Public Debate: Is Muhammed Prophesised in the Bible? James White vs Zakir Hussain

[@exposemyfoes]

zakir hussain vs david wood on the covenant of Abraham,it is a good sequel to this debate, i recommend you all to watch it

[@mysteriousx3258]

@Walter Hamlin *I DON'T*

[@mysteriousx3258]

@Walter Hamlin *#ONEMESSAGEFOUNDATION*

[@TheAlilah]

james white refuted everything in his first time standing up...It is too easy

[@JamalAdam455]

In your dreams 😂

[@microfrogyt]

As a Christian, I ask other Christians to please stop throwing around insults and mocking other people. Yes, we don't believe the Quran is the word of God, but the Bible is. Yes, we believe Muhammed wasn't a prophet. Yes, we believe that Jesus is God and Savior. But there's no reason to insult or mock others in the comment section here. Calling people "idiots", "stupid", and every other name under the sun does nothing to bring people to Christ, and just causes kneejerk reactions among Muslims. We're supposed to be loving, patient, and longsuffering, not vitriolic, angry, and snarky. Please remember that.

[@alicat4947]

Agree 100% - love rules in the end!!!!

[@missmyredwolf]

Right on Frog. UNbelievers are confused, which we all KNOW that, but 1,000s of people don't care WHY they are. They're like(I feel), the person who reaches a "fork-in-the-road". You have a LIAR and a PRIEST. You ask, "Which way to Heaven"? The liar says "To the right", the priest says "To the Left". Which one would you believe is telling the Truth beyond a shadow of a doubt? Many say the Priest, JUST because, he's a Priest. They believe him, but don't know why, other than having the "Title". That ALONE is why people are, the way they are, mad, confused, lost, UNeducated about YAHWEH. By the way, the Liar is MORE to believe, because he lies for a living. The Priest tells the truth, but they "take his word" for it without understanding WHY you should believe him, just like Religions. Liar says "right", you go left, you believe in that person MORE, because you know/understand his background and beliefs vs.the Priest.

[@04maryam04]

Even after watching this debate you still believe that Jesus is your God and saviour, perhaps you don't know your scriptures whatsoever.

[@2011arish]

abdelhakim mokhbat jesus is the son of god

[@juniordean86]

***** u obviously cant comprehend academic arguments. White didnt refute anyyhing

[@madalitsonjobvucristoclear]

a lovely debate, been encouraged to dig deeper and deeper

[@alwqasalwqas3943]

Masha Allah brother Zakir , well done

[@seanavp]

@Alwqas Alwqas, Well done? Did you happen to actually listen to the debate? What part was "well done"??? When will Muslims accept the *fact* that Muhammad is missing from the bible? Why is that so difficult for Muslims to understand? The quran makes erroneous claims about Muhammad being revealed in the bible. Learn to accept it. Deal with it. Please stop forcing Islamic characters into biblical passages.

[@jimfromwakanda7991]

@@seanavp why do christians always put their fingers in their ears and close their eyes when a christian has a debate with a Muslim, Jew or Atheist?

[@seanavp]

@@jimfromwakanda7991 *I don't know brother, it must be the ear wax.* *Can I help you?*

[@seanavp]

@@jimfromwakanda7991 *Let's discuss Isaiah 42.*

[@fcbkingmessi4664]

@@seanavp I wanna discuss Isaiah 42 with you... You start....

[@37rogu7]

Seeing the comments from the Christian below just prove the point Zakir Hussain is telling the truth. Not a single person is arguing any points he brought up, they are just saying things like "hes whack, he need to study more, Jesus is still god" White could not answer the question about the Holy Ghost not being God. His only response was "I can imagine a God that loves me" Emotional response? He failed to answer more questions yet Christian seems satisfied. And say, "Truth has come, and falsehood has departed. Indeed is falsehood, [by nature], ever bound to depart." Verse 17:81

[@tanngata6344]

Really? That God cannot be told what to do? Of course God the Father wills it, the Son speaks it and the Holy Spirit does it. Just see Genesis 1.

[@37rogu7]

Tan Ngata If a "God" is told what to do, then that "God" is not God. It is rather simple logic. Christians have yet to answer the question. It is simple, I'll ask you and see if you can answer it. 1. Can God be told what to say?

[@giggsy11united]

+IlmWolf ...LOL....it is so obvious that pointing to specifics is pointless....Zakir Hussain never makes any legitimate points that require clarification, and that Dr White didn't already destroy!!! watch hs manic body language, and nervous , wild eyed desperation....it speaks for itself.

[@giggsy11united]

+IlmWolf ...more basic straw man ignorance....do gte yoursef a littoe education, and learn what teh incranation entaisl and what the susbequent positional lowering involved...and THEN come back when you have at least a small amount of knowedge, and can ask a legitimate question, based on an actual undestanding of scripture.

[@37rogu7]

greg william Oh I thought you were going to counter this argument. Nope! more empty rhetoric. Only prove the point even more. Thanks for that. "do gte yoursef a littoe education, and learn what teh incranation entaisl and what the susbequent positional lowering involved" Are we still speaking in English?

[@albanezo]

i swear to god this is the absolute best muslim christian debate, massive solid information and i believe james white learned his lesson.

[@ttshiroma]

This man is too learned! He debunked every pointless topic thrown at him. BTW the best Muslim Apologist is Shabir Alli. This debate wasn't even close.

[@hippiekarl7]

@@ttshiroma Shabir's my favorite Canadian stand-up comic........

[@CyprusHot]

Last Ottoman Muslim lost

[@sotem3608]

Hey last ottoman, I've seen a lot of debated -> muslim/christian. As mentioned by others, there are a lot of better debates than this one from the muslim side.

[@YoYo-ze2bp]

this is probably the 10th time I've watched this debate... amazing performance Br. Zakir!

[@JS-ok4dx]

He got totally obliterated wdym?

[@YoYo-ze2bp]

@@JS-ok4dx really? u think that's a good answer 2:00:59 ? I swear to god, JW is no more than a good speaker. his answers r emotional, not intellectual. start using ur intellect and leave ur emotions aside. Br. Zakir totally destroyed James White.

[@JS-ok4dx]

@@YoYo-ze2bp Lol, Muslims are funny. They claim the Torat and Injeel are corrupt but try to use the Torat and Injeel to prove the prophethood of Muhammad? Does that make any sense to you? That fact alone should make you realize that all of Zakir’s arguments are irrelevant besides being woefully unacademic. Please tell me some of the “intellectual arguments” that Zakir had? I’d love to know what you thought was convincing?

[@YoYo-ze2bp]

@@JS-ok4dx when we say that the torah and injeel r corrupt, we don't mean that there is no truth in them or that they r holistically corrupt. whatever agrees with the quran is part of that which wasn't corrupt. whatever disagrees is part of that which was changed. The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: Whatever the people of the Book tell you, do not verify them, nor falsify them, but say: We believe in Allah and His Apostle. If it is false, do not confirm it, and if it is right, do not falsify it. i mean... literally EVERY argument zakir made was intellectual. dude, the funniest thing is when JW got caught by zakir 1:09:58 HAHAHAHAA JW took words that come from the same root. see how he deceives u? Br. zakir literally SMASHED james white. u can cry all u want. the truth is the truth.

[@JS-ok4dx]

@@YoYo-ze2bp Lol, so basically you are saying that whatever (you think) agrees with the quran, that is authentic, but whatever disagrees with the quran, that is corrupt? Only a Muslim could make such a fallacious argument un-ironically. You are using your hypothesis to dictate what evidence is true - very intellectual. The quran doesn’t even know what Christians believe: (Sura 5:116) “And imagine when thereafter Allah will say: 'Jesus, son of Mary, did you say to people: "Take me and my mother for gods beside Allah?"130 and he will answer: "Glory to You! It was not for me to say what I had no right to.” Neither Catholics nor Protestants have EVER believed that Mary was part of the trinity. Clearly Muhammad had no idea what he was talking about. But according to you, we should ignore the Torat and Injeel and listen to a 7th century illiterate Arabian who lived over 500 years after the events of the Bible and who doesn’t know what the Christians and Jews even believe. Oh ya and this supposed prophet revealed satanic verses of the quran allowing paganism. Oh ya and he got bewitched by a sorceress. MASHALLAH ALLAH HAS SURLY BLESSED MUHAMMAD (SWA). (Sura 5:110) “And when thou createst out of the clay, by My leave as the likeness of a bird, and thou breathest into it and it is a bird by my leave.” This story about Jesus breathing life into clay birds (similar to how God blew life into Adam) is from the gnostic texts which are apocryphal writings long after the gospels and non-authentic blasphemy. Gnosticism was very popular in 7th century Arabia which is probably why Muhammad was misinformed. It’s funny, Muslims believe that Allah sent over 124,000 prophets but all of their scriptures got corrupted and now for the 124,001 try, Allah will send Muhammad and the scriptures will never be corrupted again MASHALLAH!!!!! SUBHANALLAH!!!! Maybe Allah should have sent Muhammad as his first prophet to avoid causing so much shirk, but Allahu Alam I guess... You say: “literally EVERY argument Zakir made was intellectual”, but practically no scholars of the Old and New Testament would agree that a 7th century Arabian named Muhammad is prophesied in Exodus, the Song of Solomon, the Gospels or any other part of the Bible. Only Muslims make this argument because of the following Sura: (Sura 10:94-95) “And if thou (Muhammad) art in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto thee, then question those who read the Scripture (that was) before thee. Verily the Truth from thy Lord hath come unto thee. So be not thou of the waverers.” Allah tells Muhammad to ask the people of the book to confirm his prophethood but unfortunately, no one believed he was a prophet mainly because Muhammad wasn’t a Jew and Yahweh’s covenant is with the offspring of Isaac, not Ishmael (see Genesis 17:20-21). This is essentially why Muhammad started killing the Jews in Medina and started praying towards the Kaaba instead of the temple in Jerusalem Everyone was looking in their scriptures trying to find Muhammad but the best prophesy anyone could find was Song of Solomon 5:16 lol. The Song of Solomon contains beautiful and sensuous poetry expressing romantic love between a young man (a shepherd 1:7) and.a young woman (a shepherdess 1:8). A key theme is that marriage is a gift from God to be founded on commitment and loyalty. The young lady in the passage Zakir cited is describing her husband's body in Song of Solomon 5:10-16. You have to take the entire chapter out of the context to believe she is actually talking about an Arabian who will live over a thousand years later lol. This makes absolutely no sense and James White even showed that by using this unsound logic, you can interpret the prophethood of Zakir, but clearly this all went over your head. Also, kinda weird that Allah is dropping prophesy clues in what is essentially ancient porn writings LOL. No wonder Allah promises full-breasted [companions] of equal age. (An-Naba [78] : 33) in Jannah. I will admit though that Muhammad is mentioned once in the Bible: (Mathew 17:15-20) “Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.” As an ex-Muslim, most of my childhood I investigated the tree of Islam and found its fruit bitter and withered - inshallah my parents will come to the light. I pray you will see the light and realize that God loves you so much that he humbled himself to be a servant for his creation in order to save it from sin.

[@BECALM_ASMR]

Respect to MDI for uploading this debate, win or lose aside.

[@MostafaAli-ty2gb]

Ok let’s be honest. James white is an intelligent person and does his due diligence and he is also (very importantly) a good speaker which pulls the attention for most times. However, I keep hearing repeating with ignorance and not solving the issues of the Muslims claims. I’ve been noticing Christian missionaries try to reach the audience by preaching and sweet talking rather than dealing with issues that matter. Jazak Allah khair brother zaker, you have a win case in my view as being honest. I’ve been listening throu evidence clearly talks about a prophet who’s clearly prophet mohammad peace be upon him.

[@user-my5bg5nm2w]

they both presented their evidence , if so what is the measurement of honesty here ? because you said Zaker is honest how do you define honesty here .....?

[@deeharris_4350]

I’m curious, what sweet talking was there? I’ve watched this debate at least twice and I’m watching again and I didn’t see any sweet talking from James at all, but I’m not sure what Christian missionaries you’re referring to. *God bless*

[@iliaschannel3646]

@@user-my5bg5nm2w well if you think God ie " holly spirit" is being taught what to say by another God " the father " , the debate is finished .

[@aaronalexander421]

YOU ARE NOT HONEST....YOU ARE MUSLIM

[@DunstanStLuce]

That's your opinion but in this debate Dr. White stuck to the topic and made a masterful presentation. If you are honest Zakir was whipped full sore.

[@tareqallan]

Zakir rebuttal video was even stronger then his speech , BarakAllahfeeh

[@youngstudentloandebts3778]

I can’t find the video you’re talking about. Could you send me a link?

[@tareqallan]

young student loan debts it’s in the talk itself where they rebut each other

[@youngstudentloandebts3778]

tareq abed oh I just misunderstood you

[@mokhaking2734]

zakir hussain is a nightmare for christians apologists. he completely dismantles them.

[@JS-ok4dx]

Lol Zakir using the comforter as proof of Muhammad is the dumbest argument any Muslim could use. He is essentially saying Jesus is God because Jesus sends the comforter and according to Islam only God sends prophets 😭😭

[@rizwanramzan5729]

@@JS-ok4dx read the was whole verse... Jesus (pbuh) sent the Comforter by PRAYING AND ASKING the Father to send the Comforter. So by prayer..it happened.

[@JS-ok4dx]

Rizwan Ramzan John 14:17 says: "the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you." Jesus says the spirit of truth cannot be seen by the world nor can the world know him, was Muhammad seen? Did people know muhammad? Of course they did. Did muhammad live inside the disciples? Of course not, but the spirit does. You see Muhammad isn't prophesied in either the Torat or the Injeel. The disciples talk about receiving the Holy Spirit in the book of Acts and it is clearly a spirit from god and not a person.

[@rizwanramzan5729]

@@JS-ok4dx this debate already ADDRESSED that...watch it again... The Comforter is a prophet(a human)...not a ghost or spirit... Spirit of truth is a hebrew expression meaning a "truthful human/Prophet"..

[@rizwanramzan5729]

@@JS-ok4dx what are you talking about? The verse says NOTHING of living with the disciples and Jesus pbuh came 1000 yrs AFTER Moses pbuh!!!! LOL Does that make Jesus a false Messiah (according to you) because he came 1000 yrs later? Time is irrelevant...God sends His prophets at ANY given time. It is NOT dictated by how we feel. Again...Zakir addresses this and White had no answers. Please watch the debate...

[@Allaahuakkbar]

This video made me convert to Islam Alhamdulila :-)

[@MohamedAmin-ff2if]

Kanuni Sultan Suleyman I am sorry brother , I a muslim too . But at Islam we cannot lie . I saw you writing a comment on another video of nouman Ali khan linguistic miracles saying you converted to Islam. And at at another video of a man named yahya snow explaining false prophecies at the Bible, you said the same thing. I am not here being offensive

[@stylishbizzle38]

Kanuni Sultan Suleyman enjoy hell😉

[@stylishbizzle38]

Mohamed Amin It's taqiyya perfectly acceptable in islam.

[@talalmohiuddin269]

How many time you have converted

[@chaosinorder9685]

Kanuni Sultan Suleyman that’s a shame. Islam is one of the easiest beliefs to disprove

[@squadaimat2923]

Christian apologists, they see that in the old testament and new testament but will never admit it , because the minute they admit that Christianity would essentially would be in vain like Paul said.

[@williamjames4031]

Not necessarily, both the Old testament and the New Testament teach that Jesus Christ is God.

[@gokustrike4449]

I enjoy br Zakir’s rebuttals. They’re legendary man!😅

[@blusheep2]

I find other Muslims better at debating then him. He uses extreme sources, calls on the unknown, and avoids the plethera of verses that define the verses he uses to support his point. That isn't to say Dr. White is doing an amazing job but Zakir is not at the top of his game.

[@purdess3420]

@@blusheep2 this was his first public debate

[@blusheep2]

@@purdess3420 Well, that may explain things then. I didn't know that.

[@Ttcopp12rt]

@@blusheep2 He's lying to you. This was his 4th or 5th debate. Zakar debated Samuel Green and others prior to this debate. You can find them here on KZbin.

[@blusheep2]

@@Ttcopp12rt Thanks for the info

[@dustbeneathourfeet3255]

Zakir Hussain did an amazing job! White couldn't answer many questions: like, how could the Comforter be the Holy Spirit when the Holy Spirit was already there? How can "the Prophet like Moses" be Jesus when Jesus had no father?

The Holy Spirit had assignments, but he never came to reside permanently until the day of pentecost following Christ's ascension. Saying that Jesus can be a prophet like Moses does not mean he has to be just like Moses. Would Jesus have to be born in Egypt, Would he have to lead his people out of Egypt? Would Muhammad fulfill those requirements? I think you miss what a simile is. Also, Deut. 34:11-12 refers to Moses performing signs and wonders which he performed in the sight of all Israel. I don't think Muhammad performed miracles. John 14:25 does not say Jesus was speaking figuratively. Another strike against Zakir.

[@rustykrusty3098]

Are u joking?

[@timcreekmur2770]

Peace "Dust Beneath our Feet, in the name of Yasua/Jesus The Christ, who is God incarnate in the Flesh..for mans' ATONEMENT, unto a Holy God..(Zechariah 12th chapter& John1:14). To Scholarly, and Scripturally share with you, in response to your presented question above, " How can "the Prophet like Moses" be Jesus when Jesus had no father?). If you have surly, completely read the scripture(s), Yaweh inspired Moses(2nd Timothy 3:16), to give unto the ancient Hebrews at that time, you'll see a "NATIONALITY SPECIFIC" identifying word, Yaweh give......BRETHREN-(Deuteronomy 18:15-The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken;).. To assist you in your research, which i encourage you, and all to do, for to allow TRUTH IN LINGUISTICS of the Word-Of God/Bible to speak for itself, (Original Word for BRETHEREN in Ancient Hebrew enytomology is spelled( אָח). THIS MEANS "BROTHER OR COUNTRYMEN". If you're able to scholarly, and Academically find, where Yaweh/God, EVER used any other male figure, ..OTHER THEN HEBRAIC DESCENT DURING BIBLICAL HISTORY...to be called, and serve Yaweh, AS A PROPHET. Hope this helps you Sir. Have a smooth Day.

[@rustykrusty3098]

+Nunya Dibness Ahmed Deedat and Zakir Naik are terrible liars. Hope they come to faith in Christ as their God!

Rusty Krusty - Unfortunately, Deedat is dead and knows the truth, now. We can hope for Zakir Naik, but I won't hold my breath for him to convert to Christ.

[@FromIslam2Christ]

Good debate. I love Dr White's work, very scholarly and thorough. I converted from Islam to Christianity in 2009

[@stiryotype4695]

you converted from islam to christianity? cool. But how did you pull that off?

[@stiryotype4695]

MASOODKHAN RANA the quran is just as insane.

[@stiryotype4695]

Arshad Rana you want us to show you an apostate so that you can kill him for blasphemy?

[@abdallahalameen2172]

+FromIslam2Christ Whenever a christian converts from islam to christianity its because the way Jesus(as) made him feel, nothing to do with logic or reasoning when a muslim converts it's because of scripture and reasoning

[@stiryotype4695]

abdallah AlAmeen anyone who reasons will become an atheist. Islam is stupid and fit for morons. so is christianity

[@rizwanramzan5729]

Christianity is an emotional religion. It does not use scripture or logic. Blind followers will see clearly when they enter the Barzakh(grave). May God guide humanity. Ameen.

[@williamjames4031]

Haha haha 🤣🤣😄😄😂😂😂😂😂😅😅 laughing alot. This is coming from a Muslim, if an atheist said that I would have believed it.

[@LegitMHx]

@@williamjames4031 It's true, Christianity is entirely emotional. Lacks any kind of substantial logical coherency.

[@williamjames4031]

@@LegitMHx haha 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 laughing alot. You Muslims pray 5 times a day everyday, that's based on emotions. You guys are a robot saying words that have no meanings.

[@hamzanasser5171]

@@williamjames4031 oh because you know cos you've studied religion or are just one of those ppl who think they are all the same. if you had any idea or any knowledge you would quickly see how dumb you really are. you laugh but at the end of the day you still think you can get something when before there was nothing, anything with limited variables depends on something that proceeds it for in order for it to exist, the first piece of matter to come into existence there has to be a thing with unlimited variables at the beginning, a bit of knowledge goes a long way shame atheist claim they have knowledge yet you can explain dependency. think twice before you mock.

[@raidanal-salemi1202]

William James Misconceptions about Islam kzbin.info/www/bejne/sGjCooiNgcZ3grM kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqWpcqKwnLKdbJI kzbin.info/aero/PLuItTHxlUy9l8ikOxvjbggdOunW2RAhQr Women's rights kzbin.info/www/bejne/j4mlZ6uuibSSb5Y kzbin.info/www/bejne/gKKWqqyXq81_r8k www.islamandquran.org/fatwas/why-men-inherit-twice-the-women.html www.islamandquran.org/fatwas/marry/does-god-permit-beating-wives.html Slavery kzbin.info/www/bejne/fqfVlWCCabZ8rNk kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5bPpZ-eZ9GUl5o kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKe1Y3ltiMujn6s Misconception about Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) kzbin.info/www/bejne/g4CTkmuId8mWeZY kzbin.info/www/bejne/b3OUdYWPn9ech6s kzbin.info/www/bejne/qnWUhoV8pZqUb80

[@zakadam154]

Excellent

[@marvelcomiks8078]

Only mention of Muhammad in the Bible is in 1 John 2:22 - "Who is the Liar? Such a man is the Anti-Christ, he rejects the Father(God) and the Son(Jesus)".

[@LuisPrado90]

Exactly.

[@tamimkhan9093]

Marvel Comiks we Muslims never reject God the Father. however when it comes to Jesus we just don't understand fully God and fully man at the same time. It raises so many issues... Is the flesh part of trinity? Did God die on the cross or was it only the flesh? I just wanna learn thank you

[@snoopster77]

www.gotquestions.org/did-God-die.html

[@EpikMunk]

Marvel Comiks - New International Version 1 john 2:22 Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist--denying the Father and the Son. Explain to me how the prophet (saw) denies the father and the son? Where does the prophet (saw) deny jesus is the christ?

[@abubakrmala4553]

Marvel Comiks sounds like a Hindu god with 3 heads and limbs

[@muslim610]

Well done Brother Zakir.

[@lucky258i]

That's because you are on the same side of religion as Zakir, but if you logically listen then the guy making PROFOUND sense is the bald guy. No doubt about it. Too bad when you know what makes sense and listen to the truth of the matter and still hold your ground as an enemy of logic then there is no remedy for you. That's how the pharisee Jews went against Jesus, not because he didn't prove to them he is God but because they didn't want to let go of their status in power. So they did everything to get rid of him but evidently God used their hatred and murder as his own plan towards him to execute his will - to save what was lost (people) through absolute justice.

[@AgainstTheGrain1991]

Well done? Lol did the bald white guy not disprove every point brother Zakir claimed? Watch it again lol and pay attention to how mad he got because him being proven wrong showing how the quran contradicts itself Godbless

[@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543]

@@AgainstTheGrain1991 no they were many unresponded points like how Prophet Muhammad peace and blessings on him entered Bakkah with 10,000! or how there is a Prophet after Messiah, or how the holy spirit was alread present and never left with Angel Jibril, so teh comfortor of isiah 42 is Arab Ismaeli and Muhammad peace and blessings on him!

[@MirroringTruth]

And that's why I believe the Bible. It's stuff actually comes true and you dont have to finagle things and words around to make them fit.... In Jesus name.

[@JoeMorreale1187]

Mashallah , sheer class from Zakir

[@11REVERT]

Even if Muhammad wasn't prophesised in bible, the opinions of non-Muslim scholars, historians, theologians about Muhammad was enough for me to accept Islam.

[@HebrewLiteracy]

Very interesting debate thanks for sharing!

[@edgespear101]

You haven't answered my question. Who is "the Prophet" in John 1:19-25. I follow the Quran because it is the truth.

[@tudungsenduk]

Thank you for confirming it is a masculine plural noun and NOT an adjective. Please tell that to Dr White that he failed. Period.

[@aaaronobaid3571]

i know right? i also got confused when he hinself cliamed is not adjective and that proved zakirs point!

[@shellystone3211]

The promise to Ishmael was fullfilled when he had 12 sons and a GREAT life and legacy. The bible says Ishmael died in the area of Paran and was buried there.

[@andytheforgotten9631]

Thank you for the upload

[@wateringflower]

Hamza's Den (the arena) brought me here!

[@MohamedAmin-ff2if]

Zakir Hussein demolished him

[@thomasmyers3808]

Mohamed Amin hahahaha! That’s funny.

[@bomb1232]

@Bob Haughey Look who I found here.

[@bomb1232]

@Bob Haughey Wow your stupidity smells everywhere on KZbin. Phajandnbdbhshdjkflm. Poor guy trying to respond to me searching all over the internet. Good job. At least you realised that you can't find anything. Fjdkdlhddkdkldckdna

[@bomb1232]

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[@RemembranceOfAllah]

Thanks for such a polite response. :) God bless.

[@KS-vs4ke]

I respect Dr. White. I like his debates ;) but this time he gets a bit too personal, nervous and a bit orragant :( he seemed to be not feeling comfortable with Zakir's arguments .. it was very disappointing from him .. at the end it was very interesting debate for both Muslims and Christians.. my respect to both men.

[@rabkhan]

Whats your name Dr White? Hahahaha

[@tudungsenduk]

In Acts 3:22 the you and your is in the plural while Deut 18:15 is in the singular. Zakir said "This is misquoting Moses". Lol and White just got aggressive.

[@tanzimalam5970]

It was dissapointing that James White did not touch on Zakir's points. Very tactical of White to just selectively choose the points that he could talk about and just not bring up any other of Zakir's points e.g. Who is the great nation from Abraham, Bakka being mentioned and other stuff. Yes the way Zakir delivered his speech is like a scattered gun but he absolutely brought up many points that needed discussing.

[@abumuhamedaleealansari7811]

Hello everyone question for Christian can anyone give a reference in the old testament where Moses , Aaron, or Abraham peace be upon them state or believe that Jesus peace be upon him was their Lord and savior and came to die for their sins ?

[@abumuhamedaleealansari7811]

***** Isaiah 53 what verse and did Jews people understood the verse to mean in the way you Christian interpretative it ?

[@abumuhamedaleealansari7811]

The prophecy doesn't follow through because it mentions nothing death and resurrection after three which is what jesus allegedly said in the gospel

[@nicerperson1]

Abu Muhamed Alee Al Ansari The Jews saw Isaiah 53 to be a prophecy of the suffering servant sent by God - they believed there were TWO Messiahs, one would be called Ben Joseph and one would be called Ben David - Because the promises of Messiah mentioned BOTH a suffering servant AND a conquering King. To overcome the paradox, they believed that if Israel was unfaithful to God, they would get the suffering servant, if they remained faithful, they would receive the coming King. One solution to their paradox was that BOTH the suffering servant AND the coming King are the same person. Jesus appeared as a servant, but Jesus will return as King. 250 years before the birth of Jesus, the Hebrew scriptures were translated in Greek because there was a huge population of Hebrews who had grown up only speaking Greek, the common language around the Mediterranean from 300 BC to 300 AD - and they translated Isaiah where it promises a young made will conceive (there is no Hebrew word for virgin) and the translated it as Parthenos - which DOES mean virgin. Obviously a young woman getting pregnant is not exactly as sign is it? Both the Bible and the Koran say Mary was a virgin - so a virgin giving birth has only ever happened once in all of history. Jesus, the Messiah, his very name means Yahweh Saves. So every time you see a prophecy about Messiah (and there are loads of them - the Rabbis have more than the Christians do) then it is a prophecy of Jesus. You do believe Jesus is the Messiah, yes?

[@abumuhamedaleealansari7811]

+nicerperson yes I do Esa peace be upon him but can you give me reference about what jews people said about Isa 53 because I read their commentary on jewsforJudaism.com where they said different the suffering servant is know as the nation of Israel if you read the previous chapter it's continuation of the prophecy from there plus it doesn't mention anything about death and resurrection after three days is the corner stone of Christianity

[@57epiphany]

Abu Muhamed Alee Al Ansari Actually, I dont understand why are you using this line of reasoning.. because it will hurt your believe..... Lets get this right, does your koran tell you that Jesus is the Messiah? If it does then, can you debate the Jews using your koran that Jesus is the Prophesied Messiah? The coming of the Saviour & Messiah was progressively revealed in the Old Testament .. from the Day Adam & Eve disobeyed the God of Abraham, the Redemption process was "activated"! The Old Testament is all about the coming Messiah...and it also records man's arrogance, pride, rebellious nature etc.. and sample of God's Judgement! Its not based on one verse or action... it all comes together! Jews basically says that Isaiah is relating to the nation of the Israel.. etc.. and further to that like the previous poster has said they are expecting like 2 forms of Messiah! That is where Christianity & Judaism part... please note they also dont accept Jesus as a Prophet.. so if you want to take the Jewish line..then you have to accept your koran is false!

[@MrRaiders209]

Brother Hussain brings verses and proof in this lecture, James can’t address his points and tries to but fails and then resorts to preaching and saying non-biblical things. Islam is the fastest growing religion on earth for a reason and Christianity is dropping for a reason.

[@syedmuneeb1870]

MashaAllah great debate by Zakir Hussain. Arguments made by Sh. Zakir Hussain *Deuteronomy 17 *Deuteronomy 18 *Deuteronomy 33 *Deuteronomy 34 *Song of Solomon 5:10-16 and 6:1-6 *John 16 *John 17:3 *Psalms 84 *Jews waiting for a prophet *Egypt ruler and Heraculius accepting the prophethood of Muhammad (SAW) *1 Maccabees 4:10 *John 14 *Quran 61:6, 4:157, 13:43, 2:42 *Hosea 11 *Exodus 4:22 What James White did was just played around with the meanings and interpretation of these verses to suit his interests. Though he says he cares for Muslims, he is himself being biased and not being consistent with his statements. It seemed like James White is more concerned in converting Muslims than appreciating the message and the truth of the Quranic message. Zakir Hussain answered all points and arguments made by James White. He was consistent. Jazakallah MDI for organizing these debates!!

[@tengbehjosephnyuma8278]

He explicitly explained the verses which Zakir was misrepresenting and misusing. He should go learn more. He's very limited.

[@dqschannel]

Are you serious? He got spanked like your prophet.

[@dqschannel]

How the hell is John 14.17 talking about Muhammad? Are you stupid?

[@heavybar3850]

what are you talking about. He directly adressed the arguments

[@JoeMorreale1187]

Spot on Brother. Personally I like Zakir's style and one of the reasons I do is bcse he employs a lot of logic which he emphasises by repeating the significance of certain points and demanding of the audience that they pay close attention . For eg when he says explains the comforter /holy spirit prophecy from Jesus he says : this spirit or comforter cannot b part of the trinity godhead bcse HE SPEAKS NOT NOT ON HIS AUTHORITY BUT THAT HE HEARS!

[@covenantofthebook6795]

James can imagine a lot

[@everfreshlove]

Zakir hussain did a great job! He was focused and to the point. He stayed consistent. Dr. White was did not respond to the arguments of Zakir. Dr.White played more on emotions. Zakir made a forceful case. Awesome!

[@Jomare-j3b]

White mixed his statements with emotion. He preached as he taught. He addressed almost all Hussain’s arguments

[@exposemyfoes]

MahshaALLAH zakir hussain was on fire, he totally demolished white, now this is what i love to see

[@jackjill3205]

Interesting

[@ColoniaMurder20]

on Holy Bible beware of false prophet.

[@wesamalshaif]

As Salaamu 'alaikum...man brother zakir was amazing Sub7aan Allaah...I hope some of the christians in the audience held Dr.White accountable for all the points he ignored...You should set up another debate with Zakir and someone like David Wood or something In Shaa Allaah...

[@sotem3608]

There actually is a debate with zakir and David.

[@gunner23]

Woah James White is a beast. Props to his opponent and MDI for hosting the debate.

[@exposemyfoes]

and he exploded when zakir burned him

[@stagv6282]

Dr. White .. well done... way to go..

[@SamiZaatari]

Good debate from Zakir, this was his first debate in such a manner, and so that is impressive.

[@TheCynicogue]

Does Zakir Hussain still debate?

[@kingsakoura6241]

Yes he will have a debate about the same subject in a few months. You can find him on twitter

[@atajoseph]

Well done Dr James white!! All glory to the one and only Triune God YHWH.

[@YoYo-ze2bp]

can u imagine a god that doesn't speak from his own authority?

[@Jamesjacob339]

@@YoYo-ze2bp where does it say that?

[@YoYo-ze2bp]

@@Jamesjacob339 John 16:13, ESV: ''When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come." james white claims this is speaking about the holy spirit. isn't the holy spirit god? how can god not speak on his own authority? this is surely speaking about a man. here's zakir asking james white: 1:50:16 here's james's emotional, non-response response: 2:01:00 i swear this is not a response. james got stuck and started preaching.

[@Jamesjacob339]

@@YoYo-ze2bp It is not talking about Muhammad the holy spirit is the divine power of God what all he heard from God he will guide us.

[@YoYo-ze2bp]

@@Jamesjacob339 is the holy spirit god? if u'r a trinitarian, ur in a big problem. how can god not speak from his own authority? this is absurd. it is surely about the prophet (pbuh).

[@speaktruthinlove119]

I appreciate the muslims willing to debate formally. and i think james white handled this very well. hats off to the participants.

[@giggsy11united]

+speaktruth inlove Muslims MUST do dawah, since it is one of the ways they get the most literal points that they need to accumulate to try to balance the scales to earn their 'salvation'. That is one reason that they are all over social media like here, as well...to spread Islam, so that they can gain more points toward a tragic delusional belief that if they can do more good than bad, they MIGHT gain paradise...only after still having to spend at least some time in 'the fire'. Imagine the sense of burden.....not for others, but for themselves.

[@kaiseruhl]

Question for muslims who think Muhammad is in Song of Solomon. In Chapter 5 v:1-9 the one speaking is the one that is believed by muslims to be Muhammad. In verse 1 it says "I have drunk my wine and my milk." The bride who speaks from verse 10 to 16 supposedly identifies Muhammad in verse 16. How could it be Muhammad if he was drinking wine. Wine is haram in Islam. Also, the book in several spots talks about wine, usually in a positive way. I think this poses a problem for the muslims position.

[@ELIMN-8]

salam bro,,u kicked it big time akhi,,excellent

[@jasonbabilonia3037]

i see the messiah in Jesus from scripture, but I'm having trouble seeing Muhammad.

[@abubakrmala4553]

Jason Babilonia if that was the case the Jews would have believed Jesus was the massiah

[@lionabbass]

if your inner eyes were open, you would have seen the holy prophet {SA].

[@specialtv8320]

Jason Go and read Isaiah 42v1-13 you would find his prophecy

[@williamjames4031]

@@lionabbass nope, Muhammed is not in the Bible because the Bible teaches the diety of Jesus Christ.

[@lionabbass]

@@williamjames4031 the Jews that are the custodians of the old testament will disagree with you that the old testament part of the Bible teaches about deity of Jesus but Yahweh, alone. It is well documented what I said above. It is also well documented that the Jewish body practiced paganism. So I am not surprised if I go by your opinion that Jesus was seen as God by Paul and those gospel writers, especially John that emphasized that in his gospel since paganism of the helenistic world bolds with so many forms of paganism the Jewish people practiced for example after they saw pharaoh and his army perished. Remember the Jews built a Yahweh for themselves as golden calf? I can say without mincing word that each time they refuse to follow prophet AS of God, that itself was idolatry. Lying on a prophet AS ignoring that God permitted on him AS is idolatry. Are 3 Gods hurdles up in Trinity better or as God as when 1 God is what everyone used to know and completed Islam stands on this without ascribing neither family nor partner to Him? When you broke up Trinity to it's parts, did the God not the Master of both holy ghost and Jesus that were messengers and servants, even to the point the holy ghost is the one helping/supporting Jesus? Please let us reflect and use the inner eye to see the truth because lying against God will definitely not profit the liar on the Day of Judgement.

[@as680783]

Really enjoyed watching this debate again. Zakir is an excellent upcoming debater, but he spends a lot of time building straw men, making interpolations, and trying to compact so many points into just a few minutes. I can't see how anybody: Christian, Muslim, Jew, agnostic, spiritualist, Hindu, Sikh, or atheist can remotely honestly suggest that Dr White did not easily win this debate. To say otherwise is being disrespectful to both speakers. Zakir has probably well improved since this early debate of his career, but he really was on a learning curve to go against James. He did well to go the distance though, and I give him credit for that.

[@rustykrusty3098]

Zakir was terrible

[@omnitrix152]

This was his first debate and he pretty much drew with James white, and yeah he did improve, watch his second debate where he demolished cross-dresser Wood.

[@nicerperson1]

"he pretty much drew with James white" no he didn't, all of his points were thoroughly refuted, he was at a schoolboy level debating a professor. I tell you what, just give me ONE POINT Zakir made that was not refuted. JUST ONE - and if you can't, then it shows you are biased because Zakir is a Muslim and you are not concerned with the truth. *_So go ahead_*

[@as680783]

+niceperson Hi there. Was your question directed to omnitrix152 or myself?

[@nicerperson1]

omnitrix152 More proof that Islam is from the Devil, you need to be saved, you are a mouthpiece for your Satanic spirit.

[@trevorjones7995]

great stuff man i can t believe james can t see the truth after all that he said no contest at all bro.....

[@dqschannel]

What do you mean? You try to say Muhammad is in bible?

[@aaaronobaid3571]

@@dqschannel zakie showed that part of these verses are explianed in different context depending on the gospel, so what did zakir do wrong?

[@dqschannel]

@@aaaronobaid3571 his mistake was trying to prove Muhammad is in bible.😂

[@dqschannel]

@@aaaronobaid3571 John 14.17 kills all chances of it being Muhammad.

[@aaaronobaid3571]

@@dqschannel ok so appearantly, the other verses we should also TAKE LITERRALY word for word Matthew 28:19-20. these verses is that Jesus tells his disciples that he is always with them so he is still with them? even when he died, got crucified?

[@C0oli0F0oli0]

I just began watching Zakir's debates today and MAN, he is one intelligent guy. He knows what he's talking about, I've watched many James White Debates, and the stuff he throws out most of it are inaccurate, that even Christians cant agree with him...

[@MirroringTruth]

Point10 1:07:45 ZSaid: Dr White said this comforter will be forever but then thats subject to interpretation because this could be a figure of speech... Reply: Zakir fails to understand Jesus saying in Joh 16:25 "These things I have spoken to you in figurative language; It's not that everything hes said is figurative, but the things he said in Joh 16:16 were confusing to the disciples and Christ even notes this in Joh 16:19. The "thing" (spoken to you in figurative) is clearly defined

[@exposemyfoes]

shall i tell you what is even funnier? its that Bart Ehrman absolutely demolished white without mercy, so how is it that white debating ehrman somehow is a refutation to zakirs use of ehrman,this shows your very foolish

[@Nick-davis]

I have never seen Dr White lose a debate. Absolutely fantastic job

[@azad1718]

Nick Davis James White is a professional deceiver avoiding verses of bible that deny any divinity to Jesus but confuse people with his own interpretation and ambiguous verses of latest bible specially John to keep his business of selling Jesus for dollars. He always evade question by saying things irrelevant to questions. That is not winning debate that avoiding and evading

[@lionabbass]

james sucked you in, too? you can see from miles away that he thinks he knows everything. people like that, their position is not always correct. he was aloof in that debate. the young man out classed him.

[@deeharris_4350]

So zakir proved Muhammad is in the Bible? The same Bible that muslims also say isn’t the word of God ? Where exactly is he prophesied?

[@deeharris_4350]

@Akmal Master I’m not sure about islam but I believe in respecting ALL others even Muslims so I ask that you do the same The topic of debate was is Muhammad prophesied in the Bible.. Zakir couldn’t prove it meaning he lost the debate. If you don’t need the Bible to prove Islam then the quran shouldn’t say Muhammad is in our scriptures. Wake up brother. *God bless*

[@deeharris_4350]

@Akmal Master so you can’t show where Muhammad is in the Bible either?

[@Allaahuakkbar]

Zakir Hussain won the debate Alhamdulila :-)

[@shameemalam4837]

welcome brother

[@seanavp]

+Kanuni Sultan Suleyman, Zakir Hussain is on life support.

[@unitedsoulsnetwork2619]

Oh really he won..John 5:46"For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me." Moses was not speaking about Muhammad 🤣🤣🤣 Case closed!!!

[@SmoothGrooove]

I understand your point. I believe all sides need to understand the proper context of the texts they are interpreting. The bottomline is that hopefully, religions can agree to disagree without the hate and this was a great example of two sides just trying to get a better understanding or defend their faiths without ending up in a fight. The passion was there and you have to leave it up to each individual to choose who they believe.

[@iamnat3744]

❤

[@megamanxcold5]

It would have been better if the slides were clearly shown, do you guys have any idea where to get Zakir's slides and is that Sami Zaatari at 1:12:12 ? Haven't seen him in a very long time

[@omnitrix152]

Yeah he lives in london.

[@megamanxcold5]

omnitrix152 is he still active these days? I honestly haven't seen him on any website or debate for years, the last activity of him on his channel was him playing MGSV

[@omnitrix152]

Egypt Man no he dont debate anymore, his last one i think was in 2012, but he did put a video on his youtube channel talking about something a year back, check it out. His first debate he won with flying colours i believe, he got worse as years went by

[@megamanxcold5]

omnitrix152 he seems to be still active on twitter, his last tweet was just 4 hours ago and his last 2 youtube videos were on MGSV were posted 7 months ago and before it is a refutation of ISIS and Sam Harris. I think he might be back after a long pause, he had a almost 2 year break after he made his alien abduction video. Nevertheless, I hope to see him back or at least back to writing articles, I really like his writing style

[@omnitrix152]

Egypt Man he was good, his debate was with cross-dresser Wood and i think he won that one

[@tornado1789]

I think br Zakir has done a very good job. He used the same method that christians use to prove that Jesus was prophesied in OT. James the satanic arrogant man was just mocking He didn't provide sense refutations for the following Blessing of Ishmael Becca and how jewish interpreters interpreted that passage The prophet like Moses Song of Solomon with it own context

[@zaditranin4147]

Let's be honest and objective. Zakir lost this debate square and fair. His arguments were too weak... made up of pieces and bits. Nothing coherent and solid. He clearly got disproved and refuted on every single point he tried to make. James White is a Champ!!!!

[@robinwagner9578]

tornado 1 Naik don't know what he talking about. because Muhammad is a 7st centuries prophet. and the Torah is the oldest testament and 2 to 3 st centuries and Bible sec older is 3 to 4st centuries is mix with the old testament and new testament and Revelation. and the Hebrew people have been in war and slaves to their enemy in those centuries. and the enemy has a different faith then Hebrew and they believe in a different gods and goddesses . and if a Muslim person said that there religion been here way past Adam then they are lying because when god himself has made Adam and Eve there were no religion at that time

[@niloykhan8215]

Matthew 12 verse 38 to 40. it is not according to mark.

[@robinwagner9578]

Niloy Khan Well 1# your Muhammad has proof himself that he was talking to Satan who Make him killed himself And drank dirty water with dead dog and women period and God knows what in that nasty water Even his own follower have to wonder about him Well if Quran was not that then write the parts that is clean. And about that mark 12:38 to 40 yes he did fulfilled it It just didn't know about Muhammad .

[@marksplsdavidwoodcometosie6214]

So james white is an arrogant man what about ur father

[@exposemyfoes]

white did not win this one, he got refuted on every single point and was shown to be inconsistent, he got a taste of his own medicine in this debate

[@Allaahuakkbar]

Zakir Hussain practically defeated James White :-)

[@crippledtalk]

Kanuni Sultan Suleyman seriously?! how Mr,hussan took the "old scriptures"--many passages out of context..did dr.white do the same with the hadith? or the suras?! did Dr. white misuse idiom.. like hussan?

[@barakoniner1644]

Kanuni Sultan Suleyman hahahahahhaha I guess u listened to zuqueer then shut off the vid when James was talking . James shut down zukirs entire opening. EVERY VERSE HE QUOTED. What vid were you watching

[@tudungsenduk]

You cannot compare those two verses. Different structure. "His palate is sweetness(noun)". That makes sense and is not lost in translation. It means his words are pleasant(interpretation) Anyway the whole purpose is to show that James White lied or he blinded the audience. Thanks for your time.

[@exposemyfoes]

Notice all you christians are slandering zakir and calling his arguments weak,yet not one of you christians have posted a single response to any of his points,these debates are not about winning or losing,its about sparking discussion for both sides to analyse the arguments

[@iliaschannel3646]

lool in 2:01:00 , james white couldn't answer the fact that the holly spirit (God) is taught what to say , ... so he gave an emotional answer that God loves him... so desperate answer mr white .

[@iliaschannel3646]

@Society of Light 2:01:00

[@iliaschannel3646]

@Society of Light yes he was talking about the Holy Spirit being taught he was answering John 16:13 " But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. this is why zakir asked dr white to explain how the holly spirit ( God) will not speak on his authaurity.. and Dr white.. his answer was God loves me .

[@iliaschannel3646]

@Society of Light i disagree with you bro , Dr white has much time to answer this question , take a look on 1:09:11 .. when zakir asked him about the holly spirit being taught what to say ... you're welcome .

[@iliaschannel3646]

@Society of Light John 16:13 was so important point because according to muslims the comforter is Muhammed (pbuh).. and for christians the comforter is the holly spirit that's why zakir asked his question multiple times to Dr white to explain how the holly spirit is being taught what to say (if the comforter is really the holly spirit).... the question was so relevent with the topic and it has nothing to do with trinity. yes i do understand there were many issues , but Dr white was able to answer that one in one or some sentences instead of saying God loves me wich had nothing to do with the question . if you notice , Zakir has answered all the points raised by Dr white , he gave even proves and references of his answers .

[@iliaschannel3646]

@Society of Light yeah that's why i understood that james white got traped , because you christians believe that the three are one.. and here , one of the trinity is being taught by another one.. for me this question has not any answer except "hierarchy" that's white Dr white avoided it . moreoever i can't understand how it is the holly spirit .. if you notice the verse , "He" is repeated many times , wich mean the sprit of truth has gender , he is a man ..... the holly spirit is spirit he should be called "it".

[@zaditranin4147]

Let's be honest and objective. Zakir lost this debate square and fair. His arguments were too weak... made up of pieces and bits. Nothing coherent and solid. He clearly got disproved and refuted on every single point he tried to make. James White is a Champ!!!!

[@tyrionlannister8]

Zadi Tranin lol the argument of trees from Mecca is a solid and coherent argument? This is how far you have to stretch to prove that Muhammad was in the Bible. Muslims don’t understand what Christians are saying and they just apply an Islamic interpretation on the Bible. Muslim apologetics in a nutshell

[@tyrionlannister8]

ramazan tanbi He gave the argument about the Song of Solomon. If you know Hebrew, you know that it’s a word play and the word is similar to Muhammad but it is describing Solomon. Every Jewish rabbi completely debunks it. Muhammad was never in the old and new testaments. He wasn’t a prophet.

[@tyrionlannister8]

SAIM TANWEER rabbis know how to speak Hebrew and they know the context of the Old Testament and the song of Hebrews. If you read Hebrew, it is clearly not talking about Mohammad. I mentioned rabbis not because their view on Jesus, but the fact that they speak Hebrew and they know the Old Testament inside and out. The New Testament was written mostly in Greek and the Greek is very specific in its pro nouns and how it is applied to describe Jesus’s nature and who he was. The claims the Muslims make about Mohammad being prophesied are based on flimsy and flawed arguments. Mostly having to do with the fact that they don’t know grammar and lack context in the old and New Testament. It’s one thing to quote from a text and apply it to yourself. It’s another if you don’t even speak the language and completely butcher the context and grammar of what is said. This is evidence that Mohammad falsely applied this text to himself and is a false prophet.

[@tyrionlannister8]

SAIM TANWEER If Jesus was not what he claimed he was, why were the rabbis trying to stone him to death? Why were they trying so hard to kill him when he says “Before Abraham, I am”. They knew this saying was Jesus equating himself with God the father. This is not simply fitting Descriptions to Jesus without a firm basis. Also, the debate centers on the word Paracletos and how you think that Raymond Brown concedes to the untranslated version of the word. It is true that Raymond Brown leaves the word untranslated in his rendition of the Biblical text. However, it is NOT true that he calls translating the word as "Comforter", "Counselor", or "Advocate" inaccurate. He confirms the validity of those translations, but states that the range of meaning is broader than any of those words can represent and therefore leaves it as Paraclete after having explained the meaning. However, "Prophet" is not among the possible translations suggested by Brown. I am sure Shabir Ally would have told us, if it were so. We tell you that it is not so. On whose authority among those many "noted Biblical scholars" is Shabir Ally going to base his own suggestion that parakletos means prophet? He will not find one. If Shabir Ally has indeed consulted several noted Biblical scholars as he seems to claim in his statement, and sought to understand their commentary on the term parakletos, why does he then go on to contradict all of them by choosing a translation not supported by any of them? Also, if Jesus said that he will ask the father and he will send another one to testify of him and that he will be with you forever, and that he dwells in you (mind you, he was speaking to the disciples directly) how does this refer to a man who comes 600 years after? No, it simply doesn’t make sense. Jesus had to be talking about the Holy Spirit. He was talking directly to the disciples and was not talking about a man who comes later. “And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another [e]Helper, that He may abide with you forever- 17the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you. 18I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you.”

[@tyrionlannister8]

SAIM TANWEER Also, you shouldn’t liken me to a so-called Christian who believes in “claimed to be prophets” such as Manus of Persia and so on...

[@DivinityHades]

Loved it💕 Well played zakir bro

[@Tazkia-Tasawwuf]

Please why is bro Zakir Hussain? I really need answer. I have heard of him for long.

[@tudungsenduk]

Yes akhi, from the comment of Christians here they do not know what is going on. It is so easy to refute James White and his arguments

[@covenantofthebook6795]

James thinks that jesus thought of himself as a despised worm 😂😂😂😂

[@tudungsenduk]

Well done Zakir. You stand unrefuted.

[@Urimi12.]

Your Videos Are Great !

[@333payaso]

And according to the qur'an allah saved Jesus from his enemies, why did allah not save muhammad from the poison and let him die in agony(like the aorta was cut off)????????????

[@333payaso]

Ewan McGregor Honestly, either you are a LIAR(capital letters), or you have not read your books(Hadith/Quran)??, Now which is it??? Based on what you stated above I will show you what I wrote was based on your Hadith/Quran, AND YOU HAVE TO SHOW ME WHERE IN THE HADITH/QURAN SAY WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT JESUS AND MUHAMMAD: To make your search easy, I will show where in the Hadith(8 placese, I can have more if you want) say, what I said: 1-How Muhammad died based on the Hadith("Sahih Bukhari”. This Hadith is considered to be the most important Islamic book, after the Quran.) A1 From Bukhari's Hadith 3.786: Narrated Anas bin Malik: A Jewess brought a poisoned (cooked) sheep for the Prophet who ate from it. She was brought to the Prophet and he was asked, "Shall we kill her?" He said, "No." I continued to see the effect of the poison on the palate of the mouth of Allah's Apostle. A2 From Bukhari's Hadith 4.394: Narrated Abu Huraira: When Khaibar was conquered, a roasted poisoned sheep was presented to the Prophet as a gift (by the Jews). The Prophet ordered, "Let all the Jews who have been here, be assembled before me." The Jews were collected and the Prophet said (to them), "I am going to ask you a question. Will you tell the truth?" They said, "Yes." The Prophet asked, "Who is your father?" They replied, "So-and-so." He said, "You have told a lie; your father is so-and-so." They said, "You are right." He said, "Will you now tell me the truth, if I ask you about something?" They replied, "Yes, O Abu Al-Qasim; and if we should tell a lie, you can realize our lie as you have done regarding our father." On that he asked, "Who are the people of the (Hell) Fire?" They said, "We shall remain in the (Hell) Fire for a short period, and after that you will replace us." The Prophet said, "You may be cursed and humiliated in it! By Allah, we shall never replace you in it." Then he asked, "Will you now tell me the truth if I ask you a question?" They said, "Yes, O Abu Al-Qasim." He asked, "Have you poisoned this sheep?" They said, "Yes." He asked, "What made you do so?" They said, "We wanted to know if you were a liar in which case we would get rid of you, and if you are a prophet then the poison would not harm you." A3 From Ibn Sa'd page 249: Verily a Jewish woman presented poisoned (meat of) a she goat to the apostle of Allah. He took a piece form it, put it into his mouth, chewed it and threw it away. Then he said to the Companions: "Halt! Verily, its leg tells me that it is poisoned." Then he sent for the Jewish woman and asked her; "What induced you to do what you have done?" She replied, "I wanted to know if you are true; in that case Allah will surely inform you, and if you are a liar I shall relieve the people of you." A4 From Ibn Sa'd page 249: [different narrator] The apostle of Allah and his companions ate from it. It (goat) said: "I am poisoned." He [Muhammad] said to his Companions, "Hold you hands! because it has informed me that it is poisoned!" They withdrew their hands, but Bishr Ibn al-Bara expired. The apostle of Allah sent for her (Jewess) and asked her, "What induced you to do what you have done?" She replied, "I wanted to know if you are a prophet, in that case it will not harm you and if you are a king, I shall relieve the people of you. He gave orders and she was put to death. [SEE NOTE 1] A5 From Ibn Sa'd page 250: [different narrator] Verily a woman of the Jews of Khaibar presented poisoned (meat of) goat to the apostle of Allah. The he recognized that it was poisoned, so he sent for her and asked her, "What induced you to do what you have done?" She replied, "I thought if you are a prophet, Allah will inform you, and if you are a pretender, I shall relieve people of you. When the apostle of Allah felt sick, he got himself "cupped". [SEE NOTE 2] A6 From Ibn Sa'd pages 251, 252: [different narrator] ....When the apostle of Allah conquered Khaibar and he had peace of mind, Zaynab Bint al-Harith the brother of Marhab, who was the spouse of Sallam Ibn Mishkam, inquired, "Which part of the goat is liked by Muhammad?" They said, "The foreleg." Then she slaughtered one from her goats and roasted it (the meat). Then she wanted a poison which could not fail. .... The apostle of Allah took the foreleg, a piece of which he put into his mouth. Bishr took another bone and put it into his mouth. When the apostle of Allah ate one morsel of it Bishr ate his and other people also ate from it. Then the apostle of Allah said, "Hold back your hands! because this foreleg; ...informed me that it is poisoned. Thereupon Bishr said, "By Him who has made you great! I discovered it from the morsel I took. Nothing prevented me from emitting it out, but the idea that I did not like to make your food unrelishing. When you had eaten what was in your mouth I did not like to save my life after yours, and I also thought you would not have eaten it if there was something wrong. Bishr did not rise form his seat but his color changed to that of "taylsan" (a green cloth)..........The apostle of Allah sent for Zaynab and said to her, "What induced you to do what you have done?" She replied, "You have done to my people what you have done. You have killed my father, my uncle and my husband, so I said to myself, "If you are a prophet, the foreleg will inform you; and others have said, "If you are a king we will get rid of you.""...... The apostle of Allah lived after this three years till in consequence of his pain he passed away. During his illness he used to say, "I did not cease to find the effect of the (poisoned) morsel, I took at Khaibar and I suffered several times (from its effect) but now I feel the hour has come of the cutting of my jugular vein." A7 From Tabari Volume 8, page 123, 124: When the messenger of God rested from his labor, Zaynab bt. al-Harith, the wife of Sallam b. Mishkam, served him a roast sheep. She had asked what part of the sheep the messenger of God liked best and was told that it was the foreleg. So she loaded that part with poison, and she poisoned the rest of the sheep too. Then she brought it. When she set it before the messenger of God, he took the foreleg and chewed a bit of it, but he did not swallow it. With him was Bishr b. al-Bara b. Marur, who, like the messenger of God, took some of it; Bishr, however, swallowed it, while the messenger of God spat it out saying, "This bone informs me that it has been poisoned." He asked, "What led you to do this?" She said: "How you have afflicted my people is not hidden from you. So I said, "If he is a prophet, he will be informed; but if he is a king, I shall be rid of him"". The prophet forgave her. Bishr died of the food he had eaten. A8 From Tabari Volume 8, page 124: [different narrator] The messenger of God said during the illness from which he died - the mother of Bishr had come in to visit him - "Umm Bishr, at this very moment I feel my aorta being severed because of the food I ate with your son at Khaybar." [See NOTE 3] NOW IT IS YOUR TIME TO ANSWER TO THE WORLD AND ME WHERE IN THE QURAN OR HADITH SAY: A-That Muhammand died of old Age??? B-That Jesus name was changed to be the same as Zeus(Greek God)?? IF YOU CAN NOT QUOTE YOUR QURAN/HADITH, the you are ANOTHER LIER WAITING FOR YOUR RESPOND

[@333payaso]

Ewan McGregor I FORGOT WHERE IN THE QURAN/HADITH SAY THAT THE PERSON CRUCIFIED WAS JUDAS???????????????? WAITING FOR YOUR RESPONDS

[@333payaso]

Ewan McGregor I and the world still waiting for you to answer my points. I challenged you to respond, or you are a LIER. I pointed where in the hadith say how Muhammad die(I quoted more than 6 places), so right now you are a liar, unless you can quote your books where it says what you said.

[@333payaso]

Ewan McGregor Are you going to ignore my questions/points to you after you make so many lies. If you are not a Liar, just show us where in your books does it say that1-) Muhammad died of old age and fever 2-)where does it says that Jesus name was changed to Zeus(a greek God), I showed you where in your books say that Muhammad die(poisoned), Now stop hidding and answer that. OR I JUST CALL YOUR LIES AND YOU HAVE NO ANSWERS AND THAT IS WHY YOU ARE POSTING OTHERS POINTS???????? YOU ARE A JOKE, UNTIL YOU PROVE ME WRONG BY SHOWING WHERE IN YOUR BOOKS SAY WHAT YOU SAID

[@Imran-fc2qh]

Where is your proof that Jesus is crucified? Why his name is Jesus and not Isa.

[@itakeudown]

Think: No creation equals no people. No people equals no parents to be born from. Once again, “Glorify me with the glory that I had with you BEFORE creation.” In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God.

[@EmamMuhammedd]

7:28 AM +Josh Ramirez said in error +Emam Muhammedd "Take now your son, your only son, whom you love, Isaac -Genesis 22:2 BOOM. That comment destroyed ahaha" 786 U are anything except reasonable so i don't expect U to accept the truth which is Prophet Abraham had 2 sons Ismael who was born 1st by His 2nd wife which clearly illustrate the Bible has errors in it since it clearly point out that statement can only apply to Ismael.

[@EmamMuhammedd]

***** 786 The Covenant is between ALLAH MOST HIGH and Abraham's seed, Ismael is the 1st seed.

[@EmamMuhammedd]

***** 786 #1 Prophet Ismael is a seed of Abraham so He is a beneficiary automatically of the Covenant between ALLAH MOST HIGH and Prophet Abraham. #2 Gen. 17:20 The Covenant mentioned specifically.

[@exposemyfoes]

wow, i'm apostating right now,thank u for informing me

[@purdess2.040]

Zakir won easily, doesn’t matter if white outspoke him lol. Factually zakir refuted everything.

[@FreshEnergyPaul]

Question: I just did a cross check of Songs of Solomon 5:17 and according to Strong's Concordance 'Mahammadim' is a noun. See biblehub.com/interlinear/songs/5-16.htm Dr. White has asserted that Mahammadim in this verse is an adjective. Zakir countered saying it is a noun, then Dr. White re-asserted that it is an adjective. Is the above link incorrect? If not, I would like to know what Dr. White's justification is for asserting that it is an adjective. Also, would like to know why commenters as well as Dr. White read this word as 'Machmad' but then they refer to the Islamic prophet as 'Mohammad'. The Hebrew spelling of the root word in Songs is the Semitic equivalent to the Arabic spelling of Mohammad, therefore they should be pronounced the same way. No need to try to distort the pronunciation to make them sound different. To be fair, if you want to read the word in Song of Songs as Machmad, then you should also call the Islamic prophet Machmad.

[@giggsy11united]

+phart010 OOOOPS...you say this because you know nothing about Hebrew constructs in sentences....here is a link that clarifies why, when a noun and adjective are inseparably linked together, they stand as a distinct grammatical UNIT, so when adjectives are combined with nouns as a UNIT THEY ARE CLASSIFIED AS NOUNS, while SEPARATELY , as an adjective. www.hebrew4christians.com/Grammar/Unit_Five/Adj_Word_Pairs/adj_word_pairs.html

[@giggsy11united]

+phart010 ...also the phonetical similarity is the ONLY similarity, and machmad IS CORRECT as the ROOT WORD, which is an an adjective. Transliterated in its GRAMMATICAL UNIT, it is mahamadim....you call Muhammad , Muhammad because that is hus name, and mahamadim, mahamadim, because that is the HEBREW phonetically SIMILAR word, which is the ONLY similarity that it has with the NAME Muhammad. Its combined meaning, in its GRAMMATICAL UNIT is altogether lovely, and its subject is the lover in SOS...zero relation to a 7th century , pagan, self appointed 'prophet' in any sense, no matter how hard it is manipulatively attempted.

[@giggsy11united]

+greg william James White is a true scholar, and has studied Greek and Hebrew, so when he says things like this, it is not loosely or carelessly, and debates don't allow time for such explanations as I have given you. I have debated muslims for 7 years, and without wanting to be denigrating, if you feel the need t check up on someon's statement, it will most likely involve claims by muslims that need to be validated. Islam has a very consistent pattern of literally fabricating evidence. For example, Ahmed Deedat used to deliberately lie about a Greek word that he claimed was in John's gospel, but it not only was never there, it was never used in ALL of the Bible. He did so, on the very same basis as this argument is fabricated by muslims due to a PONRTIC similarity, and its meaning that ;fit' their need. He literally changed the word paracletos, which is found in EVERY GRREK Manuscript, and means advocate/comforter/helper to periclytos, which means famous or renowned one. WHY DID HE LIE LIKE THAT....because he NEEDED it to be true, since the quran states that Muhammad is prophesied in the Bible, and famous one or renowned one is a title attributed to Muhammad. There is not ONE actual reference to Muhammad, so they keep desperately tryin to force it into passages like this....because the credibility od Islam is at stake.....and in the balance, it s left wanting. Not only is there zero allusions to Muhammad, the fact that muslims literally , deliberately attempt to manufacture one destroys their credibility scholastically and morally since they literally make up their 'evidences'.

[@Faith-Ministries]

um, there is no 5:17, I'll assume you meant 5:16....The ENTIRE 5th chapter is the wives of soloman describing there husband, My goodness are you that desperate..

[@soCernunnos]

Exodus 3:1-3 Now Moses was tending the flock of Jethro his father-in-law, the priest of Midian, and he led the flock to the far side of the wilderness and came to Horeb, the mountain of God. 2 There the angel of the LORD appeared to him in flames of fire from within a bush. Moses saw that though the bush was on fire it did not burn up. 3 So Moses thought, “I will go over and see this strange sight-why the bush does not burn up.” Any further questions?

[@joekazama]

Dr White did an excellent job. Zakir made some points that sounded great but there wasn't much substance to them. I'm Christian so I am biased. But for future debates I think zakir should take his time with his rebuttals. It seems he speaks faster during his rebuttals than in his opening statements.

[@TheGEOPOLITICIANGUY]

Most certainly either an explicit or implicit bias, but I get it - Because when I was first doing research and watching these debates long ago, where I was biased on the sense that both these men were “loons”, I just needed much information and polemics to wrote my papers….. BUT I WAS THE OPPOSITE OF AN ATHEIST- and though ALL RELIGIONS were man made to me yaydayadya due to our natural inclination that this peculiar thing called life is certainly NOT “random” and its the human condition to find the answers and the fear of death, thus various religions are created. And sadly, I thought it was all bonkers why certainly a necessary existent MUST BE. All the while, still believing that this world is just the start, and our deeds will make a difference when we died Well years ago while writing more academic papers always had a interest in Theology, though I am Historian Major (now on my way to a PhD btw in Geopolitics and the Near East) but back then I chose all theological electives as a upcoming scholar Over time of watching these various debates - gaining info - I was actually (sad to say) very surprised of what was being done in these debates, time and TIME again (substance itself ai had to admit was at least thereI and was like “this Islam thing has something to it” but could not get myself take it serious still, but I could not put my finger on it Before you knew it - After reading the Torah and half the books outside the Torah of the OT and essentially ALL OF THE NT….I eventually did the ol’ “screw it” thing, and bought a Qur’an. A point/“screw it situation” that changed my life forever. I read the Qur’an and that WAAS IT. Welp, I read the Qur’an (in fact, I could not put it down) and reverted as soon as I finished (might sound impulsive, but it all made sense) - there was and still is something about that book FAR BEFORE i knew Arabic which makes it 10x better wherein you will notice this was not made by some random Arab. This is just not human in a very hard to explain way…. THIS WALL BEFORE I FOUND all the scientific and mathamtical miracles EMBEDDED THROUGHOUT the Quran (that will blow you mind) and not until I heard Arabic later did I realize the greagest miraclec the languge emdded in the Quran itself, its LITERALLY foreign and impossible to recreate but you would need to know (learn) Arabic to understand that miracle ?no wonder Allah says make a surah iike it if u disbelieve (a challenege to those Qurashi after Muhammad) and then brings dow. to JUST ONE AYAH (verse) make one like it - back when I understood english only I never saw tge true true challenge in it though the book was sooo on point …. but now that i know Arabic, no it is IMPOSSIBLE - that is why (literally) no one CAN make a Surah (chapter) like it.

[@3litemongoose]

Lmao that was awesome "you quote Bart Erhman? I debated Bart Erhman" like a damn boss

[@azad1718]

3lite Crusader I saw debate between James whites and Bart Erman . James White was defeated and crucified by Bart Erman . James White responded to dr Bart Erman as sir and spoke like cat because he knows bible far less than Bart Erman

[@hippiekarl7]

@@azad1718 The interesting thing is that Erhman thinks Islam ~and~ Christianity are both stupid....yet, in these debates, it's always the Muslim who wants to cite/quote him for their purpose (seemingly ignorant that the same 'argument' they're using against their Christian opponent is equally applicable to their own belief and 'holy book'). Shabir Ally (my favorite stand-up comedian) seems to do this more than anyone else... At least Dr. White aknowledges that Erhman and his arguments (from the position of atheist presuppositions) are exactly as 'effective' against Islam as they are Christianity. That's why he not only refuses to use them against Muslims in debate, but refutes their selective use by Muslims against Christianity (and that's why it's germane to have mentioned that not only doesn't he quote him in theistic discussions, but that he *debated* him on these very issues). BTW, Dr. White is ~always~ polite and deferential in these debates; even when his Muslim opponents interrupt/deflect/talk over him through both cross-exams (as we ALL have seen, over and over!). You should get out more, I think. Only a hard-core atheist materialist could imagine Bart didn't get ~creamed~ in his debate with James White.

[@Veritas-dq2hs]

@@hippiekarl7 you're absolutely delusional if you think any Muslim has been disrespectful to White or any other Christian apologist.. it is pretty much always the Christian apologists who are disrespectful. White, however, is not one of those.

[@dtrez3866]

James white is one of the few people that can handle bart ehrman.

This is exactly what I expected. Dr. White presented a scholarly approach and Mr. Hussain grabbed verses out of context that might apply. If Hussain wants to know the type of prophet Muhammad needs to be in order to match Moses, he needs to read Deuteronomy 34:10-11. Did Muhammad perform signs and miracles? The only miracle he claimed was the Quran, but that is not the kind of miracles Moses performed. I think Christ raising people from the dead and healing the sick is more of a miracle that can be viewed by the people than the alleged miracle of the Quran.

[@ayoubmiracles3316]

bcs u nvr read Quran .. Quran is not just lengends like other books not just nation's history .. scientists r still studying it and get amazed .. ab the other prophets all were giving gifts from God according to their nations .. moses had that stick turned to a big snake cuz his nation were famous by sorceres so he made them surrender to the one God. ** the nation of Jesus were good in Medicine so God gave him the gift of healing sick ppl and raising ppl from death and he made him speak in his cradle to defend his mother the 12 yo virgin Mary .. and solomon and Abraham had gifts too by will of God and all of them called for the One God and they were the Almighty messengers and servants and noone is better than the other !!! ** and verily words of Qur'an r words of God revealed to Muhammed. bcs in his nation were there masters of Arabic and also fortune-tellers so Qur'an was so clearly not poems and not words of the deceiving forturnetellers .. i give u some expls : ****** in Qur'an surat Fossilat verse 11 says : Then He directed Himself to the heaven while it was smoke.. this amazed Dr. Yoshihide Kozai is Professor Emeritus at Tokyo University, Hongo, Tokyo, Japan, and was the Director of the National Astronomical Observatory, Mitaka, Tokyo, Japan and he converted to Islam u know why !! bcs scientists didn't know that the sky was made of a smoke til they recently discovered after Having picked up a powerful satellite cameras images and vivid films show a star and is composed of a large block of dense smoke dark), then He added that our information earlier before these films and live images were based on erroneous theories that the sky was fog) and said this may be added to the miracles of the Qur'an amazing new miracle confirmed that, who told them is the God who created the universe billions of years ago) ... how Muhammed knew that !! ****** The Almighty said: (not those who disbelieve known that the heavens(sky) and the earth were sewn together) surat Al"anbiya verse 30 ... the Professor scientist were stunned in the Islamic Youth Conference held in Riyadh in 1979 by this cuz really was the early universe that is a nebulous cloud of smoke gas potential contiguous then turned gradually to the millions of millions of stars filled the sky. Then told the American Professor (Palmer), said that what was said can not in any way be attributed to a person who died 1400 years ago because he did not have telescopes and not space ships help to discover these facts, it must be, who told Muhammad is God and has announced Professor (Bob Palmer) his conversion to Islam at the end of the conference. **** The Almighty said: (and made from water every living thing ,do you not believe in) the Prophets 30: - And modern science has proven that any organism consists of a high proportion of the water of course like we r awre of this now .. and if he lost 25 % of its water, it inevitably will die because all chemical reactions within the cells of any living organism is not only in aqueous medium.from Where to Muhammad to know this medical information?? ***** The Almighty said: (and the sky we have built with might .Verily, We are Able to extend it ) Al dhariyat 47 .. And modern science has proved that the sky continuously increase the capacity ... did Muhammed have telescopes and satellites?! Or is it a revelation from God, the Creator of this great universe??? Is not this irrefutable evidence that the Qur'an is right??? **** u know when the woman gets a divorce she has to wait for 3 months then get married again or wtever .. so guess wt !! According to the story, a Jewish embryologist at the "Albert Einstein Institute" named Robert Gillham converted to Islam after discovering that a man's "imprint" remains with a woman he's slept with for three months afterwards. The story says that Gillham tested women for the existence of these "imprints" and discovered that many American women had imprints from multiple men, showing that they were promiscuous. He tested his wife and found out that she also had sex with other men, and in fact one of his three children was not his. But Muslim women that he tested were all faithful, according to the story. ***** The Almighty said: (The sun is running its course to its appointed place. That is the ordaining of the All-Mighty, the All-Knowing.) yassin 38 - And has proved by modern science that the sun traveling at 43200 miles per hour and as the distance between us and the sun 92 million miles, we see it fixed and does not move .. the scientist were surprised to hear the verse of the Qu'ran and said, a proffesor said :: I find it very difficult to imagine that science Quran which to achieve these scientific facts which have not been able only recently. ************** and manyyyyy other information God told us through a man that lived in a time when there was noway to know all this

[@megamanxcold5]

what you fail to realize that is the prophet Muhammad did perform miracles but like every visual miracle it is only for their time, Let's say for example I was a Israelite during the exodus and I saw the red sea being split I'll believe in Moses I'll tell the story to my children and they'll most likely believe it, I'll tell it to my grand children and they'll most likely believe it but somewhere along the line maybe in the 4th or 5th generation people will begin to doubt and question the authenticity of these miracles because of course they haven't seen them. But the Quran is the eternal miracle and it's not going anywhere and it's here for everybody to see. Even if some one could do miracles right in front of you you could just as easily quote Jesus saying that there will come many false prophets that will do wonder and miracles, but according to the bible the spirit (which is synonymous with prophet) confeth that Jesus is the Christ is of God, so according to your own bible you should accept muhammad as a prophet since he confeth that Jesus is the christ. Furthermore, Zakir did not rip verses out of context bu tin fact it was James White who ripped verses out of context, he purposefully mis-pronounces the word mohamed in the torah and he brings up words with the same tri-literal root even though the word Mohammadim only occurs once in the entire bible, and he couldn't refute him the prophet like moses, the mount of paran, song of solomon, 10,000 saints and much more. You said "I recently was told angels fly at light speed because they travel in one day what it takes us to travel in 50,000 years. Well, the numbers just don't add up. Plus it only takes 1000 years of our travel for our concerns to make it to heaven in one day. So which is is 1000 or 50000? Do the Angels take an indirect course? " I would like to know who you get this information from and besides when God is involved angles can definitely go anywhere instantly we have in sci-fi portals where people can go to edges of the universe in a second who says God cannot do a similar thing or something even greater than that? Plus, I do admit that there are verses of the Quran which seem very interesting but I do not claim that they are so to speak "scientific miracles" because science in its nature is forever changing plus we are imposing a meaning on the text that it may or may not have. You say that oh the Quran threatens people with hellfire and the Quran also promises rewards for people who do obey, you have to understand that with different people different methods are needed on the whole, God is basically scaring sinners straight, plus isn't this what happens in the old testament where God (also Jesus somehow) threaten to kill and in fact orders his people to kill even women and children? The only reason why it may seem that James won this debate is because James is a good orator while Zakir although having better arguments isn't as eloquent, if you really want to know the contrast watch these video highlight of the debate which prove that James was defeated and honestly if you still don't believe that Muhammad is in the bible then you're on your own bro kzbin.info/www/bejne/e4O6o2ipja6peck kzbin.info/www/bejne/epO9gJmeorGiaq8 kzbin.info/www/bejne/d4vGp56Gp9OsqJo but I prefer the song of solomon one.

[@ayoubmiracles3316]

Nunya that's why i gave u non Muslims expls and more r studying it and i dare u to give me one wrong verse that u r talking ab !! we don't change Qur'an verses like it suits us (like it's happening with the Bible verses) Qu'ran from decades is the same and Arabic is unchangeble language and actually it's more closer to hebrew so greec shouldn't argue at all .. and scientists found it exactly matching the scientific facts they r not stupid to let anyone manipulates them of course they wouldn't actually change their religion and belief according to other people explanations ! be realistic ! we r all here to learn to search for the truth right ! bcs all of the religions r ancients so noone from us were there when everything happened but is clearly and thanks to God we see miracles everyday and thank God we r believers .. now that great power who created everything some ppl actually r humiliating his Almighty .. when in Islam it says worship the creator in Christianity it says worship Jesus too and u give Jesus more glory than God .. u will tell me that Jesusis God and son of God in the same time well this is very wrong and it's in bible itself .. i spoke to priests and when actually u give him the embarassing verses in bible they panic and start to curse !! yup it's true orthodox priests say that Catholics r pagans and Protestants and Jehova's witnessess liars and u can imagine and u maybe know wt they call Muslims ... ab the split of the moon and NASA and Muslims lied !! it's NASA itself talked ab the rilles or the fissures on the moon and when muslims heard ab that they proposed the hadith talking ab the split of the moon ... check this and see urslef the rille apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap021029.html and of course u can check by uself more .. i quote for u :: What could cause a long indentation on the Moon? First discovered over 200 years ago with a small telescope, rilles (rhymes with pills) appear all over the Moon. Three types of rilles are now recognized: sinuous rilles, which have many meandering curves, arcuate rilles which form sweeping arcs, and straight rilles, like Ariadaeus Rille pictured above. Long rilles such as Ariadaeus Rille extend for hundreds of kilometers. Sinuous rilles are now thought to be remnants of ancient lava flows, but the origins of arcuate and linear rilles are still a topic of research. The above linear rille was photographed by the Apollo 10 crew in 1969 during their historic approach to only 14-kilometers above the lunar surface. Two months later, Apollo 11, incorporating much knowledge gained from Apollo 10, landed on the Moon. so there is a long rille they don't know wt caused it !! so they said :: linear rilles r still a topic of research and i'm sure if they prove that the moon splitted once the whole world will convert to Islam soo they will nvr admit ... there is a proof but they ignore it The incident relating to King Chakrawati Farmas is documented in an old manuscript in the India Office Library, London, which has reference number: Arabic, 2807, 152-173 i quote for u :: “There is a very old tradition in Malabar, South-West Coast of India, that Chakrawati Farmas, one of their kings, had observed the splitting of the moon, the celebrated miracle of the Holy Prophet (pbuh) at Mecca, and learning on inquiry that there was a prediction of the coming of a Messenger of God from Arabia, he appointed his son as regent and set out to meet him. He embraced Islam at the hand of the Prophet, and when returning home, at the direction of the Prophet, died at the port of Zafar, Yemen, where the tomb of the “Indian king” was piously visited for many centuries.” so an indian king saw the moon and thank God he wrote ab it !! check this www.cyberistan.org/islamic/farmas.html in another side .. how can u prove that Jesus peace be upon him is God and he healed ppl !! do u have any proof !! u can't !! it(s just a faith .. and u r trying to denying all the facts coming from Qur'an ... another small expl and it's beautiful :: '"When the sky disintegrates, and turns rose colored like paint"' nobel. So which of the favors of your Lord would you deny? " Quran 57:37 an explosion 'cat's eye Nebula' they called it .. and it looks like a painted flower indeed they r many beautiful flowers actually hhh check this www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/styles/full_width_feature/public/images/167321main_image_feature_741_ys_full.jpg?itok=aBEz29C0

[@ayoubmiracles3316]

u said Quran threatens us !! many read it not just read it actually we keep it by heart and wer read Bible but Christians just believe wt the priests tell them .. they don't even read Bible completly .. so now i have to show u Bible :: Matthew 10-34-38 NIV 34 “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn “ ‘a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law- 36 a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’ 37 “Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 38 Whoever does not take up their cross and follow me is not worthy of me. ( so the prince of peace does all this !!! ) ... God the deceiver Jeremiah 4:10 "It shall come about in that day," declares the LORD, "that the heart of the king and the heart of the princes will fail; and the priests will be appalled and the prophets will be astounded." 10Then I said, "Ah, Lord GOD! Surely You have utterly deceived this people and Jerusalem, saying, You will have peace; whereas a sword touches the throat." .... ********* Ouch !! poor ppl to have such a God !! No one whose testicles are crushed or whose penis is cut off shall be admitted to the assembly of the LORD. Deuteronomy 23:1 NRSV ---- Whosoever … hath any blemish, let him not approach to offer the bread of his God. For whatsoever man he be that hath a blemish, he shall not approach: a blind man, or a lame, or he that hath a flat nose, or any thing superfluous, Or a man that is brokenfooted, or brokenhanded, Or crookback, or a dwarf, or that hath a blemish in his eye, or be scurvy, or scabbed, or hath his stones broken … He shall not go in unto the vail, nor come nigh unto the altar, because he hath a blemish; that he profane not my sanctuaries. Leviticus 21:17-23 KJV ** ... ** supporting a serial killer!! ** He [Josiah] executed the priests of the pagan shrines on their own altars, and he burned human bones on the altars to desecrate them…. He did this in obedience to all the laws written in the scroll that Hilkiah the priest had found in the LORD’s Temple. Never before had there been a king like Josiah, who turned to the LORD with all his heart and soul and strength, obeying all the laws of Moses. And there has never been a king like him since. 2 Kings 23:20-25 NLT ****** i dono wt to call this hhhh * If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die. Deuteronomy 21:18-21 ... Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT You may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. ... 2 Kings 2:23-25 NIV :: Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, some boys came out of the town and jeered at him. “Get out of here, baldy!” they said. “Get out of here, baldy!” He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the Lord. Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys. ... Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man intimately. But all the girls who have not known man intimately, spare for yourselves. Numbers 31:17-18 .... no respect for women !! When a woman has a discharge, if her discharge in her body is blood, she shall continue in her menstrual impurity for seven days; and whoever touches her shall be unclean until evening. Everything also on which she lies during her menstrual impurity shall be unclean, and everything on which she sits shall be unclean. Leviticus 15: 19-20 ****** ***** When men fight with one another, and the wife of the one draws near to rescue her husband from the hand of him who is beating him, and puts out her hand and seizes him by the private parts, then you shall cut off her hand. Deuteronomy 25:11-12 ... Deuteronomy 28:30-31,35 You will be pledged to be married to a woman, but another will take her and rape her. You will build a house, but you will not live in it. You will plant a vineyard, but you will not even begin to enjoy its fruit. Your ox will be slaughtered before your eyes, but you will eat none of it. Your donkey will be forcibly taken from you and will not be returned. Your sheep will be given to your enemies, and no one will rescue them. . . . The Lord will afflict your knees and legs with painful boils that cannot be cured, spreading from the soles of your feet to the top of your head. .... so !! is this from God !!

[@ayoubmiracles3316]

so u think Quran qouted from Aristotle and Hippocrates and Galen but Qur'an proved them wrong even before the new Tech! so let me give u wt was eachone of them theory : Hippocrates and his followers taught in the fifth century BC that semen comes from all the fluid in the body, diffusing from the brain into the spinal marrow, before passing through the kidneys and via the testicles into the penis (from Hippocratic Writings ).. which is wrong of course more clear in stages :: stage 1 : semen comes from all the fluid in the body (wrong) stage 2 : "The seed (embryo), then, is contained in a membrane ... Moreover, it grows because of its mother's blood (wrong of course ) stage 3:"At this stage, with the descent and coagulation of the mother's blood, flesh begins to be formed, with the umbilicus."(wrong very wrong ) stage 4 : "As the flesh grows it is formed into distinct members by breath ... The bones grow hard ... moreover they send out branches like a tree ... (SO his theory consist that the embryo is made by semen from brain and woman's blood .. Aristotle believed that humans originated from the action of male semen upon female menstrual blood . ''So nature has first designed the two blood vessels from the heart, and from these smaller vessels branch off to the uterus, forming what is called the umbilicus...Round these is a skin-like integument, because the weakness of the vessels needs protection and shelter. The vessels join to the uterus like the roots of plants, and through them the embryo receives its nourishment" (from Aristotle, De Generatione Animalium, Book II, 740a28-740a35, as per Barnes, opere citato, p. 1149) ** "When the material secreted by the female in the uterus has been fixed by the semen of the male...the more solid part comes together, the liquid is separated off from it, and as the earthy parts solidify membranes form all around it...Some of these are called membranes and others choria..." (Aristotle, De Generatione Animalium, Book II, 739b20-739b30, as per Jonathan Barnes (ed.), The Complete Works of Aristotle, (Princeton, 1985), Vol 1, p. 1148.) to stages :: stage 1: semen stage 2 : catamenia (embryo would never develop any further into a human; it would be a dead mass of bloody miscarrying flesh) so wrong .. stage 3 : flesh fed through umbilicus stage 4: bones (he said the more solid part comes together the liquid is separated off from it so first it will be fleshy then more solid bones .. he made his study on animals wt he could watch is a chick transformation .. so liquid then flesh then bones Stage 5. around the bones grow the fleshy parts ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Galen now :: "let us divide the creation of the foetus overall into four periods of time. The first is that in which. as is seen both in abortions and in dissection, the form of the semen prevails [Arabic nutfah]. At this time, Hippocrates too, the all-marvelous, does not yet call the conformation of the animal a foetus; as we heard just now in the case of semen voided in the sixth day, he still calls it semen. But when it has been filled with blood [Arabic alaqa], and heart, brain and liver are still unarticulated and unshaped yet have by now a certain solidarity and considerable size, this is the second period; the substance of the foetus has the form of flesh and no longer the form of semen. Accordingly you would find that Hippocrates too no longer calls such a form semen but, as was said, foetus. The third period follows on this, when, as was said, it is possible to see the three ruling parts clearly and a kind of outline, a silhouette, as it were, of all the other parts [Arabic mudghah]. You will see the conformation of the three ruling parts more clearly, that of the parts of the stomach more dimly, and much more still, that of the limbs. Later on they form "twigs", as Hippocrates expressed it, indicating by the term their similarity to branches. The fourth and final period is at the stage when all the parts in the limbs have been differentiated; and at this part Hippocrates the marvelous no longer calls the foetus an embryo only, but already a child, too when he says that it jerks and moves as an animal now fully formed." "... The time has come for nature to articulate the organs precisely and to bring all the parts to completion. Thus it caused flesh to grow on and around all the bones, and at the same time ... it made at the ends of the bones ligaments that bind them to each other, and along their entire length it placed around them on all sides thin membranes, called periosteal, on which it caused flesh to grow." Stages : Stage 1 : Galen agreed with like he called him Hyppocrates the marvelous ( semen plus menstrual blood) Stage 2: unshaped flesh Stage 3. Bones Stage 4 : flesh grows on and around the bones -----------------------------------------------

[@freekielam1281]

They must have skipped the crossfire rounds because James White was making Zakir look like a fool. Zakir even wanted James do start with the last round so he could have the last word.

[@juniordean86]

Y dnt u get your facts str8. Their was no cross fire planned it was meant to be a audience q and a but it was getting late

[@exposemyfoes]

Zakir hussain vs samuel green Muhammad in the bible debate has just been uploaded. They also had another debate on the Quran or the Bible which should be up soon

[@IbrahimIsmail4889]

Great debate

[@ivanvasilev1809]

Greetings from Russia for dr. White ! He as ever irresistable in stating the Truth !

[@MAJOR_FAULTs]

Its like James wasn't in the hall when Zakir made his into . Wow .

[@from_the_river_to_the_sea123]

According to John 17:3 Jesus said the only true God is the Father.. Jesus is not the Father, he is the SON.. Therefore Jesus is not GOD..

[@from_the_river_to_the_sea123]

hahaha you again.. why dont you just accept the reality and embrace Islam the TRUE religion of my GOD and your GOD.. The GOD of Jesus AS and Prophet Muhammad SAW, the GOD of all Prophets... before its too late..

[@from_the_river_to_the_sea123]

you're just being brainwashed.. read Islamic reference with clear intention so that you will learn..

[@from_the_river_to_the_sea123]

You cannot read Quran and make your own understanding.. when even the Scholars who are Arabs, they studied for more than ten years before they became scholars.. if read and make your own interpretation without understanding the true meaning of the verse, then surely you will be doomed

[@someonethatisachristian]

if you cant read the quaran and make your own understanding, why are we having this debate? HOWEVER, you can read the bible and make your own understanding what you see. its not hard at all Jesus life and ministery prophesied there, world events that have come to pass just as prophesied an all, its all there for anyone who wants it. Try yourself. Read Daniel 9. Black text on white paper. Your brain should be able to comprehend what the clear text says quite easy. It even gives a timeframe for the messiah, seventy sevens, that for some strange reason fits with when Jesus came,, and it says in clear letters, black letters on white paper, that he will be put to death, which is exactly what christians say happen to Jesus and the new testament verifies. Same for Psalm 22, Isaiah 52:13-53, Zechariah 12:10 and so forth, strangely it also portrays things we know from the new testament.... And it was in scripture before Jesus came. Yes indeed, it depicts the cruficixion, it really couldnt be clearer, you can see the shapes of the black letters forming these words so even for a muslim brain will understand them. And if you cant believe what you read and claim there have to be some kind of corruption here, your muslim brain are also able to process that these ancient scriptures have been here all the time and saying the same. Dead sea scrolls, septuagint, samaritan pentatuch, the pershitta, coptic bible AND SO FORT verify that what these letters form in your brain, are the same letters that would form in your brain if you lived in that area 2000 years ago or more. THERE IS NO CORRUPTION! We KNOW what the ancient texts said. Are there bad translations from these ancient texts we have? Sure, but thats a different debate. You can find the truth objectively, based on evidence, however the one drawing you to do that would be God, because God is ultimately who grants faith. Until that happens, you'll probably continue to be a muslim and do meaningless rituals. I hope for your sake God grants it to you, and that you come to the true God. And i dont think i have met one christian that havent had any encounter with God somehow associated with becoming a christian, being born again - born of God - is not some small thing. As a christian, i'll cheer for you.

[@mohamedchoyoua1536]

Roosje Keizer so very far away?

[@Nazam44]

Most names in Hebrew are adjectives, Ishmael, Isaac, Israel, Elijah, Joshua, etc.....

[@MustafaMuhammed1981]

At the very end in conclusion of debate dr james white said holy spirit will come and be in desciples however in the book of luke the holy spirit was already present on the earth. But jesus said he must go before he spirit comes which proves its a diffrent spirit.

[@JoeMorreale1187]

Dr White is an expert at carry on talking even though he has nothing of substance to offer but I like Zakir's aggressive not letting him off the hook style. This is the best way to expose professional speakers like White.

[@faisalsiraj9423]

Yeah professional deceivers like Dr. White.

[@kimjensen8207]

The Enlightenment is reaching our Muslim friends; we've had it for 300 years in the West and it immediately brought some attention to variations in Greek New Testament manuscripts. German scholarship in the 20th century almost ruined the respect for the New Testament, but, man - are these Anglo-Saxons giving it back! James is a wonderful debater; he'll teach guys like Ehrman - almost as a child - any day of the week, and this gentleman certainly, though kindhearted, genuine and respectful, can not have left this debate unshaken. Scholarship on the origine of the Qur'an is in it's infancy regarding hard historical research in western academia. Our Muslim friends are in for a ride, I think - just like we were when already Thomas Linacre (Renaissance, Oxford university) wrote this in his diary: either this is not the gospel (a Greek NT manuscript) or we are not Christians (Jerome's Vulgate). We can - as Christians - never become fundamentalists. We can only give a reasonable defense of our faith, and - Lord almighty, Jesus Christ, can James give a defense! To the glory of God the Father, to be sure. Kind regards Kim

[@dtrez3866]

Indeed.

[@Muslim4life76]

james white got hammered by zakir hussain

[@caseylee1553]

Anyone else notice the compassion while has for the Muslims and wanting the people there to come to Christ. Does Zakir draw the same compassion towards the Christians in the room or for them to convert. The difference in the genuine God is he can change hearts no false god can.

[@inwhalesmouth]

When i was 11 yrs old at our school. We were going to start our flag anthem7:30am but then it started raining.we started running but a nun from spain named sister Restituta said "dont run.lets pray."she lift up her head to the skies in front of us 500 students in an open playground. she said"Jesus please stop the rain,please?" the rain stopped! there was silence. we were shocked! So we sang and prayed about 20minutes and marched to our rooms.as soon as i got in our room,it rained,the whole day.