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[@TheMTGRebellion]

Lets get to 10k subs! -MAX

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[@TheMTGRebellion]

Hey thank you for the support. We'll keep working hard for you and this community. -MAX

[@nicholasgilvin6396]

Another great review. This is how I get my weekly mtg news and brewers corner decks to take for a spin. Thank you guys for all you do, keep up the great work.

[@TheMTGRebellion]

We will! Thank you for the support. -MAX

[@tonythepokemonguy751]

Getting the nice alternative art for a card you use is the best thing

[@TheMTGRebellion]

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[@jayrod115]

Fantastic analysis as always gents. Part of my weekly diet as I prep for RC Dallas 💪

[@TheMTGRebellion]

Appreciate the kind words

[@ReginaldusGaming]

I been looking forward to this latest release and it did not disappoint.👍👍

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Ayyyy! Thank you for the kind words

[@ReginaldusGaming]

@@TheMTGRebellion I just joined you guy's discord because this channel's content as shown me this is a community I want to be apart of at a tournament level.

[@TheMTGRebellion]

Love to hear it! Welcome in

[@iamKerrad]

you guys rock, always a pleasure!

[@TheMTGRebellion]

Thanks so much!

[@SaltMinerChad]

For the Golgari deck, it is important to maintain a big blocker in the air with the Archfiend. Much like the Slogurk build using a Vorinclex. I have played many hours with this build and it is a must have for this deck’s main board.

[@TheMTGRebellion]

We may disagree on that particular point, but I see where your logic stems from and can respect the line. - Riktus

[@TheMaxDamage9999]

The fact you have to block flying means Dross doesn't hit for several turns correct? Doesn't that put you at risk of not finishing the job fast enough?

[@SaltMinerChad]

@@TheMaxDamage9999 there is one turn where he blocks and the rest of the turns he gets sideways and attacks. They cannot afford to take six every turn and start to throw them in the way. They inevitably use a kill spell on the Archfiend. It is quite hard for me to understand all of the ins and outs of why it works. But, when it is not in the deck, I lose more often than when it is in the deck. These are just my ideas as to why. Not hard truths.

[@BBern636]

@saltminerchad golgari is my most played standard deck. I played against the mirror today and they ran that 3 drop from OTJ that lets you look at your top 5 and put a land into the battlefield tapped whenever you commit a crime. Have you tried it yet? I was impressed by it in the games it was out and I’m thinking of finding a place for it in the deck.

[@SaltMinerChad]

@@BBern636 I like the Freestrider Lookout as well. But it competes with Lili, Sentinel, Preacher, and Trespasser for the slot. I think it is good if built around but otherwise would seem like one of the others will be better IMO.

[@charlesdexterward6831]

always looking forward to your fun and precise analytics of the meta. Even started playing best of 3 thx to that after years of best of 1. Had a fun azorius flash list entering top 200 for a short while. I think flash could be an answer for the current meta maybe. Considering esper flash for pest control and ertai. Keep up the great work folks, love your show

[@TheMTGRebellion]

Appreciate your kind words

[@TheMaxDamage9999]

That's awesome to hear. Thanks for letting us know.

[@oakherder17]

I'm here from Commander, trying to make a Selesnya deck =D

[@TheMTGRebellion]

Welcome welcome! - Riktus

[@oscarfadlala5613]

That’s my pirate deck 😍

[@TheMTGRebellion]

Ayyyyy! Come join the discord! Love your pirate build

[@dittmar104]

Archfiend feels good against domain as long as you play it early. You've probably already hit them for a fair bit with Bronco by the time it lands so they'll often exile it with layline and reset it's counters. It's definitely not something you use as out later in the game (pitching it for Lily if need be), but it's a great closer against slower decks especially if they just spent their turn three and two removing your smaller dudes. It allows you to pivot towards beatdown when you know you can out pace their removal. It is rather good against Temur too since it gets over Ill-Timed Explosion really nicely, they either need to ditch the virtue or find enough recursion to keep their life up.

[@TheMTGRebellion]

Fair points! - Riktus

[@stereotonic]

I think the mana cost holds back bloodletter in golgari compared to other 4 drops

[@TheMTGRebellion]

True. If it was 3-cc, it would be a huge upgrade, especially for combo purposes. - Riktus

[@robertocasco2967]

Izzet Pirates ftw

[@TheMTGRebellion]

Deck is spicy! - Riktus

[@m0b1us_1]

Best magic content on KZbin hands down! The rebellion always represents ✊

[@TheMTGRebellion]

Wow, thank you for that. We're really trying to do things a bit different from the norm Glad you like it. -MAX

[@jautele49]

Put some respect on Urbrask Forges name 🔥🔥🔥

[@TheMTGRebellion]

Oh fo sho. That card won me a trophy already this year.

[@SirStickBug]

Yay, Mono-Red! 😆

[@TheMTGRebellion]

It has returned! - Riktus

[@peterwidia1410]

For the boros convoke deck, does anyone know what the extra mirrex in the SB is for? And how do u side it in?

[@TheMTGRebellion]

There for the control matchup, comes in so you hit your 23rd land to raise the probability of ensuring a smooth first 3 land drops. - Riktus

[@peterwidia1410]

​@@TheMTGRebellion ohhh I see, is it only for control or also the midrange matchups? And what do you usually replace the mirrex with?

[@TheMTGRebellion]

Against control, I tend to look at which parts of my game plan they're trying to attack/interact with and adjust accordingly. I tend to lose all 4 cases as a starting spot. This is due to lack of targets and temporary lockdown issues. - Riktus

[@peterwidia1410]

​@@TheMTGRebellionthats true, thanks a lot!

[@TheMTGRebellion]

Glad to help! Happy hunting! - Riktus

[@aeon-s]

What cards should Esper midrange be playing to beat the aggro/control match ups we're seeing?

[@TheMTGRebellion]

That's a rather ambiguous question as there are multiple Aggro and multiple control archetypes currently, each with different cards that help hedge against them. Any particular matchup you want to know more about? - Riktus

[@aeon-s]

@@TheMTGRebellion The match-ups in particular would be UW Control + Boros Convoke. What kind of cards could I run mainboard that make those more in Espers favor? I'm already on 3 Pest control for Convoke sideboard and 2 duress for Control + the regular negate and disdainful stroke package

[@TheMTGRebellion]

UW control matchup requires tempo and disruption to win. They have inevitability. Your best draw is duress into bat into raffine, with counters ready by turn 4. So I would focus on those principles while evaluating what to push into the sideboard. Boros Convoke the Pest Control's help, but the matchup is one where they weirdly have inevitability as well due to Knight Errant of Eos. They'll push lithomantic post-board to keep raffine off the board. Aclazotz is strong here as your ideal hand plays a board-wipe into a sticky threat that can it run away with the game. Hope this helps!

[@aeon-s]

@@TheMTGRebellion Thank you so much! :) that was extremely helpful.

[@fuchsiafreud]

Kinda had it with boros convoke at this point ngl. Good riddens Raffine and Temur Land solitaire rotates so that's my hate deck.

[@TheMTGRebellion]

It'll be a fun rotation, but honestly, having a ton of fun messing with brews at this point as well. - Riktus

[@TheKeepon]

Is it time to pivot from Domain, Max? 🤔

[@TheMTGRebellion]

Locked in for the duration of the bet, but in terms of what to play at a tourney, I'd be looking elsewhere personally. - Riktus

[@TheMaxDamage9999]

Yea its rough out here for Domain but there's still time. Domain may not even have to be the deck that hates out Control. It may be able to pick up points by preying on such a deck once it succeeds in rooting out Control.

[@thatvillainjay]

Whew...it's gonna be a long summer...

[@TheMTGRebellion]

Just gotta build the right way through hyper Aggro and control ;) - Riktus

[@fernandodiaz9064]

Where's DIMIR? I'm baffled... it seemed to dominate the meta before OTJ and then the absence of Dimir cards in that set just crushed it's growth

[@TheMTGRebellion]

Boros Convoke and Esper Midrange have held it in check for the most part. Still weird to see it fall off after last year's performances. - Riktus

[@jmoney9494]

I had put together an esper phyrexian tribal last week and used cavern of souls and seedcore to put in the glissa . And of course sheoldred

[@TheMTGRebellion]

Very cool. Let us know if you try the Phyrexian deck from Brewer's Corner. -MAX

[@MrAlalalalalala]

Andrea Mengucci's version of domain from the last PTQ with ancient cornucopia is better VS control

[@TheMTGRebellion]

What leads you to say that? I'm curious where it gains points. - Riktus

[@MrAlalalalalala]

@@TheMTGRebellion I've been playing the spelunking version for a while and switched to the lifegain version. You have more card advantage with the ill-timed explosion, life gain buys you time. Analyze the pollen can grab Cavern of souls. You can burn through them with the lightning helix + archangels. Post side-board you have sharks that can generate token with small cost spells. There is just more interactions and I had more success.

[@TheMTGRebellion]

Helix with shark does seem spicy, fair point

[@DavidBauer-vi6kl]

Thanks Guys! I Love the Tribals decks and Phyrexians are simply Great ! They got me to the Mythic 7:1.

[@TheMTGRebellion]

Love to hear it!

[@SleevelessMTG]

[@TheMTGRebellion]

Lets get after it!

[@00110000]

It's wild to me that Boros Convoke is at the top of Tier 1 and Red Aggro is bottom of Tier 2, but it makes sense when you explain the tech they've incorporated, especially the Aven. Really goes to show what a little flexibility can do for a deck.

[@TheMTGRebellion]

All about those flex slots

[@perudabo631]

It's wild to me that what was a pioneer/explorer build, managed the shift into standard with the new sets

[@TheMTGRebellion]

That thraben inspector reprint truly did a lot of work. - Riktus