Roon vs Rowan | Will vs Rhys vs Brago EDH / CMDR game play for Magic: The Gathering

[@willemboele2079]

pat is a monster

[@-KillaWatt-]

Completely uncivilized.

[@DragonicDude]

I love pat, made me laugh

[@PerfectPencil]

it hurts to look at.

[@neminem233]

He betrayed us. BETRAYED US!! to the INFERIOR CARD GAME its al good thought

[@greatbrandini3967]

I like to listen to the games while I'm working/driving. I was so confused at the hatred for Pat until I got home and looked at the board

[@Mtglilypads]

Lol the disapointment in your voice when he plays a land

[@jbell3662]

That pat and will deck was so cool with the switching of power and toughness. Very unique

[@Ianoxen]

This is one of the most interactive and intense games posted here. As always, great content!

[@Kazz1187]

Those pauses with the ... “Islands,” and “Mountains,” ended me haha

[@DarkEinherjar]

Yeah, huge Sigil of the Empty Throne misplay... it only triggers when enchantments are cast; flickering them does nothing, so Don got way more angel tokens than he was supposed to.

[@MTGMuddstah]

It was an honest mistake. He recently added it to the deck. Thankfully I don't think it would have changed much.

[@Erspel]

Pat is a genius and a visionary, he predicted Theros Nyx basic lands

[@vinnythewebsurfer]

Such wisdom

[@LaserfaceJones]

That Will/Rowan title card slice is terrifying.

[@DarkEinherjar]

Lost in a Labyrinth + Crookclaw... most convoluted way to kill a creature ever. :P But it's okay, that Deadeye + Venser lock was sick and had to be undone.

[@animeexpresscon]

Sure, but he had the mana to simply flicker venser in response and cause the trigger to fizzle. I'm not sure if Marcus was trying to play politics by letting it die or if it was a play mistake...

[@armoric]

@@animeexpresscon "In response to the soulbond trigger"

[@DarkEinherjar]

Here's the thing: Soulbond itself is a triggered ability, which means it has to go to the stack and resolve before both creatures are granted its benefits. When Venser flickers, Soulbond triggers again and needs to resolve before Venser can be flickered again. Pat responded to the Soulbond trigger by killing Venser, at which point he didn't have the flicker ability and was defenseless. This is the biggest risk of using Deadeye Navigator: a well-timed instant-speed removal can always put an end to his shenanigans.

[@animeexpresscon]

@@DarkEinherjar Ahh, that makes sense. I forgot that they both have to be paired for either of them to get the ability, so instant speed removal will always stop those shenanigans.

[@apock2474]

I knew someone who would give a creature Flying and then plummet it in mono-green

[@AffinityForCommander]

What a lovely early present! Hope everyone had a fantastic Christmas! 🎅

[@muzunomi]

Was Pat giving everyone the evil eye to not get killed early on?

[@rocknrolla7288]

i mean, think about it. would you want to attack into the madman playing pokemon energy as lands??

[@andrewsparkes8829]

@@rocknrolla7288 Well, as we all know, Energy isn't nearly as busted in EDH ;-)

[@emdub9679]

Pokemon energy for lands, very novel!

[@Kadinata]

How would that work? Island -> Water Mountain -> Fire Forest -> Grass Swamp -> Darkness Plains -> ??? Wastes -> ???

[@gonzaloolivera1954]

@@Kadinata Plains Normal Energy and Wastes maybe Steel?

[@oatmealbro6977]

@@Kadinata My friend uses Pokemon energies for his decks pretty casually. He uses electric energy for plains lol.

[@Kazz1187]

I was baffled the first time I saw it too ahah

[@pietromasneri2872]

never tought of that, but is very clever, in particular for a izzet deck

[@addambarcelos]

dude, can't stop laughing at muddstah confused with the pokemon energy cards xD

[@Cole444Train]

addam barcelos confused? He was joking

[@addambarcelos]

@@Cole444Train I know, but the way he sounded made him look confused

[@thelocustgod9098]

God I was having flashbacks from that Venser lock he had going.

[@nicolbolas5934]

well hello my supplicant

[@Macattack1023]

Hey I was the roon player, it was a ton of fun playing with those guys! Pats deck was pretty crazy, I kinda just had to laugh at how he managed to kill my venser. All in all it was a lot of fun I probably could have still pulled the game out but like muddstah had said the game was long and tbh I’d had enough degenerate fun and wanted to get going to I made that deal with Rhys, I just needed pat to die before me to be happy lol.

[@SteveBuscemi615]

@@La21981x There is a soulbond trigger you can respond too before the flicker is enabled.

[@stevenguitink5947]

Pat uses Pokemon Lands on Muddstah. It was Super Effective! ....I'll show myself out. ;P

[@MarvelOfRain]

I know I am one month too late but Will with all the stats switching is really cool idea. Have seen him mostly as a superfriends general because of the second ability.

[@prizum217]

1.) Glad to see another Roon player from Pennsylvania. 2.) I'm definitely taking some notes on that deck. I never of using Venser to bounce problem lands. 3.) Another dimension to using Roon can be including Auramancer to recur Enchantments, which I only discovered recently at my local LCS.

[@spidey2a]

when you actually look at all the ways to abuse roon its gets to be not as fun/annoying for opponents so beware of being the main target

[@Starsoulklr]

i wasn't sure why you would use the Kenrith Siblings as commanders before but using that invert effects on creatures Will weakened was a pretty sweet interaction.

[@armoric]

Fwiw they're used in duel commander (mainly Will, Rowan is there for the colours and sometimes a wipe against aggro/go-wide decks), as Will's abilities work very well for a control deck.

[@DarkEinherjar]

I saw a Will & Rowan proliferate + superfriends deck once... it was scary.

[@zvieoercane7093]

That soul warden was doing some serious work.

[@SJamesGill88]

I run soul warden and essence warden in a Rhys big x spell token deck and it can get really nutty

[@DarkEinherjar]

That Deadeye + Venser lock... it's similar to the Deadeye + Mystic Snake lock I've pulled off a few times. I always feel a little dirty when I do it. :P

[@marceloquejinho]

That kenrith siblings deck is dope, I loved the switching Power and thoughness shenanigans

[@Punintentionally]

Pat's basics were awesome! And I loved the interesting take on Izzet control. Consider me inspired.

[@-KillaWatt-]

Merry Christmas and thanks for all the great content this year.

[@DarkEinherjar]

For all current and future comments asking why Pat was able to cast instants despite Teferi being on the battlefield: People, pay attention to the plays: Pat used Will's +2 ability targeting Teferi, which turned him into a 0/3 creature WITH NO ABILITIES! That means everyone was free to cast their instants until Pat's next turn. Also, another question that was asked a few times: Urza's Ruinous Blast CAN'T HIT LANDS, and Dryad Arbor IS A LAND. And it was Don who cast the Blast, and he had Daxos on the field.

[@Eliarbreton]

What an interactive game, this has to be one of the best

[@pinholeopinho]

Could you start putting the total time that the games took to end? That would be a nice information. Loving the channel...binge watching since monday.

[@thewrongperson676]

For all that Pat is a monster, the mechanics of his deck were very entertaining.

[@thelocustgod9098]

And the Brago player flickering his enchantments shouldn’t give him more angels since Sigil is a cast trigger?

[@Steamboat2016]

THANK YOU

[@nicolbolas5934]

agreed

[@nickciuica7033]

“Don gains 1” is probably the most used phrase in the video.

[@PhazonOmega]

Does Pat use Zubat for Vampiric Tutor?

[@NULLxFORxNONE]

Yo Pat's deck was really cool. It's always really neat to see commander decks using really weird cards that no one usually uses like inside out and roilmage's trick.

[@DarkEinherjar]

Yay, a game at Christmas Eve. BEST GIFT EVER!

[@yarrrthekraken]

IIRC, that isn't how switching PT works because layers are weird. The switch happens in a layer below (above?) the power reduction, meaning the power stays 0, but the toughness would become the original power, not the 0 power.

[@temotoes9182]

I love that when I search mtg muddstah Pokemon cards this video pops up first

[@DLselduto]

Lol. I use a double normal energy card as a sol rings in one of my decks.

[@jeanalves1304]

Nice

[@benjaminmedley4359]

Love the disappointment in your voice when Pat played his land/energy haha

[@exhibitnine]

Misplays by Pat at @12:34. Teferi prevents instant speed spells. Sorcery speed only.

[@drvinylscratch1936]

It was cool to see the two bounce decks not play stax.

[@federicobaraldi2785]

THIS WAS FANTASTIC absolute royal rumble

[@Marionettetc]

Merry canadian holidays Muddy! No land shaming at Xmas time!

[@regalight9763]

wow i can't believe pat got his hands on the theros beyond death lands a year early!

[@emptyspace2741]

Tefferi makes everything sorcery speed. SORCERY!!!!!! Stay awesome muddstah.

[@jonathand8480]

I love how every time pat plays a land you hesitate to say it

[@stephan5574]

Pat's "lands" show how important artwork is.

[@superwill1238]

1:26 AHAHAHAHA YEEEEEEES

[@josephwalker2543]

I have a mizzix deck that I use Alakazam for the commander. Because "smart" I'm totally jacking Pat's idea ❤️

[@Lucarioguild7]

I think using them as lands is a bit much but I do use Pokémon energy for floating mana which is very useful, I really like Pat’s twisted image deck very interesting

[@callow16]

Merry xmas muddstah

[@tryzydrate]

You're videos are always awesome!

[@mikemoyer8162]

That was a very fun game from you guys. Thank you for all the content. I can't decide whether the pokemon cards was absolutely horrible or brilliant; maybe both. Either way im confused and it makes me angry 0.o

[@MTGMuddstah]

I agree.

[@shammerHammer]

I like'm. Nice change.

[@tribalkai]

"Pat plays... a Mountain..."

[@ArmadilloAl]

Pat plays a...."Mountain"...

[@PhazonOmega]

Pat, what have you done? Now, I HAVE to use my old Pokemon cards as lands and proxies!

[@Tony-qx8oz]

Lol the disgust at the Pokémon energy lol

[@09Dragonite]

Pat is a beautiful human and I love that decklist

[@TheREALGalamineGary]

I have a deck similar to Pat’s, except it’s red/green and all my forests and mountains are the YuGiOh cards Forest and Mountain, respectively.

[@peacechan4500]

You monster

[@furonet138]

How do you account for the fact that YGO cards are smaller? Double sleeving?

[@TheREALGalamineGary]

furonet138 I don’t lol. It’s harder to tell the difference than you’d think.

[@scottmorin7948]

The confusion at pokemon energy is just so perfect

[@saevin7th]

Seeing the pokemon energy now that we have the nyx lands is kinda funny

[@RockMeRiven]

Where do you guys play primarily?

[@lerbyn]

I love the idea of using pokemon energy as lands

[@edenlee5944]

Pat reminds me of a friend who uses Pokemon energy cards as basic lands 😄

[@yeahdudelikewoah]

How was Pat able to play Urza's Ruinous Blast at 8:05 if he did not control legendary creature/planeswalker?

[@DarkEinherjar]

It was Don who cast it, and he had Daxos. Pat doesn't even have white in his deck. Yeah, I have no idea why he dropped the card on Pat's side of the table. Probably an "IN YOUR FACE" gesture to Marcus.

[@giraffetownfan8810]

Merry Christmas everyone

[@amethystwyvern]

MTGMuddstah I know you play at the flip side in Clifton park occasionally, so when you're driving by exit 17 South Glens Falls you should stop at Cooper's Cave Games and Paintball, best store in the northeast NY by a country mile. The owner knows the owner of flip side, pretty sure they used to work together. There's a big edh community and I could get you three players in a heartbeat.

[@MTGMuddstah]

I actually don't play at Flipside, but I've been to their location often when driving up to Montreal. I live in New Jersey. Thank you for the cool suggestion though! I'll keep it in mind if I'm back in that area.

[@boneheadcycler1412]

Man, that shade thrown at the end about typical decks! Also, this video made me wonder if "Don" is pronounced as Dawn or Dahn.

[@BTGamenight]

The truth is Muddstah didn't stop Pat for one reason....because he knew Pat wanted to be very best......like no one ever was!! xD Merry Christmas everyone!!!

[@faerie7dragon]

And a year later, we do have "energy" lands, Pat will be pleased.

[@thelocustgod9098]

How exactly was Pat casting all of those instants while Teferi was in play btw?

[@DarkEinherjar]

Will turned Teferi into a 0/3 with no abilities.

[@NaviTheMD]

@@DarkEinherjar Read teferi, u can only cast spells as sorcery speed

[@DarkEinherjar]

@@NaviTheMD what part of "no abilities" did you not understand? Read Will's +2 ability, which Pat used on Teferi during his previous turn.

[@Sykdude]

150,000 different versions of basic lands. White-boarder, black, full-art, limited editions, foils and misprints. But nooo you gotta use cards from a different game! Great game!

[@jacobyspurnger8488]

I really don't see the difference between these and unglued or alt art or even zendikar full art lands.

[@MrEliakimRAS]

@@jacobyspurnger8488 I see - basic energy doesn't have that awesome MTG art lol

[@azurnooki]

Pat predicted the future of lands !!!

[@bryankoenig9985]

I love Ryan's black lotus play mat I really want one

[@kobensutherland6652]

How can I join you guys? Nice game btw

[@MTGMuddstah]

If you're in New Jersey, message me on Facebook and we can figurr it out.

[@kobensutherland6652]

Sorry no chance. Damn that sucks. You all are great! Keep on going then 😊

[@DETHofMAN]

“Sorry for putting you through that” speaking about the only unique deck out of the 4. I say kudos to the guy who played a partner Plainswalkers deck against the two best bounce/control commanders and probably second best (IMO) token creator commander. All playing white control to some degree. Pat is the reason edh is fun.

[@AidanWR]

Huh, that's funny, I have a Psychic energy card in one of my decks. Although it is a proxy for Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth because a friend sent me a copy, but it never arrived

[@TCG9777]

I'm sure the question has been answered but can you play P.Energy cards for lands??

[@MTGMuddstah]

No. I believe they aren't the same size as Magic cards. I let Pat use them in this game because I'm a glutton for punishment.

[@beffuscleetus9999]

Can someone tell me what Pokémon set those lands are in?

[@Supsup516]

MERI XMAS MUDDSTAH

[@emdub9679]

Merry Christmas!!

[@K3rm1tFr0g]

The thumbnail is top quality

[@jonassumann3033]

Merry Christmas @ all. 🤩

[@sammysammyson]

Pat would really appreciate the THB lands...

[@dillpickle694]

Imagine one episode is 8 commanders that are all partner but none from battle bond so you you just see 8 pictures and it’s harder to tell who is partnered with who

[@shenronsgoldfish]

marcus is my spirit animal no mercy on bouncing lands

[@whyvolunteer6710]

Venser and deadeye are insane together.

[@DarkEinherjar]

Deadeye makes anything with ETB/LTB triggers insane, really.

[@nealtheNightmare]

What’s the problem with alters?

[@apock2474]

Loved the izzet deck.

[@bostonblubasaur6096]

Damn pat predicted the theros lands

[@JustinSullivanMarketing]

Wait was pat able to cast all those instants with Teferi out? I thought that would effectively neuter that.

[@MTGMuddstah]

Will's ability also removes any abilities on the creature he targets, so Teferi will still be on the board, but doesn't force opponents to cast at Sorcery speed.

[@JustinSullivanMarketing]

@@MTGMuddstah oh okay thanks

[@pierre-carldemers9705]

How can Pat uses instants if Marcus has Teferi on the field at 12:33

[@DarkEinherjar]

Pat used Will's +2 to turn Teferi into a 0/3 with no abilities.

[@xivxiyan]

I love pat's lands :O

[@ryanduffy45]

Why do you get all monotone when it comes to Pat's turn?

[@DarkEinherjar]

Because playing Pokémon energy cards instead of actual MTG basic land cards is blasphemous.

[@ryanduffy45]

@@DarkEinherjar oh, shit. Ha I agree. I didn't even notice

[@pkphantom]

You can hear him rolling his eyes when he calls an energy card from Pokemon an "island" 😣🤣

[@termolus665]

Hey,you should do a double feature with competitive decks

[@Ivansports95]

dang this was some high level stuff

[@Jeramiahstool]

I can hear the air quotes

[@CheessusRiced]

I'm still confused as to how Pat was able to cast the ruinous blast

[@checkdisoutO9]

couldn't he have blinked venser again to have that not happen? at 7:59

[@DarkEinherjar]

The soulbond trigger was on the stack, so Venser didn't have the flicker ability yet.

[@Strakneus]

That Izzet deck pure madness so thumps up for the flavor! Its the Izzet way.

[@bouncin13]

Why was Venser hit by the Urza's Ruinous Blast?

[@DarkEinherjar]

Venser was killed by Lost in a Labyrinth + Crookclaw before the Blast was cast.

[@bouncin13]

@@DarkEinherjar thank you. I was wracking my brain like I knew I missed something

[@Franco....]

Great game