BASED AROUND COLOURLESS MANA!! I just want to counter key pieces, not take every players turns with a mindslaver combo.
@eila2088
@eila2088 9 жыл бұрын
Really? I want to take all the turns and win on turn 0
@jamesbyrne4837
@jamesbyrne4837 7 жыл бұрын
dewi dubbs up
@lemonflavouredtnt6969
@lemonflavouredtnt6969 Жыл бұрын
Had to revisit this. Miss this series, the professors dad is so funny, excellent comedic timing. It’s even more impressive considering he doesn’t understand the game.
@nonya_bidness
@nonya_bidness 9 жыл бұрын
First off. Blue is without a doubt the most powerful color in legacy. And remains an important color in modern. Treasure cruise was insanely overpowered. It pushed delver to become 20% of the modern format. Right next to pod with an equal share. Cruise was so good it made that jank pile of 12-16 1 or 2 drops and a bunch of bad cantrips into a deck that could compete with pod. And wheres delver now? Practically dead. You CAN counter combos on turn 2. Spell pierce, dispell, mana leak, negate, remand, logic knot, even fringe counters like rune snag. Those are all good cards with varying degrees of play in multiple formats. The absence of a mono blue deck is NOT the absence of a powerful blue deck. If you say modern junk is a GBW deck your wrong. It's a variation of GB midrange that splashes white. Scapeshift and twin are blue combo/control decks that splash for combo pieces and removal. Miracles is an EXTREMELY powerful blue based control deck in legacy. Just because you cant sleeve up at least 16 islands for your mana base doesnt mean it isnt a "true" blue deck. Dont forget either, that burn is rarely mono red in modern. And thats BURN. If burn isnt mono red then of course control isn't mono blue! Even the fringe deck 'skred red' which relies in many ways on a large number of basic mountains often splashes for other colors. The problem isnt that blue is weak, but that fetchlands are insane. Blue doesnt have good creatures. That surprises you? Have you forgotten the color pie? Blue has (with some exceptions) always had the worst creatures. Since the games inception. And in any case they get things (with white) like geist of Saint traft and celestial collonade. Not to mention snapcaster. And to ACTUALLY defend mental misstep. The thing was a disaster. Because almost every deck in legacy and modern ran so many 1 drops, and misstep itself was a 1 drop. Turn 1 devolved into cast a 1-drop and then both players discard all their missteps and take that much damage x2. Maybe the 1 drop was counteted, maybe it wasnt. It was opressive and didnt function properly as a blue spell or a counter. The only ban mentioned that wasnt well founded was dig through time. But in their defense cruise was truly insane and scared the shit outta em. Dig still outta been allowed 2 months to see if it was safe.
@bradybern6458
@bradybern6458 8 жыл бұрын
Professor, I love these opinion pieces. And it's comforting to know that somebody actually shares my opinions on both blue and the new Star Trek movies. your the best.
@Mint4589
@Mint4589 8 жыл бұрын
Brady Bern agreed
@troymcalister5000
@troymcalister5000 8 жыл бұрын
At least they gave us Ancestral Visions in Modern. They do care :D.
@NothingYouHaventReadBefore
@NothingYouHaventReadBefore 8 жыл бұрын
Troy McAlister WotC doesn't care about modern.
@Lost1nTheFog
@Lost1nTheFog 8 жыл бұрын
Ancestral visions is bad, just get remanded then you are stuck waiting for another 3 turns
@mert_finance
@mert_finance 9 жыл бұрын
CONGRATS!!! 50,000 SUBS!!!!!! you deserve it
@TolarianCommunityCollege
@TolarianCommunityCollege 9 жыл бұрын
Rocky101 Cheers!
@mrjanemba
@mrjanemba 9 жыл бұрын
Tolarian Community College Rocky101 not only that, but the Professor is about to hit 6 million views soon, too!
@bryanbonar
@bryanbonar 8 жыл бұрын
Your dad's acting in these is superb - and quite hilarious!
@lila2772
@lila2772 9 жыл бұрын
Well it is true that a 2 mana blue true counterspell would probably break modern. Remand is very often used and while it is a true counter, it returns it to its owners hand. A simple hardcounter(for 2) would be too much i guess.
@porndude15951
@porndude15951 9 жыл бұрын
remand is used for it's card draw
@zoinkadoinka
@zoinkadoinka 9 жыл бұрын
Or maybe a hard counter with a slight downside to it. For example a sign-in-blood styled, 2U mana, hard counterspell.
@lila2772
@lila2772 9 жыл бұрын
porndude15951 Its not like you would/could circle remand. Sure, the card draw is really nice, but being able to counter spells for 2 is pretty nice. I guess its both.
@peterwillems2422
@peterwillems2422 9 жыл бұрын
If it wasn't for the card draw, Delay would be a better option than remand...Counter what threat they want and not worry about it for 3 turns...
@zoinkadoinka
@zoinkadoinka 9 жыл бұрын
There is always Deprive, 2U mana, hard counter, only downside is that you have to return a land to your hand.
@foreverimaspartan9982
@foreverimaspartan9982 9 жыл бұрын
Right now WOTC is more concerned with creatures being cast not so much instant and sorcery spells. This can be seen in control decks in Standard right now. One of the most anticipated control cards in Theros Block was, "what is the new four mana wrath going to look like," the format never got that card, so the same question was asked in the KTK/FRF "where is the four mana wrath effect". This is also seen in the recent banning of the card Birthing Pod WOTC stated, "Each year, new powerful options are printed... playing Pod suppresses decks, especially other creature decks", DCI banned list update direct quote. Essentially WOTC is saying they want to print cool powerful creature cards, but are too afraid a card like Birthing Pod will abuse these cards. I would expect to see more powerful creatures in the next couple of sets and less powerful instant and sorcery speed cards while the powerful instant and sorcery spells to be printed in supplement products, for example MM2015 and Duel Decks. MaRo said mill is the main mechanic for blue, if you listen to this podcast he says exactly this media.wizards.com/2014/podcasts/magic/drivetowork185_blueblack.mp3
@ZeriocTheTank
@ZeriocTheTank 9 жыл бұрын
I'm crying right now!! Finally someone is speaking the truth!
@filetminion1907
@filetminion1907 9 жыл бұрын
I really love this vids ! Unfortunatly, my old man passed away 10 years ago. The outtakes great ! Cheers and greetings from Vienna.
@Pyro_Chick
@Pyro_Chick 9 жыл бұрын
I actually like blue :) One of my favorite decks was a blue/red. Roommate called it my "troll deck" I never won with it, but I enjoyed myself
@SanguineSaint21
@SanguineSaint21 9 жыл бұрын
Blue is one of my favorite colors, and I completely agree. Btw, I love these old man videos. Tell your dad he's awesome.
@invisiblehand13
@invisiblehand13 7 жыл бұрын
This video is so epic! This old dude is so likeable and smart! Best of all he totally NAILS every point he makes! I am totally marathon-watching this series IMMEDIATELY. I'm so glad this old dude is part of TCC.
@angelojohnson9441
@angelojohnson9441 6 жыл бұрын
Good Mono blue creatures I pulled off the top of my head by their CMC. 1:Delver of Secrets, Triton Shorestalker and Flying Man/(Faerie Miscreant) 2:Fog Bank 3:Guard Gomazoa 4:Elite Arcanist 5:(nothing immediately comes to mind, I'm not looking any of these up) 6:Magosi Sphinx 7:Tromokrasis 10: Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur 11: Polar Kraken. Yes, Polar Kraken. I stand by this card being one of the blue beaters that stands the test of time, even when brought in early with things like Show and Tell. The fact that a card that costs 11, and has cumulative upkeep of sac a land still stands so high in my eyes I feel is not an issue on my behalf, but that of the power level of blue creatures, which reinforces this video's point (or at the very least pulls a little truth from the satire).
@ProtagonistOfficial
@ProtagonistOfficial 9 жыл бұрын
3:20 monoblue devotion?
@TolarianCommunityCollege
@TolarianCommunityCollege 9 жыл бұрын
DerpTroll That's one. Is there a second?
@ProtagonistOfficial
@ProtagonistOfficial 9 жыл бұрын
Tolarian Community College Mono Blue Tron.
@zogofstuff
@zogofstuff 9 жыл бұрын
DerpTroll But not in standard.
@soulsilver2012
@soulsilver2012 9 жыл бұрын
Tolarian Community College Merfolk?
@ProtagonistOfficial
@ProtagonistOfficial 9 жыл бұрын
Zog Chee-Garza Was that the question? Also monoblue devotion might be a thing again with the dragons of tarkir spoilers.
@SleepyheadGamer
@SleepyheadGamer 9 жыл бұрын
As a Timmy who generally plays Gruul(Red/Green) I will tell every blue player that they can suck it! But as a person who has played magic for awhile I wouldn't mind a really good blue deck or more support for the color.....just as long as Gruul can CRUSE THEM! and EAT! afterwards
@Vintagedad
@Vintagedad 7 жыл бұрын
seriously your dad made your channel into another level. Your dad makes magic so much fun. Your dad is great, I think he needs to start his own channel. My friend doesn't like youtube or Magic rants but when he saw your dad's rant he was entertained enough to want to subscribe. Dude you need to keep him in the rotation
@PandaJohn71
@PandaJohn71 9 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy these videos. Your father's acting chops are improving with each video it seems. They seem more natural with each one. I wish him many good and healthy years to come.
@Siffy5654
@Siffy5654 9 жыл бұрын
a good mono-blue early game card? ehm delver??
@richardeastwood160
@richardeastwood160 9 жыл бұрын
Master of waves as well
@Siffy5654
@Siffy5654 9 жыл бұрын
Richard Eastwood master of waves is midrange he´s at 4 mana
@Asmodeus555
@Asmodeus555 9 жыл бұрын
And...?? Can you name two more? One? Any 1 or 2 drop blue creature? And don't say Snapcaster because no-one casts that turn 2 if they can avoid it so they can use the flashback which is really the point of the card.
@Siffy5654
@Siffy5654 9 жыл бұрын
cloudfin raptor, thrummingbird, etherium sculptor, galerider sliver, hedron crab, narcomoeba non-creature: aqueous form, dispel, condescend, counterspell, force spike, time walk, unsummon, mana leak, mental misstep, ordeal of thassa, remand, stubborn denial, counterspell
@richardeastwood160
@richardeastwood160 9 жыл бұрын
Vendilion clique and force of will. Also true name nemesis and erayo as well
@jimmerfaust5044
@jimmerfaust5044 9 жыл бұрын
I dont play mono blue but I do agree with the argument. And the last 40 seconds is by far my favorite part of the video, its great how your father supports you!
@MultiAsdag
@MultiAsdag 3 жыл бұрын
Re-watching these in 2021 is hilarious. The old man is spot on too about most things! We all know it's probably Prof's opinions but the man's delivery is magic.
@norcalzx3
@norcalzx3 9 жыл бұрын
These need to come out more often, I absolutely love seeing the old man rant.
@sasoftball5791
@sasoftball5791 9 жыл бұрын
Stellar performance!!! I look forward to these videos every week!
@WaypointComics
@WaypointComics 9 жыл бұрын
If you can continue to enjoy time with your 'old man' who, while not really understanding it all, still takes an interest in something you love - that's magic :) Thanks for the real lesson here Professor.
@eagleironic5815
@eagleironic5815 9 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, I always enjoy watching Morton going on rants. He is so good at convincing us that he knows something about Magic. Also Congratulations on the 50k subs Professor.
@XDamainI
@XDamainI 9 жыл бұрын
Please correct me if I am wrong but...from what I understand blue is supposed to be tied with the aether? which means it is supposed relate to almost every aspect of magic when it comes to summon creatures and spells. having said that you would think it would only make sense that magic would support blue the most and make it the strongest color and not the weakest.
@peterwillems2422
@peterwillems2422 9 жыл бұрын
Most new players don't understand the word "NO" or have permission denied, so WotC tries to keep them happy and buying packs...
@XDamainI
@XDamainI 9 жыл бұрын
yeah true, the game would be a lot more complicated
@butterflyfx57
@butterflyfx57 8 жыл бұрын
Great early game blue cards: Delver, Ponder, Spell Pierce, Spell Snare, Preordain, Invisible Stalker, Remand, Mana Leak, Ancestral Visions. The list goes on and on... Also, I realize this is after the making of this video, but Jace, Vryn's Prodigy is some support for blue.
@mbalazs3544
@mbalazs3544 7 жыл бұрын
4:24 Darksteel colossus :D it comes for 3 (1 blue 2 colors and "thinker is written on this card") after it Thieving Magpie Keiga, the Tide Star , Ninja of deep hours.(fav combo with ravenous rats Shadows) Augury Adept
@minecraftrealms7207
@minecraftrealms7207 8 жыл бұрын
while yes i realize they're no "counterspell" alot of people seem to ignore "cancel" which is the same thing for 1 generic more and if your blue deck has lots of artifact synergy in it stoic rebuttle will be just as good due to metal craft
@spazzitronmcgee6254
@spazzitronmcgee6254 9 жыл бұрын
This isn't a rant! This is a logical, well thought-out, organized, and completely valid complaint!
@mbalazs3544
@mbalazs3544 7 жыл бұрын
3:05 The point of the color is it can be a grate suor for an multicolor deck, like red blue, the down side is it wont give more as creative deck than playing without blue the same color. As solo color blue can go for flyers, extra turns, incredible combos and in general supporting creation. Not than merfolks are not a thing. 3:21 my counter deck next after it merfolk is powerful but its bit too fishy for my taste.
@Patrick-ValBlanc
@Patrick-ValBlanc 9 жыл бұрын
Dear me, so many people getting worked up over a parody/comedy video... This series is a ton of fun Prof. Makes light of good we as magic players are at complaining about everything and anything. Plus, your Dad's acting is getting better every time. Loving it. Extra brownies points from a fellow Trekkie at that. Thanks for the entertainment :)
@nikatanyx5241
@nikatanyx5241 8 жыл бұрын
There is a two drop blue srticly all spell counterspell in modern. Its called stoic rebuttal. Taking Extra Turns is COMPLETELY OVERPOWERED that r&d has a right to be afriad of them. And a super playable mono blue creature is fog bank. 0/2 defender and you it prevents all combat damage dealt to it.
@plincoman
@plincoman 8 жыл бұрын
+Nikata Nyx +1 for fog bank, its one of my favorites in my Island/ Swamp deck.
@NateTmi
@NateTmi 9 жыл бұрын
Best way to win with only blue is work in urza lands and artifacts. Easy to take more turns if you have 2 of each urza land but my pack is about half blue and half artifact/colorless
@Teifling
@Teifling 9 жыл бұрын
Man, I agree entirely. Now, I'm not a control player. Big creatures, burn and ramp are my bread and butter... and cinnamon? However I have always felt that Mono Blue was exceedingly lacking in the recent years. I would love to face a good Permission deck, but they don't exist outside of Legacy and Vintage anymore.
@testthewest123
@testthewest123 9 жыл бұрын
Ah, great series. (Just some flaws in the content: When was monoblue playable: Well, quite often. Does it have good creatures: Well mostly not, but the Snapcasters and Delvers accumulate in non rotating formats.) Otherwise he is absolutly correct: If we must endure turn 3 combos in modern, we should also be able to handle a counterspell.
@matthewgragg2152
@matthewgragg2152 4 жыл бұрын
He does have a good point about a good blue creature for early game. Other colors have good/decent flying creatures for 3 or less mana, but for blue a flying creature with the same power and toughness seems to always cost more mana for some reason, even with no extra abilities.
@0Whitelottus0
@0Whitelottus0 9 жыл бұрын
I simply LOVE this videos I feel so identified and even when I know he doesn't know too much about the game I can't help but believe that he is a player of the golden era...
@Sheriff_K
@Sheriff_K 9 жыл бұрын
I wholeheartedly believe that Jace, the Mind Sculptor should be unbanned in Modern. It is a PERFECTLY balanced Card for the Modern Format, yet people are afraid of how good it was in ZEN Standard, and how good it is in Eternal Formats, but those AREN'T the same as Modern. Also, Bloodbraid Elf, she was banned mostly because of her partner in crime, Deathrite Shaman, without him, she isn't as overpowered and should potentially come off the list as well. And honestly, Counterspell could be reprinted, the double Blue Cost would prevent its splash-ability and use/consistency in 3-Colour Decks, so it'd open up the Meta for some Mono-Blue or Ux Decks.. But then we'd see a lot more Filter Lands in Blue Decks potentially, but I don't see why that's a bad thing. :P I can picture Counterspell being reprinted in Zendikar, maybe even Origins.. Jace tMS and Counterspell would open up a Mono-Blue Deck that ISN'T Tempo or Tron -based in Modern, and bring different kinds of Control Decks into the Format. Worst case, they just ban Counterspell if it proves too powerful. (Jace wouldn't though.)
@Willsr14
@Willsr14 9 жыл бұрын
Everyone says blue is the most boring colour, I don't get it. When red can turn 3 kill you and then you sit out of the round for the next 40 minutes, how is blue boring? at least you're actually playing even if you do get locked out late game against control, at least you actually GOT TO PLAY A GAME.
@Richmo_
@Richmo_ 9 жыл бұрын
So many one and two mana removal spells are everywhere in every color but blue. We've got Path, Bolt, Dismember etc. They're everywhere. And think about how powerful all of those cards are. I vote we have a blue counterspell that takes inspiration from one of the most powerful removal spells ever - Abrupt Decay. UU/1U/BU (whatever) - Instant: Counter target spell with converted mana cost 3 or less. It would become a modern staple over night, it's not overpowered, and it's just the kind of thing blue needs in Modern. Come at me Wizards.
@siciliandefense21
@siciliandefense21 9 жыл бұрын
+Richmond Boswell There is one right now, Horribly Arwy. It's 1U and counters target spell with converted mana cost 4 or less, and exiles the spell.
@Richmo_
@Richmo_ 9 жыл бұрын
That is a very good card. I was hoping more for a catch-all counterspell though. :/ Blue doesn't have much support in modern.
@incendium8348
@incendium8348 8 жыл бұрын
+Richmond Boswell Void Shatter 1UU Counter target spell, and if it is countered in this way, it is exiled instead.
@Toleezu6
@Toleezu6 9 жыл бұрын
I have too many thoughts on Blue to post a full comment. Short Version: I don't need better Creatures, but I do need better Control Magic. Binding Grasp and Corrupted Conscience were perfect (Shackles is a bit too good)!
@shanjudo4510
@shanjudo4510 8 жыл бұрын
prof please thank your old man for this, he is such a great sport!!
@TheSuperchris1000
@TheSuperchris1000 9 жыл бұрын
Sorry im super new new to mgt and card games in general and i was wondering what do you mean by buying singles do you mean a singular card or a singular color deck PLEASE HELP! thank you
@jameshumphrey2015
@jameshumphrey2015 9 жыл бұрын
Just want to say I enjoy all of your videos, keep it up!
@SadwichPunch2100
@SadwichPunch2100 6 жыл бұрын
While I don't think reprinting Counterspell would break the meta. Making Mono Blue powerful enough in Standard would. There would be two ways to beat it, by outproducing, it and by splashing Blue yourself to have a Counter battle. Most people would be forced to splash blue because outproducing it isn't reliable enough to beat it consistently. It's meta-breaking when they make it too powerful. Blue might not be the one of the best Mono-Colors, but it's one of, if not the, best colors to splash/pair with for a 2 colored deck.
@nelsonchandra6193
@nelsonchandra6193 8 жыл бұрын
The problem is that counter spell counters.... everything. A well built blue deck can have at least a fighting chance against any deck without blue hate... unless your counter spells don't fire off early so well. Ah, now blue has a defined weakness: Early board presence. In order to fight off the early game, you hold on to some alternative counter spells, as well as some defensive or conditionally strong 1 and 2 drops. Blue has a defined weakness to fast decks, just like red has trouble getting past midrange. Green hates blue. Turn three is when the cool shit happens, but everything gets countered. Rather than a 2 mana auto counter, a plethora of CONDITIONAL counter spells at least makes it so you have to think about what KINDS of cards you are countering, or what mana curve you are countering against instead of just : Good, I put in counterspell. That handles 99% of cards in magic that could be dropped turn 2.
@χαριελ
@χαριελ 8 жыл бұрын
Is it really that hard to cast two one drops? Not really. Mono blue has literally nothing to make up for its loss. What can mono blue do to compete with any playable mono deck outside of EDH or pauper? Pretty much nothing, and even if it could make the right adjustments it would probably just get wrecked by the next color. Mono blue doesn't even have much of a chance in a more lenient low drop format like tiny leaders.
@nelsonchandra6193
@nelsonchandra6193 8 жыл бұрын
Isn't that what vapor snag Delver of secrets and fog bank are for? You could even play Nivmagus Elemental and have the strongest creature on the board turn 2 at instant speed at the end of the declare blockers step.
@χαριελ
@χαριελ 8 жыл бұрын
+Nelson Chandra spending mana and spells to pump a creature is not that great for mono blue, but delver can win games. Nivmagus Elemental is technically red and delver tends to run red except for in pauper. None of those cards keep you from falling behind playable mono decks.
@nelsonchandra6193
@nelsonchandra6193 8 жыл бұрын
Is the fact that a card COULD be cast with another mana color against the rules of the deck being mono color? Is there mono a format with such restrictions? The power of nivmagus is not that it WILL be pumped, but that it COULD be pumped. If a problem could be solved with either a bounce or a power spike, why not the spike? The counters are permanent until removed. Nivmagus does not DEMAND its use, but rather offers it. Having just one on the board gives a flexibility to approach your problems the traditional blue way or to muscle through by throwing out a bounce spell and unexpectedly flashbacking your think twice.
@χαριελ
@χαριελ 8 жыл бұрын
+Nelson Chandra I just said it was red, and it is not a great idea to ditch a spell and tap to pump the elemental for mono blue, especially when you are getting the biggest creature on t2 like you said. Mono blue is not very competitive; this is the point I share with this video. I'm not sure you disagree; I think you are just arguing for the sake of arguing.
@windydays201
@windydays201 9 жыл бұрын
SCREW BLUE AND ALL THE COUNTERS -Green Mage 2015
@comicnerd1000
@comicnerd1000 9 жыл бұрын
I agree -black/ white extort mage
@edeniguesspog
@edeniguesspog 9 жыл бұрын
+comicnerd1000 YES! Another white/black user!
@exximuss_9780
@exximuss_9780 9 жыл бұрын
+mathew carlson Orzhov mage reporting in. A friend with blue is no friend at all!
@benjaminwoodman
@benjaminwoodman 9 жыл бұрын
+mathew carlson "It's actually quite simple, but since you've only recently begun to walk upright, it may take some time to explain." -Jace Beleren, to Garruk Wildspeaker Essentially what blue players say to green and red players. lol (no offense im just messing with you (;)
@HTYM
@HTYM 6 жыл бұрын
Blue spells matter.
@derricklowe8506
@derricklowe8506 9 жыл бұрын
I would have to say that a tribal merfolk deck is possibly one of the best blue decks I've seen. It has a splash of white, but only for the Azorious merfolk.
@thesaurusakasickakatheomc7688
@thesaurusakasickakatheomc7688 6 жыл бұрын
I'm sure I'm not the first to bring this up, but Baral Brawl was banned, and I think it's a perfect illustration of your point.
@definitelyNotGreg
@definitelyNotGreg 9 жыл бұрын
I feel up until recently blue has been wizards favorite so what we are seeing now is not blue getting less power printed it is that the power is more spread out. sure most of the aggro decks don`t use blue but you still have merfolk and delver; you also have every control deck in modern except for mono black discard and some tron decks.
@tommywarner7694
@tommywarner7694 9 жыл бұрын
He does have a good point, but there are some good early game blue like stratus dancer (doubles as a counter spell too)
@overtrist
@overtrist 9 жыл бұрын
The problem is - anything that you print to support control, will find its way into Scapeshift and Twin - which are already really powerful decks. Cryptic Command is one of the most powerful spells in Magic, if not the most powerful - so I don't see a reason to complain. Nice vid still and very good voice for storytelling.
@knate44
@knate44 9 жыл бұрын
Yes. All the counter spell! While we're at it, maybe throw in some more White and Black Counterspells. And more One Drop Blue counter spells like Force Spike. Honestly I think Stubborn Denial comes CLOSE but Ferocious on a mono Blue spell is ROUGH, unless of course, you splash. it's just needs a better Trigger.
@peterwillems2422
@peterwillems2422 9 жыл бұрын
Frost Walker wants a word with you.
@knate44
@knate44 9 жыл бұрын
Peter Willems I tried to talk to him, but then someone targeted him with an ability and he panicked.
@peterwillems2422
@peterwillems2422 9 жыл бұрын
LOL Dandan is not so skittish though
@Mihail4444
@Mihail4444 7 жыл бұрын
Delver Snapcaster Mage Flip-Jace Overall 3 viable creatures that I can think of (at the moment) for modern I disagree about 2 mana counters though Negate - counters SOOO MUCH... it deals with everything other then creatures Although true that blue needs other colours to be viable. its because its a support colour - it helps, not wins by itself. 2 mana counter to counter everything - is too much. And by the way blue is my fav colour. But I don't want it to be overpowered because blue is already one of the strongest colours if not the strongest.
@mbalazs3544
@mbalazs3544 7 жыл бұрын
5:13 the logic is flowed by using the "making" in the concept of blue as counter spell the thing that is the avatar of not letting creation happen :D Aside this as a fellow star trek fan I completely support the creation of a film for fans :D
@sqrlmonger
@sqrlmonger 9 жыл бұрын
Best part of these videos is realizing he (the actor/father) has no clue what he is talking about but still sounds so damn convincing! I love it. It doesn't hurt that the argument being made is not unreasonable, though in fairness there are some counterpoints to be made to parts of it.
@keeganmcgrath3020
@keeganmcgrath3020 9 жыл бұрын
Dear Professor, Greetings, I am a big fan I love all of your videos and reviews. Your voice is very soothing and I love listening to you. So on this topic when is the next podcast I have just started listening and I have noticed a large gap and no episode three. Will there be more or is this a cancelled project? Thank you for your time and peace
@TolarianCommunityCollege
@TolarianCommunityCollege 9 жыл бұрын
Keegan McGrath Next podcast will be as soon as Wedge gets over the flu
@keeganmcgrath3020
@keeganmcgrath3020 9 жыл бұрын
Tolarian Community College Thank you and I hope he gets better!
@bybeewins
@bybeewins 9 жыл бұрын
Best MTG vids EVER! Thank you, keep it up!
@Woodsy2575
@Woodsy2575 9 жыл бұрын
Great early game blue card... hmmmm I don't know JACE
@adamj4759
@adamj4759 9 жыл бұрын
+Woodsy2575 Look at the date, and cool one card. Compared to other colours, they seem to have weakened blue
@ryshep3588
@ryshep3588 9 жыл бұрын
+Woodsy2575 Also Delver of secrets. Not as good, but can be a great clock from the get-go.
@gunrugger
@gunrugger 9 жыл бұрын
+Woodsy2575 Delver of secrets, Snapcaster Mage, vapor snag, spellsnare.
@Danielstarcate2
@Danielstarcate2 9 жыл бұрын
+Woodsy2575 Come back to me after you've made a Mono Blue list and 4-0'd a FNM -.-
@poohbear4821
@poohbear4821 9 жыл бұрын
+Woodsy2575 jace is four mana. Early game is turns 1 & 2 & maybe turn 3
@qwertyzz7
@qwertyzz7 9 жыл бұрын
Having a card that is good against every deck is a strong card. Half of the difficulty of magic is playing the right cards, the other half is drawing the right cards. These are the faces of the coin we call variance. If you don't have to consider these when constructing a deck all the difficulty would be gone. All the sharks would play the one colour which fixes both problems. R&D are trying to fix a genetic fault in magic, the colour we call blue.
@JakeMGolle
@JakeMGolle 9 жыл бұрын
It's interesting because having poor mono-blue support could also be considered a failure on a flavour level. Green splashes so well, and it kind of makes sense: life, big, prosperous, nature. Nature is in all environments. Well, for the most part. Blue should be a challenge to splash, considering one of its "traits" is narcissism, and supremacy. Mono-blue, in my opinion, should be supported as a recognizable archetype in all formats and most sets both because of flavour reasons AND to make the game more versatile and fun.
@pizzaparker9464
@pizzaparker9464 9 жыл бұрын
I like Chasm Skulker. It only costs 3 mana and lets you put a +1/+1 counter every time you draw a card.
@ethanfordford6621
@ethanfordford6621 9 жыл бұрын
I agree with this. modern's true control color is black because it gets a lot of support blue was given support for a while but when something does what it is supposed to we can't keep it in modern or legacy... Commander is the only format where blue isn't cut in half by them but by your wallet force of will, commands and the pact are the only cards that I can't afford for my blue deck so they do need to support blue by giving us something just not cancel okay anything that one mana less with an upside like buy back or delve... I don't know but now I want a colorless delve counter....... The control player inside me wants it bad
@collinmccoy9650
@collinmccoy9650 9 жыл бұрын
I have been playing my mono-blue mill deck for the past 2 years now and watching blue be one of the most feared by most (even though I lose with it most of the time). It's a great deck but it's not fast enough and people are afraid of it so much so not many people play against it. I also play izzet and rely heavily on blue so anything that give me big shenanigans aren't from these past couple years of sets. I would like to play more blue but they keep it so pushed down farther than others I just can't find anything really good for it.
@TeaIngyer
@TeaIngyer 7 жыл бұрын
If black and white can have a lightning bolt, why am I stuck using Pongify in my blue commander decks? Why can't we have a blue bolt? something like. Unprecedented Waves (U) Instant (uncommon) "Place target creature on the bottom of its owner's library, and if its CMC was 3 or greater, that card's owner gets a 1/1 blue elemental. Threshold: If you have 5 or more instants and or sorceries in your graveyard, create a 1/1 blue elemental"
@aldenburton6240
@aldenburton6240 6 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, with Coreset M19 and Dominaria their seems to be a mono blue deck more than possible. Playable blue creature in there: Tempest Djinn.
@terrytrailsoff7778
@terrytrailsoff7778 9 жыл бұрын
Your father is a great actor. Mad props.
@noneofyourbusiness3288
@noneofyourbusiness3288 9 жыл бұрын
Blue was always a cool color in my oppinion. It really is sad, that there are not many strong mono-blue decks (devotion and merfolk are all that I can think off). It has become a mere support-color, that does not function well alone.
@Zenn3k
@Zenn3k 9 жыл бұрын
Blue has been overpowered for 20 years, it doesn't need any more support.
@ChemistWeb
@ChemistWeb 9 жыл бұрын
[4:20] The closest thing they printed to this, recently, was Jace, Vryn's prodigy. That card's upwards of $70!
@gunrugger
@gunrugger 9 жыл бұрын
I love this guy. His opinions are the best. Very well thought through. I want to buy him coffee.
@Alex-sj9uq
@Alex-sj9uq 9 жыл бұрын
I'm a new player to magic. I have a question. Can you play a creature and a sorcery on the same turn if you have the mana cost?
@ArtanesCS-Rockon
@ArtanesCS-Rockon 9 жыл бұрын
yes!
@Alex-sj9uq
@Alex-sj9uq 9 жыл бұрын
What about a sorcery and an instant? Thanks for the help!
@peterwillems2422
@peterwillems2422 9 жыл бұрын
The Yoshi PvP you can play whatever as long as you have the mana, you just have to watch the timing of the spells. Only instants can be played with another spell on the stack (before it resolves, the spell is put on the stack).
@peterwillems2422
@peterwillems2422 9 жыл бұрын
The Yoshi PvP Also, only instants can be played on your opponents turn (old interrupts were changed to instants).
@Alex-sj9uq
@Alex-sj9uq 9 жыл бұрын
+Peter Willems can you play two sorcerys on your turn??
@ConsoleCleric
@ConsoleCleric 9 жыл бұрын
We need a rant about combat damage on the stack, red land destruction (ponza) and graveyard order checking effects.
@Srcsqwrn
@Srcsqwrn 9 жыл бұрын
I agree with you on all of these points. My friends hate me playing Blue, though. Play blue, stall the game for a million turns, and die. xD
@tylerdurden5127
@tylerdurden5127 9 жыл бұрын
The old man should get a raise on his payroll (LOL). I think blue may not be getting as much love as it once did to compensate years and years of getting way too much love (3 out of the 9 cards from the "power 9" are blue), but it still got Delver of Secrets not too long ago, and when theros came out there was a very strong mono blue aggro deck. So, even though R&D refuses to release a functional reprint of Counterspell, I think blue is getting roughly as much love as the other colors. Maybe you professor, as a blue mage at heart feels blue should get much more love than it is getting, and I totally understand that as a green mage at heart, I feel green isn't getting as much love as it deserves. =)
@zacharykesselhaut2274
@zacharykesselhaut2274 9 жыл бұрын
As a control player I would love a modern legal UU counter spell.
@samholden5758
@samholden5758 9 жыл бұрын
Deprive. Just hope your opponent doesn't read the the text on the card about the ;land...
@flyingcatfeesh3883
@flyingcatfeesh3883 8 жыл бұрын
its funny when my friend, who plays black say my "just the wind" card ( put target creture on top of owners library for 3 mana , I think ) is over powerd when a turn befor he revived two cretures gave everything death touch and and gave my 2/3 stitched mangler -2/-2
@johnathonsmithard7938
@johnathonsmithard7938 9 жыл бұрын
Omnitell, the last good mono blue deck I saw was Omnitell. It was two days ago.
@triskopedium
@triskopedium 7 жыл бұрын
Old man MTG rants are the only thing about MTG i like anymore, as a player from 93'
@lucashebberd353
@lucashebberd353 8 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, there are some OK blue cards in Kaladesh. I kind of like Thriving Turtle and Revolutionary Rebuff. But I am a beginning player and only have 2 mythics...
@joseph-yt2qk
@joseph-yt2qk 9 жыл бұрын
I may not agree but It's something you could debate all day. I'll just say he makes a lot of good points and I see where the rant comes from. By the way how does your dad feel about these? You said he doesn't play MTG but does he enjoy these rants? How much does he understand about the topics he talks about? I think it's awesome that he does these and he's very convincing, awesome video as always.
@ReVoLynx
@ReVoLynx 9 жыл бұрын
Gotta say, your dada is a pretty good actor. Like, suprisingly good. Tha said, are the fade transitions slower than beofre? They seemed to somehow make the flow not as flowy than before...
@augustgreig9420
@augustgreig9420 6 жыл бұрын
I quit playing when they stopped reprinting counterspell. I dominated for months at LGS with my Rising Waters/Rhytic Study/20+ counterspell deck. That was back when we used to call it type two. Archivist, Patron Wizard, Temporal Adept... We used o call Counterspell "sweet daddy". I just can't believe they banned a cooking card that was such a staple. Blue is slow and weak in the early game, it NEEDS Counterspell.
@anthonysumerel969
@anthonysumerel969 8 жыл бұрын
I love blue, but it is very hard to play nowadays. I have a Kickass mono blue mill commander deck that has Teferi, Temperal Archmage as my general. and uses Sphinx's Tutelage and Teferi's Puzzle Box. A lot of my buddies get mad cause I win most the time. but I always explain to them this; majority of my creature spells are 6 mana plus that gives you all the time in the world to take me down to almost a quarter of my life points or less. problem is they play too conservatively because they are worried I'm going to counter their creatures or send them back their hands and make them put those back into their library with Puzzle box. lol I love my Teferi Puzzle Mill.
@Tekken438
@Tekken438 9 жыл бұрын
This old man is awesome. I respect him from the bottom of my heart.
@Asmodeus555
@Asmodeus555 9 жыл бұрын
Totally agree! They won't even let us have good cantrips! As a modern player I get Serum Visions and Slight of Hand as my best, Which seems fine until you play with Pre-ordain and Ponder, Brainstorm or even Impulse. We don't even really have anything playable for card advantage, 3 mana for two cards at sorcery speed? Hell no! Dig should have cost two blue to cast. that might have made it weak enough to stay in the format. I have to say I really don't like where modern is going at the moment. It used to be legacy (very) light, now it is more and more becoming uber standard which isn't looking like that much fun atm. All us Tempo players are now scratching our heads at how to kill 5 toughness creatures (why isn't there anything playable in the format!!) without our Dismembers dying to Siege Rhino and pinging us for 4. In summary Bring back Preordain!!!
@peterwillems2422
@peterwillems2422 9 жыл бұрын
At least we will get Anticipate in DTR
@Asmodeus555
@Asmodeus555 9 жыл бұрын
Peter Willems Yeah I'm not convinced that will be amazing. it looks ok, its at instant speed, that is really nice but at two drop isn't so nice. I wish it was a one drop, even at sorcery speed. Will it see play over SoH or Visions, probably not but might see play in a few decks that can need to dig further, combos in with control packages and that sort of thing.
@jtc120880
@jtc120880 9 жыл бұрын
I love blue, I'm a manipulative little bastard. I built a monoblue mill deck. And having done so, I have to find myself nodding at much of this. It's doable. Playable... Well I don't have too many friends to play against and what few I do stay pretty busy. So unfortunately intensive playtesting hasn't been a viable thing. Course I tend to build decks that are more fun than tourny oriented anyway - not a whole lot of 4 of's. My MBM deck is mostly 1-of's and 2-of's. 2 Jace, Memory Adepts.2 Doorkeepers and a handful of walls (fog and frost mostly) to stop aggro decks and mill more cards. I do think however blue/black is a better mill build. I have one of those too.
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