Multiple Sclerosis (MS) Double Vision

This video is a bit of a departure from the type of outdoor content that I usually post, but I decided to post this video in the hopes that it may encourage someone else who is currently dealing with an MS flare up and specifically if they are dealing with diplopia also commonly known as double vision. I know it sounds a bit cliche, but I feel that remaining hopeful and doing your best to stay positive is a very important part of healing. So that's what I plan to do and I am looking forward to getting out on the trail again soon. More videos to come.
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[@barrybecker3706]

You are SO Loved, brother. Sending Love and Prayers to you.

[@MossStoneWoodlore]

Thank you very much Barry, you always leave such positive comments :D...I really appreciate what you bring to the community over here at MSW :)

[@domingue4god]

Thanks for being so real with us. You are a very precious person and God will carry you through this. He has always carried you, only it’s more obvious now. I am seriously praying for you. Yes, you are very blessed, as you say.

[@MossStoneWoodlore]

Thank you, I appreciate it. You are right, He has always gotten me through. I trust Him. Thanks again for the encouragement :)

[@jonfornwald]

Good to see you. Praying for your health my friend. See ya out there.

[@MossStoneWoodlore]

Thanks Jon!

[@DaD-zl2hr]

Prayers for You. Lotsa Respect too

[@MossStoneWoodlore]

Thank you very much, I appreciate it. :)

[@dragonitegaming8]

Thank you for making this video. I was diagnosed 4 days ago and I'm genuinely terrified of what I'm seeing. I really needed this thank you.

[@MsSquattingBear]

You've been missed! I can completely understand your plight, lost my vision for 6 weeks then it took a year to recoupe. Optic neuritis I suffered but have been cleared for ms although I rarely hstill have similar symptoms. It's good to see you despite ur situation. Will keep you and your family in prayer. this verse helps me in these time, jeremiah 29:11

[@MossStoneWoodlore]

Wow, sounds like you had it a lot worse than I did...I can only imagine how difficult that must have been. 10 days was enough to freak me out pretty well...but a year...wow. That is one of my favorite verses and has kept popping up a lot this past year. How is your eyesight these days ?

[@tonyaccurso1090]

Keeping you in our prayers, my friend!

[@MossStoneWoodlore]

Thanks Tony, I appreciate it :)

[@martysmith8191]

PRAYING FOR YOU MY BROTHER, GOD BLESS YOU AND BE WITH THROUGH OUT YOUR JOURNEY, YOUR NEW JOURNEY IS JUST BEGINNING!!!!!

[@MossStoneWoodlore]

Thanks Marty!

[@outandabout9890]

I have always really liked your videos. You come across as good and thoughtful guy. Someone it would be cool to share a camp with. I have family that are dealing with chronic illnesses and it’s never an easy thing but just know you have people out there pulling for you. Nothing but the best to you from a friend in the TN mountains.

[@MossStoneWoodlore]

I appreciate that. Chronic illnesses are tough... watched my father battle a chronic auto-immune disease all through growing up that ultimately took him. Feels strange to be dealing with some of the same themes in my life, but the struggle can be a blessing in disguise sometimes...I know it sounds cliche, but I find that it causes me to appreciate "little things" that I used to take for granted...guess things get called cliche for a reason...because there is a lot of truth to it. I wish you and your loved ones that are dealing with illness as well all the best and I hope that you can get out to those beautiful TN mountains soon -Loch

[@peacetoyou2000]

Thank you Steve for making this video, I know it was hard to do but it will help alot of people I'm sure. I also have an autoimmune disease with my thyroid and it's very interesting that you mentioned Vitamin D being low because mine is low alot as well. I saw a video that mentioned that they think there is a connection with autoimmune diseases and low vitamin D levels. I personally felt so much better when my levels were normal and now I'm feeling crappy again when they are low again, so there may be something to it. I will keep praying for you, please keep me in your prayers as well. God bless you and your family and keep making videos, I enjoy the hikes that I can't do but at least I can see them through your channel.

[@MossStoneWoodlore]

Thanks Cici, ya I am not gonna lie, it was kind of a tough video to make..it's actually kind of ironic that I have a KZbin channel through which potentially millions (or the few hundred that regularly follow hehe) of people can watch the videos, I am actually quite the private person and pretty hermit like hehe...so it kind of even surprises me that I would post videos sometimes...but I really enjoy the video format and love interacting with all of the folks who make up this little community that we have over here at MSW. It's my hope that someone who is struggling with similar MS symptoms will find some encouragement from my particular story... I find hope to be absolutely essential in moving forward...and sometimes it's that little shred of hope that gets us to the next day, the next hour, the next minute...if it serves that purpose for even one person than I think a little discomfort on my part is totally worth it. The vitamin D issue is definitely on my radar, and I suspect that there is something to it. I actually was doing a bit of research about it last night. So glad that you enjoy the hikes...I've had a few folks tell me that it allows them to more or less take a virtual hike and still enjoy the outdoors through this medium even if they can't physically get out there, which I feel honored to be able to be part of. I know that I have found a lot of solace in "virtual hikes" through youtube while I have been laid up in bed, so I also reap those benefits at times at well. I hope that you feel well again soon :) Thank you again for your kind words of encouragement and for sticking with the channel. I truly appreciate it. -Loch

[@peacetoyou2000]

@@MossStoneWoodlore Thank you for your response. I am really a shy person too and it takes alot for me to even post comments as well, but I feel that God gives me courage when it involves helping others, and I see he does the same for you. Keep moving forward and God will lead the way and give you the answers you are seeking, just keep him first in your life, that's the only thing that has brought me peace through all these trials. Psalms 34:19 says it perfectly, "Many are the afflictions of the righteous, but the Lord delivers him out of them all." Jesus is coming soon and there will be no more pain, sorrow, or death (Rev. 21). Take care :-)

[@donovansanders2729]

Thank you for sharing and glad you are doing better!

[@PumpkinVillage]

Good to see you. Our prayers are with you. Stay strong and take care of yourself. God Bless and take care, Al

[@MossStoneWoodlore]

Thanks Al :)

[@NCrdwlf]

Im glad you talked about this. I'm a long time patient of neuro Lyme and know how weird neuro stuff can be. My prayers are with you. Your channel and spirit are amazing. I first came to your channel for your DDR bag mod and stayed for the New England outdoors and the mellow vibe of your channel. Be well and take care of yourself.

[@MossStoneWoodlore]

Thanks Greg. Neuro complications are indeed strange and challenging. Thanks for sticking with the channel, I appreciate your support :)

[@jackjfb8439]

Thank you so much for sharing, that takes courage! I know that your message will reach folks who will benefit from your insight. Your channel is my favorite, mostly because you’re real. Please know that I will definitely be remembering you in prayer. God is the great physician and He absolutely has you in His hands. How cool is that!

[@MossStoneWoodlore]

Thank you very much for your prayers and for the kind words Jack, I appreciate it :)

[@danielacarneiro3142]

Thank you so much for this video. I have MS and have been having severe double vision for a week. I unfortunately don't have the support you do so I have been sooo afraid of what can happen. First time I got blind for 4 months on one eye and now again after 8 years double vision.... I feel so scary right now.... Hope it will go away in 10 days or so....

[@brettsteele7386]

I have no doubt that you will be back out on the trail. You are an amazing person and one of the strongest people I know. Keep up the fight and God Bless.

[@MossStoneWoodlore]

Thanks Brett, feeling pretty good today, I suspect I will be back out there in a matter of weeks hopefully. I have been able to get some short walks in locally which has been a blessing for sure. Just can't wait to get back up to climbing in the White Mountains which is my real passion :D Thanks for checking in man. How are things going on your end ?

[@patcaleen4728]

Brother in arms, funny how my interest in compactor trash bags led me to you, on this post. (Soap Box warning) But seriously, autoimmune triggers can be managed with diet. Control the triggers (gluten…..) and control the disease. I have faith that you are on your way to better health with that nugget. You will be back to that 10,000-foot mountains, clear visions, and million-dollar smiles!

[@MarkDede]

My Brother Steve. It's good to see you feeling better from your vision issue. This MS is such a crazy illness. Take care of yourself and do what you need to stay strong. Attitude is everything with things like this. Trust me, I know. I was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer almost a year ago. It been a constant battle to stay well and strong for my family. Crazy to think we are going though many of the same things right now. We've come a long way since the first videos. Stay strong. Stay in the word and rely on your support group of family and friends. Let me know if you feel like talking more on this. We can connect up off line. -Mark

[@MossStoneWoodlore]

Hey Mark, wow, I didn't realize that you were diagnosed with cancer...that is crazy heavy...my thoughts and prayers will be with you. I agree that attitude is extremely important...a day a time right ? Yes, we have come a long way since the first videos years ago...I really appreciate all of the encouragement over the years. Have you been feeling well enough to get outdoors much ? If not, I hope that you can soon Bro. Hang in there Bro...Jeremiah 29:11...

[@MarkDede]

@@MossStoneWoodlore we haven't had a chance to catch up since then. I am definitely getting out for some dirt time in between treatments. Love that verse. Stay strong brother! Joshua 1:9

[@TheEvandando]

God bless you are an inspiration . The trail awaits.

[@MossStoneWoodlore]

Thanks John, I can't wait to get back up to the mountains!

[@IchibanOyabun]

Hey Bud! Good to see you. Been busy here with the health issues too. Plus the loss of my mom and my dads health... Godspeed to a fast and full recovery! Stay healthy! Stay well! Hadn't seen you on KZbin in a while. Was thinking about you and your health.Saw this video and watched it. I recently purchased a bunch of new gear too while I was down! LOL! Yes! Do don't get much rest ( if any at all ) while you are in the hospital... Looking forward to seeing some gear videos as long as you are staying healthy! I'll try to keep up on your videos more often! Again stay healthy and hope to see you out on the trail soon! Keep us updated on your health and what you are doing to stay healthy and sane during these trying times! Regards Scott

[@maycraib661]

Glad you are getting better, very good video will help people to understand what ms can make you feel like. Gives you a better understanding of what you go through. Love your cat. Thank you for posting your video.

[@MossStoneWoodlore]

Thank you :)

[@SmokeyT63]

Glad you're doing better. I hope your recovery is fast and you're able to get back to doing what you love to do. Just take it one day at a time. Sending prayers for you!

[@MossStoneWoodlore]

Thanks Smokey!

[@kennyb1470]

Thanks for the video brother. I’ve been dealing with some hardcore double vision the past two days. Totally has taken me out of the game. I’m frustrated but your video has definitely given me some encouragement. Thank you. I start my first infusion next week of Ocrevus at UCSF. I’m nervous about that but excited as well. Anyhoo. Take care and be safe bro. PS, I like your cat 🐈‍⬛ 👍🏽

[@hermit6208]

Cherish each day. 🙏

[@MossStoneWoodlore]

I definitely do! It's amazing how something so simple as just being able to see a single clear image again can prove to be so euphoric lol. Hope all is well on your end Ray :D

[@shellwirtful]

A little late but don’t ever be reigned in! I’ve had MS 20 years and I wish I had started something crazy like weight lifting or something 2 years ago when I developed dropfoot (my first real issue in 20 years of MS) You are awsome, just keep going, focus on everything that makes you feel GOOD ignore the annoyances as much as possible. Peace

[@MossStoneWoodlore]

Thanks, just taking it a day at a time!

[@emanakbar4897]

Thanks a lot Steve

[@generaltso9471]

Keep ya head up bro... Thanks for the awesome videos... 💯

[@MossStoneWoodlore]

Thank you for the encouragement :)

[@SatumainenOlento]

Thank you for the video! It is very needed that somebody tells how the double vision actually looks like for the person experiencing it! I did not watch your video all. Too much plaa plaa 😉 I just give this as a little hint, not critique as I think that in an another mindset I would have appreciated the whole video and description of life lived with ms more. I might come back later, but I was really looking for the idea how the double vision really looks like! Well, I am sure that there is more different type of visual disturbances. I will keep reseaching. I save your video. Sending much love to you!!! 💕💗💖💕💕💖💛💕💖💗

[@kattewhetu2613]

Grateful to share your life...always here and will still be, when you are able to do your next video what ever, when ever that maybe ...god bless🙋‍♀️

[@MossStoneWoodlore]

Really appreciate that, it means a lot to me.

[@Leejahable]

Sending love and light from New Zealand x Kia kaha (Be strong).

[@MossStoneWoodlore]

Thanks Lee! So cool to have someone from New Zealand as part of the MSW community! I hope all is well on your end :D

[@psbeauty1084]

This is what i am experiencing now. I was diagnosed with ms a year ago and my flare ups are so bad. I am so scared, i am always searching for answers on my disease. Ive been hospitalized before for 5 days with the steroid IV treatment. I am praying that i come out of this, i really miss my normal vision. Thanks for sharing

[@MossStoneWoodlore]

I'm so sorry that you are experiencing double vision. It was one of the scariest things that I have had to go through. My vision did go back to normal though so there is hope! One thing I would recommend getting checked is your vitamin D levels. My levels were very low. I started taking 10,000 IU's a day and was able to bring my levels back up to the normal range. I currently am not on any medication. So far I have been managing my MS by only taking vitamin D, some pro-biotics and managing my stress levels. Ever since I started taking the vitamin D though my flare ups have dramatically decreased. Not saying that it's some silver bullet but it might be worth a shot for you as well. I really hope that your vision returns to normal soon. Take it a day at a time...and hour at a time... and remember that there is always hope!

[@terryw.milburn8565]

We have Friends with MS & always support them ! God Will Make A Way For You To Get Back On The Trail. Prayers for a Healthy Recovery, Loch, Scratch for Dub ! ATB T God Bless

[@MossStoneWoodlore]

Thanks Terry, I am hoping to get out there as soon as I can! Hope all is well up in the Maritimes :)

[@JinkiesKarKar]

Thank you so much for making this video.. I’ve been diagnosed for one month now and I too lost my vision for two weeks

[@crazyhorsejohnny1974]

Hang in there Bud. I'm sure we'll see you outdoors soon. Take care.

[@MossStoneWoodlore]

Thanks Crazyhorsejohnny, I plan to get out as soon as possible :)

[@assiyatouah22]

Instead of taking the hard core drugs they are going to try to give you try a holistic doctor that’s what I plan on trying before I put any foreign medicines my body.

[@ItsCheeeels]

Currently going through this right now. Still waiting on the actual diagnosis but I was hospitalized and they found lesions during my MRIs and they are saying it’s more than likely MS. This gives me hope that my vision may correct! Thank you.

[@MossStoneWoodlore]

Hi Chelsea, sorry for taking a few days to reply, I was out on a backpacking trip with my wife and just got back. Hopefully that in itself will give you some hope!...it was last October that I was in the hospital for the double vision and since then I have not had a single episode of double vision. I have been working as normal and out climbing mountains and backpacking on the weekends, so there is hope! I can definitely empathize with what you are going through right now...That is why I decided to make that video... I remember that sinking feeling when I was first diagnosed with MS and how uncertain it made me feel. When doctors are telling you that you have these things called "lesions" on your brain, it can really freak you out. But just know that just because you might get diagnosed with MS, that doesn't necessarily mean that everything in your life is going to change for the worse. MS can affect people in a wide variety of ways and those of us with MS can experience symptoms in different ways and in varying degrees. Yes there is always the possibility that it can become more challenging, but the main thing to remember is to just take it a day at a time. Everyone has challenges in life to overcome, whether it be something like MS, or another illness, or a difficult family situation etc., but just because we go through these tough things in life, it doesn't mean that our identity has to be defined by them in a negative way. On the contrary, we can choose, to thrive in situations like this. Not trying to sugar coat it, it's definitely tough at times, but I am firm believer in trying to remain positive as much as we can. On a practical note, if the double vision lasts for a bit, I can say that getting a pair of glasses with one of the frames frosted helped me a ton, maybe they would help you too?...I had to have them redo the frosted lens once though because the first pair that they made me they messed up... I could still kinda see through it, which did not work at all. So if you have them make you up a pair, have them make sure the lens is completely frosted and only allows light through but does not allow you to make out any images with that one eye. Being able to keep that eye open and allow light to hit it will help relax both eyes. It felt so much better when I got the glasses made up. Because before that, constantly having to keep one eye shut gave me a lot of eye strain and headaches. My eyesight actually returned to normal after a few days of wearing them...and almost as suddenly as it started, within in a few hours of when the intensity of the double vision began to subside, it returned to normal. I think being able to keep both eyes open and have a little peripheral vision on the side of the eye that was covered helped in the recovery process, maybe it helped feed my brain some info that it needed to more or less remap the connection etc?. Also, everyone and their brother is going to have an opinion on what is going to be right path of treatment for you...my advice is to take it all in, but what worked for them might not work for you (including my advice). Find what works for you and don't stress out too much if it takes a while to find out what that is. I am currently not on any medication, I have been dealing with my MS through a combination of a restricted diet (almost no processed sugar, no red meat, no dairy) and making sure I get plenty of exercise outdoors which keeps my stress levels in check. Also my vitamin D levels were really low, so I have been taking 10,000 iu's a day which got my levels up. There is a lot of research going on right now that suggests that low vitamin D levels can contribute to MS. Time will only tell if my diet, exercise and vitamin D regiment will be enough to keep my flares at bay, but so far so good. I only been having mini flares that last 48 hours or so every few months, where I experience some tingling in my face and limbs along with feeling really spaced out and tired. But the flares usually go away in a few days. Anyways, sorry for the wall of text (youtube is being weird tonight and not allowing me to make new paragraphs :-/), but I just wanted to respond with something more than just a few lines and let you know that there are others out there that have gone through this and most importantly that there is hope! Never lose hope! Let me know how things work out for you and feel free to reach out and ask me any questions. I'd be happy to help wherever I can. Praying for you.

[@ItsCheeeels]

Moss Stone Woodlore I appreciate you taking the time to reply and those kind words. I am literally sitting here with homemade frosted glasses lol it definitely helps with the double vision I just hope that it will help to actually correct it. You have really gave me a glimpse of hope in a time where I’m feeling a little discouraged. Thank you so so so much. You have no idea how this helped

[@assiyatouah22]

Moss Stone Woodlore hi I have a question about MS .. I have been having flare ups since I was 19 and I’m now 23. Also I’ve been having a lot of vision disturbances in terms of blindness in 1 eye for months, to double vision. This is actually my second time experiencing double vision and it’s very intense when I look to my right. I look a tad bit cock eyed when I look straight or slightly to my right. It’s making me very insecure 😟 I wanted to know and I sound absolutely crazy for asking but do you think my eyes will straighten out it’s been 2 weeks. I’m more so concerned about being cockeyed. And yes I also have 20 20 and have to cover only one eye. I’m scared every time this happens. I don’t have a doctors appointment anytime soon. Thank u so much for the info. I feel like I’m rambling becuz I’m panicking.

[@ItsCheeeels]

#Update So I’m literally just watching tv then it hit me, I’m not experiencing double vision!!! I’ve been dealing with this now for a couple of months. I got up to see if I could see myself clearly in the mirror and I can! Then I turn on my work computer, and I can see one image!! Further away is still a little shaky but I will accept this improvement with open arms!! Wow. The things we take for granted. I am OVERJOYED!

[@MossStoneWoodlore]

@@ItsCheeeels Hey sorry I missed this comment. So glad to hear that your vision is back to normal! It is amazing the things we take for granted...I remember how amazing it felt when my vision returned to normal. This is great news :D

[@feliciamartinez2782]

love the cat!! still sending prayers your way!!!

[@MossStoneWoodlore]

I was wondering if Dublin would get any love hehe. I've had quite a few cats in my 37 years, and I have to say that he is the coolest cat that I have ever had...he's got loads of personality with a super mellow demeanor that is punctuated my sudden bursts of energetic loony-ness lol. Thank you for the prayers, I appreciate it! Thank you for sticking with the channel and for all of your support :D -Loch

[@vannerdherd]

Just checking on you...I saw an article that Selma Blair was going through MS treatments & was wondering how you are...can you make a short vlog of how everything is going? cheers!

[@MossStoneWoodlore]

Hi GeekaNerd, things are going pretty well on the MS front at the moment. I will be having a checkup MRI soon and am hoping that the results are good. I am hoping to get a video out sometime in the near future :D I hope all is well on you end! Thanks for checking in :)

[@mainehiker6157]

Might want to try a keto diet. There is some idea that it could help with ms. Wishing you the best!

[@MossStoneWoodlore]

I actually tried a the Keto diet for a bit (more just to tone up a bit) but the "Keto Flu" that I experienced was horrible. It definitely seems to work for some folks though. Thank you for the encouraging words :)

[@katosthoff]

Putting in my two cents that no one asked me for. Idk anything about the keto helping Ms. I can imagine it would. But I can say that I really struggled with the keto flu twice. I found out that I wasn't eating enough fat. As soon as I upped the fat I got way better. Just thought I'd throw that in there. Praying WITH you! Glad to see you outside again.

[@danielacarneiro3142]

Have you had double vision again ?? How have you been feeling ??? Can you please share with me what have you been doing lately to keep you safe !!??

[@Gravertrain]

Just started Ocrevus, supposed to be the "latest thing". Costs about $130,000 a year. My health insurance costs $18,000 a year. I prefer to just worry about wellness, rather than money. Universal healthcare is the only answer. You're not alone, Randy.

[@MossStoneWoodlore]

I hadn't heard of Ocrevus. I am very wary of the medications they are advising me to take...I am still going to do a lot of research before I start taking any...and wow, that's criminally expensive...makes me sick that big pharma profits like that off of folks illnesses... I am all about paying a fair price for a product that someone develops and distributes, but that is pure greed, plain and simple.

[@domingue4god]

Just remember the more you are not able to control things, the more God is in control.

[@MossStoneWoodlore]

Thanks Brian, very true.

[@vannerdherd]

Oh man, sorry you are experiencing this! Sucks! I would suggest some CBD oil or even some THC to see if it will help you. Will be thinking of you brotha! Cheers!

[@MossStoneWoodlore]

Thanks Chen! Hoping to get out there soon and make a video for everyone. Thank you for continuing to support the channel :D

[@s3clorum]

i will be sending you prayers but i need to ask you, are you willing to completely heal yourself ? this is NOT a joke! I have been watching you for years, im not sure why i am awake at 1:50am in the morning....maybe the almighty wanted me to see this so that i could share with you what i know. Please contact me back so that we can get in touch. Meanwhile im wishing you much good health, peace and love

[@MossStoneWoodlore]

Thank you very much for your thoughts and prayers, I truly appreciate it :)

[@Gravertrain]

I'm here Steve. Commented before and I have MS as well. I have all sorts of healthcare issues as well. It's like "salt in the wound" when I have to deal with insurance, drug prices, and our totally screwed up healthcare system. You are, or probably will experience the the same. Vote for Progressive candidates in Nov., cause universal health care is the only answer. None of us know when life will throw us a healthcare catastrophe. It's enough to deal with illness, we should not have to worry about financial catastrophe as well. I'm with you and it's sad but MS really sucks. Can't say all I want, because Ms took the use of my hands. Typing is hard. Wishing you the best. Tough road ahead. Randy Graves

[@MossStoneWoodlore]

Thanks for detailed comment Randy, I know that is must have taken a lot of effort to type all of that out. Ya I agree that the healthcare system definitely needs a lot of work. On a positive note, I currently have a really good insurance policy and we already met our deductible during the past year so, most of this flare up should be covered. Still waiting on some more info. Thanks for checking in and I hope that you find some peace amidst the craziness that is MS. Wishing you the best as well friend. -Loch