Should We Debate Quranists? | Mufti Abu Layth

Mufti Abu Layth talks about his views on debating Quranists

[@adnandizdarevic6989]

“When it is said to them: “Follow what Allah has sent down.” They say: “Nay! We shall follow what we found our fathers following.” (Would they do that!) even though their fathers did not understand anything nor were they guided.”

[@greengalaxy8873]

If anyone is blindly following the living Sunnah or Hadith without any critical thought then your quote applies. But MALM is neither rejecting them all nor accepting any of it which contradicts the Quran. The Sunnah and Hadith are optional add-ons mainly for behavioral practices.

[@adnandizdarevic6989]

@@greengalaxy8873 please provide us some examples

[@shukriyusof2104]

@@عبدالواحد-ذ3ر I see it now... your mufti has refuted the flying horse through the heavens... so, you are cool with that. But, what about the fairy-tale of haggling over the perfect number of times a sectarian must go down on all fours with the forehead firmly pressed to the ground to worship their God? Where did that come from then? salam.

[@clarejones2421]

@@عبدالواحد-ذ3ر to be fair Mufti gave his opinion On that

[@greengalaxy8873]

@@adnandizdarevic6989 , follow my comments with Shukri Yusof in the thread started by KL.

[@dbz24]

The faith should be based SOLELY on the Quran ONLY. No, Hadiths, no Tafsirs...non of that. Quran ONLY.

[@jeangatti9384]

It would be a good starting point 👍

[@believe-in-righteousness]

If you follow the Qur'an with pure heart you will go paradise according to Qur'an. If you follow other sects then Allah knows will He have mercy on you or not

[@jeangatti9384]

Islam is certainly not the only path to God ... there are many other ways to find God ... Islam has not received a God's monopoly ... believing this is incredibly arrogant

[@hassanabdur-rahman1559]

As a Muslim who only follows the Quran, I agree with Muft Abu Layth.

[@hassanabdur-rahman1559]

I follow the Quran alone. However, I pray the 5 ritual prayers, fast during the month of Ramadan and I also pray Jummah with the Sunnis on Fridays. I also pray tarawih during Ramadan. I try to unite with all Muslims, whether they are Sunnis, Shias and Sufis and ect.

[@rarebreed748]

So your a follower then! Qur'an is enough for me

[@diamoxd1151]

So how are you Quran alone then?

[@hassanabdur-rahman1559]

@@diamoxd1151 because I only take religious authority from the Quran.

[@crazymovierecaps6276]

​@@hassanabdur-rahman1559So how you pray, because that's not mentioned in the Quran. How do you fast? Infact how do you know which month is Ramadan? Quran says we should fast ramdhan but what is ramdhan? which month does it fall upon?

[@hassanabdur-rahman1559]

@@crazymovierecaps6276 did you even read my earlier post? More importantly, my prayers are between Allah subhanahu watala and me. You are not the gatekeeper of Islam. Worry about yourself, like I need to worry about myself.

[@farhanniloy7552]

I am a Quranite. but really like the wisdom and humor of.mufti abu layth. The thing is some quranists are not that qualified to answer.

[@gregoriysharapov1936]

The problem of "Quranists" is that we do not have a proper central community. We are all scattered. This is unlike the Sunni/Shias where they have whole Ulama and scholars and so on. They've got consensus and so on. And yes, some Muslims give answers which contradict the Qur'an. This applies for Quranists and traditionalists.

[@Aesieda]

@@gregoriysharapov1936 That's not a problem, because the Qur'an realizes that people will have differing views and opinions, which is normal. This is expected and furthermore, we are instructed to essentially hear all sides before coming to conclusions.

[@sam_mirza]

@@gregoriysharapov1936 if you bring in the clergy they will do the same again - divide people into Sects by pointing out the slightest difference in understanding. And they will start building their own Sect followers who dislike the OTHER. Be careful of the Clergy 🙏

[@TeymurKhan571]

@@gregoriysharapov1936 Clergy’s will ruin everything

[@gregoriysharapov1936]

@@Aesieda I'm a year late, but what I mean is that it'd be good to at least have some level documentation of beliefs. I understand what you are saying, I just believe it might be good to have some level of proper representation. Otherwise all of us will just get beat down over and over again.

[@gregoriysharapov1936]

I have not watched the video yet, but I wanted to share my thoughts beforehand. 1. Allah has instructed the believers to follow only the Qur'an as a source of religious guidance. There is no ambiguity. 2. Allah instructed Prophet Muhammad to only follow what was revealed to him. If he tried to introduce anything false in God's name, then he would have received a painful punishment. Read 69:44-47. 3. Whether a Hadith is sahih or da'if is mute from a Qur'anic perspective, because at the end of the day, the Qur'an has the final say. It doesn't matter if a Hadith is true or not. It does not take away from the fact that the Qur'an is the final criterion. What the Qur'an (or its philosophy) has to say matters more. 4. The Qur'an should be used as a filter and not a sledgehammer. Granted, in the Hadith corpus there is some level truth in it, and it is a very interesting historical source. But we do not need to remove everything non-Qur'anic. For example, it is a popular tradition to do takbiratul ihram for prayer. It is not from the Qur'an, but it is not exactly a tradition that contradicts the Qur'an in any way. Whereas in Hajj, there are some additional details or limitations that were not sanctioned by the Qur'an. For example, limiting yourself to 7 circuits and thus forcing you to concentrate on the number of rounds instead of magnifying God. Thus, this LIMITATION can be filtered out. Obviously you can do 7 if you want. But this "limitation" can be filtered out. 5. Ultimately, the Qur'an is crystal clear-ly from the Prophet. We do not need a single isnad to know the Qur'an is from God and passed down from the Prophet. Look at the Hadith corpus. They are meant for explaining the Qur'an, but wait! There's more literature after that explaining the Hadith! This can be solved if we simply looked at the Qur'an first and foremost and stuck with it till the end. A lot of incorrect interpretations and false beliefs have come out of all of the traditional tafsir. There's just too many examples. Death for apostasy, stoning to death for zina, beating your wife when in reality the verse speaks about separating... 6. There must be more rigorous study of the Qur'an among people. The problem about how to do prayer if we don't have Hadith details can easily be solved if we just realised that this was Qur'anic silence - allowing for flexibility. The general Sunni prayer that has reached us today does not contradict the Qur'an. It has all the compulsory steps. The things which are not compulsory need not be removed. Like I said, the Qur'an must be used as a filter, not a sledgehammer. They can be kept, or changed up for your own individual prayer. For a fuller explanation, please read this article: quransmessage.com/articles/prayer%20without%20hadith%20FM3.htm I can sense that people will not be very contented with what I say. Please do not reply if you have nothing better to say. What I say is based on the Qur'anic position, and most cogent to the best of my knowledge. Edited slightly for clarity.

[@thebookwithnotitle7687]

Hello I agree with you and have read the linked article. I can say this if something is not in a text it is therefore not in there for a reason. There is no prey in the Quran and that's something all the so called Quranist fail to understand. A ritual prey is not mentioned because it should not be practiced. Check my channel for more. thanks

[@kareemayoub2595]

agree with what you have to say, the sledgehammer vs filter analogy was effective

[@gregoriysharapov1936]

@@thebookwithnotitle7687 I am 9 months late, but I do believe that ritual prayer is a thing. You may view further into the prayer section or the Q&A section in that site. I do not find it convincing from a practical, linguistically or theological perspective that Salah does not exist.

[@gregoriysharapov1936]

@@kareemayoub2595 Excellent, great to see people properly read what I say.

[@thebookwithnotitle7687]

@@gregoriysharapov1936 Follow your instincts. If 'pray' is you taking to God, instincts is God talking to you

[@juadwhite1391]

Hey Mufti, you deserve at least 100k subscribers 💙

[@alfianbanjaransari4096]

He deserve millions of subscribers.

[@icysaracen3054]

I had a theory that if the Muslims had conquered Europe, instead of the protestant reformation, you would have had a quraynist reformation.

[@bie-p1l]

lol why

[@icysaracen3054]

@@bie-p1l Because Europeans are individualist and liberals. Euro Muslims would have broken off from the Caliphates of North Africa and Mid East and form their own emirate which would lead to secular enlightenment.

[@Guyfrommars-pt2vp]

​@@icysaracen3054 there are certain rulings in the Quran but their details is in the hadiths

[@lets_wrapitup]

@@Guyfrommars-pt2vpsays who

[@arbenm5326]

The beauty of the Quran is that it tells us all kinds of examples, like the example of Moses in 2:51 when he left his people for 40 night to receive his commandments, and guess what ? When Moses returned his people went back to worshipping the calf. In other words they went back to their forefathers traditions. Imagine, it Only took 40 nights for Mose's people to go back their old/invented days even though he was still living amongst his people. I suppose Prophet Muhammad a.s was slightly more successfully in this aspect. It took little longer after the Prophets passing for Islam to be diluted with pagan rituals and other Hadiths that Prophet himself forbade to write while he was alive, according to their own Hadith Book. So I believe Prophet Muhammad was Quran Only through and through, and this is evident in the Quran. Contamplate on 6:112-115 and stay on the right path 6:151-153 after your supplication in 1:6. And lastly Quran is the best Hadith 39:23, so 45:6 "These are God's revelations that We recite to you with truth. SO, IN WHICH HADITH, after God and His revelations, do they believ" Peace to all

[@shukriyusof2104]

Mind you, I do agree with some of the things you wrote, however... ... interestingly enough, you wrote... "The beauty of the Quran is that it tells us all kinds of examples..." Is that all it is to you? Just "all kinds of examples?" Aren't you supposed to "learn" from those examples? in other words, aren't there lessons to be learned from all those examples? After all, the Quran describes itself as a Book of Wisdom... and what is wisdom if not learning from past examples? If your opinion that "The beauty of the Quran is that it tells us all kinds of examples" were true... then it would describe itself as a Book of History, no? But, it does NOT, does it? There is another thing that you wrote which I would have dearly liked to explore... "I suppose Prophet Muhammad a.s was slightly more successfully in this aspect. It took little longer after the Prophets passing for Islam to be diluted with pagan rituals... " How do you know it took a little longer than 40 nights? Have you read the Quran and come across verses such as these... 16:63 By Allah! We have surely sent messengers to communities before you ˹O Prophet˺, but Satan made their misdeeds appealing to them. So he is their patron today, and they will suffer a painful punishment. 17:77 ˹This has been˺ Our way with the messengers We sent before you. And you will never find any change in Our way. But that would take too long to explain... salam.

[@arbenm5326]

@@shukriyusof2104 Peace brother. I think we are into Semantics here. Read some attributes of the Quran and explaining of every example: : 2:185, 16:89, 12:111, 17:12, 25:33, 39:23, 12:1-3, 6:38, 17:89 The question is why all the above and the answer is 6:55. True there is nothing in the Quran to say whether it took longer than 40 nights or years. But I can definitely say that in 25:30 Prophet Muhammad will say that my people have taken this Quran as abandoned. HE didn't say that while still alive.

[@garyhambat4135]

I think we have to distinguish Muhammad s.a.w as a rasool/messenger/apostle and his role as a nabiy/prophet. As a rasool he relates to the Qur'an strictly, whereas as a nabiy he continued in the Torah tradition or earlier nabiyoon and was the seal of the tradition of prohethood. The question is, how do you place the so-called hadith in the scheme of things?

[@thetruthandthebestexplanat6686]

The Prophet was the first Quranist, and guess what?…he submitted to the following ayat: 45:6 These are the messages/ayats of Allah, which We recite to you with truth. In what announcement/hadith will they then believe/trust in after Allah and His signs? This verse conclusively ends any debate regarding following sunnah/hadith along with the Quran for guidance.

[@The-Benjamin-786]

The very next verse 45:7 says woe to every sinful liar

[@Gandaogo]

​@@The-Benjamin-786so those who are attributing lies to the Prophet must take note

[@The-Benjamin-786]

@@Gandaogo yes, I agree 45:6 conclusively ends any debate that the hadith or anything in addition to the Quran was divinely inspired or mandatory in Islam, anyone who makes divine and mandatory what God has not made mandatory or divine or even or even or even ordained is potentially guilty of idolatry, In the Quran it seems God is most displeased with those who make divine what God has not made divine

[@Tony-jj9zb]

Quran, 34:44, We did not give them any other books to study, nor did we send to them before you another warner. [End]

[@mazm4860]

It is He who has sent among the unlettered a Messenger from themselves, reciting to them His verses and purifying them and teaching them the Book and (wisdom), and although they were before in clear error...Quran(62:2) Wisdom from Muhammad is also needed to purify you.

[@DistortedEmpath]

​@mazm4860 but all muhammad pbuh taught is the Quran he didn't generate 3 million hadiths

[@fatimaxo4885]

The word Quranist is used in such a derogatory way by hadith advocates … it’s saddening that the book of Allah is treated so dismissively because it is ‘incomplete without the hadith’ according to them. The ones that also reject the living sunnah are equally pathetic. I really admire your sound and balanced approach MALM.

[@006969697]

Dont think of anyone as pathetic. U dont knw how they view the world. No matter what anyone believes..u have to show empathy. We are all searching for the truth. Some use telescopes and some microscopes. In the end we are all looking for the same divine in our own way. As Shakespeare once said..there is no right or wrong ..but thinking makes it so.

[@shukriyusof2104]

@fatima xo Before you start labeling all those who do not agree with you as "pathetic" , would it be too much to ask for you to teach us the difference between "hadith" and what you called "living Sunnah?" ( at least, your own made-up definition of a "living Sunnah") salam.

[@shukriyusof2104]

@@copiousfootnotes So, by your definition, the word "pathetic" is "a bit sad?" And, when someone says "pathetic" , by your definition, she is appealing for balance, and not looking down at that person? Really???!!! Must be a wonderful life being you, right? You get to re-define every word to suit your narrative! Ahhh, yes... the earthly reward for believing in the Bukhari's & Muslim's et al collection of hearsays. May your Allah reward you for your beliefs. Salam.

[@fatimaxo4885]

@@shukriyusof2104 if you’re calling it my made up definition of living sunnah I can already see you’re not here to talk, just argue. And I’m not here to entertain anybody’s ego… bye

[@fatimaxo4885]

@The Sufficient Qur'an me? I’m in no position to cherry-pick I’m learning myself. I’ve always been in conflict with certain hadiths and only recently have I discovered that even scholars are on the fence about this subject… I’m exploring the best route that I understand to be best and as I mentioned earlier, malm has a balanced approach and I find that to be right for me. If that’s cherry picking I can’t say you’re right or wrong, nobody knows what’s Gods plan is for us, we can only try our best. At the end of the day everyone is cherry picking to some extent…

[@AMAZIGHIA93]

In islam it's haram to invent new practices. People who believe, follow, and do this practices who are not from ALLAH but made up by humans are not muslims and they are in the wrong path. So no it is not ok if they follow and practice it. They invented their own religion who have nothing to do with islam, prophets, quran and ALLAH. Surah Aaraaf 37 Who is more unjust than one who invent a lie against ALLAH or rejects Aayahs? Surah Ankabut 68 And who does more wrong than who invent a lie against ALLAH or reject the Truth when it reaches them? Is there not a home in Hell for those who reject Faith? Surah Saff 7 Who doth greater wrong than one who invent falsehood against ALLAH even as he is being invited to Islam? And ALLAH guide not those who do wrong. 6 Surah Anaam 138 And they say that such and such cattle and crops are taboo and none should eat of them except those whom so they say We wish; further there are cattle forbidden to yoke or burden and cattle on which (at slaughter) the name of ALLAH is not pronounced; inventions against ALLAH name! Soon will requite them for their inventions. 139 They say: "What is in the wombs of such and such cattle is specially reserved (for food) for our men and forbidden to our women; but if it is still-born then all have shares therein. For their (false) attribution (of superstitions to ALLAH): ALLAH will soon punish them: ALLAH is full of Wisdom and Knowledge. 142 Of the cattle are some for burden and some for meat. Eat what ALLAH provided for you and follow not the footsteps of the Shaytaan: for he is to you an avowed enemy.

[@alsamilisteningtherapy5736]

Well said...I think the same...if I stand on only the Qur'an on the day of judgement I with out a doubt believe that my king would love me for that 🤍

[@ceyhunmetin]

How about Edip Yuksel? You had great interview with him several years ago. Why not to invite him once again for a peaceful debate? He has been challenging anyone who believes in hadiths for debate. God knows better but you seem like you are a honest man. I think you could be a great host. Perhaps you can arrange a debate between a well informed sunni imam and Edip. This kind of debates are always beneficial for viewers to learn and understand the religion better insallah. Peace be with you all.

[@clarejones2421]

He was on Mufti’s MindTrap last year I’m sure

[@flyinglegion5697]

A year ago, it was a year ago

[@hassanabdur-rahman1559]

Brother Edip is a bit opinionated. He has some good points, but he is kind of extreme and dogmatic.

[@sajidhossain4418]

JazakALLAH Khairun, Mufti. By the grace of our ALLAH, I have been benefitted a lot through your talks. May our ALLAH keep showering blessings upon you and your family & enable you to do more good work for the sake of our ALLAH. Much appreciation to the other speaker as well for sharing his thoughts. May our ALLAH keep showering blessings upon him & his family & enable him to do more good work for the sake of our ALLAH. Ameen. May our ALLAH, our Rabb grant us HIS immense love & make us successful in this world as well as next. Ameen.

[@yunogasai7283]

im min 6 and im already impressed by what mufti said. I totally see myself in that position. That the hadith didnt reach us yet i dont doubt the prophet and his teachings. Its like the bible for me its really hard to accept certain things,

[@alexhill5079]

At this point, I think of it this way. I'm not an 'alim, Allah knows best, but this is just how I think about the relationship between Qur'an and Sunnah at the present time: The Qur'an is a beautiful painting. It is perfect as it is. No one should feel any attempt to add or subtract anything from it, not to conceal nor obfuscate any part of it. It would be beautiful and perfect whether it were locked in a storage room somewhere and nobody saw it or whether it was on display in the best possible lighting. However, we as viewers need a gallery to view it in. The painting does not need a gallery- the artist has already constructed a perfect work- but we as viewers do. Museum guides, art books and a gallery help us appreciate the perfect work. Can they make mistakes? Yes. Might be move some of the furniture and lights in the gallery? Sure. Can there be illegitimate museum guides? Yes. But the painting is still perfect as is. Allahu alim. May Allah guide me and the Mufti and everyone who reads this. If I got anything right in this rant, alhamdulillah- only the mistakes are mine.

[@Junior-yt6cx]

The Quran is Complete, fully detailed, and not missing anything: “The word of your Lord is complete, in truth and justice.” (Quran 6:115) “Shall I seek other than God as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this fully detailed book?” (Quran 6:114) “…We did not leave anything out of this book…” (Quran 6:38) “… We have revealed to you this book to provide explanations for everything, and guidance, and mercy, and good news….” (Quran 16:89)

[@UmarSOQ45e]

I follow Quran alone. I want nothing to do with Hadiths

[@JayKhwaja]

You're Lost

[@Jijfr-vw4us]

@@JayKhwajado explain? hadiths lead to idolatry

[@JayKhwaja]

@Jijfr-vw4us No, they don't, GO FIGURE!!!!!!!

[@UmarSOQ45e]

@@JayKhwaja we will find out on that day. Billions of you hadith followers vs probably a few million of us Quran alone followers.

[@JayKhwaja]

@@UmarSOQ45e You don't Believe in Judgement Day anyway

[@The-Benjamin-786]

Abu is very articulate and pleasant tbf

[@outsidebox7678]

A quranist is someone who self identifies as a quranist. It's not for us to label others. Anyways amazing stuff from mufti, found myself smiling because what he is saying about salah was passed down through living tradition is what I've been trying to tell people for years and I couldn't explain properly until now.

[@outsidebox7678]

@Sanas only Allah knows who is going to hell. End of story. As in terms of the way Shia and sunni pray in the video mufti tells you Shia pray with their hands by their sides and so do a lot of malikis who are sunni. Mufti also informs us in a video that Shia appear to pray three times a day but they are combining dhur and asr then magrib and isha so technically it's five salah like sunni's pray. I'm interested in why you think Shia pray so different, can you provide clarity?

[@WLWLWLW]

Surah Al-Hajj (22:78): "And strive for Allah with the striving due to Him. He has chosen you and has not placed upon you in the religion any difficulty. [It is] the religion of your father, Abraham. Allah named you 'Muslims' before [in former scriptures] and in this [revelation] that the Messenger may be a witness over you and you may be witnesses over the people."

[@shukriyusof2104]

Could the mufti please explain who/what is a Quranist? And, in the scheme of things, who/what is a Muslim? Thank you for your time and effort. salam.

[@moucheali3911]

Why does anybody with some knowledge always want to call thenselves something Whats wrong with MUSLIM Once you follow Quran and some traditions that make sense to you and you feel positively that should be enough bro

[@faisalabdelkarim6457]

If you follow Hadith or anything other than the Quran you will reach different results and split into different groups and sects. Hadiths are not preserved by Allah, that's why we people were able to fabricate.

[@Dawahdude0]

Without hadiths, you can not find details about Istinjah

[@flyinglegion5697]

Without Hadiths, you also can not find how to use a spoon.

[@flyinglegion5697]

If you need Hadith to learn how to do istinjah, then you lack common sense, besides, that's not what Hadith is actually for.

[@Aesieda]

Without hadith, we wouldn't know how to breathe.

[@0808phoenix]

Without Hadeeth you cannot find how to put a fly into your cup of water... How nasty:)))))

[@lets_wrapitup]

Without Hadith, you won’t know how to remove the dust off your shoulders

[@dradeelaliimplantsurgeon6499]

An amazing response Mufti. May Allah thAllah bless you and your family always

[@shukriyusof2104]

I do agree, at around the 7min:09sec of the video, MALM said... "the 5 prayers, for example, is not a corruption..." Yes... it is NOT a corruption... BUT... ... an invention! or, as some commenters here wrote... "any living Sunnah or a hadith narration can be followed as an Add-On practice..." while in the next instance claimed that the Quran is complete! fancy that... it is complete but it still needs some add-on!!! ... to make it INcomplete, perhaps? Pure INVENTION! salam.

[@picklesticks2318]

Invention? The prophet prayed 5 times a day and so did his companions even after he died?

[@shukriyusof2104]

@@picklesticks2318 where did you get this information from? is this written somewhere in the verses of the quran? however, the same bad practices were done by the people of the scriptures and we are warned about this in Surah At-Tawbah, Ayah 31 They have taken their rabbis and monks as well as the Messiah, son of Mary, as lords besides Allah, even though they were commanded to serve none but One God. There is no god except Him. Glorified is He above what they associate ˹with Him˺! salam.

[@Aesieda]

@@picklesticks2318 According to the hadith the prophet also did many horrible things, yet you reject those things and accept what pleases you.

[@shirazlodhi836]

mashallah iam a united muslim i love all but not wahabis

[@imranmustafa5038]

Lol you barelvi brothers call any1 u don't agree with a wahabi 😂

[@untoldstories001]

Very interesting dialogue, and i really like the way mufti has dissected the matter but @ minute 1, the person with the glasses said it, and quranist is a modern term used by hadith followers, so technically all the companions were also quranist, now a BIG QUESTION, Allah speaks about Abraham A.S in the quran that he was a Hanifa, and Allah also refers to something called Milla-e-Ibraheem, if i'm not wrong, so what hadith was Abraham A.S following? a humble question to u all, logically ponder upon it.

[@abdellatifaitbihi1774]

how do u explain the ten readings of coran and which one is correct according to coran? None calls himself a mufti and happens to be a Mufti

[@richlisola1]

Or you could just lose the debate and hate the Quranist’s guts

[@faisalabdelkarim6457]

I read Hadith when I was very young, in the nineties, when I compared it to the Quran, I found huge problems you can't just patch it, some me Hadith need to be thrown away. They go against the Quran.

[@baqirgill07]

Mufti when ur coming to pakistan

[@nycnow811]

Why do our brown people insist on picking up a white liberal accent

[@HatiKeseorangan]

Human never ending create fabrication, this is how humanity get different language, how languange evolve? Through fabrication 😂 and islam have sunnish shia wahabi salafi sufi and more is because of fabrication 😂... fabrication come from culture, political or any strom that can hit their ego... 😂

[@0Suth]

In my perspective some of the reported Hadith is truthful, some of it is false. Everyone pretty much agrees on this, however I don't feel that the truthful ahadith can be reasoned from the false- beyond a reasonable doubt. It is similar to the Bible, some of it has been well preserved and other parts, not so much. Both the Hadith and the Bible can give us an understanding by which we may contextualise the Revelation of the Quran, but they themselves cannot be trusted to be the actual words of Muhammad (PBUH) beyond a reasonable doubt, and thus cannot be a source of legal ruling. Is this position what you call 'Quranism'?

[@G_1allah]

They are way more extreme then that

[@TheQuranExplainsItself]

That’s precisely it we’re only against calling it a revelation and claiming certainty that is it the prophets words.

[@TheQuranExplainsItself]

@@G_1allah why are you lying so comfortably?

[@G_1allah]

@@TheQuranExplainsItself was that sarcasm

[@TheQuranExplainsItself]

@@G_1allah who’s more extreme than what this post says?

[@Nagasyari]

Dear wellness center.. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD keep your camera still... Its giving me a headache.

[@jkkj9894]

Read Qur'an 2500 times

[@zapperbolt]

"the prophet was the first quranist" !!! can argumentation get any worse?? what a foolish argument.

[@alexojideagu]

Technically it's true though he was a Quranist. Unless we're saying Mohammad was told things that Muslims must do that were not part of the Quran? So why does the Quran contain other rules to follow then? Why would some rules be missing and only in the hadiths? Why were they not preserved like the Quran?

[@zapperbolt]

@@alexojideagu do u really wanna question the policies of THE SOVEREIGN??

[@QuranicIslam]

@@zapperbolt And your reply to @Alex ... that is a good argument?

[@zapperbolt]

@@QuranicIslam thats not an argument. thats one of the most important truths.

[@QuranicIslam]

@@zapperbolt Don't be ridiculous ... "Do you want to question the policies of the sovereign" is am argument, and it is a foolish argument and response to what Alex said.

[@aladindelic]

Hajj means "debate", so...

[@thelegando4281]

Hajj is a season

[@thelegando4281]

Debating is haram

[@mo5746]

This guest is so goofy, his facial expressions crack me up 😂

[@obaidulhaque7687]

Not suitable word to use , he is rather enthusiastic

[@tobyluke1]

Sure, why not?

[@OsirisAndrade-o5r]

However look taraweed prayer is in sahi bukari and you follow not the Prophet s.a.w but Umar so in this mátter you far away from the sunna

[@BM8C7]

Someone tell the guy that the Muslims in Tucson are not quranists, but submitters

[@ashsharp1985]

Amazing

[@baqirgill07]

I think ur one to solve. .tariq massood...vs... engr Ali mirza

[@mohammaddanishiqubal8483]

Engr bitched out

[@deprintdigital56]

I don't think there is quranist (pure quran in his heart) will pointing anybody whom will be going to hell just mentioned by MALM. I would think the brother from Wellness center himself has never tried to read the whole quran and interpret it by his own language. No way anybody can verify the quranist is wrong whilst he himself does not know the hikmah and wisdom of the quran itself. Quran is in arabic cause Rasul SAW is using that language and how could Allah give the quran to Rasul SAW in another language that he does not understand...that is mentioned in Quran by Allah. The quranist questioning the hadith is due to its authenticity and legitimacy of schoolar. Why can't we critisized the hadith while Sunni Ulama himself did so?

[@SiriuslyCold]

6:36 "islam was taught from parent to child and in community and this is how it got transmitted by the living tradition" how would one reconcile this with verse 2:170? _If they are told “Follow what God has revealed,” they say, “Rather We will follow what we found our fathers doing,” even though their fathers did not understand anything and were not guided. (02:170)_ "They" here is referring to the people who are following the path of Satan (2:169) - does it mean that if we do not follow what was revealed, we are following the path of Satan?

[@silentlofderis7225]

I think the context is about faith because it's talking about those who rejects revelation, not certain ritual/tradition practices.

[@SiriuslyCold]

The faith is expressed in those rituals and traditions, yes?

[@hassanabdur-rahman1559]

Although I follow the Quran alone, I don't agree with your conclusion. You are reading your own thoughts into that verse. You are also being dogmatic and judgemental. Someone who prays the 5 daily ritual prayers aren't doing anything wrong. I pray them myself. We don't need more sects in Islam. We should try to unite the Muslim world by inviting them to return to the Quran.

[@jeangatti9384]

Islam is certainly not the only path to God ... there are many other ways to find God ... Islam has not received a God's monopoly ... believing this is incredibly arrogant

[@Lil-jt4wd]

First.

[@Dawahdude0]

Living tradition was also recorded in the form of hadith we get more details in the hadith and also set criteria to decide the most authentic tradition without contradicting to the Qur'an

[@Aesieda]

You can't get more details in the hadith because the Qur'an said it is fully detailed and explained. Please don't lie against the Qur'an.

[@Dawahdude0]

@@Aesieda Hadiths contain actions of the prophet and his companions. This is a very good guide to develop rulings for understanding Qur'an

[@waqas46652]

@@Aesieda lol sorry liberal. Quranist are deluded. Taking the quran literally word for word is a dangerous path.

[@Aesieda]

@@waqas46652 No one cares about your opinions that aren't supported by facts.

[@waqas46652]

@@Aesieda liberals snowflakes like you don't like facts. 😅😅 please tell me exactly how you pray. How you perform Hajj. Let see you sugarcoat this

[@alqemist123]

Damn, this comment section full of angry, arrogant murtads 😅

[@shukriyusof2104]

At around the 9min:30sec. mark, MALM narrated about a hadith where a dead body... the prophet stood up... when asked about it... he said it's a soul..." yeah... right... and you claimed the prophet you named Muhammad said it like that... "it is a soul" as the "dead body" was carried away! now, use your God given intelligence and ask yourself; When you are dead, is your soul still inside your body? and now read this verse... 39:42 God retrieves people's souls at the time of their death, and the souls of the living during their sleep. He then keeps those for which He has decreed death and releases the others until an appointed term. There are signs in this for people who reflect. Duuuh! So, dear Mufti, go read the Quran and always use your head to ponder, think and "debate" with the Quran... it is okay... sanctioned by the All Mighty God Himself! 4:82 Will they not, then, try to understand this Qur’an? Had it issued from any but God, they would surely have found in it many an inner contradiction. salam.

[@G_1allah]

Your being extremely literal . That is not the point . The point is the respect for that persons soul . Sometimes we try and be to smart for our own good

[@shukriyusof2104]

@@G_1allah So, you are a hadith apologist? Anywho... what do you mean by "extremely literal?" Is there such a thing as "moderately literal?" And, most importantly, is there any difference, within the present context under discussion, between "extremely literal" and "moderately literal?" Care to put your 2 cents worth of apologist drivel on this? salam.

[@G_1allah]

@@shukriyusof2104 I believe the misuse of a hadiths have been the downfall of Islam . But it does not mean imma throw the baby out with the bath water

[@G_1allah]

@@shukriyusof2104 n my bad for taking so long to respond

[@G_1allah]

@@shukriyusof2104 Abdullah ibn Mas’ud reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “The hairsplitters have been ruined.” The Prophet said it three times. Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 2670 Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Muslim Ibn Rajab said, “The hairsplitter is one who digs deeply into what does not concern him. This persists in one who depend upon the literal wording and denies other meanings and analogies, such as the literalists.” Source: Jāmiʻ al-ʻUlūm wal-Ḥikam 30

[@zapperbolt]

the guest making real foolish arguments. but Mufti saab killed them all with slow posoning. real silent killer.

[@therealislam3528]

How do we all understand languishes subjectively ? You guys should’ve shut this down in the first minute , the messenger was the first to follow the Quran only and did not follow his Sunna with it , defence rest peace .

[@MrYusha]

Shaykh Farhan Hassan Al Maliki is called a Quranist but I think he just puts the Quran first and is very careful and makes sure the Hadith he quotes are surely sahih. Shaykh Khaled Abou El Fadl's the same, he has no problem with Hadith but it has to be in line with the character of Rasullullah saws and the message of the Quran. There are some modern books in English of Hadith that are very beautiful and you can tell are of Rasullullah Muhammad saws do to knowing his Akhlaq and following the gist of the Quran. I have made a video of the books of Hadith on my page that contain beautiful Hadith that make you understand and see how lovely and sacred Rasullullah saws, his character and speech are.

[@MomoAfterDark]

You idolize Muhammad it’s shirk. Did Allah or the prophet decide what is “sahih” or scholars invent it?

[@lkae4]

Great point that Muhammad was a Qur'anist. I have a follow-up question: Was Muhammad a Muslim? Muslims must submit to allah and Muhammad. How can Muhammad submit to himself?

[@seifdeiab8995]

Well played*

[@user-lc5ix6qm5h]

How does that make sense? Muhammad submit to Allah through following the Quran alone

[@abousaalih8177]

Muslims don't submit to Mohammed

[@greengalaxy8873]

Muslims submit to Allah only. Get your facts straight.

[@seifdeiab8995]

@@greengalaxy8873 wait, we thought you submit to both since God says “obey God and obey the messenger and the authority among you.” I guess we define submit differently

[@HitherandYarn]

Yeah, I think you nailed it Mufti. I also think (thinking of my sisters-in-law) if you are illiterate, you can't read Qur'an and have to take what you are told as truth. So, that kills the Quranist movement right there. I tend to distrust hadith, just because there are so many variations in interpretation. When I was learning Islam my teacher said, "Yes, there are 4 schools of law (actually more) but their differences are" insignificant." But people have died for these "insignificant" differences. I don't label myself. I used to say I was Sunni, when people asked, but now I say I'm generic. To blindly follow something just isn't my way. I can't help it. Mostly, I read the Qur'an, and if I have a doubt, or don't understand at all, THEN I look for a hadith that might clarify it or look on Imam Google. I find that the more I just go through the act of reading Qur'an, the more beautiful it becomes and the more I understand. Thanks for your videos.