Much Abrew: Zacama Storm (Standard)

[@MtgVGandBGFan]

What about Prowling Serpopard in the sideboard? It would at least let you try and resolve Zacama, plus give your opponent a clock when they sideboard out a lot of their removal.

[@docterfantazmo]

*Hostage Taker:* Yaaar, don't worry mates, I'll subdue the beas- *Incinerated*

[@SomeFreakingCactus]

In all my years of playing Magic, I have never seen any deck more beautiful.

[@daltonmekis]

In round 4 game 1 at the end you said zacama was your only option and that a counter would cause you to lose (which is what happened) but you had 2 walking ballistas in hand with 9 mana. You could cast one for 4 mana (x=2) and if that resolved you could ping both ciphoners. If it got countered, you could cast another ballista for the same cost to do the same thing

[@jacobvartuli507]

I really enjoyed the one video format. +1

[@zackestin1368]

Who would win, an optimized magic deck built around a two mana anthem and evasive creatures or one metal boi

[@Valkyrie.99]

I love the new 1 video format.

[@jackmuaddib3745]

This format is much better. No need to click new videos, just click once and watch. Great!

[@MTGGoldfish]

Sweet! Glad you like it.

[@edwardpang6439]

we are so blessed to get two against the odds decks in one week

[@noetics02]

I know people have different opinions, but I personally prefer the multiple video format for Much Abrew and Budget Magic. (and I know that releasing multiple different videos benefits your channel too so I am all for that!)

[@SilverAlex92]

I believe that youtube is actually favoring long videos since a while ago. Not just because now the the algorithm is based on total view time instead on actual views per video, but also because it loves when someone watchs a long video completely, and keeps coming to the same channel for more content

[@the_snakelicious]

Everyone has the right to their own opinion, but it would be nice if you gave actual reasons as to why you prefer the old format instead of just throwing the statement in a vacuum. As far as I can see, the old format didn't offer anything that the new format can't do, and it had the downside of spamming the articles with video links and spamming people's subscription boxes with unnecessary videos, so the new format is automatically better.

[@Jesin00]

I like the 1-video format.

[@MTGGoldfish]

Sweet!

[@luliby2309]

Oh cool. Two Against The Odds this week! Nice upgrades. Would be cool to see.

[@MTGGoldfish]

Lol, it does sort of feel like another Against the Odds

[@lari4305]

I really like the one video concept on this. Multiple videos are fine too but for me, seeing the lenght of the match right away kinda spoils a little bit of it. But either way, thanks for the entertaining content!

[@ViolenceisJustice]

What was the reasoning behind not going ballista x 4 and nuking their board at 14:45?

[@Rooreeloo]

"but card draw!"

[@jacobwithey6398]

because he only played 2 copies of ballista and there was one in the grave, so if he played it he had less outs to win

[@MTGGoldfish]

Walking Ballista is our only way to kill the opponent with all of our Zacama mana, so I was hoping that we'd just be able to win that turn.

[@pablocastilla1176]

I really like the Deck tech vid + games vid format for Abrew as well.

[@alexanderstojanow3773]

Since you have to play white. Would you consider a couple of Cloudblazer in the deck?

[@corriedebeer799]

This guy is like my fav mtg tuber, his responses when he wins is too good.

[@Daralome]

appreciate the revised list, love your vids :3

[@josephhawkins7974]

I prefer the multiple video playlists, but I won't complain if you need to do single videos for KZbin algorithms or whatever.

[@arcarodrigoarca]

I second this.

[@Dragonspassage]

Pretty sure walking ballista is bpth combo finisher and removal in this deck. It should probably never be played on 1...

[@nickbrokeit9688]

14:42 I think you should have ballista X=4 and pinged all the siphoners

[@JustAnotherPest]

Well hot dang, timestamps are in the description.

[@MTGGoldfish]

For now they will be in the description. In the future we'll have a pinned comment so they are even easier to find.

[@the_snakelicious]

I would also suggest including the matchup along with the timestamps.

[@gustavowadaslopes2479]

once a player asked me 'how can you have fun without winning'? Playing wildly is the answer I've learned watching this channel.

[@la.zanmal.]

vs the grixis decks, you also have the option of casting small ballistas and pinging their siphoners away to stall a turn....

[@kieranscott8007]

Only 6:24 in, first game: “we did it” I know we did Seth, I’m so proud

[@SubTactHiphop]

Kieran Scott everyone watching was cheesing about for sure when he got excited

[@Caedynna]

Maybe Jadelight Ranger is worth it here instead of Wayward Swordtooth, since Panharmonicon.

[@teagancombest6049]

It pains me that you never counter a single thing with Supreme Will.

[@ehallam08]

You're a madman Seth. Love the channel.

[@Breadnaught]

I like the 1 video format.

[@jundullah13zh]

You can gift of paradise evolving wilds to make it untapped lands =)

[@MTGGoldfish]

Good call!

[@jimduggan]

against br, you had 3 mana floating when they cast disintegration. could have shot scrounger

[@spikescafe3940]

Or tapped differently and killed Aethersphere Harvester. Not that that game was winnable drawing 10 lands in a row.

[@andrw-ir7bq]

Hour of promise much? Ramps from 5 to 7 and can make some blockers to give you some time. Wayward sword tooth seems really really bad in this deck, I would drop it for almost anything else.

[@alexandrehomobono7296]

This is what MTG Goldfish exists for!!

[@zoehollinsworth3031]

The brink of death Zacama storm....So beautiful

[@gagefellows561]

Should bring in chandras defeat for glorybringer one od the main reasons that card is in the board

[@Kiryael]

Great video, love the change of formats !

[@shatzinorris1417]

One hour videos are very though to get through. The cut off version is my favorite

[@vbkllr]

I prefer the separate videos, personally :) I am able to better manage my time by watching one at a time in free moments, where all lumped together I am less likely to see later games. Just wanted to let you know! Same for Against The Odds! Separate videos would be better for me personally. Thank you :)

[@MTGGoldfish]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@the_snakelicious]

Why can't you do the same thing with a single video? There are timestamps in the description now for each match, so you can simply stop the video whenever you want and click on the timestamp for the next match later, having separate videos doesn't really accomplish this better, it only spams the subscription feed. In my opinion the single video format is 100 times better.

[@vbkllr]

Felipe, There are a couple reasons separate videos work better, but the main one is when I come back to youtube, my feed shows me the unwatched videos and reminds me that they are available, where a partially watched video is considered abandoned and doesn't show up. If I were someone who could watch them all in a row, or if it was a higher priority and I would dedicate brain space to returning to partially watched videos, then a single video is fine. I am letting Seth know my preference as a frequent watcher, but someone who dips in and out. To continue to grow his brand and maintain number, he has to appeal to less die-hard fans, and that includes busy folks like myself. Just my opinion. Thanks and be well

[@the_snakelicious]

You can change your settings so that watched videos won't disappear from the sub box, and even if you don't want to change your settings, there's a very easy way to solve this problem, just favorite the video so you won't forget about it. This has nothing to do with being a die-hard fan or with how busy people are, I am busy as well and usually watch one match at a time, but I still preffer the new format.

[@SilverAlex92]

actually, his argument has a lot sense. Im not a die hard fan of lsv streams, and when I drop one in the middle I usually forget about it until youtube shows it in the continue watching section. I do personally like the new format, but I can understand why is easier to watch the videos in parts

[@absolutfx]

I don't care for Standard lately, but I see Panharminicon and I have to click.

[@JonaxII]

Counters nothing - 'hope that this supreme will saves the day'

[@Jesin00]

Yeah it has more than 1 mode

[@EliBrenton]

"Rootbound Craig"

[@calvinng3765]

I think this deck really wants to start off with sweepers in the mainboard in place of the wayward swordtooths

[@ODIRGO]

if you only had white for zacama, why not playing more white for fumigates?

[@smjsuperscott]

*opponent: "I'm gonna take that zacama hostage... *Zacama: "lol nope"... Nom...

[@MaserXYZ]

The video format is great, but you really need to make playlists for these even when it's only deck tech + one video. I was very confused when the video started right into the games with no deck tech first.

[@MTGGoldfish]

Thanks for the feedback, that's a good idea.

[@the_snakelicious]

Yeah just make it like you did for the Agains the Odds videos, a playlist with two videos, deck tech + the matches, also make sure to include the link to the deck tech video in the article.

[@Nr4747]

Really cool deck - the only problem I see is that it might be a turn too slow against RDW or Rakdos Aggro, especially on the draw. I understand that the deck has Walking Ballista, Abrade and Gift of Paradise to stay in the game, but it might not be enough against those fast aggressive decks - or am I missing something ?

[@HunterCrim4767]

38:45 Just in my opinion; Discarding *Release to the Wind* and keeping *Censor* hurt right there. Keeping it up and bouncing an attacker or playing it on the *Zacama* would be better? His trigger hits, they try to *Vraska's Contempt*, *Cast Out* or any kind of removal other than a counter and thats two free activations of his untap ability, enough to cast counters or even an extra blink trigger, like that *Censor* you cycled. *Spell Pierce* can squeak out those early counter-counter's, when they play a threat and leave up two lands and some scarry blue mana! lol Also the line at 40:00 was probably *Walking Ballista X2* & eat counter then play 2nd *Walking Ballista X2* which can kill the two *Glint-Sleeve's*. Allows you to survive the attack from the *Whirler Virtuoso* and Thopter (4 Energy). If he taps out or doesn't have a counter you get one more chance next turn to stabilize with 18 mana and 6 activations of *Zacama*. Wipe em and heal up to 14. Changes I would make; (If i had the money to put it together lol) *Release to the Wind* is such a sweet card too. So versatile it seems like a 4-of maybe? *Essence Scatter* over *Censor* maybe? *Wayward Swordtooth's* for some mass removal like, *Bontu's Last Reckoning* and *Fumigate*. Or even *Oketra's Last Mercy* . Leaving up your double mana lands with counter to buy a big. *River's Rebuke* Sooo good at getting that extra turn or swinging for kill. *Commit // Memory* would look soooo good when you go off, after its countered something! *Tormenting Voice* Alternate win con? "Double colored spells would be very playable with *Gift of Paradise* and *New Horizons's* mana." Also wonder if a dino version with *Raptor Hatchlings*, *Cacophodon* would be enough to play a *Commune with Dinosaurs*-*Thunderherd Migration* ramp package? It is an awesome deck too. Let's just make it impervious to early creatures and early counters and i think it has a shot! Great content as always! Hindsight is always 20/20 right? :)

[@HunterCrim4767]

*Correction *Torment of Hailfire* instead of *Tormenting Voice* as alternate finisher.

[@XoIoRouge]

Good comments. I appreciate that you bold the card names. I like the changes you suggested too.

[@T_Peazy]

Hey Seth if you're trying to ramp faster why not run hour of promise? Instead of the enchantment ramp?

[@Vininn126]

Are all these going to be one video now? I personally prefer multi-video, even for against the odds, because it's easier for me to keep track of where I left off, and also I get to watch more of your videos and support that way :D

[@MrScourge42]

Hey Seth, try brewing up an infinite turns deck for standard, using Timestream Navigator, and Perpetual Timepiece.

[@itzmecokie]

This format is fine. Rather than split up the "Thumbs up" count, all racked here instead.. Which is a good thing for a KZbinr I guess. Less loading the whole page too, to watch each match.

[@MrUshiikun]

Deck looked fun, if inconsistent. Love the new 1 video format, though it would be nice if either in the article or links in the description it told you what the opponent played for each match.

[@Vancity3]

Top right hand corner of the video bud...

[@MTGGoldfish]

I was wondering about this. I just put "Match 1" for the timestapms because some people have said they don't like matchups spoiled, but I could easily put "Match 1 vs Grixis Energy" is that's what people want.

[@brewbrewbrewthedeck4138]

Hey, look, it's Sir Scoops-too-early again :

[@gamingtime9716]

Would Banefire be a good substitute for Walking Ballista? I know standard is rotating, but in M19 standard, Banefire is a better combo piece (cheaper, can't be countered) and can act as much needed early removal, but Walking Ballista can contest the board. Which is better?

[@leifellis5148]

Dopest deck I’ve seen since Metalwork colossus deck that storms off Neil Oliver made.

[@JRandCoKG]

I preferred the multi Video Format, that way I could have pick and choose one match, when I did not have the time for one hour Seth Greatness

[@JakobLogan]

JR same

[@kayssj2]

You still can, the matches are timestamped in the description

[@MTGGoldfish]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@JRandCoKG]

KadizKovers well, true. Still, the Multiple Video Idea more appealing to me, I can chose which match Up I want to see. It was especially nice with Energy, where I would skip every single Energy matchup, since it was boring seeing Cubs :D

[@JRandCoKG]

MTGGoldfish well, first Your Welcome. second, thanks for listening. third, are you going to share the overall tenor of the reaction? I think it's quite intriguing how these little changes change the impact and appeal of the videos :)

[@bryantan4228]

Game 2 against GB Constrictor: When sideboarding on the play against aggro, Censor is fine since you use it to hit their first 2 drop. What is not fine is Wayward Swordtooth, which doesn't interact with the board fast enough. At least Scavengers can work like ow quality blockers. Also, when someone Fatal Pushes your Walking Ballista ping them with it.

[@AlmostM]

18:30 You should put gift of paradise on the evolving wilds and it can tap for mana right away (which would allow you to play another Gift of Paradise)

[@Bibbedibabbedibu]

Thats actually a great line. Nets a lot of mana and the thinning is not that relevant in my opinion. Makes evolving wilds an actual untapped land.

[@darkunicorn6669]

Im high but im thinking a champion of wits instead of draw from tommorow for more panharmonicon synergy and one of the lands from ixilan that ramps a bunch, azors gateway maybe although im still not sure if thats a good card or not.

[@jonaszjuszczynski863]

ayyy the deck we were all waiting for

[@mattjones7589]

this deck is so fun to watch

[@Agent29416]

I like the non Spamy one video

[@brewbrewbrewthedeck4138]

I do not :(

[@the_snakelicious]

The spammy videos were the reason I wasn't subscribed to the channel, now I can finally subscribe without having my sub box spammed by unnecessary videos.

[@brewbrewbrewthedeck4138]

Strange reason. It's not like you get notified for every single video of the five to six video playlist (or at least I never did).

[@WesTheGiant]

This deck is sweet! Might be better with like, -3 wayword swordtooth +3 Hour of Devastation though.

[@MTGGoldfish]

Yeah, Swordtooh is the card I want to cut most (followed by Censor). Hour of Devastation, Abrade and Champion of Wits are the cards I want to add most.

[@moongarn5676]

48:35 was a punt. The copy ability on Vizir is a may ability since Scrapheap can't block and you were only after the cast trigger should have let it come in as a 0/0 and die. Still dead to a lightning strike or burn but would have prevented the death from the disintegration. Then play the wilds and have 9 mana for Zacama next turn, which would have let you dig 9 deep to find a bit more lifegain or way to get rid of scrounger until the enter the battlefield trigger resolved.

[@moongarn5676]

Also you had 3 floating mana in game 2 when he went to kill your Zacama. Why not use it to kill something or gain 3 life or tap differently and blow up the harvester?

[@serjrodthebold1140]

Please, play the updated version.

[@MattPlaysRs]

55:00 3 mana floating, could have activated zacama for life or to kill one of their creatures in response to their kill spell

[@TarikBrowne]

Hey Seth, what do you use to generate your decklist in the sidebar?

[@MTGGoldfish]

It's a goldfish tool, although I think there's a similar publicly available overlay out there now.

[@danieldaniels1172]

This deck is magnificent.

[@anxez]

That moment when you could have just played Wayward swordtooth as a 3 drop 5/5 and completely ignored it.

[@nanoclix7435]

Hilarious deck - I love it!

[@jacobdachauer4377]

I am really not a fan of swordtooth. I would think cloudblazer would be a much better card in that spot. That or maybe a sweeper or 2 in the main. But either way, I love the comboing off!

[@jasperschwarz4980]

So super keen for this

[@circeus]

at 50:00 why not ballista + New horizon? You get one extra mana on the board and still get to kill siphoner.

[@MasterVash]

You say to follow the link in the description for the deck tech, but there is no link to the deck tech. I definitely like the old format with multiple videos better.

[@Loqubs]

29:15 probably should have cast new horizons to put 1/1 counter on walking ballista to shoot down instead of paying 4?

[@JamesZeroSix]

15:17 ... Seth, does this deck have any combos?

[@93Nordo]

Has chandra defeat in the sideboard;does not side it in after losing to 2 glorybringers; facepalm aaah seth ♡

[@turnipy88]

Mirage Mirror might be better than Vizier, because it lowers your curve. Sure you have to keep activating its ability, but you’re often not using all your mana until Zacama Time.

[@swolegolisopod7340]

turnipy88 you don't get the zacama untap trigger unless you cast it, hence the viziers

[@turnipy88]

Jordan Albee Oh. I wasn’t even considering using Vizier as a copy of Zacama. That seems a little win-more to me. I guess you’re right. I thought Vizier was just to have a blocker for whatever your opponent’s got.

[@swolegolisopod7340]

turnipy88 it might seem win-more, but if you don't have a panharmonicon then it becomes a 4 mana zacama to net you more mana

[@ToxicallyMasculinelol]

if they had just made zacama's ability like a "split second" ability it would be a legitimately great card. the card is trying to reward you for taking the risk of playing a 9-mana spell, but considering the difficulty of surviving to draw and resolve 9 mana worth of lands and ramp, it's really not worth it unless it either 1) basically always wins if it resolves, or 2) isn't vulnerable to like 2-3 mana removal spells. i like the idea of it untapping your lands, like in some scenarios it's not as good as "protection" or "hexproof" but in other scenarios it's way better. theoretically it could be used to defend zacama, as you might use the untapped lands to counter a spell that removes him. and that might make him, as a 9-drop, still more consistent than an 8-drop, which would be a unique and special quality of the card. it's clearly meant to reward you with versatility, so if you can just turbo ramp to 9 then you don't need to waste card slots on healing or removal since zacama gives you those effects. but it doesn't work out that way because you can't protect it when they can just kill him when his untapping ability is on the stack. all the card needs is a split second effect. not on the creature itself, it should still be vulnerable to counterspells, but i think the effect should have some special text, basically "when you cast zacama, put a separate split-second ability on the stack which reads "untap all lands you control." i don't think it makes the card overpowered personally but there are probably many interactions i haven't thought of

[@sendaran]

I think the main issue here is forcing blue durdling when Zacama is Naya incarnate: huge, raging power. Just playing straight Naya would give you so much more efficient ramp, resilience and interaction. So throw out all blue cards and enchantment ramp, get in Ranging Raptor over Wayward Swordtooth, Ripjaw Raptor, Kinjalli's Caller, Savage Stomp and Thunderherd Migration, probably also some number of Commune with Dinosaurs. Savage Stomp is just everything you need in one card. It's removal, it's ramp with Ranging Raptor, it's card draw with Ripjaw. Raptors give you cards whenever they block or get blocked or burned, so they force your opponent to use non-damaging removal on them, protecting Zacama who doesn't care about measly damage spells. Zacama needs that pre-emptive protection instead of counter backup. And Ballista + raptors is a lot of untapped potential. Prowling Serpopard would be great for sideboard. Some Abrades could find their way in the main, maybe 1-2 Forerunners if Zacama refuses to be drawn. It's not wrong to have win conditions beside Zacama.

[@Demosthenes6666]

That sounds like an amazing shell for a naya midrange or ramp deck. The question is, is that really what you want to be doing if your goal is "storming off" with Zacama?

[@adammoldover8769]

PANHARMONICOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!!!!!!!!!

[@GAVEbirth2NORIS]

Personally I always skipped the deck techs, but I see a lot of peeps who want it back but idk just telling you I exist

[@arcarodrigoarca]

The deck tech is still there...

[@MTGGoldfish]

Thanks for the feedback! Much Abrew is weird since it's based on an Instant Deck Tech, so the big problem is people finding the deck tech, since it isn't part of the video.

[@adammason6343]

Holy crap this deck is great.

[@Nightwing690]

I've never seen someone get so happy playing jank in my life.

[@erikchupela7074]

What about the artifact that let's all players make extra land drops and draw on an empty hand? It would be a totally different build but

[@petefry82]

No wayward sawtooth play? And I agree with some of the other comments with champion of wits over pull

[@MK3SHFT]

okay but who got that deck list from game 1 op?

[@tmanc1998]

how do you not side in chandra defeat against a glorybringer whirler and chandra deck. Terrible sb plans

[@foxyr4bbit]

~26:30, why didn't your opponent unsummon the zacama?

[@KUR04NDT0R0]

Can someone please explain to me what exactly is happening?

[@musicman88881]

Seth... you spent the entire video wishing for Hour of Devastations, questioning what you would do without them, and then proceeding to side them in almost every game. Ever think they might need to be maindeck?? :P Most G ramp style decks really need a way to quell aggro.

[@morecirnothancirno]

It's Much Abrew, the decklists aren't his and aren't changed by him.

[@MTGGoldfish]

Yeah, we talk about this some during the wrap up at the end. My build of the deck would have four Abrade, two Hour of Devastation and four Champion of Wits in the main.

[@musicman88881]

Ah, gotcha. Makes more sense

[@chronatoginfinite]

why are you not playing your cool full art negates that are in like every other deck

[@MTGGoldfish]

I wasn't sure I was going to play the deck. Then I happened to win and it was too late to change anything!

[@minebattle5679]

Is there a budget zacama storm

[@yonex003]

Minebatle567 Minecraft & more could remove Walking Ballista and the dual lands especially Spirebluff.

[@W4llh4k]

PRIMEROOOO, please say :"HOLA PANAMA, SALUDOS PARA YERICK"

[@Repaurcas]

55:05 you can use your mana left over to kill something -.-

[@Shadowrpb]

Why did Zacama NOT get unsummoned at 26:30?

[@LifElisaBeach]

did i just see jungle delver get there?

[@ryanpratt8568]

8:55 why did you not kill their glorybringer????

[@MTGGoldfish]

Can only hit non-Dragons.

[@MattPlaysRs]

It's a dragon, it can only deal the damage to non-dragon creatures

[@Fubnin]

MTGGoldfish Then just dont attack and have 2 glorybringer blockers?

[@TarikBrowne]

So note on the Dino, I have been thinking about it and think it fits really well with explore, and explore might be nice with panharmicon. The extra land you draw, you can now play, so ramp is more reliable. if you go the 0/3 defense critter would maybe help against agrro also... Anyway love the content. Thanks again.

[@imlarge]

was that turn 6 where u managed to storm off?

[@MTGGoldfish]

I think so!