MTG Expert Tries To Guess How Good Yugioh ARCHETYPES Are w/

[@thecardgame_mercenary]

Farfa Andys let's say it together! CHAIN LINK ONE CIR TARGET DANTE, CHAIN LINK TWO DANTE TARGET CIR

[@LizEllwood]

Even more crazy is on turn 1, CHAIN LINK ONE CIR TARGET DANTE, CHAIN LINK TWO DANTE TARGET CIR just gets you a free Beatrice/Zeus, all you have to do is Link Summon with it. There's a reason Farfa always says Masq Dante/Beatrice is full combo, the non-engine in the deck is just so good at stifling plays

[@LexLuxray]

I was screaming this the whole time. I lost it at "target Graff"

[@JinFreeks]

OK, now here's the question for the super casual sometimes Magic Commander player that watches these for pure entertainment value and is a bit intrigued: How'd you get your Dante to go into the GY tho?

[@LizEllwood]

@@JinFreeks So the text on Dante reads "If this card is sent to the GY," which can happen in a variety of ways. The most common (and best imo) is that the most broken Yugioh mechanic in the last 5 years or so is link summoning. The summoning requirements for something like I:P Masquerena, one of the best Links in the game, is "2 non-link monsters," which means any BA + dante can make Masquerena. Now here's where things get dumb: the XYZ materials on the monster don't exist on the monster while the XYZ monster is on the field. Notably, while the monsters "leave the field," they do not leave the field in the sense of the game, they simply cease to exist. However, once the XYZ monster is sent to the GY to link summon Masquerena, they exist again and are sent to the GY by card effect (actually important with the other deck, Tearlaments), so you can trigger a Cir effect under Dante (provided you didn't use the special summon effect that turn) and that's how you send Dante to the GY. Why Konami thought "Let's give every deck a way to just send things to the GY" I don't know, but boy howdy does it make the game go faster

[@JinFreeks]

​@@LizEllwood So you get to make a threat and get all the resources used back into play? Well, OK. Minus the other monster used for Dante but eh. You win some, you loose some I guess. Now that's pod racing! Thanks for clearing up how'd you get your own Dante into the DY turn 1.

[@botindeldiablo]

The better way to explain Xyz is "materials are just ammo for the effects of the monster"

[@scarletterose1303]

I explained XYZ summoning to my friend by saying "you stack the monsters on top of each other like pancakes, then put the XYZ monster on top. The monsters below it are Energy for the monsters effects. When you detach, you are spending that resource to use those effects by sending it to the graveyard."

[@SheruMuko]

@@scarletterose1303I explained it using Pringles

[@FriedGamer]

It’s a few kids in a trench coat sneaking into an R-rated movie

[@james123428]

You take whatever monsters a xyz monster lists that are on the field and attach them as auras to the xyz monster to summon it then some monsters remove those auras to activate their effects is how I got it through to a mtg friend.

[@if7723]

​@@FriedGamer Except you kill Timmy to gain effect immunity

[@gossiperzoroark9629]

The other part of Tearlaments is the sheer lack of any lock, No locking into fusions, no lock into Tears, no Dark/Water lock, no Aqua lock, no restrictions on attacking The only limit is your imagination and once per turn

[@wickederebus]

The only limit is the card pool.

[@bankkunarak]

the limit is how many bs you can shove into your extra deck

[@devonsenpai7907]

Tbf the lock would be the requirement of having to use a Tear monster as a part of the fusion.

[@TheRealAquaz]

​@@devonsenpai7907 which isn't a lock per se with how much great generic fusion Bossmonster exist or with only 1 part beeing named ( laughs in Tear-Lightsworn-Shaddol for example or Tear-Despia )

[@NeostormXLMAX]

Tearlaments should have locks, its insanely stupid how they didnt get locked out of links at least like virtual worlds

[@Psynapseful]

Love how Nikachu steadily internalizes how much even the worst Yugioh decks tutors out menacing combos.

[@TheOneJameYT]

It's a slow process but he's getting there lol

[@tlst9999]

Wait till he finds out about Mellfys and the evolved Spright Mellfys

[@joshking-f4w]

Can we just agree to not show him Runick? He might explode - a deck that makes your opponent contemplate strangling you while you banish every card from their deck while also having infinite recursion + draw power?

[@leebulger7112]

@@TheOneJameYT I think it's funny that Burning Abyss and Tearlaments are both Dark Attribute, but they look like Fire and Water monsters.

[@TheOneJameYT]

@@leebulger7112 lmao true

[@Onibushou]

"Quick Effect: detatch one material. Send one card from your deck to the GY... ok, that could have potential." I nearly choked on my dinner with that one. Potential, indeed.

[@TheOneJameYT]

🤣🤣🤣

[@laytonjr6601]

The Burning Abyss monsters have graveyard effects! Think of the combo! And the material you detached also has a graveyard effect! Obviously the only monsters in your deck are Burning Abyss, because otherwise they get blown up when you play them! No reason to play something else!

[@LordApoca]

Enter all drytron players ever lmao

[@dudono1744]

@@laytonjr6601 Imagine, if you will, that one manages to sneak 2 level 6 monsters on the board.

[@user-eb9sm2tg1t]

😮​@@laytonjr6601

[@John_Doe974]

"Was there an Extra Deck in 1998?" Yes, but back then it was the Fusion Deck and Fusion monsters were all garbage vanillas

[@jadenknott]

Some even weaker than the materials themselves like fusionist

[@HopUpOutDaBed]

and it was infinite size so you could theoretically just play every fusion card that ever existed just in case... and people still played 0 card fusion decks because it was that irrelevant.

[@jamesaditya5254]

@@HopUpOutDaBed playground decks run vanity cards like Dark Paladin. You get playground clout, which back then means quite a lot

[@windhelmguard5295]

@@HopUpOutDaBed imagine infinite extra deck with eater of millions.

[@deregapreyahvattaffdiff]

​@@windhelmguard5295 Or Alba Zoa

[@qedsoku849]

A part of what made tearlaments so good that wasn't mentioned was that they are also difficult to remove from the board, because traditional removal often triggers their graveyard effects.

[@widchaponjearaphunt5452]

their fusion boss, can summon it self back too wtf

[@menaatefadly]

​@@widchaponjearaphunt5452the other fusion sends a tear momster to grave when removed and THEN it returns to the field lol

[@aciesara5444]

I duster their entire backrow. I neg 1 card. Somehow they plus billion.

[@beegyoshi1685]

​@@aciesara5444do not destroy a tearlament card worse mistake I've ever made

[@drewbabe]

@@aciesara5444 they need it

[@Jeffrey_Tyler]

I'm glad they said it. The game isn't usually "is this card bad or good?" it's "is this card good when you combine it with another card, or bad because of another card that negates it; neither of the two options is there any context for here" 😂 I do love the format though, its not meant to be super serious. I get hyped for every new episode of it because it's fun.

[@TheOneJameYT]

I get hyped to make them too lol

[@Kerubu]

A few small inconsequential clarifications for Nikachu's questions 1: When Nikachu was asking about sacrificing stuff to special summon, since he was trying to find a use case, a lot of the extra deck would apply here. 2: It's called material for every extra deck summoning mechanic, it's not a one off thing. Thankfully there's examples of that later into the video. 3: The extra deck existed but it was just called the fusion deck, Blue Eyes Ultimate Dragon lived there. 4: this is a small one, but Nikachu should note that if Timeaus was used as fusion material you can only pop once since it's an effect monster. edit because I posted too soon after the decks were evaluated 5: The Ishizu cards that self mill are actually just banned, so all you get are the 2 shufflers at 1.

[@Psynapseful]

Just got to the very end where Nikachu asked how Konami thought the deck was ok. For the Magic-centric fans of the channel, it's a interesting bit of history that people did not initially think Tearlament would be the strongest archetype in the set it released! The continued support is what pushed it over the edge. There was another archetype (Spright) with a much more obvious combo, and much more linear lines of play, while having a similar amount of ability to push through Force of Will style interaction. People thought that deck was definitely better for quite some time, and it tooks months of innovation before Tearlaments caught up in terms of deck building and playing theory. At that point, Tear also got three waves of support (one directly, two indirectly) that put it far over the top.

[@TheOneJameYT]

Thanks for this comment!

[@luminous3558]

This is actually incorrect. Tearlaments was already the best deck in the format during Power of the Elements, it just needed more experimentation for people to figure it out. Whether this was due to Garura being a TCG exclusive and majorly crushing Spright end boards via super poly or the absence of maxx c(Tbf this one hurts spright more than tear). It was simply a very hard deck to play and build especially before the future support simplified deckbuilding via a bunch of must run cards. The Darkwing Blast format prior to the release of Magnificient Mavens would've been an excellent format to explore a variety of tear builds before they were all homogenized, sadly it only got to exist for 2 weeks.

[@johngrace1312]

@@luminous3558when did OP say that this deck wasn’t strong? The perception during POTE was that this was 2nd best deck, whether that was factually accurate or not at the time, that was the perception

[@tonyshen8543]

tear is perfectly fine

[@steeveedragoon]

My favorite Tear engine Pre-MAMA was branded in high spirits sending D.3.S Frog. Practical and hilarious.

[@omarg1471]

Cir Target Dante - Dante Target Cir, rinse and repeat

[@saninorochimaru2]

TrollDespair

[@menaatefadly]

Farfa would be proud

[@trollinggaming9903]

yeah BA no die

[@recentmap7268]

Why the BA no die?!!😂😂😂

[@wickederebus]

​@@recentmap7268cause they already in hell.

[@jyashin]

To illustrate how powerful Tearlaments was: There was one Yugioh tournament (I think it was Japan only) where for once, there was NO banlist. You could use whatever you wanted. Frog OTK, full power Spyral, anything. And over half the people played Tearlaments. The power of this deck isn't that its combo is better than others (it actually isn't). It's the fact you could do all of this on your OPPONENT's turn, which is exceedingly rare in Yugioh.

[@menaatefadly]

Also its a Graveyard deck, your second hand in Yu-Gi-Oh where a shit ton of cards can shine

[@randomcatname7792]

Those results were skewed because all the tryhards already owned tearlament. Theoretically, zoo should be the most powerful.

[@minhanhle4027]

@@randomcatname7792 which theory are you talking about

[@zed60k47]

tbf I think it's because it was fresh after the MAMA format so the decks people had ready built and experimented with were tearlaments decks, I doubt most people were prepared with their magical scientist FTK's in the box. Not that I doubt that tear wouldn't be one of the best decks regardless of banlist. Most cards in the banlist currently don't really do anything either since a lot of them are completely unhit in master duel and nobody plays them there.

[@RNGHater]

​@@randomcatname7792 I think they would be tied, but on some scenarios, zoo might win because of an innate tool that tear has trouble with: Whiptail. Now, if it's Tear after Kashtira? Tear for sure. They can probably make Arise-heart and zoo would have trouble there.

[@matiaspereyra9392]

56:47 funnily enough people where raving about sprite and where like "oop, we're going to have the sprite format, seems like the tears are a gamba deck pack filler" and then they printed the ishizu cards and it was over The mirror was really fun to play tho, it really made you feel mentally engaged

[@dcscorch969]

This isn't true, danger tear was considered the best deck before mavens

[@Xeroxthebeautiful]

​@@dcscorch969 Casino Tear ended up being considered the strongest deck in PotE format but Spright was predicted to be the stronger deck before release mostly because Spright was near tier 0 in the OCG in a way it never was in the TCG.

[@menaatefadly]

I literally would mill almost my entire deck every game Maaan i miss those days but yea death to Ishizu cards, Tearaments Strongest

[@Narium413]

@@Xeroxthebeautiful Yeah because OCG has roach and the Danger cards are kinda bad in a Maxx C format.

[@screwtokaiba]

​the instant tear was leaked everyone knows its very strong and pushed though. Spright does create more fuss on drop though yea

[@VB2P360]

I wish you showed him the Tear meme image with the entire board covered in cards, next episode with Nikachu PLEASE bring it back up and show him the image; it'd be amazing.

[@BeanXPFoX]

very interesting that he said Konami tried to make DM good because that actually happened with Blue Eyes. That's when they printed Blue Eyes support that was built to slay the meta including Burning Abyss.

[@TheJeSTeR7530]

They also banned a bunch of cards before they released it, so it wasnt even really that Blue Eyes was that great, but rather that they made everything else just kinda suck during the release of the new Blue Eyes cards.

[@if7723]

@@TheJeSTeR7530 The ban list is unbiased, what are you talking about. (flys away in blues eyes jet)

[@trysephiroth007]

I played against Burning Abyss in a tournament once after not playing Yugioh for many years. I didn't bother reading any of the cards and just let my opponent do their thing. Thanks to this I finally know what they were doing

[@TheOneJameYT]

That's how I learn every deck lmao

[@joshking-f4w]

One of my friends has a card shop local to him that will do their own little tournaments without using the banlist (so full power decks) and it gets crazy. It’s not uncommon to just see full power tearlaments or Kashtira running around

[@jessequeen4550]

@@joshking-f4w That sounds miserable, I like Tearlament, but full power Ishizu Tear is always gonna win because it is the strongest deck ever made by far

[@tiggerbane4325]

@@jessequeen4550full power Exodia is up there as well.

[@menaatefadly]

​@@jessequeen4550I love tear but my god! Who the hell thought the Ishizu cards are remotely balanced!!!

[@Kylora2112]

The fun thing about Dante is that it mills *for cost* and not effect, so it can't be negated! (Unless something on the field prevents activations)

[@TheOneJameYT]

Yep!

[@YukiFubuki.]

gotta love it when the beneficial part of the effect is the cost and not the effect, i still laugh every time im on a lunalight deck and i see my opponent veiler/imperm my kaleido chick

[@Kylora2112]

@@YukiFubuki. Same (also a LL player). "ASH!!!" "Kaleido mills for cost, dude. The effect is the name change." "D'OH!"

[@barongeoffrey75]

So is cherubini. Plus being able to send any level 3 monster is bonkers.

[@SilvantusSchnauzer]

​@Kylora2112 I'm just a silly duel links player but I thought it was good to negate the name change? Doesn't it let them go straight in the boss monster?

[@ivantheenigma577]

"At least Dredge didn't look obviously broken at first glance." It's F****** hilarious that you say that, because it was the exact same way for Tearlament. The OCG, which is the Asian portion of Yugioh that gets all the cards months before us in the west do, COMPLETELY MISSED this deck. The first couple months this deck's set came out Spright, which was another archetype in the same pack, was the vast majority of top cuts for tournaments. Since the "Ishizu Cards" got released Tearlaments was the unquestioned best deck. However, people have gone back to look at pre-Ishizu Tear only to realize that it was STILL the best deck even without the Ishizu cards and OCG just didn't see it.

[@chaotixthefox]

Not even going back to look at it, those who paid attention during POTE format in the TCG noticed that "Casino Tear" was actually dominating top cut compared to Spright.

[@james123428]

It’s kinda wild he put together dredge and tearlaments but not with burning abyss haha. Especially after he was so unsure about the first few tear cards. The switch was so good and when you realized he realized the look on your face was priceless. Great video!

[@TheOneJameYT]

Thanks James!!

[@JacobKendrick]

It's so funny when he'd lock onto one part of a card and consider it jank because of it lol, Dante is jank because it just switches to defense but ignores the milling and recursion, perlereino is jank but ignores it's a searcher and a pop every turn, very funny to look at an outside perspective

[@brolteon2740]

as soon as he said perlerino was jank i was like OKAY LETS GOOOO LETS SEE THE NEXT CARDS 😂

[@TheOneJameYT]

I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING

[@darkwolf9637]

My favorite part of this series is when you can see them squinting trying really had to read yugiohs tiny text.

[@TheOneJameYT]

That part is always so satisfying knowing I already know what the cards say XD

[@Zansatsu-0379]

Reading the card explains the card. Now, if you'll excuse me, I need my glasses to read this pendulum monster with the entirety of War and Peace written on it.

[@if7723]

​@@Zansatsu-0379 You do t bring your microfilm reader to games?

[@Zansatsu-0379]

@@if7723 Only when I forget my giant sized deck that I play out of the trunk of my car.

[@FishFosh]

BA was also just really well poised to keep taking advantage of outside cards released before and after its initial support waves. It absorbed every level 3 engine because it could use them to make Dante. It used trap cards that discard like Raigeki Break to trigger Malebranches, it used Skill Drain because none of its main deck monsters activate on the field and Dante mills for cost. It mixed perfectly with Phantom Knights, and cards like That Grass Looks Greener and Sekka's Light turned it into a super highrolly combo pile. It was probably the only archetype that was every major playstyle throughout its lifetime, being control, stun, midrange, AND combo. For an archetype of monsters that die instantly if you control any non-BA monster it was shockingly flexible.

[@PipePlazaStudios]

The funniest part of your El Shaddoll Winda example is that at its peak that was considered a very subpar play as it was just so much more powerful to not lock yourself out of summoning even more on your opponent's turn and the shaddolls were considered mediocre mills when you could just play more Tearlaments It's something they did at the very start and returned to after the bans (when they had to fill the gaping voids in the deck)

[@slanax]

"Dragoons" were originally a type of cavalry that used guns, and had relatively little to do with large firebreathing reptiles other than the name (which comes from their guns being called dragons, apparently) then Final Fantasy decided that Dragoons are spear fighters in dragon shaped armor that can jump real good, and considering our Red-Eyed buddy has no horse or gun in sight I'm thinking that's probably more where he got his name from

[@ich3730]

i can imagine that a guy on a steed shooting fire ( the gun ) can be compared to a dragon rider.

[@slanax]

@@ich3730 I'd imagine the shooting fire part was definitely where the gun got its name from, but funnily enough dragoons initially only used their horses for mobility and dismounted to fight, and only started shooting from horseback later, so presumably they had their name before they were actual "dragon riders" (that's what I gathered when I checked the first paragraph of wikipedia before writing my comment at least. for all I know there could be more to the name origin after all)

[@RTU130]

Ye

[@ShadyCleric]

The difference between dragon and dragoon is that the second is the name of a army unit while the first is the name of a creature

[@Lord_Raviel]

It is probably worth pointing out that in the context of Red-Eyes Dark Dragoon the word Dragoon is likely being used in the same way Final Fantasy uses it rather than its traditional meaning. That being a word to describe what the Japanese would call a "Dragon Knight". A literal translation of its japaneses name is "Super Magic Dragon Knight - Dragoon of Red Eyes" where "Dragoon of Red Eyes" is actually a transliteration of what they would have expected the English name to be because putting english sounding sub names on cards is common to make them sound cool in Japan.

[@Bob_Bobinson]

Can't believe you didn't show him the best burning abyss card, tour guide.

[@TheOneJameYT]

Should be called Tour Guide of the Burning Abyss tbh

[@spectacularbear]

they could have made Virgil, Tour Guide Of The Burning Abyss to go with the Dante's inferno theme but they didn't :(

[@Gabu_]

@@spectacularbearVirgil does exist, but he's a synchro and doesn't synergize too much with Dante.

[@evilagram]

Could have explained XYZ a little better. "XYZ is an extra deck monster, so it lives in your companion zone, until you summon it by using creatures as material, sorta like phyrexian dreadnought. It keeps the creatures used as material underneath it, like the new Craft mechanic. Then it can detach them as ammo for its effects." Also, I think this is maybe a little dirty considering Dark Magician never got the spotlight, but it had way better support than Burning Abyss in the long run.

[@supernova9453]

Tbh I think he could’ve explained a lot of stuff better

[@finaldarkfire]

Would love to see the Kozmo archetype featured in a future episode. If for nothing else than to see how long it takes the guest to realize they're looking at literally a combination of Star Wars and The Wizard of Oz XD

[@KaoruMzk]

Well Nikachu was partially right on something: Konami did succeed in making a certain iconic anime deck tier 1 for a while, it just wasn't Dark Magician... It was Blue-Eyes. They even rigged Worlds so Blue-Eyes could win.

[@barongeoffrey75]

i wouldn't be against it for DM. I suppose Kaiba resonates more towards them than yugi.

[@TheWinterPhoenix]

A couple corrections on this one. Dark hole wasn't the card that came off the banlist with Burning Abyss. Dark hole was already limited. The card that came back was Raigeki and it wasn't played because Shaddoll and Burning Abyss were the best decks and would just float. As for the Tearlaments thing, Winda happened but near the end of the format people started cutting the shaddoll package because it wasn't needed.

[@Shemegory]

Slight correction: Raigeki generally did less than nothing against Shadoll since going first they'd just make Midrash... I mean Winda

[@mihaimorar2043]

To note, the Extra Deck has been around for as long as Yu-GI-Oh! has been existing outside Japan (originally called the Fusion Deck) and Dark Magician had a few fusion even in the original anime (Dark Paladin, Amulet Dragon, Dark Flare Knight)

[@joshking-f4w]

Tearlaments was basically not giving your opponent a turn. Especially in Master Duel, where if you saw tearlaments, you just surrendered because you knew it was gonna be a loss unless your opponent didn’t know how to play

[@felixargyle3659]

If you were going first, you could at least try to build a board, but Havnis or a Herald with an Ishizu miller was basically a GG.

[@Toast-cc7gr]

Just play floo and tech in all the grave hate and watch them scoop after flipping macro cosmos on there 15 card mill

[@MrFelblood]

Of course, there were quite a few people running lower tier tearlaments decks, even though they didn't have the cards to build the optimized version, because they could sponge up a few easy wins from the intimidation factor alone.

[@joshking-f4w]

@@MrFelblood no joke lol, that gave me a few easy wins when I was working on building my Tear deck. I would throw in a couple of the monsters I did have, and just play them and watch my opponent scoop when he saw them

[@Darshe0]

I love him saying the 500 boost on Planet is useless, probably what pushes the card over the top and beating your opponent’s Tear fusions in the mirror

[@vo1ce147]

Now we have to teach nikachu the way, so everyone said with me " chain link 1 cir target Dante , chain link 2 Dante target cir"

[@vo1ce147]

Also added note about the tear In ocg the mentality when tear release is like , it's lose to Maxx C people did labing it but why we do that over like the spright which also lose to Maxx C but not that hard, And then the TCG swoops in with casino tear ( danger tear) and ocg get the ishizu to make the deck into tear 0.

[@menaatefadly]

Troll Despair

[@VictorFC]

​@@vo1ce147 tear were always better agains maxx c. You could give one draw, search an interaction with Kitt and pass. The deck can play on the opponent turn

[@santiariza15]

My favorite part of this is that he was kinda piecing together CL1 Cir target Dante, CL2 Dante target Cir 😂

[@TheOneJameYT]

He’ll never forget now!

[@Powerman293]

There's a billion things wrong with full power Ishizu Tear but I think you managed to sum it up easily with "You could summon Winda on your opponent's turn 1".

[@OyVeey]

And the crazy part was, that wasn't even close to an optimal play. You had to get lucky to mill the Shaddoll names, since they're bricks that you only run as 1-ofs. Rulkallos or Kaleido were much more easily accessible, and could both end a turn just as effectively as Winda if timed right, but didn't restrict your own plays next turn.

[@devilravenninja9597]

Should've just said "Material is a keyword for cards used to make Extra Deck Monsters"

[@TheOneJameYT]

I didn't think of saying it that way till it was too late lol

[@啊啊啊啊-m4s]

The scariest thing about Tearlaments is that it's the only archetype that can make a board going second. This pretty much doubles the consistency of the deck. All the other archetypes, no matter how good they are, need to enter their own turn to start doing things, but not Tearlaments. You can't even avoid that by not activating monster effects and play around Havnis, since they can just use Tearlaments Kashtira that doesn't require their opponent to do anything.

[@bidoof6458]

1:00 He's referencing the Paradox brothers from Yu-Gi-Oh! DM, who also showed up in GX and have received some support last year (Gate guardians). I was surprised that Nikachu knew about this, but not Jame, I guess is my point.

[@joshuasbrooks]

Also just wanted to say I am absolutely loving this series and having Nikachu come back multiple times now and seeing his game knowledge and card analysis improve each time has been great. Would be awesome to see a little crossover where you maybe try and teach him a little on Master Duel

[@TheOneJameYT]

Glad you like them! And maybe the Master Duel thing is an option down the road too

[@Pyroniusburn]

Haha I won't lie dragoon was the last card I was expecting as the last DM card. Great choice for a deck that was never good, you'd think they'd manage with the infinity support cards it got but nope, even blue eyes somehow lucked into being good in a format once.

[@bicknell1258]

Nikachu was on the nose, and I don't know how much of the convo was cut for time, but Tearlaments was underestimated to the second best deck when it came out. Granted, this was before the Ishizu's, after that it was uncontestable. But people eventually realized, which also became true after the banlist in the jank Tear decks still around, that there are enough mill cards in the game where you can more or less guarantee that you get to the fusion effects.

[@CaptainMarvel4Ever]

Yes! Nikachu and the Tearlaments! shame he wasn’t more invested in em. Maybe Mermail or Gihki is more his speed. In any case, great choices for cards. Ya know I’ve learned a bit more about this Nikachu fellow. He playes modern, loves his pet decks, doesn’t read his cards, argues with his fans…. he’s a born Yu-Gi-Oh player! For real tho, he’s got some great screen presence. I’d love to see you guys do more stuff. If he wants a better representation of how the real game is played, i feel like Arc-V came the closest out of any anime to reflecting the real life game. Subbed preferably because then it’s easier to follow play by play. Though… I kind of enjoy him trying to ue the backwards logic of 4Kids season one early DM anime as his only frame of reference to understand modern Yu-Gi-Oh. Another great vid, keep em comin!

[@TheOneJameYT]

Thanks!! More videos to come with Nikachu for sure

[@SDREHXC]

You do a really good job with these my dude. I was skeptical at first because of some of the post guess analysis not aligning with what I would say about some of the cards but I have to admit I enjoy all these little segments you do. And you either get lucky with guests, have a knack for picking them or just there aren’t any bad ones to even pick because they all do a great job.

[@TheOneJameYT]

There's at least a tiny bit of skill involved :D but yes overall you never know what they're going to say so I've been getting lucky too

[@rockon1793]

Might be interesting to find like a short clip of whatever top tier archetype going off on master duel or a sim program to show at the end to let them see the power in action?

[@nigerianprinceajani]

Nikachu went full DB Grinder on "Perlereino". Also having Lightsworn and Tearlaments in the same episode would've been cool.

[@GSSAGE7]

The Extra Deck has kind of been around since the beginning of the TCG. I say "kind of" because it was originally just the Fusion Deck, but then Konami released non-Fusion Extra Deck monsters.

[@thewave-qz9lt]

i wished you also showed the tearlaments boss monster kaleido-heart he's a beast,being able to revive himself and send your monsters to the GY to fusion and shuffle cards on the field back into the deck.

[@TheOneJameYT]

It’s hard when I can only show 5 cards per archetype!

[@ratomaw2650]

this channel has the cleanest guess challenges i have seen so far. also great choices for the guests invited. they dont bring hate for our stupidly concieved game and actually do a good job at analyzing and reading and understanding the cards. they actually put in some effort. bravo to this whole magnificent package

[@TheOneJameYT]

Appreciate it!!

[@jeffjagoda1614]

For how much Tearlements were hated honestly I think it’s the best Tier 0 format ever. There was so much interaction that it made the games fun.

[@chkmte1304]

You didn't even show this man the rest of the tearlament main deck monsters and he still realized how actually cracked those cards are

[@alextygesen3101]

It would be funny if you showed 3 archetypes that all massively interact with each other to form a deck for something like april 1st, just to make the guest wonder if what you're showing is not one massive archetype. Like, show the guest Fire Kings + Volcanic + Snake Eyes right now and just say "it's just one deck, they are all the best"

[@modernkiwi6447]

clearly he has never seen someone hit the Tear name into Agido into Keldo yoinky sploinky and go +90 in card advantage

[@nexidal9656legacy]

An archetype that, I think, hasn't appeared in this format yet is Gusto. I'd love to see Nick trying looking at the Sphreez Tailwind Gulldo Winda combos, and trying to imagine the "ram into the enemy" being anything other than niche.

[@anacreon212]

xyz stuff seems complicated when you first hear about but it makes sense in execution. Although there are... weird rulings about the materials themselves like the materials being in a state of both being on the field and not on the field depending on the ruling and what detatching actually triggers for gy effects, etc. Some materials also know that they are materials and others don't. Tearlament at full power was so far ahead of its time. The mirror was some of the most fun and skillful yugioh the game has ever had. The problem was it just completely shit on everything else.

[@lywzcx663]

Materials are definitely on the field, but they are not cards hence the difference in name. Detached materials will become cards right before it went to the GY. So they are cards sent to the GY but not cards sent from the field to the GY. Also, materials do not have any information unless specifically mentioned.

[@pi_xi]

31:38 You can attack with more than 6 monsters in a turn. The first possibility is to use Extra Links, which is possible with some archetypes, e. g. Appliancer. The second possibility are effects which can summon monsters in the Battle Phase. For example, Kozmo monsters can banish themselves after attack to Special Summon another Kozmo monster.

[@ThineAlphaRooster]

I think it would be real beneficial to have a combo displayed for the archetype using the cards you show off, so they can see how it would play out. Would give the guest a better understanding of how the deck would play, and let them make a more informed decision.

[@TheOneJameYT]

I’m thinking about doing something like that for sure

[@waffle2020-]

You had to make him see a tearlaments mirror, lost opportunity. I am waiting for that to happen

[@matiaspereyra9392]

And even then havnis make winda wasn't all that, which is crazy, but it was easier to just make dweler

[@JAnseeuw]

I dropped yugioh for MTG in 2013 when burning abyss was near its peak (I think) because I was too in love with my Sylvan deck to accept it couldn't keep up. (I also played a Jowgen control deck for fun because very few people knew how to answer it.) I dropped MTG in 2023 because evil Wotc layed off some good friends of mine, and over a thousand of their co-workers right before Christmas. I'm a man who no longer has a nerdy-nation, and they've left me with a whole bunch of useless competitive card game knowledge.

[@yoda-ghost]

Not Nikachu just ignoring the in-built counterspell on dragoon 💀

[@DragoonZell]

Japan held an OCG no ban list tournament, The Tearlament decks *destroyed* every other deck in a no ban tournament. That is how powerful that deck is.

[@skysaber23]

So far the best interactions I've had while playing YGO was Tearlament mirror match. Man my brain would hurt after the match.. 😂😂😂

[@27ALAIN.]

"So u have to mill Havnis in order to activate her effect? Thats terrible!" Had me diyng😂

[@TheOneJameYT]

It took a lot for me to hold it in!

[@flamboyantwarlock7101]

Fun Fact: "Dragoon" refers to mounted infantry. It's not weird that Red-Eyes B. Dragoon isn't a dragon, because he's a dragon rider.

[@SpainLord]

I really like how we started with burning abyss to introduce recursion and gy effect triggers and how resilient decks that mill and have a buch of gy effects can be And we finished with tearlaments, the deck that said, hey what if we do gy effects but 10 times better

[@TheOneJameYT]

Yea he caught on at the very end lol

[@jonathanagostini7469]

If tearlaments is like dredge, burning abyss is like madness

[@leorfishman1926]

cursed explanation for XYZ monsters: 'imagine if you took Champion a creature, but instead of the championed creature coming back, it's used as a resource for the championing card'

[@TheOneJameYT]

That is cursed 🤣

[@gurth-quake1627]

And then there was that time I was 1 card away from beating tier 0 version of tear with ancient gears after the dude full comboed.

[@iceolation_]

Keep the series going my guy. This is a go-to videos to watch anywhere

[@TheOneJameYT]

Thanks!!

[@Hc2p3n4t4rp]

"What were they thinking when they made this archetype (Tearlaments)" Konami: Viiisassss Staaaarfroooast

[@TheOneJameYT]

🤣

[@jamiecollins7915]

I see you found your favorite victim for a magic player reviewing yugioh cards, optimal colors for each archetype as magic cards listed below. -burning abyss: red/black -dark magician: blue/green/black -tearlaments: pure blue

[@TheOneJameYT]

Yep! That's a good way of looking at it

[@jamiecollins7915]

@@TheOneJameYT all from a casual yugioh player who hasn't played in tournaments once in my soon to be 27 year old life. I learned the magic card mechanics from channels like this, maybe you should mark your channel as educational?

[@TheOneJameYT]

That's a great idea @@jamiecollins7915

[@epthopper]

Tear isn't really a color, it's just dredge, which doesn't really have a consistent color identity lol Like some dredge decks don't even intend on casting spells for mana

[@jamiecollins7915]

@@epthopper I mean, I have to pick a color for the whole shtick, it's either blue with all the aquatic themes in the deck and lots of merfolk in the archetype members or blue/black for the archetype members and their connection to other darker emotion archetypes in the lore

[@1_____________________]

Tearlaments mirrors were unironically my favorite time in any card game. There's so much thought and detail that has to go into every interaction, the sequencing, the way you stack your chains, what you allow or prevent your opponent from doing, intentionally skipping HOPTs so you can use them later, etc. And them doing the same (and actually playing the game most of the time unlike in other ygo formats). Winda and abyss dweller can suck a fat one tho.

[@grantswallow1256]

“I’ve shown you the 2 most relevant ones, but there’s one other one as well” Cherubini: Am I a joke to you?

[@TheOneJameYT]

I didn't show him that one because it wasn't out yet when pure BA was good and I don't want to be misleading!

[@SatanicWren]

@@TheOneJameYTNeither was beatrice tho

[@s07561277]

The Virgil disrespect. Smh my head.

[@TheOneJameYT]

You gotta admit it's the worst one lol

[@ThatOneWeirdFlex]

​@@TheOneJameYTnormally yes. But its so fun playing pure BA.

[@SnowyGrass]

every time tear was hit it was like "how many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man!".

[@satpoet753]

Just the fact that burning abyss archetype is based off of La Commedia Divina makes the deck op

[@Ava_Grim]

I really do like these videos, because this is such a great way to teach someone YGO. You get an pretty accurate insight of his thought process, so you know exactly what kind of information he needs to get a better idea why something is good or bad + Nikachu is a funny guy, ngl. It´s not just entertaiment, it´s also great learning.

[@philgoad5587]

A really fun one for Nikachu would be taking cards that were banned at any point and just asking him to guess why.

[@TheOneJameYT]

True!!

[@Kylora2112]

The thing about Tearlaments is that, as far as Tier 0 formats go, it was an AMAZING mirror match that was a lot of fun. It was absolutely oppressive against everything else, but if everyone is playing Tear, it's actually fun! Unlike a lot of other Tier 0 formats (Snake-Eye/Fire King format right now sucks, and the old DAD formats were awful, too, but Nekroz was really run if you didn't play the Djinn lock).

[@maple1234567890321]

I believe the most oppressive tier 0 was spyrals. also, the full power zoo era with D barrier was pretty bad too lol

[@mopsik56]

Hey, finally I found someone who thinks the same! Tried to explain it to someone on MD meta why this Snake eyes format sucks, they commented "Platinum opinion discarded".

[@maple1234567890321]

@@mopsik56 lol. That is MD for you. This format is kinda boring, imo. Whoever goes first kinda just wins

[@mopsik56]

@@maple1234567890321 Yep. I liked Tear format because going first didn't matter that much. This format is so toxic and boring because it's kinda coin flip simulator

[@maple1234567890321]

@@mopsik56 100% Snake eye FK can play through a good amount of hand traps

[@Mranimeotaku117]

Xyzs are plains walkers that use the cards underneath them for their loyalty

[@TheOneJameYT]

That’s a great way to put it

[@YukiFubuki.]

the xyz summoning mechanic and its materials sounds simple on the surface but i think its probably 1 of the hardest things to possibly grasp for non-yugioh players due to the actual mechanism behind the mechanic like xyz materials are not considered what they were on field (e.g if you used monsters or trap monster they are not monsters anymore but is still monster/spell/trap 'cards' depending on their original card type), they do not exist on the field or occupy any zone despite being physically located within the same zone under the xyz monster they were used to overlay for and neither becoming an xyz material or being detached even counts as leaving the field in any way too but are instead in limbo or a limbo-state outside of the board where they simply dont exist at all i remember after explaining to a mtg player about the xyz mechanic and in the end he had to ask if the entire mechanic was some sorta glitch-within-the-matrix in the game or something along those lines due to how he interpret xyz summoning as since the more you learn about it the more eldritch the entire mechanic actually seems as if it was an outergod wearing the skin of man i think an easier way to explain a 'material' however is simply anything used by a special summoning mechanic as the cost to summon the monster hence they're the 'material' cost i dont think he understood or realize if not remember that the player cannot be attacked directly without a clear board first so technically blocking is already built into every monster in yugioh so dante's effect to change position after atking isnt for vigilance but so that he doesnt get blindsided by his lower atk on the opponent's turn after atking on your own

[@egoalter1276]

Its juat a symptom of inconsistent design, because of ygo's lack of keoywrds. In mtg you would either have the materials equipped to the xyz summoned monster, like reconfigure or mutate, or have them exiled, but kept track of by the xyz summoned creature, like you would with dauthi voidwalker or impact draw, making clear their current zone and game object status. It seems like when konami printed this mechanic, they simply didnt consider how it would interact with exististing other mechanics, like ltb effects, and they ruled them post facto, unintuitively.

[@YukiFubuki.]

@@egoalter1276 they actually did consider how this mechanic would interact with other mechanics since not being on or leaving the field would make it inapplicable to cards whose effect would trigger when they leave the field so it wouldnt fall into the same pitfalls that synchro decks were abusing to hell and back the fact that konami had a web game made not even a year into xyz being introduced with the term limbo state in its source code showed that no this isnt something they stumbled into or some odd coincidence at all but something planned from the start

[@lywzcx663]

Materials are definitely on the field, but they are not cards hence the difference in name. Detached materials will become cards right before it went to the GY. So they are cards sent to the GY but not cards sent from the field to the GY. Also, materials do not have any information unless specifically mentioned. In yugioh effects precede rules, so if a card mentions information of a material then it will do ignoring the rule. Gizmek Naganaki can even refer to information of cards banished face-down.

[@YukiFubuki.]

@@lywzcx663 im well aware of how xyz works but that doesnt change how fringe xyz actually is in actuality once you look passed the surface of the mechanic

[@lywzcx663]

@@YukiFubuki. You do not. The fact you say they are not on the field means you do not. Of course becoming an xyz material or being detached do not counts as leaving the field. The former they never leave the field. The latter there are no effects that says when a xyz material leaves the field and since materials are not cards they will not satisfy when card leaves the field.

[@tactlesstrack1217]

The funny thing is people though tearlament was gonna be tier 1 or 2 and spright was gonna be tier 0 from what was happening in OCG and then they got release around the same time as the ishizu cards

[@wilhelmbecknee5870]

My favorite magic-yugituber comes back with another banger! I've been watching nikachu for about 2 years too so it would be cool if his prediction for some gameplay came true

[@TheOneJameYT]

Noted!

[@PMProut]

speaking of tiered archetypes, it would be funny to throw in Blue Eyes in this series since it won worlds once (but of course, it's not that good - coming from a Blue Eyes player)

[@greninja4175]

Never have i heard more accurate era descriptive language for Dante "Ohhhhhhhhh, its a BROKEN card"

[@nico9912]

two of the ishizu cards, both that mill 5 are actually banned right now

[@TheOneJameYT]

Insane lol

[@patrickdix772]

8:10 A way to explain Yu-Gi-Oh combat in Magic terms would be that every combat is a like a fight effect in Magic. Each creature gets to fight, and tramples if the target isn't in defense.

[@annaliseazura]

Nikachu and reading card text dramatically. Name a more iconic duo

[@baileydombroskie3046]

On this point 30:33 , there is decks that can, without loops, pump out 10k+++ or even a few can 100k+ of DMG on there 1st turn (2nd turn of the duel). Most decks can sneeze out 8k DMG in 1 turn. Control and stun decks rarely OTK, midrange decks can OTK w the right cards or if allowed to summon a powerful OTK focused monster, and OTK and combo decks can trip over themselves and “accidentally” OTK. HERO decks, no matter the variant, can usually put out 10-70k DMG if they r not stopped or slowed down in any way. My DH OTK deck puts out on avg 30k if not interrupted. The highest I’ve ever done w my DH OTK deck against no resistance was 50k. That duel was an exhilarating experience. But my buddy was none too happy. While the deck and combo was far more jank then the rare 50k DMG board I made once was, I did come up w a deck and combo that is a slight variant to my current DH OTK deck that can push out 70k+. And if any MTG players r reading this and don’t have a gud perspective or understanding of wat numbers I’m taking about bcuz they r so used to single and double digit values, here’s a translation in that regard. 1 in MTG is equal to 400 in yugioh. That means: the avg yugioh deck puts out the equivalent to 25 DMG or more in there 1st turn. W some rare finds being able to put out 250+ without using loops. It is trivially ez for OTK and combo decks to put 20 DMG on board in a turn. HERO decks normally put out between 25-175 DMG in there 1st (going 2nd) turn. My DH OTK deck (Destiny HERO One Turn Kill) puts out on avg 75 DMG on my 1st turn. But I once got upto 125 DMG when not stopped. I came up w a DH deck that can potentially get to 175 DMG.

[@adamxue6096]

The most hilarious and most horrifying part about Kitkallos is that, in the OCG, every once so often they do a no-ban list revert errata tournament, well, not all cards got completely reverted, but that's besides the point The point is, when Ishizu Tear and Kashtira joined the mix, Tearlaments was SO BROKEN in the no-banlist format, that they considered specifically banning Kitkallos from the no-banlist tournament. They did try that, but then decided that it was against the spirit of the tournament and let it free again, it's still wrecking havoc in that tournament, only very rarely bested by dragon links because they have Victory Dragon so they for the most part only needed to win one duel in a whole match. In the TCG Tears got hit with slightly less bans and limiteds, but in the OCG, 2 of the ishizu cards are banned, the kashtira tearlament is limited as well.

[@JarvisBaileyVA]

Guy knows about planewalkers and hex proof but doesn't know what a damn Dragoon is, sickening.

[@cyberdragoon1432]

If there’s anything to note, probably use bonus cards as a means to show specifically named cards when said card is relevant like you did with DM, though for fusion monsters in general I’d say give Polymerization as a given for the first showing of a fusion as like a point of reference.

[@izaiahsundquist6877]

0:38 This for sure. If you do it, Common Charity and Edison would probably be the best places to begin so that it's easier but still fast like Modern.

[@MrCowmuhflage]

Great like always, thanks man always like seeing Nikachu

[@TheOneJameYT]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@MarikK]

XYZ is like you stack two creatures on top of one another and a new creature is summoned. Then, there's an ability of that new creature to shoot one of the attached creatures to the grave for the cost of an ability. Two two mana cost wood elves would then stack into a High Elf Archer, let's say. You then send both to the grave/discard and it then targets and exiles a creature your opponent controls.

[@joshuasbrooks]

Nikachu really just seemed to miss that last part of Dragoon when analysing it. Especially when it comes to when he found out that you can't attack going first. One thing he's still yet to learn going first = build a board of interaction to stop the player going 2nd from doing what they want, going 2nd = break the opposing board, playing through/around their disruption and attempt to kill them. In this case Dragoon's effect to negate literally any 1 card/effect the opponent has can be a huge step in stopping the opponent from being able to break through your board, something already made very difficult by the high 3k attack and it essentially being unaffected by other card effects. Comparing Yu-Gi-Oh! when coming from a MTG background you've kinda just got to see every deck as a combo deck. A well timed counter spell can absolutely cripple a combo deck in MTG, often stopping their combo there and then... same applies in Yu-Gi-Oh! I think his analysis of Burning Abyss would have been alot easier if he'd known Farfa existed before being able to make his decision. I think he'd have had alot more reason to see it being a powerful deck. Not seeing how it interacts with the opponent and only seeing the value engine side of it all definitely makes it seem considerably weaker. Tour Guide whilst not being a BA archetype card also would have really given him a huge clue into how good this deck was.

[@lilyq1024]

Loving the archetype series. Great work as always!!!

[@TheOneJameYT]

Thanks!

[@hallyuniverse]

50:39 Dragoon is not powercrept, it's still one of the best extra deck monsters ever printed, the issue is Verte is banned (so it's not as generic) and Branded goes for Sanctifire to just turnskip instead of making Dragoon going 1st. If there is a deck that has no issue making it in the future, or Dark Magician ever becomes meta, the card will be insane again.

[@Sarge23]

29:07 Number iC1000: Numerounius Numerounia: *You Called?*

[@TheOneJameYT]

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