Multicolor Printing for Everyone (Coprint + Creality)

[@mehmetck]

It is very proud to see a Turkish company doing a good job in 3d printing. I hope you will be successful in a short time in the market

[@D_Deimos]

Just got this installed on my Neptune 3 Pro that I converted to Klipper. Luckily I have made a few custom Klipper printers, because without that knowledge it would've been rough to get this running. The wiki is bare bones, there are a lot of missing notes for the .cfg files that you need to use to get this running. Just a few notes for the macros and functions will make this really easy to get working with YOUR printer. It was obvious this was pivoted for the E3V3 series printers, but a few more notes will make this easier to set up for any printer. It would be nice to get the g-code modifiers laid out in the wiki as well, I do not want to use their Orca profile when I already have mine set up.

[@skunkprints7952]

Nathan builds robots is the definitive source for 3d printing news!

[@NathanBuildsRobots]

A little late today but I’ll let it slide this time

[@skunkprints7952]

Haha hit me with that 7am upload had me jumping out of bed to comment.

[@woodwaker1]

I have had my Kickstarter kit for a few months and have finally been making some progress. I think they did a great job on the hardware. The software is a different story. I'm not faulting them. My goal was to install this on one of my Rat Rigs. First I had to have help from Coprint to design a mount for the head, which they did and after some small changes I was able to get it mounted. Getting the Coprint software to work in RatOs was much more difficult, since I'm not an expert in Klipper and RatOs is probably the most complicated implementation. Today I was able to get control of the head, at least to heat the extruder, make if move plastic and home using the bed sensor. I hope to be able to publish details - if it works as well as it appears it would be a great add on to a Rat Rig. The kit appears to be very high quality and reasonably priced.

[@pyrosnap4524]

Hmmm...I wonder what happens to the PTFE tubes and the filament in them when we print products at max height. I assume that the higher we print, the more the PTFE tubes become stressed, "fragile" and thus make it difficult for the filament to pass through. I assume that the greatest stress may occure mainly at the connection of the PTFE tube to the motor.

[@dohabandit]

It's not just a problem with the PTFE "bowden" tubes. The biggest problem I see aside from filament mixing which they appear to have done well) is the increased possibility of a filament break during printing. Anyone that has done any 3D printing has had the disappointment of starting a long print and getting 80% of the way through and having the filament break in the bowden tube. The print will continue, but the retraction fails because the filament is broken in the tube and you have a servo/drive gear that is far from the print head. This leads to big problems with stringing as the head moves and is oozing out filament. Maybe with multiple filaments retracting you can suffer a break better than with a single filament? I'd like to hear some discussion on that.

[@dohabandit]

Ahh, so they aren't color mixing... yeah, filament breaks are gonna be hell.

[@jibbajabbak.o5273]

What was the print quality like ? I got 2 V3 plus and was thinking buying this kit for one of them. But wonder if I am better off getting an A1 combo and not deal with the chroma set. BTW , great interview really enjoyed it 👍🏼

[@ostrov11]

Спасибо, отличный контент. С Новым Годом !!!

[@martinprent7255]

The price is close to 500 euro for me. Bether for me to buy a bambu or k2 not worth for my ender 3 s1 pro. Maybe the price wil drop 200 euro in the future. Thinking for some weeks to buy a k2 plus. I can realy use the bigger buildplate.

[@MB-THX1138]

Well explained by the co print representative

[@sergeantsapient]

I've been debating getting this for my E3v2 since I learned about it's existence.

[@jamescampbell6728]

Seeing multicolor prints reminds me of the magic of when I first saw 3D printers

[@Smedleydog1]

I bought a Ender 3 v3 Plus over the K1 because of the larger build plate and the fact that I wasn't really concerned about multi color printing. After hearing about Co-Print, checking out their website and now watching this interview, I'm starting to get the itch to buy one of these. Maybe Nathan can get one of these to review? I believe that he has an E3 v3 Plus.

[@strangestuff1213]

That was "exactly" what I was looking for

[@syko2695]

The problem with western economy in a nutshell: "Most importantly, we carried our production facility to China to catch up to the market in cost and price to performance"

[@petervoll]

you clearly dont understand economics. try taking a class

[@syko2695]

@petervoll You're welcome to explain why being largely incapable of using our own labour because nobody wants to beat the prices they can achieve in the East is not a bad thing.

[@monkeywrench1951]

This has been happening since the 1970s. So much that the west has lost its manufacturing capacity and the trade secrets are no more. Companies sacrificed their competitive advantage by moving their technology out. This is what the quarterly and yearly incentives for stock performance did by sacrificing long term existence for very short term thinking.

[@xythiera7255]

​@@syko2695 Realy simpel China has cheap labor and thats why China can produce so cheap it has nothing to do with them not be apple to do it them selfs or that the performance is bad .

[@petervoll]

@@syko2695 in some cases it seems education is better in the hands of professionals. But I will say this much: Go found a company and do it. If you are this smarty, should be easy for you

[@T00LF00L]

Wow Nathan got all dressed up and almost combed his hair 😂

[@FelipeGonzalezHerrera]

I started a project multicolor pinter a few weeks ago and I'm currently working on the multicolor extruder part... A friend came yesterday and I showed him the progress, he said: "so you're building your own coprint sysytem", I answered: "WTF is a coprint?", he showed me a video here in youtube, I saw the similarities and now I'm watching this video to see how much similar is my system to coprint's.

[@exsurgemechprints2671]

I managed to get my Chromaset running (as a Marlin user). You need klipper experience to make this work, if you own a Marlin printer, start researching klipper ASAP 😂

[@CtrlAltPrint]

bring this to the k1c id absolutely buy this

[@Jpeglism]

it's really expensive, it has some good advantages when compared with the AMS but at the cost of smaller printable area.

[@BloodyIron]

Wanted to hear more about what it does, how it works, and less about how a Kickstarter started...

[@planckstudios]

Great questions! Open source high flow, high temp, high speed multi-color addon for Creality?! Hope we get a hands on video. No poops, produced in good hands. I do trust this man's hand control. Don't see support for CR-M4 - that'd be wild

[@anthonylong5870]

Nate you timed this PERFECTLY i just got a K1 Max for Christmas and am needing a multicolor unit....Thanks!

[@ZappyOh]

It's a nice machine :) I've had mine for 6-7 months now, and am very happy with it.

[@TGMisKillingTheMiddleClass]

before you settle on a choice check out all the options! This Co-Print is great if you dont want to fiddle with code and stuff, but its not cheap... 3D Chameleon is now open source, and only needs 2 motors to do 4 colors. (3 motors for 8 colors). You can build it from spare parts you have, or buy them really cheap. Should be less than $100 even if you have to buy everything. I have been working on custom gcode macros with another guy and its working really well. no filament cutter needed

[@primeministerprinz2695]

Apparently the k2 CFS will be compatible with K1max in future update. Something to look out for.

[@TGMisKillingTheMiddleClass]

@primeministerprinz2695 2025 will be the year of the MMU. There are so many options coming, and so many diy ones that are working.

[@ZappyOh]

I want this for my K1Max. Just wonder what the cost will be.

[@majed.Alshahrani]

I think it’s cheaper than any competitors unless if you diy it, in my opinion just buy from them to save your time

[@TuncayAyhan]

From what I saw on their website, it was around $ 400

[@majed.Alshahrani]

@@TuncayAyhan in my opinion I prefer a dual extruder heads IDEX due to the spirit temperature volume of each one

[@vim55k]

how it works?

[@JebenOvajIgrac]

I think this guy rushed the release but didn't finish it all the way. I think he just gave a good idea for the competition to remove it from the market

[@Burnstation3D]

Nathan doesn't know where he is 😂 rockstar status at that point 🤟

[@BarioIDL]

when are they gonna use CMYK to blend colors?

[@themab9542]

Show poop? Looks like a specific model slice that purges into that rainbow to avoid this

[@hyperstimmed]

so far their compatibility list doesn't include any Qidi printers, despite them running Klipper. Just lists Sovol, Anycubic..

[@tenchuu007]

Nathan Wears Cool Sunglasses Inside

[@IlREK]

Jest w Polsce takie powiedzenie- jak coś jest do wszystkiego, to jest do niczego. To właśnie jest do niczego.

[@bookie60]

multicolor tpu?

[@deadcxap755]

1. A closed system in which you cannot make any changes in settings/logic 3D printing? 2. Unique nozzles, unique extruders, unique spare parts. Everything to tie the user to your store with inflated prices. 2.1. A thermal barrier soldered to the radiator? Am I sure I understood correctly? That is, in the event of an accident, or accidentally breaking, you need to go and buy a one-piece module, instead of changing a cheap tube with a pair of threads? 3. There are literally projects that do the same thing, but are cheaper and do not require direct integration into the printer firmware. 4. Cleaning when changing plastic only into the cleaning tower, as practice shows, is always slower than cleaning into the container. 5. As a result, we get a product that increases the cost of your bedslinger to the P1P level... And in terms of functionality it does not make it better. It's like buying racing wheels for your small car.

[@planckstudios]

points 1 and 4 are inaccurate. maybe rewatch the video? points 2 and 3, sound like you want custom features w/out custom parts. point 5, a platform agnostic solution means more folks can print multi-color/material. I'm kinda pleased they're not building it for you

[@feliatene757]

P1P is a closed system in which you cannot make any changes in cfg/settings/logic, it also has unique BBL nozzles, everything to tie the user to BBL store.

[@adriannasyraf3534]

bambulab in a nutshell

[@woodwaker1]

I can understand your concerns, but I have been working on the system for months now, To me the other options of changing colors or filament types have their own problems. I have a Prusa XL and the cost holds most people back. My Bambu X1C has a lot of waste, I tried a 3D Chameleon and never got to work. I like the fact that this is a complete hardware system, my challenge has been to interface their Klipper controls into my printers version of Klipper.

[@LawrenceMarks27]

Damn dude, you are surprisingly tall. lol

[@Batchat2352]

Seems like its going to be an upgrade specific to creality:/

[@Ro3Deee]

This sistem looks like a MMU1 from 2017...

[@Zeltroix]

It's pretty ugly.

[@fofopads4450]

is almost a carbon copy of the MMU1 indeed. And that waste tower is absurd

[@TheOneAndOnlySatan]

There is litarly a opensource version that works way better !

[@NathanBuildsRobots]

Share the name with us already !

[@fofopads4450]

That waste tower looks absurdly large. Probably waste less with poop or a regular MMU3 tower. This just another cheap copy of the MMU1 adapted to a another particular machine

[@batuhandemiral7937]

güzel, başarılar

[@vinyltheworld4092]

Why klipper.....why klipper

[@oliverfong418]

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[@majed.Alshahrani]

Smart guys

[@OfficialConeAndFriends]

I would buy from them ever! This company sucks!

[@JAMESBURGARD]

that print head looks bad on any printer and so does all those ptfe tubes!

[@DingleBerryschnapps]

Lmfao! Huh? Looks? Who freaking cares. It's a 3D printer. It's basically like shop equipment. 😂

[@Zeltroix]

I agree, seems like a bad and complex product with CFS and AMS machines to compete with.

[@Zeltroix]

It's pretty ugly, needs to be refined in my opinion.

[@xythiera7255]

Becouse thats whats importent 😅

[@Zeltroix]

@xythiera7255 for me yeah, for home use.

[@DingleBerryschnapps]

​@@Zeltroix Actual Craftsman everywhere are laughing at you right now.

[@Zeltroix]

@@DingleBerryschnapps They can, doesn't take away from the fact that for me it's pretty hard to look at. Also looks like more hassle than its worth, just buy a K2 or Bambulabs machine with AMS. This Coprint idea would have been amazing, 5 years ago. Again my opinion, if you think that's the future and it works for you, and you don't mind paying the price of $400 for just the module, great all power to you.

[@azimuth9819]

3k more subs until P1P Yeetocalypse!