Experiment Kraj vs Maraxus vs Emmara vs Chainer EDH / CMDR game play for Magic: The Gathering

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[@allenlarocque6162]

At 13:30, I don't think that Vincent can use inspiring statuary that way - they don't create mana, so can't be 'spent as any colour'....Am I wrong?

[@DarkEinherjar]

That's correct: he can tap artifacts to cut reduce the colorless cost, but colored mana must be paid with actual mana.

[@joshualo8226]

The dt was cast from stolen strategy which I’m think allows to cast with any coloured mana.

[@MTGMuddstah]

It was from the Stolen Strategy, which specifies that he can spend mana as though it were any color.

[@CA-zn8hu]

Improvise doesn't actually generate mana, though so it doesn't work in that way.

[@NMS127]

That's right, he needed actual mana (of any type) for the black symbol. But he had mana to spare and it didn't change the amount of damage Maraxus did.

[@darkywaf]

A lot of Massacre wurm triggers were missed when the arcbond killed everything

[@hiddenleaf414]

darkywaf Massacre Wurm is a MVP in my Yarok deck and everyone always thinks the 2 life loss is only triggered from creatures that die to the ETB.

[@DeltaFiend]

It was nice seeing a Maraxus deck, back when I first became interested in MTG I had a magazine that used his card art and always found it super cool looking despite its simple enough design. Just a big buff guy with a mask and a big knife.

[@Ceracio]

It reminds me of an old MTG video game (that was pretty bad tbh) called Battlegrounds, where Maraxus was the final, and thus most powerful, red hero. (For reference, White was Akroma, Green was Multani, Blue was Arcanis, and Black was Ihsan's Shade, of all things) I find it funny how Akroma and Arcanis were (and are) quite powerful and famous cards, but the other three (except possibly Multani, because Dominaria) are relatively weak and hardly known. I mean, Ihsan was in M25, but he's not exactly good, though I suppose he might have been when he was first printed.

[@Tryo707]

@@Ceracio By chance did you ever play Shandalar?

[@Ceracio]

@@Tryo707 This is the first I've heard of it. Funny that it was produced by Sid Meier. In any case, no, I didn't get the chance to play it, I'm too young really, I was 1 when it came out.

[@Tryo707]

@@Ceracio Well if you like old slower computer games you can find it for free very easily. Or watch someone play on YT.

[@wigglytuffgaming]

​@@CeracioI'll clap you any day at Mtg Battlegrounds.

[@rentonnoah7961]

Another great video, I never believe Maraxus would get that big but he quickly dominated with that Commander damage. Now, I have something new to build

[@WIBYTIEDH]

These videos with unorthodox and unpopular commanders are awesome. There needs to be more of these to this extent

[@aarong2606]

Incubation "sage" into inspiring "sanctuary" oof...good game though haha

[@cdmusic850]

I love seeing chainer gameplay, he is my favorite deck to play Also R.I.P. Gary

[@middknight5202]

I'm a simple man, I see my love Emmara The Honda Accord and I friggin click!!!!

[@AffinityForCommander]

Maraxus looks like a really fun deck! I love seeing old school commanders do well against the new legends! 😄

[@ctheos69]

That Maraxus was great to watch! Mono red Voltron is pretty underrated, one of my friends has a pretty powerful Ashling Deck and it's scary to play against haha

[@gangstakoala9964]

lea leroy I’m surprised no one decided to get rid of the card that gave his shit improvise

[@TheGeekZeek]

It seems like Romain missed a lot of triggers from Huatli's emblem.

[@leudyrodriguez2488]

Someone else already said this but it bears repeating: Effects that last "until this card leaves the field" don't happen when the owner dies. That player and their cards cease to exist from that point on, and their cards don't exist to create triggers that would return something that was exiled (for example)

[@steveebeejodd]

While we're all nitpicking on stuff, if a player dies and had something of yours in exile, like Oblivion Ring or even a Flickerwisp effect, you don't get it back. Ever. It's their effect that would return it, but they're out of the game so their effects don't exist anymore.

[@magnusmagicus1977]

A bit late reply, but this is not true for all these effects. It is true for Oblivion Ring, which has a separate triggered ability that is not going on the stack because the player left the game, but that is not how Conclave Tribunal works. It will just return the exiled card to the battlefield the same moment it leaves.

[@SidneyGutteridge]

So cool that you guys are in Montreal! Represent

[@aidennoir597]

I highly recommend Vorel of the Hull Clade as a Simic +1/+1 counter commander. I've had my deck for a couple months now and it might be my favorite deck. People tend to underestimate Vorel in my experience, so he tends to stick to the board and quickly gets out of hand. Going from a single counter to 60 over a couple turns is not unheard of, and there's nothing better than doing that to a Fathom Mage.

[@Kazz1187]

Aiden Noir I was thinking the exact same thing for my kraj deck!

[@flarenite1004]

0:01 Don't worry Jerry I'd love to hear a colorless goblin noise

[@Lucarioguild7]

Flarenite100 *Jerry, he’s one of the spike feeders

[@flarenite1004]

@@Lucarioguild7 ahhh ayt thanks for telling ill edit it

[@DarkEinherjar]

Whenever I draw so many lands like Muddstah did, it makes me wish I had Retrace cards in my deck...

[@WondeR871]

Dear MTG Muddstah. All i want for Christmas this year is a video(or more) of Pir and Toothy,. For some reason, no one who uploades videos include these two brilliant commanders. So please, make my wish come true! And thank you for a great show!😉👍

[@MTGMuddstah]

I've got a game recorded with them. I will try to get it done by August.

[@GrundysGames]

Funny that I am in the process of building a Kraj deck :)

[@lracseroom8286]

Good luck with it. I wanted to build one since I love Mairsil the Pretender so much but he's just...hard to pull off. Getting the counters onto creatures with actually useful abilities is a feat in itself. And if he get's removed a few times he becomes uncastable. I played Momir Vig to try to fix the creatures with relevant abilities problem and...it's just a Momir Hackball deck now. I DID end up making Simic counters though. I crossed it with Landfall synergies and have Tatyova at the helm. It works surprisingly well.

[@marcusforrest3172]

Don’t comment often but just gotta say I love your content so much, very well produced!

[@MTGMuddstah]

Thank you!

[@gysahlgemuse7208]

Cool, mono red :) Unusual commander. Might be fun build around that.

[@rosavanopheusden5211]

It was a really fun game, but there were quite a few misplays: -Vincent used his Inspiring Statuary for colored mana with Stolen Strategy -Vincent could have taken Sam out after casting All is Dust as Haunted Cloak gives haste -Sam missed a few Massacre Wurm triggers, though they didn't matter in the end -Romain missed the Huatli emblem triggers on his soldier tokens

[@samb123078]

My very first commander deck was an experiment kjar deck. That thing went infinite in the strangest ways using other people’s creatures. Eventually I just stopped because it wasn’t fun.

[@Foxribble19]

Incubation druid not sage but awesome content

[@DerLhurgoyf]

you missed the Massacre Wurm trigger at 8:50. It triggers on any creature dying, not just from its ability.

[@MTGMuddstah]

Ah dang! That was probably a narration flub on my part. Thanks for pointing it out.

[@AlexOvTheAbyss]

I didn't think Smuggler's Copter was too OP, but back before it was banned, I was playing Rakdos aggro and typically had them dead by turn 3 or 4.

[@jerrelmorales4052]

I want to see some krav and regna decks 😍😍😍😍

[@kaszael]

At 6:27, I believe Mystic Snake shouldn't have been able to block Emmara, due to Sidar Kondo. Not sure what that would have changed in the game but Jiang Yanggu should have died there and then :p

[@Rabid_Wombat]

My GF says you sound like an A.I but she's sure that you're a "very nice person" 😂

[@MTGMuddstah]

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[@patrickbuerke1390]

@@MTGMuddstah You said "WU"?

[@zoltanwolfe1260]

@@patrickbuerke1390 WUUUUUUUUU

[@REON-pw5ze]

11:52 nice weed dice man!

[@Googleflax]

Was Romain not drawing off the Huatli emblem trigger? It says "Whenever a creature enters the battlefield under your control", meaning they don't need to be cast, and it includes tokens, but it seemed like he never drew from it despite creating tokens with Emmara while he had the emblem.

[@ivernedit]

Would love to see a shadow born deck and I love KRAJ, Keep up the good work

[@jeanmarais337]

The video quality was super good. A bit dissapointed in your Kraj build...and how you played it. But nice to see some of the newer cards in it.

[@MTGMuddstah]

Yea, Kraj has performed poorly the last few times I've played him. It could be how I built him, but I'm really not enjoying the list.

[@romaincegoni5109]

Always fun to play with you Muddstah! It was an incredible game with that Maraxus threatening our life total ! Ahah keep up the great work and content!

[@gallowglass3339]

Hey Romain, what is your playmat name and where can I get it (I'm a new player and love it )?

[@urawhat]

So close to 50k subs 😮😮😮😎 nice game play 😁😁😁

[@simonlebon2406]

Grand Prix Montréal playmat 🔥 Good game!

[@itschachie]

I don't think the Cloak would be returned to the field when Romain dies. Conclave Tribunal does leave the field, but it can't put the delayed trigger onto the stack that would return the Cloak. EDIT: I'm wrong, see below!

[@jjjjjjj238]

This is correct. I was looking for this before I said it myself.

[@MTGMuddstah]

Oh! Good to know. We weren't sure on the ruling and just kind of ran with that.

[@dndmasterJDY]

Actually that is incorrect. With effects like Oblivion Ring that trigger on leaving the battlefield, the trigger wouldn't go off, but because of the newer wording, the effect keeping the Cloak in exile would cease to exist when Romain dies, and it would return to the field.

[@jjjjjjj238]

​@@dndmasterJDY After researching, I am wrong and you are indeed correct. It is not on the official rulings for this particular card, but I found one with similar effect on Angel of Sanctions "In a multiplayer game, if Angel of Sanctions’s owner leaves the game, the exiled card will return to the battlefield. Because the one-shot effect that returns the card isn’t an ability that goes on the stack, it won’t cease to exist along with the leaving player’s spells and abilities on the stack." To paraphrase Einstein: "Learning only ceases with death."

[@itschachie]

@@dndmasterJDY Good to know! It's definitely a tricky situation.

[@Cyberium]

EDH focuses so much on enters-battlefield-effect, they should add more creatures with powerful activation abilities, so KRAJ MAY RULE THE MULTIVERSE.

[@Cole444Train]

Okay, Romain looted soooo many times with the Smuggler’s Kopter and still didn’t hit a land. I had to check the deck list, cause that’s some seemingly crazy bad luck. Only 34 lands. That explains it. Also I guess the deck is pretty low to the ground, so it makes sense.

[@kroseu762]

couldnt romain have killed maraxus the turn before he himself died by tapping it down with glare of subdual?

[@metalvisionsongcontest7055]

I'm pretty sure Adam from Friday Nights would love Maraxus. Why? "Because he is a big burly boy!" 😂

[@MTGMuddstah]

I love Adam!

[@acdvfb]

Why not Adapt Kraj before Incubation Druid was knocked out? I know you can't adapt once Inc Druid has a counter on it but does the ability actually go away or is it stopped?

[@MarvelOfRain]

The turn where Vince played the Demonic tutor lost him the game. If I see it correctly and the Skullclamp is in fact equipped (in then moves away from the commander later in the turn from some reason) - he starts with a20 damage (7+7 from lands, 1 creature + 4 artifacts + 1 for Skullclamp). If he just used his Lost Vale to tutor (finding the Valakut and playing it if that was what he tutored for) he loses 1 power but gains 1 from Valakut and they uses the remaining 1 mana to play Romain's clamp leaving him with exactly 21 points of Commander damage. With Sam dead, he could have easily killed the other two players. Of course, it is much easier to see that for me without 3 people looking at me (I am also not sure what he had in his hand and what he tutored for, that might change the play). Maraxus seems like really cool and hard to play well commander.

[@DarkEinherjar]

Valakut enters the battlefield tapped, so it adds nothing to Maraxus's power.

[@MarvelOfRain]

@@DarkEinherjar You forgot about Blackblade. It adds 1. A mountain or another untapped land would add 2 and it would be another way to win.

[@TheBalogna7]

Man, I love Chainer as a commander!

[@ThaChedda]

1:10 game starts

[@DarkEinherjar]

Inspiring Statuary was the card that kept Vince in the game.

[@Baektas]

Its so good in equipment decks, especially mono red. Such good ramp.

[@kleedrac]

I reworked my Ex Kraj deck as well - it's now Pir/Toothy which I find far more fun :)

[@MTGMuddstah]

I may do the same. Either that or build one of the new C19 commanders when they drop.

[@hafusan]

@@MTGMuddstah Toothy is a blast and Pir a very good boy. I can recommend giving them a try!

[@bestregards9672]

the position of vinces deck/graveyard triggers me

[@lancer4224130]

You could say Mudstah's deck Kraj 'd and burned.....

[@BangThatGong]

That maraxus deck was hilarious

[@addambarcelos]

massacre wurm making great work. cool game

[@TCG9777]

MARAXUS YAAAAAAAS

[@K3rm1tFr0g]

I actually built maraxus as my second edh deck. It was fun while it lasted but got blown out soooo often.

[@Baektas]

You could try changing it to a Valduk deck. I currently have one, and the cards that vince played reminded me of it.

[@plain6677]

Great game!

[@arbopajur1888]

experiment kraj nice

[@mikes252]

i have an Emmara deck, won last night swinging x20 25/25 lifelinks at my opponents

[@dillpickle694]

Am I the only one who knows there’s a Jiang Yanngu planeswalker that isnt from war of the spark

[@tristownsproductions7472]

The 0/2 token can't crew the copter.

[@MultiTaz333]

Kraj is a great commander of used correctly

[@garrett1433]

Glare might be a wanna be Opposition, but it's still one hell of an enchantment

[@Tryo707]

"Valakut" ... that was odd, and funny.

[@Rocjhead118]

My boi chainer!!! Sam, keep it up!

[@joshharper9487]

Emmara the queen of crewing and the husband is King Macar the king of crewing

[@MutilatedBunny]

Was gonna be mad if the Chainer player lost to creature decks

[@thijsvisscher7231]

The plant tokens can't crew the copter, oopsie! Edit: and I need to check the entire boardstate, oopsie!

[@nohwonatol8248]

Heliods spear gives them +1/+1

[@thijsvisscher7231]

@@nohwonatol8248 Now that, is super relevant! Totally missed that, thanks.

[@DarkEinherjar]

I was about to say the same when I first saw it, but then I remembered that Heliod's Spear gave them +1/+1.

[@kennethtristan1644]

Beefy boi

[@joshuakloppers5024]

#stopthejerryhate

[@dannyboy5531]

Over 10$/ 10$ or more... why both?!?

[@CephScience]

I prefer Lu Bu over Maraxus

[@lazaruscomplexofficial]

Honestly maraxus surprised me big time

[@MTGMuddstah]

Me too! But nowadays when Vincent pulls out a deck with a weird commander, I know I'm in for a treat!

[@lazaruscomplexofficial]

@@MTGMuddstah I hope i can set something up with you sometime you are in Jersey again myself and my buddy Dan have some fun decks

[@mikegibb5082]

#teamjerry

[@luigi2.021]

KrAj Is BaCk

[@guiga985]

Heeey :D

[@julianhugen8760]

Your voice appear that you are kinda depressed. What's wrong dude?

[@MTGMuddstah]

I think you must be hearing the lingering elements of my cold. I'm all good, other than that, my guy!

[@julianhugen8760]

@@MTGMuddstah Good to know. Hey, changing the subject. I notice that in your videos is not very clear when triggers happens. The guys of Playing with Power use a simple flash image of the card is triggering in they videos. Check it out, it can be a nice improve in your videos too.

[@BAAWAKnight]

Doesn't like infect, but likes voltron.......

[@Serberus08]

Boring Chainer loop, Boo

[@strahlungsopfer]

Just call him Venison already if you can't pronounce his name lol. I'm sorry, I probably should eat something against my grumpyness

[@MTGMuddstah]

I don't follow?

[@kaszael]

he was pronouncing "Vincent" correctly (the french way)