"Okay, so I will just casually learn a new programming language and write a device driver for a century old hardware, because why not" Pretty amazing! As a software engineer, I'm pretty impressed by what you achieved!
@SilentGloves10 ай бұрын
I came here to say that this person is a Software Engineer and hasn't yet realized it.
@jonathanpullen74395 ай бұрын
@@SilentGloves I actually suspect that she is a JOAT. :) (Jack/Jill of all trades). I think you would have to be to keep a panel or crossbar switch working now that you can't just call western electric for new parts.
@mrbmw42 Жыл бұрын
As someone who's spent almost 20 years building systems using Asterisk for various purposes, I have to say this is arguably the most incredible use I've seen. It's also *exactly* the kind of thing that the early community would've loved (things have, unfortunately, become a lot more corporate over the years). Great job!
@jnelson4765 Жыл бұрын
I made my living replacing office systems with Asterisk and installing Hylafax fax -> PDF gateways for a few years. Only messed with a couple T1s, but this is truly next level.
@DeviantOllam Жыл бұрын
Your presentation style gets more engaging and charming with each and every video... Even this deep dive, in spite of it being very computer-y, was entertaining and totally understandable to me, someone who hasn't coded since college! 👍😁👍💚
@eeek776 ай бұрын
Agreed
@xurtis Жыл бұрын
Wow, going from ‘I don’t know C’ to ‘dammit, I’ll write the driver myself’ isn’t a leap i think most would try to take but I think many would get a lot from. Hope you had plenty of fun learning that way, hope others take inspiration from that too!
@xurtis Жыл бұрын
Also, were you to teach computer science, i think I’d have loved to learn it from you. I really like your presentation style and I’d really like to understand how you manage to speak so well to a broad audience, engaging to those with experience and still clear to those without and without speaking excessively in technical terms; it’s something i think i could stand to improve on myself.
@xurtis Жыл бұрын
@@monad_tcp i think whether or not I’d recommend it would depend on the person; if you’re self driven enough I don’t see why doing it as an absolute beginner would be such a bad idea. Just be prepared to take smaller incremental steps and do your work on a machine that won’t be an issue if you do something catastrophically wrong.
@solarshado Жыл бұрын
@@xurtis I feel like that depends on exactly how you're defining "absolute beginner". Seems like it'd be a pretty rough time if you don't even know what a variable is yet. But I agree that a lot of beginners could probably benefit more from something like this than continuing to green-field stuff from assorted tutorials. I feel like, in general, "reading actual, real-world code" is an under-utilized learning tool... (insert tangent about open source vs closed source here)
@LouiseBrooksBob4 ай бұрын
Her next challenge should be to rewrite it in Rust.
@aftbit Жыл бұрын
Nice job! I am a professional software engineer, and I can confidently say that branching out to your own implementation of a confusing function instead of refactoring is a time honored tradition, even if it isn't best practice! :) Does this mean that the Museum will be returning to C*NET or Phreaknet soon?
@MarcinKwiatkowski8 ай бұрын
Amazing. Awesome. Brilliant example of excel in engineering. As a software engineer and architect with 25yrs in telco industry I tell you - you are magnificent. People with attitude like yours are driving the world. I beg you, under any circumstances, please do not lose your enthusiasm.
@MeriaDuck Жыл бұрын
Goosebumps when that phone rang at about 16:40! You're a genius to pull that off. And a nice 100 year celebration feature for the machine.
@billmoran3812 Жыл бұрын
Sara, your giddy joy from this accomplishment is palpable. You are a treasure! I doubt there are many people in the world with your unique knowledge and skills in telephony. I would absolutely love to spend a day shadowing you at the museum.
@chriholt Жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you Bill - I would love to hang with Sara and tour that awesome museum!
@slonkazoid Жыл бұрын
clicked for Linux, stayed for the analog nerd stuff and proceeded to send the video to everyone. I'm still too scared to write kernel modules but modifying software to add the features I want is something I do often. good job on getting it to work
@jnelson4765 Жыл бұрын
Kernel drivers aren't too bad - the interfaces are well documented, so long as you know the hardware you're interacting with. PCI and PCIe are very well abstracted and the vast majority of USB devices can be driven with a user mode driver.
@Hauketal Жыл бұрын
Someone (was maybe even Linus himself?) said, kernel programming is like old DOS programming: you make an error, you reboot.
@bzert2815 ай бұрын
Cracking open a beer to celebrate your moment of victory with the Panel > Linux > Panel round-trip call. That is a totally awesome feeling. ***K Yeah Indeed!!!
@ralfbaechle5 ай бұрын
As a kernel developer - the kernel is just another C program. After 33 or so years it has become pretty large and complex but you can ignore most of that to get started. There are many tutorials around. There used to be a project to introduce prgorammers into the Linux kernel, Kernelnewbies, Linux Kernel Newbies. Search for that.
@PhilipStorry10 ай бұрын
You should be insanely proud of this achievement! It's great to see an integration that helps us understand the old panel switch better. You should also be proud of this video, which was not just interesting but had clarity and enthusiasm. Thank you very much for doing this.
@mutzbunny Жыл бұрын
i just wanted to say, I am so happy to see, that you as a museum do such a wonderful job in preseving those machines. Yes it costs money to run those machines, yes it defininitely is not easy to do and requires a lot of effort. but I myself worked in a Museum a while, and they did not even try to preserve the stuff they had, the outright destroyed most of their bigger machines and computers to make them look like they are doing something while actually it all is controlled by a modern arduino. I found it really depressing how that museum treated their stuff. thats why i am even more happy to see places like the connections museum or the computer history museum do such a great job of preserving even bigger and more complicated machines. thank you.
@sysmatt Жыл бұрын
21 minutes of magnificent storytelling -- Love it. Awesome work!
@ConnectionsMuseum Жыл бұрын
Thank you! 🙏
@MachiningandMicrowaves11 ай бұрын
This sort of content is what the internet is for. I've been making code talk weird old protocols to and between weird old hardware (and weird new hardware) since 1972 and I still get that H*CK YEAH! moment when things work. Fabulous work Sarah!
@MichaelCowden Жыл бұрын
As a nerd who also gains personal satisfaction from tackling big projects of little commercial usefulness, I approve of and applaud your dedication and success. Congratulations on your achievement. I will never reach the level of satisfaction you must have from this extremely cool project. I bow to you and will forever have you in my personal hall of fame for accomplishing the adaptation of a panel switch into a Linux peripheral. This is just spectacular, and lives high up among many significant achievements made by you and the Museum staff. Damn good show! (And thanks for the awesome video to explain it, too.)
@felixe2890 Жыл бұрын
That's absolutely magnificient! Congratulations on the work and your determination for pushing through this!
@melanierhianna Жыл бұрын
I'm a tech lead in embedded software and have worked in it for 30 years because I love writing code that makes real world stuff happen. That joy when you run code and something happens to some thing elsewhere is wonderful. Congrats!
@RalphHightower11 ай бұрын
Congratulations on modifying the dadhi (sp?) to get everything working. It was a fascinating video to watch. For nine months in 1994, I was a software developer contracted to MCI in Cedar Rapids, IA. One puzzling problem to solve was eliminating the various beeps and boops that a customer heard switching to an audio recorder for delayed message delivery. In the "bull pen", there was one contractor who would dial another number in the room and hang up when it was answered. George was helping me test it. Once I confirmed that it worked, I told George, "I have one more test." "One more?" "Yes, Sashi." He said "Let's do it." George recorded "Sashi, we know you're doing this. Stop. You've been warned." I set it for a 5 minute delay, and we went back to the "bull pen". Sashi's phone rang, but he didn't see anyone using the phone. His face turned pale.
@barrygalbraith3016 күн бұрын
What an AWESOME video! I'm an old SxS, Ericsson ARF102, Ericsson AXE technician of some 45 years. I've never seen a panel switch. and this explains perfectly Revertive Pulse signalling. Learning to write software to scratch your own itch is a great thing to do.
@davida1hiwaaynet Жыл бұрын
Very cool project! Thanks for explaining how it works and showing your code in action! It's very rewarding to develop something like this and have it work!
@stephensalex Жыл бұрын
Sarah, you are just awesome!
@thewhitefalcon8539 Жыл бұрын
It's absolutely okay to say other people's code is bad, but it doesn't necessarily mean a lot, because everyone hates everyone else's code, as well as their own from 6 months ago.
@erininstereo47 Жыл бұрын
Learning from scratch on how to use modern software to interface with historic hardware is peak technological badassery.
@youritguy1 Жыл бұрын
That’s was an awesome videos. Loved how your able to link systems that are 70 or 80 years old to the 21s century. It was very interesting and entertaining.
@roleyrevs_DRZs Жыл бұрын
This is awesome and very inspiring. I love code that affects physical objects / machines, and I love old phone equipment. Well done to you for getting to the end of the objective. You make reference of New Zealand as one of the locations that there is a working phone exchange of similar age to the one in the video. I live in New Zealand and have played with the exchange at the Taranaki Aviation Transport and Technology Museum. I was completely mesmerized by it we went for a hour, I stayed the whole day!. Keep up the cool content and your infectious enthusiasm for what you are doing.
@HeffeJeffe78 Жыл бұрын
Happy for you! FYI: "f*** yes!" is actual programmer-to-programmer dialogue when something works properly.
@compu85 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations!! I know you've been working at this for some time. The work you and the other volunteers have been doing is nothing short of amazing. The effort needed to get the switching systems to do more than just "make a phone ring" isn't lost on me :)
@ConnectionsMuseum Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I think that most of the time, we only demo the basics, and it's nice to hear that someone appreciates all of the other cool stuff too
@compu85 Жыл бұрын
@@ConnectionsMuseum It's like the difference between getting a Jukebox to play a record placed on the turntable, and getting it to make automatic selections, skip empty slots, and count coins properly - in both cases it "does something" but one is much further from the machine's original intent!
@dinkc64 Жыл бұрын
Wow this is one of my favorite episodes - great job Sarah! thank you for going into detail with the code and how things work I really really enjoy every second of this one, bravo! 🎉
@TallinuTV Жыл бұрын
That is fascinating. Getting devices from such distant eras to work together correctly is pretty impressive. Nice job!
@figueroalabs Жыл бұрын
This was very exciting. I was jumping up and down when the call got through. I used asterisk back in my previous life for non standard scenarios, so I know how hard this was. I'll certainly have a look at the code and enjoy it as well.
@cincodenada Жыл бұрын
This is SO COOL, hot dang!! I love integrating things from such wildly different eras like this. You're a brave soul for diving head-first into kernel drivers and learning C as you go - I'm very impressed you not only survived, but emerged victorious! And the diagrams in this video are next-level. "D4 -> 4 wires, 5 feet -> computer!" put a huge smile on my face 😄
@jeffkutz4917 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely impressed with the size of the job you took on, and accomplished so gloriously, especially handling the exceptions!
@joenichols52536 ай бұрын
Thanks for making all these videos this is awesome to see this work the way you set it up
@kehawk2 Жыл бұрын
Amazing and congratulations! Even for modern peripherals, writing kernel drivers is not for the faint of heart! I love your enthusiasm and hope to visit your museum someday!
@brettman273 Жыл бұрын
This is fantastically awesome. I got no other words. Well done!
@sampofilms Жыл бұрын
❤This is amazing. I had the pleasure of visiting your museum 2 years ago and I am always amazed by the devotion to preserve such beautiful "antiquated" tech. Thank you for showcasing and explaining such incredible feats of technology.
@cabrooks2000 Жыл бұрын
Great job! Asterisk is not a small thing to jump into, that you were able to overcome is, um, ‘nuances’, is really remarkable! Hope I get to stop by the museum if I’m ever in town!
@ShayBlez Жыл бұрын
Happy noises quietly in the background :} Kickass, Sara. Thank you for sharing everything you do.
@frankrasmusson5052 Жыл бұрын
Your explanations of switching are always informative and interesting. Linux computers have passed through this hobby room now and then. Keep the videos coming👍 And thank You for what you’ve done Sara👍
@russellbryant Жыл бұрын
Great job!! I spent years working on Asterisk. It still gets me excited to see such cool integration projects like this!
@juanalbertocamachobolanos26673 ай бұрын
This is superb!!! Thanks for teaching us about this kind of technology
@anonymouse-f4z Жыл бұрын
Great job. It is always great to learn a new skill and understand how things work at a detailed enough level to write something like this.
@DavoidJohnson Жыл бұрын
Your a legend making legendary advances in legendary equipment.
@BahamasRunner Жыл бұрын
Just great. I'm doing some programming myself so I can imagine how much effort you put into this. Congratuliations for this unique accomplishment!
@TastyBusiness Жыл бұрын
Wicked awesome, excellent work!
@AemonAlgiz Жыл бұрын
This is 10/10 content. This was a great view into the telephony system and made me remember my phreaking days. Thanks for the trip down memory lane :)
@adairw Жыл бұрын
Awesome work! As guy who appreciates all levels of telephony, this is insanely cool to see such old and new technology mashed together!
@cybermunk1310 ай бұрын
Love the attitude, I will do it myself. Think I know now why I got hooked to this channel. PROBLEMSOLVING.
@MartinPiper6502 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding. Relying on returned pulses to the sender and telling it to only start or stop seems rather prone to return signal noise and latency.
@gregorymccoy679710 ай бұрын
Talk about jumping in with both feet! From zero to device driver is quite a feat. Great job.
@colonelmoustacheАй бұрын
You're incredibly skilled I'm amazed
@artpeary7358 Жыл бұрын
Nice work on how to make a panel switch work with other switches. Appreciate your efforts! An old bell switch man.
@maurvir3197 Жыл бұрын
As someone who does something similar professionally, putting comment references to documentation is pure gold. Great work on that, as you will no doubt thank yourself later when you have to fix something years later. As for Asterisk , I haven't played with that in ages, and honestly forgot it even existed. Still, I could see how it would be perfect for this application. All very cool!
@ducksauz Жыл бұрын
Wow! What an awesome project. Congrats on all your learning and hacking to make it happen!
@orbatos Жыл бұрын
This was incredibly interesting, great work!
@SteveW139 Жыл бұрын
This is awesome work. Love your enthusiasm, Sarah.
@amyslittlehelper Жыл бұрын
That was so phreaking cool! Very well done!
@JarradAB1 Жыл бұрын
This was amazing to watch!!!! Sooo cool
@josuelservin Жыл бұрын
I love it when someone foolishly walks into a problem an says "I can do this" having no idea what that entails and go on and actually do it and make an actual thing that works! This was amazing and helps to keep my faith in humanity que high.
@scarfboy Жыл бұрын
That "*bleep* yes"... I felt that :)
@kellingc Жыл бұрын
Awesome information. Thanks for posting this.
@nickfries4317 Жыл бұрын
This is awesome. Really enjoyed your explanation of how this all works.
@junknspam3 Жыл бұрын
You are amazing. Bridging old with new. I'm at a loss for words. From an old phone guy.
@KHoos Жыл бұрын
Congratulations on getting this connection working! Good to see Linux/Asterisk enabling old phone hardware to live on.
@lordmuntague Жыл бұрын
Impressive! Good job Sarah. 👍
@mutzbunny3 күн бұрын
I am so proud of you for going ahead and just writing the driver. I had similar situations, where people who knew how to code went like "nope, ill leave my fingers from it" and I went just "then frick you, ill do it" and well... it always was a pain XD so congrats on the driver
@ThomasGabrielsen Жыл бұрын
I know that feeling at 16:32 so well. It's wonderful!
@steffiiizh Жыл бұрын
This is so cool! Sara, great work. :)
@rb0326825 ай бұрын
Great info which is very well presented. Thank you!
@FarrellMcGovern Жыл бұрын
Wow, that is pretty impressive!! I know barely enough telephony to almost understand what you were doing, and know a little bit of C so that I can grasp the challenge, and that tells me you did something pretty freaking amazing! I have friends who worked for Bell Northern Research/Northern Telecom (later Nortel) who wrote some of the code that ran the switches Nortel sold. I am going to pass this video on to them as I am sure they will find it interesting!
@smrp1984 Жыл бұрын
A comment for comments sake, i like to tickle the algorithm! Great episode, I am so happy when I see people trying something a bit new or outside their fieldhouse and knock it out of the park.
@blenderbuch Жыл бұрын
This tech is so much out of my comfort zone but I watched it all, so interesting and well presented!
@PositionLight Жыл бұрын
I recall you did a more in depth revertive pulse explanation in a previous video. Perhaps you can link that in the description.
@ConnectionsMuseum Жыл бұрын
I think it was just the "Full Mechanical" one. kzbin.info/www/bejne/faTbY42pjsyafdk
@kelli217 Жыл бұрын
Yep, that's right up there with TTY devices, which originated right around the same time as that panel switch. I think the first Morkrum (predecessor of Teletype-in this case, the company, not the genericized word for the device) machine was around 1910, and the first panel switch around 1915. However, it isn't quite clear whether those first TTYs were using Baudot code or some proprietary solution. The company called their earliest codes "Blue Code" and "Green Code" and so it isn't possible to claim definitively that the Baudot code type of TTY, that Linux supports, was before 1915. Giving the panel switch the edge!
@johncloar1692 Жыл бұрын
Nice work coding. A lot of thing I did not know about the old time phone exchange. Thanks for the video.
@rogermiller5070 Жыл бұрын
Always love your videos Sarah
@jarrodtanner1986 Жыл бұрын
This is so interesting, I can't believe that Linux supports it with only a kernel module. Love learning something new everyday. Love the channel, keep up the good work. You did an amazing job and you should be proud of yourself for accomplishing such a task.
@LarixusSnydes4 ай бұрын
Wow, what an achievement! You have every reason to be proud of yourself. You might want to get in touch with Sam from "This museum is not obsolete" who is a maintainer (among various other things) on an ancient British Telephone exchange within his museum. You probably would have a lot of fun sparring with each other. Sam is a bit of a Homo Universalis, since he is proficient in so many different subjects and he stays humble and social.
@erikja1 Жыл бұрын
Wowza I love this!! Nice work!!
@barryyoung6159 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Sarah, you and the other Volunteers at the Communications Museum are achieving awesome things and sharing information in the engaging way you do is next level 😎
@johnrickard8512 Жыл бұрын
This was also a great example of how one can apply the principles of electrical engineering to computer code. The two domains can be quite interconnected if you allow them to be!
@maxheadrom3088 Жыл бұрын
Awesome! There's a great scene on the film "The Boston Strangler" that shows a switch working when they are trying to catch the killer. It's an awesome film and Tony Curtis plays the main character.
@esra_erimez Жыл бұрын
This is most impressive. I am quite simply in awe of your talents.
@Sonex1542 Жыл бұрын
Hoping to someday visit the museum. All of you up there with your vast knowledge is amazing. Im still lost after watching many videos on how that stuff works even at the mist basic level other than its magic.
@JoeHamelin Жыл бұрын
OMG! I just found that my favorite museum has a channel!
@jeffdobkin9478 Жыл бұрын
Amazing presentation. I never really thought about how a non-panel office received a call from a panel office. Now I know that the non-panel office "emulates" another panel office but with relays instead of panel equipment. I've used dahdi for POTS lines but never thought it could be used for signaling and for a panel switch, I'll bet that was complicated.
@renaudl8733 Жыл бұрын
Lol… I laughs at the last part of the video and clicked on every like, hot, cool, nice buttons to make sure you continue to make these videos. By the way, I’m in Canada and I intend to come over this summer. I d really enjoy a tour of that museum with you guys. Have a nice day !
@JohnBare747 Жыл бұрын
Great Job. I can relate to your excitement from developing a program that works correctly having done that myself when working for Ma Bell but I was in the computer environment talking to #4 X-bar machines through yet another computer pulling data daily from all the #4 switches. It was quite a task as the raw data was not consistent as they were from machines running various versions of their software and naturally they did not have a rigid protocol for data output as it was originally just expected to be read on a printout or screen by a person so an added space or a tab here and there did not matter but it sure did to my program as I had to allow for multiple instances of format on each and every data message that my program was parsing. I used the SpaceX approach, let it run and fix what breaks in the next version until I was able to output a report in the desired format that the users needed. Congratulations in getting up to speed in C language it is a satisfying thing to accomplish. A lot of the software I wrote was written in Perl, if you can do C Perl is very similar but does not need to be compiled and for applications that don't need the ultimate speed of C it's great, way faster than BASH but just write and run just like BASH/BOURNE Shell, great stuff.
@KeritechElectronics Жыл бұрын
A real deal hacker! I love your engineering. Give a big hug to the girls too, they really deserve it! Sam Battle (Look Mum No Computer / This Museum Is Not Obsolete) will surely be interested in the project :)
@jankkhvej Жыл бұрын
That's just pure gold, thank you!
@the-bizzy-bee Жыл бұрын
Im absolutely amazed the amount of backwards compatibility thats happening in this video! the fact that 1940's era equipment was effectively running what was emulation of the old way of signaling to keep the peace instead of fracturing the signal standard is flabbergasting.
@rossc12345 Жыл бұрын
❤ your reaction to the first time it worked 🎉
@nullify. Жыл бұрын
Damn, I got recommended this video. No idea older phone switching gear was mechanical. That's wild. Def would love to see this in person.
@AtreidaeChibiko Жыл бұрын
As someone who has worked with Asterisk (among other VoIP Systems, some asterisk based, some not) I can really appreciate how much effort this all took. One day when I'm in the states, I'll get my butt down to the museum.
@CoffeeOnRails Жыл бұрын
Super interesting. I'm setting up a phone system at work (currently trying to get h323 and sip to dance) and it was cool to see someone doing cool stuff with old and new tech. Earned a sub!
@danjenkins88 Жыл бұрын
This is such an amazing addition to Asterisk & DAHDI. Huge congratulations on getting this to work!
@APWaddington Жыл бұрын
As someone that has a similar level of programing knowledge and almost none on C and the same level on the backroom knowledge of telephone switching this was an incredibly informative video of both current and okd technology and getting the two to play nicely together. With some humor thrown in as well, loves Sarah's reaction to the first successful call through here Franken switch system
@jimmypetrock Жыл бұрын
Love the excitement at 16:33! Yes! Great job! Love these series of videos! Keep up the good work!
@theantipope43544 ай бұрын
Awesome work, Sara! I'm a hardware person, so, faced with this problem, I'd likely go for a much less creative & interesting solution in hardware.
@aatheus Жыл бұрын
Nicely done! Your nerdity and appreciation for this old tech always brings joy
@BSDKllr Жыл бұрын
now you need to connect 2 asterisk servers using the Sarah driver and place calls over it! 1920's trunk style!