New swamp trails: Pioneer wont get stuck! 5 Talons

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[@anonw3829]

Just got a new Pioneer...Thanks for the fun!

[@brentkohn]

I love how it’s all Honda lol we have two pioneers and I’m probably gonna get a new talon as well

[@506SXS]

Pioneers are awesome rigs

[@MarshallMims]

Great video as always man! I gotta get the my Pioneer down there soon!

[@m286538c]

You go where I normally go

[@rogeliogonzalez8855]

which is the better for the mud pioneer or talon and which

[@squirreljumper120]

Do they have more drag than the pioneer?

[@nathangriffin9893]

All your buddies that bought talons because all your build videos are now wanting pioneers lmao

[@MudPuppyOffroad]

Most people still prefer the t a l o n it looks better and it rides smoother at higher speeds and the seats are much more comfortable

[@Draggeezy]

I want both lol have talon have had p500 want a p1000

[@outdoortexan114]

How is the new 2022 dash/screen holding uo to the water?

[@MudPuppyOffroad]

My p1k dash still works

[@timarnett3548]

Man I need to go back out to hollow paw

[@chrisj5.0]

Debating between a pioneer 520 or spending the extra and getting a talon 1000r. P5 will be on portals the day i get it and both will be on 33” aztexs. Mostly sloppy mud. Opinions?

[@MudPuppyOffroad]

You really couldn't pick two more different machines. I don't even know where to start with that. The little Pioneer has essentially no suspension and is very three wheel drive. The Talon has great power but is about three and a half wheel drive LOL

[@Draggeezy]

Talon all the way!! P500 is great on 50” trails but talon is just way way way more fun and comfortable and not as slow or clunky sounding

[@raymonddurkin]

What cell phone mount do you have?

[@MudPuppyOffroad]

Ram mount

[@tyleradams6002]

I love the rev limiter sounds of the pioneer...smh poor poor pioneer

[@MudPuppyOffroad]

Hehe me too

[@senditted7078]

Whats the setup please?

[@MudPuppyOffroad]

How am I supposed to know what side by side you're talking about man there's a bunch in this video

[@clayrobbirds5361]

I don’t understand why you haven’t just built a Honda 300 with custom control arms and went irs in the rear and then stretched it and put some portals and a tranny reduction. And run some 47-54 bkts yet.

[@MudPuppyOffroad]

It's a pretty simple reason that's not the right platform to do that with. The Rubicon has more power better gearing options and a front locking differential from the factory. Also I don't really build stupid big stuff like that because I don't just drive from one mud hole to the next I also have to cover a lot of ground and do trails

[@amberartibee6162]

My name is Shane and I now a lot of shanes

[@rcjg24]

Looks like I'd have been stuck all day. Lmao. Thanks for not being the lets spend 2k on a stereo to play bad music guy as well.

[@ptgtdcr]

Pioneer just as good in mud as talon?

[@MudPuppyOffroad]

Very loaded. Question depends on about a million factors. Pioneer has front locker but talon has more suspension, articulation and more power and clears larger tire stock. But that's just the start of the conversation

[@ptgtdcr]

@MudPuppyOffroad with same size tires which does better in say hollowpaw? Doing water hole crossings? Does talons edge over pioneer matter?

[@MudPuppyOffroad]

@@ptgtdcr Holopaw is easy off-roading both do well

[@ptgtdcr]

@MudPuppyOffroad okay I'm about to get a 2024 1000-5 Pioneer I think... just wanted to make sure I wasn't leaving myself open to a disappointment on the trails/ mud holes from what I can tell you lose top speed performance which I'm not really looking and some comfort, I just need to keep up with everyone else... with the pioneer I would gain a front Locker and extra storage room at the cost of comfort and speed... about right? Any other draw backs I should take into account? Do you have any buyer remorse after swapping to pioneer from talon?

[@MudPuppyOffroad]

@@ptgtdcr I wouldn't buy a five-seater. Back seats are trash. Get a six-seater

[@supatrucka8695]

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