Oona vs Muldrotha vs Merieke vs Ulrich EDH / CMDR game play for Magic: The Gathering

[@aidennoir597]

Why on earth would you ever play your commander with an active Merekie on board? Seems like there was a lot of wonky threat assessment in this game.

[@jakethewhale]

Every time he says "Durable Handicraft" it sounds like he is saying "Gerbil Handicraft" haha

[@xcver]

One note on Oblivion Sower, you can play all land cards in exile from the player you target. Not only from the 4 you exile with its ability. Since Jason had a sizeable exile pile I was wondering if there were more lands in there. Also Oona looks at the colors of the exiled cards. You sounded like it was happening on creatures

[@kristianschukman979]

I noticed something that you might have missed. If I am not mistaken at 10:22, when the Oblivion Sower gets put into play, not only should Alex get the one land he hit from the Sower trigger, but they should also get the lands Jason exiled from Necropotence earlier as the wording just cares about lands that player owns in exile, not lands exiled by Sower's ETB.

[@Guddon08]

Man, it's games like this which are exactly why I run Homeward Path in my decks with valuable permanents.

[@EM-pn5kq]

I put one in almost every deck I own.

[@michaelwallace4760]

Vedalken Plotter and Shifting Borders would like to have a word with you.

[@Guddon08]

@@michaelwallace4760 At that point I wouldn't even be mad that they have such a specific tech against my specific tech

[@KSE828]

Doesn’t work when a player in your pod mains Memnarch. :(

[@esperderek5383]

Merieke decks are my least favorite type of decks to face against because at best they say "You will never see your Commander on your side of the field" and at worst they're "You can never keep creatures alive". And I tend to favor decks that are either/both Commander centric and/or creature based! Biggest mistake overall was probably allowing the Merieke player to keep a Muldrotha on the field half the game. Probably should have killed the Control Magic with Decimate.

[@esperderek5383]

As a second note, I do find that cards like Clever Impersonator tend to have a sort of informal shroud because people often forget, in the chaos of a Commander game, what exactly that card is copying. That's less of a problem when playing on MTGO but in paper always be aware of who is copying what.

[@BangThatGong]

Seriously such a boring game because of it. I really don’t care if it’s “an element of the game” she is ridiculous obnoxious and the fact that two players were playing two less powerful decks just made it much worse.

[@matiasrochaix2234]

She deserved to win, honestly they made so many misplays that I ended up rooting for her, even though I also don't enjoy facing esper. Why do you cast a Muldrotha into a Merieke? please.

[@leonk9074]

But then you have the control/thief player complain that everyone is ganging up on them while they're just trying to have fun.

[@Noah-tg3vf]

Alex seems like kinda player that I'd target with Prossh first just bc I hate getting my stuff stolen lol

[@SonAlexander]

Alex seemed smart to me. The way to beat Muldrotha, is keep it out of control of the owner. Muldrotha is way to good of a value engine if left unchecked.

[@HavocTheWendigo]

Agreed my cuz has the same deck and he can rarely play it cause me and anyone who know what it does go for his neck first. In my opinion decks like that deserve no mercy from the table

[@SvviftDeath]

@@SonAlexander I played a game against two Muldrotha and I was playing Roon of the Hidden Realm. I did this exact same thing where I played a clone making a copy of muldrotha then on the end step exiled muldrotha so it didn't return until the owners endstep. I kept them with no board state and just returned my own graveyard using their Mesmeric Orb against them and in my favor.

[@Devin-oh7gr]

Playing against a steal stuff deck? Better play my chainer with no way to activate it

[@jsum33]

Lol

[@xakuyer]

No way to activate it, as in not having access to 3 black mana ?

[@Devin-oh7gr]

xakuyer as in jamming it down with not enough to activate on the turn it was played against a deck that has show all it does is steal shit lol

[@zombiesahoy]

3 things. I fully admit I gave him the game by playing Chainer. I completely blanked that it can re-animate from any graveyard. Even experienced EDH players make silly mistakes from time to time.

[@Devin-oh7gr]

Yep just was a funny moment

[@prodigalmadness9758]

Oona ran out Chainer and Oblivion Stone a turn too early on both, being able to drop them but not activate. Just a turn difference would have changed everything.

[@armoric]

Stone didn't matter with the Avacyn in play.

[@Grimm_HD]

Yeah unfortunately this game was poorly navigated by basically everyone except the Merike deck and even he had a couple misplays.

[@tacotastic1069]

you know the scene from the movie Drumline when the guy from the other school plays on his drum and then he punches him in the face? this is how i feel when people play Merieke

[@sasukeds]

I've never thought of mono black Oona bc I always try to splash tribal faeries in a mill type of deck. Jason, ty for opening my eyes to an alternative way to play her! Black ramp into her is insane!

[@Egovinco98]

10:25 Alex coulda gotten atleast 1 more swamp. (exiled 1 or more wirh Necro) Oblivion Sower cares for ALL exiled lands, not only the top four from his own ability.

[@Egovinco98]

correct me if I'm wrong

[@dsadams17]

You're right there. Another fun interaction is Realm Razer, floating mana into an Oblivion Sower to steal everyone's lands.

[@bongobob00]

@@dsadams17 Sadly Sower would only take all of the lands from the player it targets. That one person won't be very happy with you tho. Hahaha

[@ivernedit]

Muldrotha is the deck I have spent the most time and money working on so I’m always glad to see it in action

[@XxMechaxWolfxX]

Important note about oblivion sower, it says any number of lands from exile, meaning not just the top 4. Pretty sure there were more there.

[@MrEvilGrin]

The whole table using all resources to take out the Merieke board, only to rebuild it again and again by playing the wrong cards. Chainer and Muldrotha were the two best cards that deck could have asked for.

[@Kazz1187]

happy to watch again haha, it's always fun to see the power of cards used against their own decks ahhhh

[@VanguardSpammersITofficial]

6:56 not killing the impersonator was the worst mistake of the game, leading to Alex's victory. Huge misplay unfortunately, the video was still good but very one sided

[@thelocustgod9098]

Video still unavailable. KZbin’s fault not yours. It’s happening everywhere

[@JpDubbed]

I didn't have any problems with this one. It works 👌

[@thelocustgod9098]

Justin Wunderlich doesn’t work for everyone unfortunately.

[@thelocustgod9098]

Justin Wunderlich Now it’s working though. Weird.

[@JpDubbed]

@@thelocustgod9098 Hmph..yeah that's weird. KZbin's weird 😂

[@mastergundyr1972]

"J.R draws and passes"

[@nemesist9962]

;-;

[@pennastar]

That decimate wouldn’t of been able to target that Mereki as the swift boots was giving it hexproof!

[@Schlafmangel]

i think JR forgot to discard after turn 2. Since he played a bounce land he had 8 cards in hand at his end step. Or did i miss something?

[@Kazz1187]

Yea, JR should have discarded. Oh well

[@Tjlo1339]

I catch so many people doing this. Its pretty annoying tbh.

[@liamwood2878]

Reasons why I don't run bounce lands but I mean if you skip cleanup they're pretty good

[@nemesist9962]

Good catch! Honest mistake.

[@BangThatGong]

Who cares though honestly he was playing werewolf tribal into 2 very powerful decks.

[@xakuyer]

Will we ever have a How is it, it's *the generic goblin noise* From JLK ?

[@HuttFuzz]

Masterfully played Alex. Your master thought you well 😝

[@Snuske10006]

@MTG Muddstah How did he target Merieke with decimate when she has hexproof? is that the mistake you mentioned?

[@MTGMuddstah]

That was the mistake.

[@nemesist9962]

Correct, I was thinking "Destroying the boots removes the hexproof from Meriki, I'm a genius!"

[@Snuske10006]

@@nemesist9962 i have actually done the same thing with lightning greaves before xD My attempt and higher knowledge was stopped in that game though. apparently it was closer to cheating :D

[@TeaHauss]

9:24 It was at this time that JR discovered the joy of playing Blue, as he "Draw, Go."-'s for the next few turns.

[@hedonology]

You should basically never play Oblivion Stone or Chainer in those contexts. You want the full 8 mana so you don't get blown out hard, as Oona did this game.

[@carbunclegirl]

This video is a good illustration why "I play with your stuff" deck, which is my main deck, is Riku Clone and Fork Tribal, instead of stealing everything.

[@PiroMunkie]

In the beginning when you said "durable handicraft" I swear I heard "gerbil handicraft." I thought there was an entire new subspecies of rodent tribal I had missed in MTG in addition to rats and squirrels.

[@MTGMuddstah]

My wife says it sounds like gerbil handicraft as well. I guess it has a new nickname now!

[@FirekingBarong]

OK, time to watch again ^^

[@TCG9777]

Again??

[@addambarcelos]

lack of graveyard hate really killed the game. merieke didn't even feel the boardwipe and easily recovered. not bad

[@TheHuntersKnife]

“Oooh spooky” -mtgmuddstah 2019

[@kurtgrgelwrx8376]

I'm really confused. Why does the Muldrotha player grave-hate himself by running Eldrazi titans?

[@RealKingLoui]

I run it to have some instant spped options when an enemy tries to graveyard hate me. With Muldrotha i can keep the entomb in hand sometimes and then entomb to save my graveyard from getting exiled. Why he played that in this situation i do not know...

[@kurtgrgelwrx8376]

@@RealKingLoui that's an interesting idea, but it sounds like it's gonna hurt a lot more than it's gonna save you Wouldn't it happen a lot more often that you mill it of something like Stitcher's Supplier? Or does Muldrotha not run repeatable mill cards?

[@darklynch10]

I use them to shuffle my graveyard in in case of gy hate. Instead of mill I use looting effects , and its saved my ass more than once. This guy played like an idiot tho

[@kurtgrgelwrx8376]

@@darklynch10 ah I see, using looters instead seems like a pretty good idea in that case

[@dotpic]

it depends on the group you play with and how heavy graveyard hate is. my group runs a lot of graveyard hate so that quick entomb is pretty clutch and very helpful

[@Punintentionally]

Werewolves getting some representation today!! His PR agent must be better than mine.

[@thatoneguyshawn]

I'm digging Joey's playmat!

[@PaulGaither]

Merieke was my first commander back in late 2007. She always will have a soft spot in my heart. I also love the mono black Oona, though I am surprised that he did not go for Rings of Brighthearth so that he could go infinite with Deserted Temple, then Oona Mill everybody for the win. Are combos banned in your groups? It seemed like the right play line to me.

[@TheMightyBattleSquid]

Why did Joey keep an all land hand???

[@Spidermanfan937]

I’m glad it’s up now !

[@AffinityForCommander]

I do love a good Merieke deck! Nice one Muddstah! 😁

[@zo-zu7158]

But Oblivion Shower allows you to grab all lands the player owns in exile, not just those that were exiled via the effect.

[@KippSa]

around the 10:30 mark I'm pretty sure Oblivion Sower returns ALL lands that are in that players exile pile not just from the 4 he exiles

[@davidliedtke3987]

Little mistake here: bounce land t2 should force J.R. to discard ...

[@Optimator7]

Yup

[@mathesonjohnson9975]

He started the game with 6 cards from a mulligan

[@davidliedtke3987]

Oh, then of course it's fine. Thank you!! (:@@mathesonjohnson9975

[@deidara07]

I would love to see Joey's take on Muldrotha. Any chance we could see a decklist?

[@rorykitchen2727]

Mono black Oona was sweet!

[@sintwelve]

Bounce land turn 2 but no discard? Oh no

[@ss-tl1ic]

I noticed that too lmaoo

[@Moclord]

One of my biggest pet peeves. I always call players out for that

[@nemesist9962]

RIP me, that's what I get for casting my first bounce land ever in this deck ;--;

[@Moclord]

@@nemesist9962 Its all good, now you know haha

[@KT-dq6wv]

At 11:00 when joey popped the pernacious deed, the necromancy should have been destroyed as well! That way alex would have gotten his avacyn back. Auras are enchantments as well, am i right?

[@MTGMuddstah]

Avacyn makes all of his permanents indestructible, which stops the Deed.

[@KT-dq6wv]

@@MTGMuddstah ah indeed! Ty for answer

[@lillyshultz5028]

YES!!!! More Mereike!!!

[@mot6376]

10:28 oblivion sower could cast ANY lands in exile, including the ones exiled before its effect. From what can be seen he could at least cast three more swamps.

[@Pacuvio25]

Sower puts into play all lands exiled, not only those it exiled.

[@michaelellison204]

Did J.R. not discard after his turn 2 bounceland?

[@MCRWV-bk1wf]

Holy... That was one awesome Merieke deck!

[@Armand17011]

J.R brought a sword to a machine gun fight.

[@ryanburks937]

*THIS* is why Homeward Path is great

[@Cole444Train]

Why would you run Ulamog in a muldrotha deck? Seems to me anything that gets rid of your own graveyard is counter productive

[@PlutoDarknight]

You can use it to circumvent other people's graveyard hate by shuffling everything into your deck instead of exiling it to a random Sentinel Totem or Relic of Progenitus or Rest in Peace

[@Cole444Train]

Twisted Fate that... is terrible. Teching an Eldrazi Titan to counter graveyard hate? Plus you still lose your graveyard? Here’s a novel idea. How about counterspells? With those, you don’t need a way to pitch the card for it to work, you keep your graveyard, and you can counter other scary spells! I know, super wild idea, but trust me, it works wonders

[@PlutoDarknight]

@@Cole444Train Except that you need to cast the counterspell in the first place. Ulamog you just need to dunk into the bin and it's not as vulnerable to other counterspells. Also, I rather shuffle my GY back in than losing it to exile effects. On a side note, since Muldrotha allows you to play lands from the GY, you can usually get enough mana to just hard cast Ulamog anyways

[@Cole444Train]

Twisted Fate and enough mana to cast counterspells

[@paintedhorse6880]

12:49 Oh that's a cool card lemme just add that on ManaBox *Sees price* guess I'll die then💁

[@felixdecastro]

10:36, Alex could played the lands exiled before the ob sower

[@jordan8119]

I run Homeward Path in my Muldrotha deck. This will keep your opponents from stealing your commander.

[@johannpohland2826]

I made a deck from the new trostani just because there are so many stealing decks in my meta

[@Avatarbee]

8:30 Those boots look a lot like bracers

[@themasterjoni7667]

At 11:05 the pernicious deed should have killed the necromany too, right?

[@MTGMuddstah]

No. He was in control of Avacyn at that point which gave all of his permanents indestructible.

[@Scalë9221]

Just got a merikie for my r/edh secret santa gift today....pretty stoked. I'm ready for the hate. Piloted a sen triplets for a good while lol

[@TCG9777]

A game with Oona that finally isn't Playing With Power MTG

[@griz276]

This is why you play Siren Stormtamer in Muldrotha decks.

[@zacswift4667]

J.R should have discarded turn 2 had 8 cards since he bounced the land

[@matiasrochaix2234]

Oblivion sower should have taken all of Jason exiled lands :)

[@amethystwyvern]

Alex would’ve been my number 1 target after dropping Bracers and copying Muldrotha.

[@Battleguild]

Oh look a Merieke deck, saw that win a mile away. 😕

[@matiasrochaix2234]

I mean they gave her everything.

[@Scalë9221]

Everyone else had zero patience and shit threat assessment lol

[@jabberwockld4316]

That decimate was casted awfully

[@phyrexian_dude4645]

8:24 This is why you never do deals that are not related to take down a common enemy.

[@andreasorphanou5469]

At 7:18 Alex's commander is not a legal target as it has hexproof from the boots still being equipped

[@MTGMuddstah]

Yup. That's why I said there was a mistake.

[@andreasorphanou5469]

@@MTGMuddstah oh, I was just watching the video... Didn't hear it... My bad bro.

[@MTGMuddstah]

No worries!

[@Sakharee]

Did J. R. discard when he bounced that land in turn 2?

[@rikuniemela3775]

2nd turn of J.R - plays a bounce land and keeping a hand of 7 equals 8 cards in hand. A mistake I hate the most to correct 95% of the time.

[@zyrese]

3:50 for sure thought it was “Gerbil Handiwork”

[@MTGJanktown]

Merieke with illusionist bracers? Why would you cast your commander? 😅😅😅

[@midnightmonty]

Interesting, all they needed to do what find a way to kill chainer at the end there and he would of lost most of his creatures.

[@Arvensa]

All they have to do was kill the Muldrotha clone with Decimate instead of declaring Merieke as an illegal target, so that Alex couldn't just recur the entire boardstate immediately, and then they'd be able to actually play.

[@vengray8055]

sassy

[@dannyzep92]

This was not a fun game to watch in my opinion. Watching JR and his Ulrich deck get pushed off felt bad and he had an uphill battle against what felt like 3 pub-stomp decks. Always thankful for your uploads!

[@BjornEinarr]

Those are, in no way, pubstomb decks. Things got out of hand because of terrible threat assessment, that is all.

[@nemesist9962]

I will get my revenge!

[@Ravynsrage]

That Soldevi Adnate won the like. Pet card :)

[@mauricioguala1119]

Why when trigger prenisious dead don’t destroy altar and necromancery?

[@PizzilicchioAndros]

Shouldn't pernicious deeds destroy necromancy too? 11:02

[@jjjjrrrrmmmm123]

what creature did he use necromancy on?

[@PizzilicchioAndros]

@@jjjjrrrrmmmm123 oooh yes! I see thanks!

[@monkeyman9238]

How do you feel about Sliver Tribal? Should I feel bad about playing it in Commander it is it fine?!

[@willemboele2079]

of course it is.

[@monkeyman9238]

Metalisha do you mean of course it’s fine?

[@MTGMuddstah]

I think it's fine.

[@Devin-oh7gr]

Lol its fine

[@xXCaZaManXx]

Lol my buddy has a Sliver Overlord deck and I just run Riku clone on him. Copy overlord and have more mana then him to take control of his commander then all his slivers.

[@DarkX64]

Can you guys help me out? There was a video where Andrew's commander was targeted down each time it was brought out and he yelled back about it What video was that?

[@MTGMuddstah]

I think it was when Jeff was playing Alesha?

[@JustinSullivanMarketing]

What was it the table missed at 7:15 with decimate?

[@matiasrochaix2234]

you can't target something with hexproof.

[@JustinSullivanMarketing]

@@matiasrochaix2234 yeah but all the other targets were legal

[@thedog7494]

Joey irritates me so hard. The fact he kept on shuffling his graveyard into his deck with his eldrazis for basically little reason other than just because REALLY annoys me..

[@CodemanB2]

yea playing a graveyard deck..."better shuffle my 5 cards back into my deck, I sure wouldn't want to mill out!" /s

[@diegosaez4885]

You have to own some squared up balls to play Ulrich knowing he ain't that good even for Werewolf tribal and has issue holding himself up, yet pulling out the game the best you can, only to genuinly being put down like a rabid dog out of your misery by a Merieke deck.

[@demonicgrub1025]

Am I the only one looking at Alex's board after the death cloud and thinking that he didn't sac all 5 lands?

[@wolfsritter8151]

1. 6 lands,1 rock and he keeps it? 2. Didn't discard after the bounce land. 3. Worst O-stone and chainer plays I've seen in a long time! 4. Why the hell he used that Ulamog for 3-4 cards ? As an Oona player I'm really disappointed in the plays this guy made. Nice to see Ulrich.

[@zuesmusic8591]

JR didn’t discard a card when bouncing his land

[@halophilicnc6473]

Homeward Path. Crop Rotation, expedition map. Problem solved. Especially for a Muldrotha deck.

[@qarsiseer]

Monoblack Oona is soooooooo cool.

[@derekwalter4238]

2:00 if you play a bounce land on turn 2 and you haven't cast any spells yet, you should have 8 cards in hand. He should have discarded down to hand size

[@dharcofuruk9105]

Do you have a list for j.r?

[@nemesist9962]

It is in the video's description! :)

[@dharcofuruk9105]

Beautiful thank you!

[@josephg279]

Alex so casually laid the smackdown

[@gijake521]

Can we get a match of everyone playing voltron generals!?

[@Caludot]

Wouldn't muldrotha clone die to mutilate too ?

[@Cyberium]

I'd love to see a non-tribal Ulrich someday, focus on utilizing politics to have Ulrich fight or buff opponent's creatures when they need it in exchange for gains.

[@vengray8055]

Cyberium Sounds worse than what I saw. Why not play thantis in that case.

[@Cyberium]

Ven Gray Because Thantis and Ulrich play differently. Color wise Ulrich could fit into a Jund deck, but the focus won’t be on him if it’s led by another.

[@ajax4709]

J.R should have discarded on turn two. He played a bounce land, therefore having 8 cards in his hand

[@BoBnfishy]

I thought you were saying "gerbil handicraft"

[@SomaticVision]

J.R. played a Rruul Turf and forgot to discard

[@CeltiesSin]

Thanks for the video as always but man this was gross...

[@safertobeanonymous2224]

Doesn’t use beacon of unrest on an avacyn? Really?? And shouldn’t pernicious dead have killed the necromancy having avacyn die?

[@maximilianoconrads1309]

As a muldrotha player myself, Joey’s deck was very frustrating to watch. You never want to play eldrazi that reshuffle your graveyard and you always mill yourself with the alter of dementia..

[@MystMG]

Classic Muldrotha player keeping a hand with 6 lands and ramp.