How Many SHRINES Can Go-Shintai of Life's Origin Make in Historic Brawl? | MTG Gameplay

This week we're trying something fun and different for Much Abrew About Nothing, Historic Brawl with one of my favorite new Commanders of the year Go-Shintai of Life's Origin!
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[@MTGGoldfish]

If you're looking for more Shrines I played a version of Go-Shintai of Life's Origin for Commander Clash a few weeks go. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aaC8qpuod6qla7M

[@Omniphage]

im down for historic brawl content.

[@themanly1672]

Love the historic brawl content. If it’s a format you want to play, I’ll probably watch it.

[@brunamelo2381]

P k

[@BrewersKitchen]

Historic Brawl?! You love to see it! 🥳

[@RafaelAAMerlo]

We do love it! Please, make it a regular here :D

[@witchcraft2264]

I would love to see you do historic brawl content too!

[@BrewersKitchen]

@@witchcraft2264 Did that once, but mybe I find a way to sneak in some Historic Brawl again. It's still the format I play the most ☺

[@tonybombay9080]

I literally heard this comment 😂

[@lawtonfriedland1228]

Id love to see you and Seth play some Grindy modern midrange

[@williamscerbo458]

Yeah, historic brawl is an interesting format and it'd be sweet to see more. Definitely not every week but once in a while would be dope

[@zachgray4767]

Hugely underrated format.

[@williamscerbo458]

@@zachgray4767 Yeah fr!!! I only play Explorer instead of Historic because I don't like the digital-only mechanics... but for Historic Brawl, i don't really care. It's a sillier, more casual-feeling format so I say go crazy with the seek, conjure, draft stuff

[@zachgray4767]

@@williamscerbo458 Honestly I prefer playing Highlander in a digital format. It"s way faster to build decks, I don't have to seek out random obscure singles at shops or wait for tcgplayer to ship them, and I can make changes on the fly and try them out in real-time. The last time I played EDH in person, I was so bored.

[@BurakBoraKapan]

Historic Brawl is such a good fit for you Seth. You can do some pretty janky stuff. The big problem I have is that most people scoop before you can do your thing (it's a problem with Arena in general but happens in HB more since it's unranked)

[@SilverWolf340]

Yes, it’s so fucking annoying. I’ll make some crazy funky and janky deck and then the one time I finally get it to start working they concede before I can do anything

[@ryangainey94]

@@SilverWolf340 A big problem too is, there's too much damn control and aggro and competitive metagame stuff in the historic brawl queue despite the fact that it's unranked and not meant for competitive play. Everyone's just trying to kill you as fast or as brutally as possible while all you're trying to do is have fun and send a message... I think some people need to be reminded periodically that magic is a GAME and that the point of playing a game is to have fun with it in your spare time socially. That means making sure the game is fun for both players. Not one person gets to play and the other person doesn't get to do shit. Besides, isn't the win much more satisfying if it felt like you won by an inch rather than by a mile?

[@MegaCoomans]

@@ryangainey94 lots of people just like to win (me included) so that is what i am trying to do in every format.

[@Shive1337]

@@ryangainey94 It's rough. I started out doing the fun stuff in HB, only to get controlled out of my mind. Then at one point I just said "if you can't beat them, join them". All it takes is just a couple of people going full try-hard and tadaa, you have an entire gamemode transforming. That said, they do do some amounts of matchmaking. For instance I meet nothing but Kinnan, Winnota, Tefari and the 5-cost bolas planeswalker when I play with one of my deck. It's like that's literally all there is in that pool of players... so it's not as if they don't do something to keep the over the top decks separate.

[@MetaKaios]

@@ryangainey94 It's because Arena's quests incentivize winning.

[@BobardeZanzibar]

I also strongly support additional historic brawl content. It's actually less intense on wildcards making it great for casual play.

[@lukeisstrange1533]

The blue Go-Shintai that can mill target player is amazing with the commander. With all those effects to bring stuff back from the graveyard, thats just such a good fuel for that. Mill yourself and then get all those enchantments back later EDIT: Also its one of the cheapest shrines available and it can block early threats. All in all, a real underrated shrine. You understand the power of this one after playing that deck for a while

[@ayllipkhieu8659]

Facts. I see people run go shintai against me at my lgs and try to mill me with it and I have to point out it’s better to mill themselves to use their commander’s activated ability

[@lukeisstrange1533]

@@ayllipkhieu8659 Not only the activated ability of Go-Shintai itself but there are a few other mass recurr spells for enchantments, that this selfmill can support a lot

[@ayllipkhieu8659]

@@lukeisstrange1533 exactly. Vastly underrated. Even have the option to not use it. Tho, I can understand that the new shrines aren’t “as good” as the other shrines since you have to pay for them to work but oh well

[@DonovanPresents]

Historic Brawl is one of my go to formats right now on Arena! Loving seeing more of it!

[@zachgray4767]

I almost exclusively play Historic Brawl these days. Explorer is cool but just doesn't scratch the itch as Pioneer, and Historic has kind of been ruined with these hugely busted Alchemy cards and is just a combo format now. Sure, Historic Brawl has the same card pool (actually more), but the high variance of highlander is the great equalizer, and it feels so healthy and varied.

[@enmanuelrondon9700]

What are you talking about. I've been playing historic brawl exclusively as well and I rarely see anyone play an alchemy card (except me).

[@zackestin1368]

what alchemy cards are seeing play in combo decks in historic? dragonstorm and faithless looting are not alchemy cards, just in case you arent aware.

[@Crunchatize_Me_Senpai]

Enjoy it while you can, before it explodes in popularity. The reason it’s so varied is that no one has “solved” it yet. No one’s quite figured out the best, most consistent decks/meta calls and put that information into circulation. This happened to casual EDH when people figured out that durdly decks with strong value engines, good protection from aggressive decks, and few obvious threats tend to run away with the game. It’s still a pretty new format, and hasn’t quite reached high popularity levels, so everyone is still experimenting.

[@pietrociompi5883]

@@Crunchatize_Me_Senpai that's true, but the fact that there's some kind of matchmaking on deck competitiveness. I didn't play it a lot after the update yet, but I played hundreds of games before and the cool thing was that if you try to play some junk you kost likely get paired with another junk deck. If you played pre-nerf Winota and Omnath, or Kinnan or pre-ban Golos you usually see the same 3/4 decks over and over. But I had the most fun playing junky tribal decks against other subpar decks

[@1ryb360]

@@Crunchatize_Me_Senpai I think it's a VERY solved formats. Everyone knows Kinnan is just most busted and it's not even close, then it's followed by things like Teferi, Bolas, Niv, Golos, and Esika/Bridge. Even wizards themselves admit it's solved by putting these commanders in a separate queue. And that's the reason why it feels varied. They basically quarantined the meta and kept the best decks out of the queue to keep it varied lol.

[@milo8425]

I looooooooooove the idea of more brawl. The more popular we can make it the more likely they are to add 4 player functionality.

[@Zosh_]

Sadly Wizards said we'll never have the technology :/

[@Dagg3r89]

@@Zosh_ money has a funny way of making "impossible" things possible.

[@banditkeithkingofduelmonsters]

@@Zosh_ They have had 2 headed giant on mtgo for 20 years.

[@DimT670]

@@Dagg3r89 it really doesn't. You cant re write the code of a strictly two player game to be 4 player just like that no matter how much money you throw at it

[@Zosh_]

@@banditkeithkingofduelmonsters I know. I'm just saying Wizards' word. I would love for it to happen. But they built Arena with the goal to squeeze money, not with future proofing in mind. It would cost them money to try to implement more than 2 players matches and why would Wizards ever spend money to improve their products?

[@Robrono]

I definitely want to see more of these Brawl vidoes, this one was fantastic!

[@bluedog4248]

Historic brawl is literally the only format I play to just try out different commander's. With historic brawl, be careful what you play because it will try to match you against decks that are "same level" so for example, if you play 5c anything, you will see landfall golos or esika good stuff pile, etc. Also alot of Mirrim or Tiamat

[@ShoutaFuwano]

Yeah, my main complaint is the lack of variety in the decks that people play. It can be pretty tiresome to play against the same deck so often.

[@jeremyobriant7266]

There is definitely a meta in Historic Brawl that you don't see so much in true EDH. This is obviously due to the 1v1 nature of the format, as it's much more competitive.

[@AngelusNielson]

You'll always see golos and esika. No matter what you play, that's because nobody wants to play a deck that doesn't have a uber win ratio.

[@AngelusNielson]

@@jeremyobriant7266 LEt's be honest. It's because it's Arena. The anonymity is a huge problem with Arena in general. So many tryhard decks and people who quit the second they think they might possibly lose. (I'm guilty of it too, I simply won't play my helipad deck against certain decks as it's that not fun. I'm looking at you Bolas... Or pretty much every "Plainswalker as a commander" deck out there.

[@ShoutaFuwano]

@@AngelusNielson Yeah, it's just boring playing against 5C piles again and again.

[@SuperMarioPoke]

I love historic brawl ! Would love to see more videos

[@andrewsigrist9981]

The mill shrine is great, you target yourself to give yourself something to reanimate with your commander.

[@Lolasaur0]

Historic brawl has been my go to format since it came to arena, and there isn’t nearly enough content for it. It deserves better and much more attention than what it’s currently getting. Edit: I would greatly enjoy if you became a “brawler.” Weekly content would be a dream

[@wookieesden3133]

Completely agree. I play a version of the budget Vivian brawl deck more than most anything else.

[@elijahpatterson6802]

Historic brawl is the only reason I play arena lol. I'd love too see way more.

[@pr0fess0rbadass]

Me too. But I find myself playing it less and less since alchemy started creeping into the format. Started playing explorer more

[@TheDylls]

A little bit of Brawl sprinkled in would be sweet!

[@InsertCleverNameHere0]

Historic Brawl can be pretty wacky sometimes, I'd love to see more content.

[@Mikemvplayer]

I use Historic brawl to flush out deck ideas before I transition them into paper for commander. Especially with all the new mechanics that keep creeping up. It's a good play test area honestly and I can't recommend it enough for the newer players getting into commander at my LGS. Most newer players aren't even aware of the format, possibly because wizards doesn't promote it enough. Please more brawl content!

[@brendanthornton4754]

Historic Brawl is great! Play more! More variety in decks you play against

[@LK90512]

Yaaay best birthday gift ever :D Btw i really believe historic brawl is the most fun format on arena at the moment, so yeah more of this please!

[@starmanda88]

To answer your question, I’d love to see more historic brawl. I love the format.

[@RIHTZ]

I'd love to see more brawl!

[@coleh9451]

Yay! This is almost exactly the deck I made when anthology came out!

[@Blackflame305]

I love seeing Brawl content. There's such a variety of decks, you get to see a lot of weird fun games that you often don't get in more stable formats

[@Mark.Twain007]

I started playing Historic brawl a couple of weeks ago. It is actually pretty fun. I'd watch some occasional content. There seem to be a lot of cool decks now with some of the new commanders from Anthology and Baulder's gate.

[@wolfboy7277]

All for brawl content. Magic is a game that allows for so much variety so why not have little taste of them all especially while other formats may be a little stale

[@SpecialKail]

I love historic brawl it's pretty much all I play on arena anymore except some of the midweek magics

[@joesantos2455]

If whomever produces the thumbnail art for these videos is wondering if there is @ least one human being on this planet that appreciates their insane level of initiative: I'm happy 2 report that this IS in FACT the case. Ergo: "Props", art producer(s?)...!

[@oscher88]

Thumbs are by Adriano Kitani

[@joesantos2455]

@@oscher88 well then Adrian is great @ what he does.

[@tuckerbelanger6179]

i practically only play historic brawl on arena. would love to see more content like this

[@KrisEganPhotographer]

Agreed. I've actually been paired against this commander so many times that I've included Back to Nature in my deck.

[@z421_]

Yes historic brawl is my favorite format to play right now in arena (I'm a big brawl/commander nerd), would love to see some vids on it every so often!

[@gotchab003]

I've really gotten into Historic Brawl the last couple of months and I LOVE the format. I built from scratch a Shrines deck with Jegantha as the Commander (very different from your version) and I'm very pleased with how it turned out. I actually dislike the addition of Go-Shintai of Life's Origin because nos it's 100% correct to play it instead of more original or whacky commanders. Love the content, Seth!

[@remigyfgrin8830]

yeah, after the anthology dropped it seemed like every other person was playing shrines. I started main decking back to nature because of it, and haven't been playing any of my decks that don't have access to green or white as much

[@christopherlee9026]

Please do Brawl, even if it's just once per month or even every two months, please!

[@zachgray4767]

Opponent spamming "Good Game" and comboing off while Seth doesn't even pay attention and opens Chrome is the highlight of this video.

[@greatyellowpie]

Best content I've seen here for ages. Would love to see more brawl

[@honorableintent]

In a singleton format, I like Bloodbond March for Shadowborn Apostle. You get all of them back for casting a single one.

[@VBane]

Historic Brawl is the only constructed format I play on Arena. Shrines is my favorite deck, but never had a fitting commander til now. (Refuse to use Golos on principle). Go -Shintai coming to Arena was a godsend.

[@christopherlee9026]

Same, love Historic Brawl!

[@jayfish7890]

Would love to see you play more Brawl formats.

[@Saffron-mb8mp]

As an exclusive Hist-Brawl player, i think you should totally make this a semi-regular thing! I love your commander decks, and I think it would be awesome to mix your EDH and Historic deckbuilding skills! The sky's the limit for HB, and I'd love to see your janktacular decks sink or float :) Great vid as always Seth!!

[@honorableintent]

I love Brawl! Glad to see it here.

[@threeletters0734]

I too would also like to see more historic brawl. I think people underestimate how fun it is

[@KomoliRihyoh]

Even once every other week or more would be a GREAT option for historic brawl vids, it's really the only format I play and I love to see how you would brew in it!

[@Richuardo]

Yeah, do more brawl please, that was a lot of fun to watch.

[@arlopaden9794]

more historic brawl would be fun

[@azuraflame1]

Brawl is great need more of It on the channel

[@tjammacedo]

Awesome format. The game is much more unpredictable and has a lot of variety. That beats, completely, the same formats, with the same cards, we are used to play and watch videos of over and over again. If you make more brawl videos, I'll watch them for sure

[@tobiwan604]

Thinking this is one of the most interesting formats, as it is not that repetative as formats, where you can have 4 copies of each card. There you see many plays done in simlar ways every time, where brawl is more random! Looking forward to more of this content. (I have a paper Shrine Commander on my own, so especially this episode has made me hyped)

[@Zosh_]

"So, what do we learn this week about Go-Shin C R Y"

[@chanceknoles9475]

For the love of everything that is Magic, please please please make more historic brawl videos. We want more content of it! Its super fun and there are so many different decks, unfortunately you'll see alot of Golos/Esika decks but when you get the cool brews its always super fun! PLEASE MAKE MORE HISTORIC BRAWL CONTENT!

[@ryusei4k621]

I would like to see you more of this content Seth just very chill video.

[@VBane]

"Not the most fun" sums up every Izzet deck I've ever played against in this format. Its honestly a coin flip on whether I instantly scooping when I see an Izzet commander at this point.

[@naolislight4442]

If I see an extra turn spell i typically just scoop on the spot to avoid the headache.

[@seanclark4071]

I’m fine for some more brawl when you’ve got a cool deck

[@Taveena]

Love Historic Brawl - basically the only format I play (since it's much easier to just get one-ofs than four-ofs, and they don't rotate!) and I'd love to see more content like this!

[@petersteiman2443]

This was really sweet Seth. I would gladly enjoy the occasional brawl video. Weaver of Harmony is a really fun card. It’s really fun doubling up your Hallowed Haunting and Borrowed Time triggers. The most fun thing in Standard with it might be using it with Reflection of Kiki-Jiki. Tap Reflection to copy Weaver and then tap Weaver to copy Reflection’s ability and repeat for however much green mana you have.

[@Henzoid]

I’m so down for more brawl content. Miirymonicon sounds sweeeeet.

[@IndigoRose13]

I'm definitely all for more brawl. Seems like a perfect fit for a connoisseur of cool, janky brewing like yourself.

[@kylejohnson4662]

This is probably the most painful video for me. I am an absolute fan of you Seth, the only reason I subscribe to MTGGoldfish. And I love historic brawl and have been waiting to see you do a little game play of that format. But I feel terrible because my most hated deck ever is shrines. Keep playing your favorites though! Love to watch you have fun!

[@Yig_al_Gaib4242]

Seeing some Historic Brawl every once in a while would be nice, watching this one was a lot of fun.

[@sertaki]

I really was very happy to see Go-Shintai finally pop up on arena. I had Kyodai as a stand-in for my Shrines deck while Go-Shintai was missing ... and wow, that commander really supercharges the deck into bonkers territory. Especially when its ability also randomly works with other enchantments.

[@BoredomInc22]

If you’re curious, the overwhelming splendor was enchanting your opponent and then when the opponent played minimus containment, it falls off since it’s no longer an enchantment and cannot be attached. Then when you remove the containment, overwhelming splendor is an enchantment that is not attached and is put into the graveyard as a state based action. Interesting interaction in that game. :D The short version being, “yes you are correct”

[@Soulus101]

Historic Brawl is pretty much all I play on Arena. Glad you're enjoying it!

[@lumski2516]

Definitely want to see more historic brawl! Depending on your commander, you hit completely different matchups. I have a kinnan deck that almost only gets matched against golos, Nicol Bolas, Teferi and Niv-Mizzet, and a Raggadragga deck that gets matched against everything else. Its a fun format to see what people are building!

[@TomHickey]

Thanks for sharing some historic brawl gameplay. Definitely interested in more.

[@sveltemax3606]

Would love to see some more historic brawl content here and there! Fun stuff

[@joshbaker8767]

This was a fun video! I'm down to see more Historic Brawl content in the future. :)

[@jaydenjones5658]

I would love to see more historic brawl!

[@coreysierchio4650]

I made a Haktos, the Unscarred deck & I absolutely enjoy the random chance of an unblockable/protection from the board creature. (Fails to Toxrill & Elesh Norn.)...Lol Brawl On!

[@ecastello]

Brawl is a fun change of pace, would love to see more.

[@russellholley-hurt2637]

Historic brawl is great. Lots of cool brews and competitive tier decks to explore. I'd love to see more videos.

[@lazercat6077]

As a commander player I would love to see more historic brawl content! Also obligatory missed lethal comment: 40:32 I have a shrine deck in paper and in most cases you don't want to tutor your upkeep shrines unless absolutely necessary since they wont due anything the best ones to get are the green blue and black sanctums the black one in this case would have killed your opponent since you had shrine harmonicon online. Call me out for being annoying if need be but this is what I get for loving my shrine deck ever since I made it.

[@keithmpire]

Historic Brawl is my fav Arena format, I agree with everyone else: More Brawl for sure!

[@ryandillon2080]

Lovin the Brawl Content! Would love to see more. I've been playing it more recently due to the absence of new non-alchemy sets and have been loving it. Hope to see you do some more brawling soon! :)

[@arborealblazer283]

Love seeing historic brawl! It's nice to see formats I never play myself

[@Qalorful]

Totally down to see some historic brawling

[@mcd9468]

I love me some historic brawl indeed

[@thefaithful-flames6765]

I’m happy to see more

[@charlesrosenberg7397]

I'm enjoying the historic brawl content. Please keep it coming!

[@RafaelAAMerlo]

Historic Brawl is fun enough to deserve to appear every week, YES. Don't worry about rules for it, if you are competitive (like I like) you'll end up in Hell Queue, against other high power level commanders. As a competitive player, the experience there is the most enjoying one in digital Magic apart from cEDH in paper ❤

[@BoshiYoshi]

I really want to see more Historic Brawl! Just keep in mind that there IS a Commander/deck weighing system in the format so depending on which Commander you use and what cards you play in your deck, you could end up facing nothing but top tier Commanders and try hard decks.

[@tommygol15br]

Definitely in for any brawl video :)

[@KarmicMishap]

Historic Brawl is great and I would really appreciate if you made some decks to watch and try out.

[@MajraMangetsu]

It's a good video and Go-Shintaï of Life's Origins is a GOOD Commander.

[@BigTonyToes]

I love this! Please more Brawl content!!!

[@ElusiveEnt]

Glad to see historic brawl when you’ve got a sweet deck to play!

[@itsmemesiguess1530]

I'd love to see more historic brawl content, it's fun!

[@jspog88]

I’d love to see brawl videos every now and then!

[@maxhasert8426]

More Brawl would be cool. I also like your best of three stuff too. Thanks Seth!

[@AdelaarGD]

I would love if you uploaded daily historic brawl content, I love this format and it's literally all I play on arena because I only need one of each card

[@brandonmccallum3552]

Love that your making brews on Historic Brawl!

[@crownlessking6436]

Can we take a moment to appreciate the Haiku on Sanctum of Calm Waters?

[@OftenAlwaysFresh]

I love historic brawl. The mundane day to day of modern etc is fine for the "metachasers" but it's fun just to try different stuff out with historic brawl. Keep it up

[@jfrizzell6645]

Yes, more historic brawl videos - twice a month would be great!

[@ctheos69]

Love seeing brawl content from this channel :D keep it coming

[@beeaggro2593]

historic brawl is super fun. It also helps that what you're thinking of, what they do is Wizards kind of tiers up commanders and matches you based on those tiers. So for example, extremely busted commanders like Golos, Nicol Bolas and Kinnan are stuck in their own cedh style top tier while everyone else gets to vibe in another tier

[@IAmebAdger]

Brawl is interesting, I concur.

[@xicarus8141]

I've been playing a lot of historic brawl lately and been having a lot of fun with it!

[@ike2783]

I'd be down to see some Brawl videos every once in a while, I think they're fun!

[@theprogressivecynic2407]

I play a version of this, and Spark Double is a nuts inclusion that you might consider. If you drop it on your commander, it acts as three shrines, and the copy of Go-Shintai stacks with the real one, and so you summon two extra shrines with each shrine you play. And, with the inclusion of the new cards, Historic Brawl feels very much like 1v1 EDH, but with some of the most busted cards removed (eg. Sol Ring), and there is a lot of potential for some great content. Just as long as you avoid the Paradox Engine decks, which are legal for some unfathomable reason because that mistake isn't banned.

[@gamesandguitars354]

My buddy and I play brawl all the time. Please do more of this format

[@PixelEldonAwesomeness]

please more brawl, love playing it and love watching it. plus, it's more budget friendly since you only need one of each card

[@wasted316]

More Brawl content sounds awesome