Sabian Cymbals Factory Tour Part 1 of 4

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@markhealey3660
@markhealey3660 6 жыл бұрын
I have been playing Sabian since 2007. Best cymbal made according to my ears. Thank you.
@paulcoverdale8312
@paulcoverdale8312 16 күн бұрын
There’s something so special that adds to the sound an tone that machines can’t replicate! No matter how great the machine is.❤❤❤🙏🙏🙏👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧🥃🥃💎💎
@mexicanmaggot666
@mexicanmaggot666 11 жыл бұрын
Ever since I started drumming, there's no other cymbal in the world I'd rather play than a Sabian. And it's because of their very mission statement and the amazing roster of people that work for and with the company. R.I.P. Bob Zildjian. Thank you for making amazing cymbals for people to enjoy.
@funkodrummer9415
@funkodrummer9415 11 жыл бұрын
Love Sabian and always will and always will play Sabian and nothing else, r.i.p. bob zildjian thank you for making kick ass cymbals
@bernarddowd6446
@bernarddowd6446 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a truck driver from Halifax, NS, one province over from NB. I have delivered to the Sabian factory numerous times and had the tour there. I have talked to some of the people who hand hammer the high end cymbals. Really nice people, even talked to a guy who made Neil Peart's cymbals.
@DemetrioAlbidrez
@DemetrioAlbidrez 8 ай бұрын
The Final stage of each of the cymbals made . Sounds like a shattering of glass the Perfection of Making SABINA Cymbals !! Great 👍 Video !!
@MrJireh09
@MrJireh09 10 жыл бұрын
By far THE BEST cymbals...and ALWAYS putting new stuff on the market!
@Burps___
@Burps___ 7 жыл бұрын
MrJireh09 Paiste?
@thenecropolis_ov_former_lo3396
@thenecropolis_ov_former_lo3396 6 жыл бұрын
Cool One more like dinner plates lol. nah use what you like but I think sabian is better.
@afterlifeyt9073
@afterlifeyt9073 7 ай бұрын
sabians suck bro meinl or zildjian better
@MrJireh09
@MrJireh09 7 ай бұрын
@@afterlifeyt9073 dude!! you resurected an old post LOL...10 years later i can tell you ZILDJIAN and sabien are great...never try MEINL
@tc7362
@tc7362 6 жыл бұрын
Impressive, it's nice to see in this technology age that actual hands on craftsmanship still exists...
@axismc33
@axismc33 5 жыл бұрын
Yup, but this is from 2010
@rushton84
@rushton84 9 жыл бұрын
Took the tour of this factory yesterday! Great bunch of people there and they even re-buffed and re-logo'd one of my older cymbals and it's like new!
@jamesarnold5554
@jamesarnold5554 5 жыл бұрын
I've always been proud to play Sabian cymbals!!!!!
@dennisn1672
@dennisn1672 6 жыл бұрын
Been using the AXX brilliant finish for 35 years. Never let me down. Some are over 12 years old and still sound amazing. Sabian is the best cymbals ever produced by far.
@Vivi2372
@Vivi2372 5 жыл бұрын
@Ian Soberano what a childish view of the world you have. You do realize SABIAN was founded by a Zildjian right? The name isn't 300 years old but the pedigree sure as hell is. Your loyalty to brands is rather naive at best.
@SXI96
@SXI96 7 жыл бұрын
I love how environmentally conscious and sustainable Sabian is. They conserve water usage and recycle literally everything. AWESOME job! Not to mention they also make incredible cymbals. Just listen to Dave Abbruzzese's drumming with Pearl Jam.
@JoeyP322
@JoeyP322 6 жыл бұрын
I used to think that cymbals were expensive... after watching this I think they’re not as expensive as they should be!!! Man, what a process !!!
@Dummertrummer
@Dummertrummer 5 жыл бұрын
I guess many drummers (incl myself) had that wake-up call. I couldn't believe my eyes when I was younger and saw that price-tag. :P
@johncole4882
@johncole4882 3 жыл бұрын
Shhhh
@RoughAndWretchedRAW
@RoughAndWretchedRAW 5 жыл бұрын
Gotta say: I am impressed by how much of the process at Sabian is actually done by hand. I watched a video by Zildjian and most of their process is automated. Then again, it does back up the family fall out story that caused the founding of Sabian. One brother being the face who retained the original company and the other who was in the factory and founded Sabian. Automated produces a good quality but only hand crafting will produce unique and one of a kind results.
@rjsal246
@rjsal246 5 жыл бұрын
Rough And Wretched R.A.W. Very true, do you think they are still producing them the same way?
@RoughAndWretchedRAW
@RoughAndWretchedRAW 5 жыл бұрын
@@rjsal246 No clue. All I can say is automation may produce quantity and repeatability but it does not produce quality and uniqueness. Then again, I just watched a video that said the pro or amateur status of a drummer can be determined solely by their drum set up. Vocalists are using autotune and backing tracks and folks can't seem to play without click tracks. So maybe quality. talent and individuality are no longer relevant.
@Customwinder1
@Customwinder1 4 жыл бұрын
The HH and HHX and artisan cymbals are among the lines still produced the old way. AA are automated anvil. And all of the cheaper cymbals are mass produced. And individuality and talent still count. Top 40 and the like is made for the masses. To make money. Go see a local band and support local music 👍
@rsilvers129
@rsilvers129 Жыл бұрын
they are virtually identical. Both use automatic hammer machines. Sabian just chose to show a hand hammered model being made. That is a very tiny percentage of what they sell.
@TheSuperfakir
@TheSuperfakir 6 жыл бұрын
Sabian son uno de los mejores platos. Su brillo. Su claridad. Y su gran variedad de platillos y sonidos. Realmente son geniales.
@joshlybecker3476
@joshlybecker3476 6 жыл бұрын
Pretty dope knowing where my cymbals were born. Thanks for an amazing product ladies n gents!! #Sabian4life
@beAllbugger
@beAllbugger 12 жыл бұрын
Yeah, if you spend the dough you can find some fine cymbals excluding no brand names. I've always found Paiste 2002's to be the most sound quality consistent, but i currently have a motley collection of Zildjians and I like them alot.
@randysanchez8188
@randysanchez8188 4 жыл бұрын
i have a TAMA drumset but i use both ZILDJIAN,SABIAN and PAISTE cymbals depending what sound i like and depends on a song,
@earlbrackett6508
@earlbrackett6508 7 жыл бұрын
Sabian's constant innovation in new cymbals and quality control maintains their #1 status...Ive got a 40 year old pair of hats made in their Italian plant...just beautiful...
@Atomic_Haggis
@Atomic_Haggis 9 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. It's great to see the diversity between Zildjian and Sabian. Quite a few different techniques between the two. Thanks for sharing this.
@ThaDrumaH
@ThaDrumaH 14 жыл бұрын
way to go guys.. vids like this are THE most awesome thing. thanks to you and Sabian for posting this. Chris
@TheCarelessAquarius
@TheCarelessAquarius 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a Sabian guy and will be for life. When I first started playing years ago late 80’s early 90’s I played only Zildjian. I ended up playing guitar professionally in a rock band for years. After touring millions of miles, being signed to three record deals. I’ve came back around and am in a position that I can actually go back to practicing the drums again. My drummer always used Sabian and that’s where my love of this company came from. The fact that Bob broke away from Zildjian and started his own successful cymbal company. I love the underdog story and always will!
@MK-ze8xu
@MK-ze8xu 6 жыл бұрын
I really hope these guys get paid some good money. This is pretty much a skilled trade or craft and then being there as long as they have
@bryandrums32
@bryandrums32 5 жыл бұрын
M K dam right
@doknox
@doknox 4 жыл бұрын
For real. Plus some of those cymbals go for 5-600 a piece. I paid 900 for a zildjian hi hat crash and ride. It's worth it though. Cheap cymbals sound like just clanking metal.
@Customwinder1
@Customwinder1 5 жыл бұрын
I've been getting together a full set of Sabian cymbals for my kits. Really old 90's AA series. And scored an old 18" AAX Xplosion crash . They sll sound great !
@crashboombang8163
@crashboombang8163 5 жыл бұрын
Very happy with my 13" hats and 21" ride 23 years and counting!
@codys_shelf
@codys_shelf 9 жыл бұрын
Love the sound of the unpolished AA around 8 minutes. Hopefully they will release a line that mimics that sound.
@indieHindleyMusic
@indieHindleyMusic 12 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: SABIAN was named after the first 2 letters of Bob Zildjian's 3 kids Sally,Billy & Andy. :)
@kaan898
@kaan898 6 жыл бұрын
another fun fact,sabi means kid,children in Turkish and -an Armenian annex... Sabian...
@petegabittas3410
@petegabittas3410 2 жыл бұрын
Kind of fucked up how it all works so perfectly!
@unngabungaa
@unngabungaa 11 жыл бұрын
RIP Bob Zildjian. Thank you for leaving us with your legacy.
@ArnieJames666
@ArnieJames666 2 жыл бұрын
I've always been all over the place with cymbals, soultone ride, aax crash on the left, paiste 2002 crash on the right, and zildjian quick beat hi hats. Somehow, it works. But I had a 22" aax metal ride for 15 years before it cracked right under the bell. Best, longest lasting cymbal I ever had. I'd love to find another one some day.
@rodstewart74
@rodstewart74 6 жыл бұрын
I sent my Sabian 16" AAX-Plosion crash cymbal (Brilliant) to be changed to a "Natural" finish to this factory in Maine. I can't wait to hear how it sounds in about 6-8 weeks UPDATE: Received my cymbal last month and it sounds amazing. Has a more dry echo hum that's consistent with what I play, plus I can't see my distinct finger prints as much as before. Traditional is the way. Next my 18" cymbal. Thanks, Sabian UPDATE: Had my 18" AAX-Plosion cymbal finished to "Natural" and I like the results!
@litchar
@litchar 4 жыл бұрын
Sabians are Canadian and this factory is in Meductic New Brunswick but I'm glad you got good results from whatever body shop in Maine refinished them for you.
@rodstewart74
@rodstewart74 4 жыл бұрын
@@litchar Yeah, they did a pretty good solid finish on both my cymbals and it was very cheap. It still shows the "CANADA" signature stamp on them, which I love knowing that's where they originated from. I think they are a joint team between boarders. Very communicative and trustworthy from my experience.
@gunarsbrants8429
@gunarsbrants8429 7 жыл бұрын
Bravo guys ! Absolutely awesome ! Loved the tour and I love using your symbols in my studio.! Cheers !
@21kpatriot
@21kpatriot 11 жыл бұрын
We will all miss you Robert Zildjian! Hopefully your people will carry on your fine cymbal making so we always have you with us!
@mustangfan1995
@mustangfan1995 13 жыл бұрын
i actually went there for a class trip last week for music class, it actually pretty interesting
@eagleflyfree3975
@eagleflyfree3975 5 жыл бұрын
I love it ...Sabian is my favourite 🤘😁😍
@Customwinder1
@Customwinder1 5 жыл бұрын
Just got myself some old AA cymbals. Love them . They sound great.
@omukssbm
@omukssbm 7 жыл бұрын
Hand hammering cymbals at Sabian for over 25 years, longer than I've been alive. Now THAT is some dedication.
@bbierstedt
@bbierstedt 11 жыл бұрын
I had no idea that cymbals were that labor intensive. You really get your moneys worth.
@christopherdunn317
@christopherdunn317 5 жыл бұрын
Thats why they cost 400 to 500 and up these guys an not min wage.
@tysonrinker5958
@tysonrinker5958 5 жыл бұрын
It's crazy right?
@nelsonrodriguez4199
@nelsonrodriguez4199 8 жыл бұрын
Great educational video for us drummers, it's very cool to know this way where your cymbals came from, all my cymbals are Sabian except for my Ride wich is a Zildjian A Custom Ping Ride wich I love but I also want to purchase the HH Raw Bell Dry Ride, it sounds really sweet in the videos. Keep up the good work making the best cymbals out there!! 👍
@jmromero6381
@jmromero6381 6 жыл бұрын
nelson Rodriguez Love the ping ride! I always asked the drummers I played with to use it whenever they thought they should. Especially along with my guitar solos, so they didn't suck as much.
@ruff2007
@ruff2007 5 жыл бұрын
great video.i'll love this job.just think bands that make hit records use these cymbals.thats the pride of this craft.good job sabian crew.
@markhealey3660
@markhealey3660 6 жыл бұрын
Love these cymbals. AA, AAX, HH, HHX, Paragon, Radia, Vault, Mike Portnoy Max Stax, I play these lines. Favorite cymbals lines, Paragon and HH.
@EmersonCapuano
@EmersonCapuano 13 жыл бұрын
Both cymbals have beautiful sounds
@mrbucket75
@mrbucket75 10 жыл бұрын
Im always curious if any of these guys play for recreation at home. Seems like they have a love for it and would like to try what they do at home. Seems like a great job if they do....
@OllieBonugli
@OllieBonugli 10 жыл бұрын
16:30 the posters on the top right, the furthest left is The Rev:)
@zamek4744
@zamek4744 7 жыл бұрын
And Tomas Haake
@JordanDormer
@JordanDormer 13 жыл бұрын
I love that The Rev is in the background in one of the rooms
@briangallagher9899
@briangallagher9899 5 жыл бұрын
thanksgiving must be fun at the Zildjian house with the brothers ! !
@ASpoonfulOfJimmy
@ASpoonfulOfJimmy 5 жыл бұрын
The cymbal lathing looks amazing
@DrSovertake
@DrSovertake 7 жыл бұрын
So satisfying to see it being lathed
@Burps___
@Burps___ 7 жыл бұрын
Bet these guys cook a mean pizza!! 🍕
@axismc33
@axismc33 5 жыл бұрын
I will eat a bronze pizza👍😂
@anthonyarruda1145
@anthonyarruda1145 5 жыл бұрын
I freakin love my xsr set it is simply amazing you guys rock
@samithmordraus20
@samithmordraus20 8 жыл бұрын
God bless Canada
@memoton
@memoton 8 жыл бұрын
its so satisfying looking at the machine put on the logo:0
@Bob-nu3xe
@Bob-nu3xe 6 жыл бұрын
Great video great cymbals many thanks
@mylesjarvis7571
@mylesjarvis7571 5 жыл бұрын
I can't imagine hand hammering on cymbals for 25 years!! Incredible!
@21kpatriot
@21kpatriot 11 жыл бұрын
I hear ya man! but if you were in the testing vault, it could be a cymbal stand and you could test faster that way! But you'd have to sanitize them before sending them out! A great cymbal sound can be orgasmic. Imagine the caution signs in that section of the plant!
@TrashMojo
@TrashMojo 12 жыл бұрын
i love sabian, have since day one of drumming, but i do agree with you meinl are doing some incredible things, i do rather enjoy the sound of their classic custom line,
@michaelhembree4167
@michaelhembree4167 5 жыл бұрын
Hello im a big fan of sabian.. Cymbals..i got set of drums but ineed a crash ride and a crash..my set didnt come with any..ca you please help me out..on some..
@drumstudio2000
@drumstudio2000 10 жыл бұрын
I have both zildjian and sabían and sound really great. So muy congrats to these two companies but... still its rare to see bob zildjian promoting a sabían brand... lol. What do u think about it guys?
@EarosioN
@EarosioN 10 жыл бұрын
rob zildjian founded sabian after a family dispute know your stuff
@FanaticDrummer
@FanaticDrummer 8 жыл бұрын
He founded Sabian. He also used the first two letters of his kids names to make the name Sabian. In the company break up, Sabian got all the original artisans. Thats why Sabian surpassed Zildjian in quality and experience for hand hammered products. Zildjian had to train a new factory of noobs lol.
@DS-wo8wr
@DS-wo8wr 6 жыл бұрын
Actually, Robert got the Canada plant that then produced the Zildjian K Series. The US plant that then produced the Zildjian A Series remained in Zildjian hands...
@Lakk6Metal
@Lakk6Metal 7 жыл бұрын
Im so curios why there isnt a viewing on how they make Chinas or Gongs, how they make different percussions and so on. Crashes, splashes and rides are shown yes. But the other aint. Why ? . Kevin , drummer from Norway.
@enjoichoclate5
@enjoichoclate5 12 жыл бұрын
tilt your cymbals toward you when your crashing on a cymbal try to hit the body of the cymbal instead of the edge because that's where they split also don't tighten them down tightly I don't have mine tightened at all no felt at the top just the wing nut sure you don't have to do that if you don't want too but try to loosen it up as much as possible because when you restrict a cymbal when you hit it ends up flexing way too much thus cracking or splitting
@Burps___
@Burps___ 7 жыл бұрын
Video is a superb reminder that no two cymbals are precisely the same, even within the same model, so try several to see which is most pleasing to your ear. 👂
@davidcaro8217
@davidcaro8217 Жыл бұрын
Charlie Brown's right arm has got to be jacked up by now!
@friedpickles342
@friedpickles342 5 жыл бұрын
Only sabian I've used thus far is a 15 inch hhx studio crash. Sounds good to me. But doesn't cut through in live gigs. I use my zildjian a medium crashes. 16 n 17 inch.
@Ytsejam729
@Ytsejam729 10 жыл бұрын
the Groove Ride is one of the best cymbals i have ever heard
@omegapryo
@omegapryo 12 жыл бұрын
the lathing process blew my mind
@MrSir2552
@MrSir2552 9 жыл бұрын
16:14 They have a Jimmy poster. That makes me happy. :)
@kwamebrown5547
@kwamebrown5547 9 жыл бұрын
Brings a tear to my eye:'(
@CalvinLimuel
@CalvinLimuel 13 жыл бұрын
are all sticks used by Sabian Dave Weckl's Signature Sticks from Vic Firth?
@bennyboney
@bennyboney 4 жыл бұрын
I got my first sabian cymbals (used) for free. They came from a closed down whorehouse in oslo.. loved the sound and still have them 20 years after ..
@Customwinder1
@Customwinder1 4 жыл бұрын
Warehouse 😂
@garoshamirian
@garoshamirian 6 жыл бұрын
Can I have mine with pepperoni and olives and a bit well done please?
@drummercarson896
@drummercarson896 6 жыл бұрын
My favorite Cymbals
@WeightyGhost1
@WeightyGhost1 14 жыл бұрын
Some of these guys have boring jobs so we can have exciting musical endeavours. Gotta love em.
@tscoffey1
@tscoffey1 6 жыл бұрын
9:54 - And that guy keeps a better time on that cymbal than I ever would.
@dimidomo7946
@dimidomo7946 8 жыл бұрын
I must have missed it...how are the Zildjian and Sabian names related or tied together? Is Bob Zildjian related to the other Turkish cymbal smiths?
@nickymooncymbals
@nickymooncymbals 8 жыл бұрын
Dimi Domo Yes...Bob Zildjian is (was, sadly...he has passed away) of the Zildjian cymbal making family and used to be a big part of the company until a disagreement led to a split where he took over the Canadian facility and started Sabian.
@MrJCTroutman
@MrJCTroutman 8 жыл бұрын
I want a complete setup hand picked from Area 51!
@griffedbat
@griffedbat 5 жыл бұрын
Is the demand for cymbals that great? I wonder how many these guys make in a shift?
@francescopiccolo4135
@francescopiccolo4135 10 жыл бұрын
22:04 czechoslovakia?????? how old is this video?
@chippullin
@chippullin 6 жыл бұрын
2010
@Marcii1995
@Marcii1995 13 жыл бұрын
@BuriedfoREVer I don't kow if I remember right but I think that Zildjian was lead by two brothers until they argued and one of them found his own cymbal company called Sabian. Am I right guys?
@JoshGarsideMeyers
@JoshGarsideMeyers 5 жыл бұрын
Good to see Charlie Brown is keeping busy these days.
@devilsoffspring5519
@devilsoffspring5519 5 жыл бұрын
Electric guitars and basses, on the other hand, can pretty much be inexpensively mass-produced to very high quality standards using computer controlled machine tools. This stuff is *work!!*
@akansara3881
@akansara3881 4 жыл бұрын
Are your molds of graphite or cast iron please help
@ChickenThug55
@ChickenThug55 5 жыл бұрын
So where are all the toppings? I see lots of pizzas being taken out of the oven!
@JakeTheDrummer18
@JakeTheDrummer18 14 жыл бұрын
@BuriedfoREVer isnt he the brother of the guys that runs Zildjian?
@shonnyno
@shonnyno 8 жыл бұрын
I am interested in hand cymbals only, but its very very hard to find good hand cymbals :( I like hand cymbals of ERT Orchestra and Arena Verona, but no idea about model and size. :(
@TheHonkcat
@TheHonkcat 12 жыл бұрын
Wanted 2 learn to play drums when I got older, now I can't because serious neck problems, what a bummer
@Bigmike3406E
@Bigmike3406E 5 жыл бұрын
I have Sabian on my Ludwig double base outa plus kit . Blue vistalite kit
@jonpap3819
@jonpap3819 10 жыл бұрын
17:30 behind him the poster on the wall Jimmy The Rev Sullivan
@citylights2765
@citylights2765 6 жыл бұрын
Jon Pap also, Tomas Haake!
@markdemell8056
@markdemell8056 5 жыл бұрын
Charlie Brown , what a name.Some process for sure.
@DrummingNonStop
@DrummingNonStop 13 жыл бұрын
This is why Sabian is the best.
@Fernaboz
@Fernaboz 10 жыл бұрын
Looks like a good job. How do i get it ? :)
@stevespencer8904
@stevespencer8904 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder how many freebies are given to staff???
@metalhead55
@metalhead55 14 жыл бұрын
@TheDigitalMafia actually they're made in the Eastcoast of Canada in a town called Meductic in New Brunswick. no Eskimo's just loggers and the best damn partyers you'll ever meet. come check us out sometime.
@MarceloRezende75
@MarceloRezende75 11 жыл бұрын
what do they do with rejected cymbals on quality control process?
@net6403
@net6403 Жыл бұрын
if charlie brown does the hand hammering do they got snoopy there too
@drumguy1955
@drumguy1955 6 жыл бұрын
I want a cymbal made that the logos stay on after repeated cleanings. Is that asking to much?
@paulrichards6826
@paulrichards6826 3 жыл бұрын
I don't really care for the logos on cymbals. I much prefer to trust my own ears. It's a bit like buying wine based upon the label on the bottle. You have to taste it to decide whether or not you like it.
@LarsLeeDrums
@LarsLeeDrums 12 жыл бұрын
Did anyone notice the Rev's poster around 15:00?
@patrickmayer9566
@patrickmayer9566 6 жыл бұрын
Incredible footage,saw just how these are created!now I know...😐blacksmith 101..old craft shown here,,,cheers...land o' lakes,wi.usa...
@paulswang6428
@paulswang6428 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this used to be a hidden craft, even so the secret of the musical inglet is not opened yet. So, this is the Canadian factory? Cheers!
@davidfriesen7748
@davidfriesen7748 6 жыл бұрын
Great Product !!
@keauxgeigh
@keauxgeigh 6 жыл бұрын
I have a Phil's Choice ride. It's a lot darker than the rides he used with Genesis (I think he wasn't in Genesis when it came out), but don't care, it has his signature on it and is still a quality ride.
@mackeymoran
@mackeymoran 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe u can donate a set of cymbals for our church here in the philippines pls... God bless you..
@theduke6951
@theduke6951 6 жыл бұрын
I bet your church is gaining funds from members, why don't you ask your pastors to buy one since a set of sabian cymbals are not that expensive. Try spend small amount of your church fund If you wanted to have a good one. Business is business, church is not an excuse.
@joyddeepkumar2034
@joyddeepkumar2034 6 жыл бұрын
YOU KNOW THESE PEOPLE ARE WORKING THEIR ASS OFF.... REALLY HARD... WITH A LOT OF EXPERIENCE AND CRAFTMANSHIP... MAYBE YOU SHOULD DONATE THEM SOME GODLY THINGS... OR SIMPLY PAY FOR THE CYMBALS .... CHURCHES HAVE A LOT OF MONEY IN THAT BOX....
@asmirr4696
@asmirr4696 5 жыл бұрын
shame your self ,maybe you should donate money to them ,idiot
@mrmisfit635
@mrmisfit635 5 жыл бұрын
Insensitive jerks...maybe his church is poor? You guys are morons with little mental ability.
@DrummerJacob
@DrummerJacob 5 жыл бұрын
@@mrmisfit635 her? You're talking about a person named Mark, and you say her? If you're gonna defend them, get their gender correct, otherwise who are you defending? Someone you don't know even the most basic detail about?
@jaymoney1981
@jaymoney1981 12 жыл бұрын
Robert Zildjian, son of Avedis Zildjian III, the head of the Avedis Zildjian Company. Family tradition had it that the head of the company would pass the company down to the oldest son (Armand). After Avedis Zildjian III died in 1979, Armand (who was President of Zildjian at the time) became Chairman of the Board. This eventually led to a family feud and a legal dispute between Robert and Armand that resulted in Robert leaving Zildjian to form the rival Sabian company.
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