Muslim Men, Misogyny and Masculinity with Hamza Tzortzis

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The Thinking Muslim

The Thinking Muslim

Күн бұрын

After a brief pause, we are back and now on KZbin video. In this episode, we explore with @HamzaTzortzisOfficial the crisis of the modern Muslim man. We live in a fast-paced world dominated by technology. Social media has enhanced our lives and given space for Muslims to build networks, raise the profile of beleaguered members of our ummah and forward the call of Islam.
With the goodness that comes from this compression of time and space, there are also challenges. In their eagerness to contribute to da’wah, many young men often lack the necessary characters to meet its requirements. Borrowing from the worst marketing strategies, they employ click-bait, shock and awe tactics and cheap stunts as a shortcut to achieve electronic likes and fame. Response videos and futile debates are used to curry favour with their growing base.
Hamza Tzortzis shares the same concerns about this approach to dawah. We ask him about his journey and how he believes the community must address the absence of good mentoring and a programme of personal development. We also discuss the general perceptions, right or wrong, about young Muslim men.
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The Thinking Muslim Podcast Episode 81
Time stamps
0:00 - 3:00 - Introduction
3:00 - 6:11 - Have you changed since he started out in da’wah?
6:11 - 12:10 - Do you regret starting da’wah so early?
12:10 - 14:00 - Are you being too tough on yourself?
14:00 - 20:17 - A letter to your 22 year old self
20:17 - 29:15 - The state of Muslim KZbinrs
29:15 - 32:38 - Western marketing techniques
32:38 - 39:15 - The impact of neoliberalism and the self
39:15 - 46:05 - The ‘RedPill’ response
46:05 - 55:25 - Misogyny and Patriarchy
55:25 - 1:05:40 - Andrew Tate?
1:05:40 - 1:06:55 - Hamza’s advice to Andrew Tate
1:06:55 - 1:14:00 - Is Andrew Tate a role model for young men?
1:14:00 - 1:25:20 - What to place in a Tarbiyyah programme
1:25:20 - 1:28:10 - What about liberalism?
1:28:10 - 1:35:29 - Mentoring programmes

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@HamzaTzortzisOfficial
@HamzaTzortzisOfficial Жыл бұрын
JazakAllahkhair for the opportunity habibi.
@browntaint6916
@browntaint6916 Жыл бұрын
May Allah reward you greatly Hamza
@TheThinkingMuslim
@TheThinkingMuslim Жыл бұрын
BarakhAllah feek brother. It was a pleasure to have you.
@siddiq6575
@siddiq6575 Жыл бұрын
May Allah bless you brother. I enjoyed the conversation.
@MZD15
@MZD15 Жыл бұрын
Ustad Hamza you inspire me
@siddiq6575
@siddiq6575 Жыл бұрын
In the name of Allah the most gracious the most merciful. I humbly disagree with your perspective on the role model problem, and here is why: My perspective is that it is better for daees to teach that a materially successful figure, like a successful businessman, a popular footballer, kickboxer, tiktoker, tv star, ...etc is not the role model of the believer Muslim. The Prophet peace be upon him said “A lady from Bani Israel was nursing her child at her breast when a handsome rider passed by her. She said, 'O Allah ! Make my child like him.' On that the child left her breast, and facing the rider said, 'O Allah! Do not make me like him.' The child then started to suck her breast again. (Abu Huraira further said, "As if I were now looking at the Prophet sucking his finger (in way of demonstration.") After a while the people passed by, with a lady slave and she (i.e. the child's mother) said, 'O Allah! Do not make my child like this (slave girl)!, On that the child left her breast and said, 'O Allah! Make me like her.' When she asked why, the child replied, 'The rider is one of the tyrants while this slave girl is falsely accused of theft and illegal sexual intercourse.” - Sahih al-Bukhari 3436 I also remind you, as an example, of an action of an early Muslim leader, Umar ibn al-Khatab, when he demoted a genius commander named Khalid ibn al-Walid to promote in his place Abu Ubayda ibn al-Jarrah, who was not superior to Khalid in a purely secular sense, but Abu Ubayda was one of the earliest Muslims, he embraced Islam a day after Abu Bakr, earlier than both Umar and Khalid, and he is one of “the ten to whom Paradise was promised”. Opinions differ as to why Umar made his decision, but many agree that Umar wanted to make sure that Muslims don't adopt a secular view of success. There are numerous factors of success, and we should prioritize the factors that Allah prioritizes. There is an advise that I have learned from you brother Hamza that I hold dearly ever since I heard it. It is “to prioritize what Islam prioritizes”. In this context, I am wary of giving too much consideration to the secular trends of some of the youth, or the majority of youth. I think they (the youth) need to be taught to find the scholars rather than the scholars be taught to find the youth. I conclude by a reminder that the success of dawah is not always reducible to how many believers or true followers of Islam there are, as The prophet peace be upon said, “Some nations were displayed before me. A prophet would pass in front of me with one man, and another with two men, and another with a group of people. and another with nobody with him” - Sahih al-Bukhari 5752. Nobody can do a better job of dawah than a prophet. Clearly, sometimes, neither the scholar nor the daee is the blameworthy. I love you for the sake of Allah. Assalamu Alaikum.
@IsmailKamdar
@IsmailKamdar Жыл бұрын
Glad to see the Thinking Muslim podcast in video format, excellent topic and discussion to start with. Hope to see a lot more of these in the future.
@TheThinkingMuslim
@TheThinkingMuslim Жыл бұрын
Hope to have you on Shaykh very soon inshallah - jazakallah khair for your kind words
@IsmailKamdar
@IsmailKamdar Жыл бұрын
@@TheThinkingMuslim in shaa Allah, looking forward to that
@Tippy257
@Tippy257 Жыл бұрын
Definitely prefer this here 👍
@syedjaved6702
@syedjaved6702 9 ай бұрын
Mashallah, internet has become asbaab to spread visuals and audios to each and every human habitation of globe, but at the same time it is felt that reverts to islam more true as compared to those who claim to have been hereditory muslim, however, one is free to dissent the instant perception.
@OmniTranscend
@OmniTranscend Жыл бұрын
Everytime I listen to Hamza I learn so much, and it opens my minds to new avenues to explore thoughts into different ideas
@TheThinkingMuslim
@TheThinkingMuslim Жыл бұрын
A refreshing thinker.
@monoteista528
@monoteista528 10 ай бұрын
Humza is a great asset, amazing brother. I really like the Host , the way he add his points to the conversation when its required. The host is very good at directing the discussion while not overtaking it.
@d.bcooper2271
@d.bcooper2271 2 ай бұрын
hAmza
@usmansabir1407
@usmansabir1407 7 ай бұрын
Brother Hamza's logical and rational approach and the way he breaks things down and explains in granular detail is a delight. I have a short attention span but MashAllah you never get tired to listening to him. note: your mics are a bit too good, picking a lot of background sounds.
@1OddlyOdd
@1OddlyOdd Жыл бұрын
Wallahi Hamza Tzortzis is one of the most based men right now, may Allah keep him steadfast on his deen and increase his knowledge ameen
@akifkhan2932
@akifkhan2932 Жыл бұрын
So happy to see y’all made the shift to KZbin and in a studio MA! Keep up the great work. I’ve been listening since Dr Jallals lecture series on Islam and liberalism way back in Covid 2020!
@TheThinkingMuslim
@TheThinkingMuslim Жыл бұрын
Jzk Brother Akif, May Allah accept from all of us
@alib7489
@alib7489 Жыл бұрын
Alhamdulillah. Been waiting for this one
@shifa6874
@shifa6874 Жыл бұрын
I don't know why Hamza is an extremely relatable person to me, the easiest scholar so far even as a woman n as an empath I embrace these types of vibes, when I listen to him it's like the man of this earth as compare to most of the scholars n da'es i feel like they are aliens n not from here, so hard to relatable as a human being. It's not a compliment it's a soul thing. Maybe people here will agree with me?
@nahidnoor6421
@nahidnoor6421 Жыл бұрын
Relatable !
@AwaisAhmedPodcast
@AwaisAhmedPodcast Жыл бұрын
I told my wife once that if I choose to have a role model Muslim or an ideal Muslim in the present times, Hamza comes in my mind. What a modest and humble person. Wise and practicing. Loving and Kind.
@emeraldradiancemadinamunawwara
@emeraldradiancemadinamunawwara Жыл бұрын
Totally get what you're saying. I feel the same. I guess Hamza represents the best qualities of a righteous person/Momin/human heart, and it's the reason why so many people find him relatable. May Allah bless him with more Imaan and Nur in his heart.
@Full2635
@Full2635 11 ай бұрын
He is not a scholar. The term "scholar" should not be used lightly
@NorthStar-di8sx
@NorthStar-di8sx 9 ай бұрын
With due respect to the work Hamza is doing, i think Dr Khaled Abou El Fadl is also a good scholar.
@freeyourmind7538
@freeyourmind7538 Жыл бұрын
Hamza the O.G Top G!!!! Alhamdulila ☝️
@browntaint6916
@browntaint6916 Жыл бұрын
The only muslim podcast i listen regularly is 5 pillars's blood brothers podcast.. this could be another muslim podcast i would listen regularly.. keep it up brother..
@TheThinkingMuslim
@TheThinkingMuslim Жыл бұрын
Barakallahu feek
@haledahalim3883
@haledahalim3883 Жыл бұрын
Amazing🍀!!! Great conversation may Allah reward you!!🙌
@haledahalim3883
@haledahalim3883 Жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this!!!! MashAllah enjoyed!!!
@birkanal6644
@birkanal6644 Жыл бұрын
Great setting, clean, top quality.
@waqaas8537
@waqaas8537 Жыл бұрын
This podcast was really helpful, Jzk Khayr. And studio looks beautiful, very classy! 👌
@MusabP181
@MusabP181 Жыл бұрын
Amazing episode, love the new studio and video style
@floragonseth2886
@floragonseth2886 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing talk full of well placed criticism and healthy new perspectiv. May Allh protect your iman brothers
@samataragon
@samataragon Жыл бұрын
Great set up and angles. Top notch!
@a4482921
@a4482921 Жыл бұрын
Alhamdulillah so good to see the most underrated Islamic podcast finally on video! All the best moving forward ❤
@mappilakty
@mappilakty Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love this podcast, and it makes me so happy to see this in video in a beautiful studio. Allah bless you brother Muhammad Jalal, and accept your contributions to guiding the Ummah. The studio aesthetics is awesome btw.
@nahidnoor6421
@nahidnoor6421 Жыл бұрын
Fabulous ; and a very relevant discussion !
@bushrabegum84
@bushrabegum84 Жыл бұрын
Quite enlightening MashaAllah
@ahmedehab6303
@ahmedehab6303 Жыл бұрын
I think that achieving sincerity is the biggest struggle in life , because there's no reward from Allah without it .
@SOK23
@SOK23 Жыл бұрын
Awesome ambience 😊
@mahdiyussuf9804
@mahdiyussuf9804 10 ай бұрын
Wonderful discussion. Jazak Allah khayr!
@omarhasan3244
@omarhasan3244 Жыл бұрын
I pray Allah SWT bless this initiative
@Solemn_G
@Solemn_G Жыл бұрын
You're a fantastic interviewer. Maa shaa Allah. Keep it up!
@MrErBodyLOOKIN
@MrErBodyLOOKIN 7 ай бұрын
Alhamdulillah this was sent to me by my Sheikh so I’m locked in and can’t wait to hear this discussion
@mohdasher8664
@mohdasher8664 Жыл бұрын
Absolute amazing. Please get him back again on the podcast as and when possible. Hopefully his intuitive answer would have some clear way forward as well. Jzk Hamza bhai.
@PowerGurhl
@PowerGurhl 7 ай бұрын
I love this podcast ❤ thank you for bringing amazing people to talk about almost every topic
@nursingstoriesbybaiza4131
@nursingstoriesbybaiza4131 Ай бұрын
This channel is quit fruitful for Muslims I hope people reach this channel ❤ we need such content on social media
@sabaashraf4698
@sabaashraf4698 Жыл бұрын
it was a great discussion and really informative . May Allah swt help you both and give you people jaza e khair . Respect from Pakistan
@mods3167
@mods3167 Жыл бұрын
Masha Allah great interview brothers. Many interesting points discussed.
@amalia512
@amalia512 Жыл бұрын
MashaAllah Jazakumullahu khayr
@Nouraalsheryani
@Nouraalsheryani 29 күн бұрын
Wonderful episode, thank you !
@ahmedajmi6936
@ahmedajmi6936 Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the conversation and appreciated the intellectual honesty and transparency. Not sure I totally agree with the discourse on misogyny, however certainly has provided food for thought. Well done!
@arsenewenger7733
@arsenewenger7733 7 ай бұрын
Great video. A point to note that the Ads on these shows are quite problematic. Some very innapropriate ads appear mid video which is very disturbing. The team needs to be aware of this.
@d.bcooper2271
@d.bcooper2271 2 ай бұрын
Hmmm
@Rogerdowler
@Rogerdowler Жыл бұрын
High quality discussions with an uncompromising intellectual rigour. Please keep up the fantastic work ❤️
@TheThinkingMuslim
@TheThinkingMuslim Жыл бұрын
May Allah accept it from all
@lukewayne
@lukewayne Жыл бұрын
What ... I was told shayk christian prince called in was allowed to share Islaame . Yea bruhh what about islaaame? Check it out . They say don't think.
@waqasabi
@waqasabi Жыл бұрын
Amazing discussion!
@aehong7332
@aehong7332 Жыл бұрын
TbarkAllah, so happy to see my favourite podcast in video format!! Insightful and fascinating as usual!! May Allah reward you and the team for bringing it to us.
@TheThinkingMuslim
@TheThinkingMuslim Жыл бұрын
Jazakallah khair sister - thank you for your support.
@aimalsaidy3665
@aimalsaidy3665 Жыл бұрын
Really liked Hamza's position on Andrew Tate👍
@bradscott3165
@bradscott3165 Жыл бұрын
The part about transformational vs informational learning was eye opening. Allahuah Akhbar!
@AbdullahNajjar
@AbdullahNajjar Жыл бұрын
May Allah Bless & protect Imam Hamza Tzortzis 🤲
@RD-wg3uw
@RD-wg3uw 10 ай бұрын
Baaraka Allahu fiikum my brothers may Allah Ta’ala bless and protect you both
@hibatuadam2777
@hibatuadam2777 Жыл бұрын
Educating and beautiful. Maashallah
@abumotorola9614
@abumotorola9614 Жыл бұрын
As always, you come across as genuine, may Allaah grant us and you steadfastness :)
@MrBlackCanvas
@MrBlackCanvas 3 ай бұрын
Great show. Please keep inviting brilliant people like him and many others
@freeman7983
@freeman7983 4 ай бұрын
Baraka ALLAHU fikoum
@Rogerdowler
@Rogerdowler Жыл бұрын
Always feel humbled listening to Hamzas knowledge. Awakens the deep need for study and the pursuit of knowledge within me
@Shugoi
@Shugoi Жыл бұрын
I'd love to listen The Thinking Muslim podscast. I've downloaded the app. And just now I saw the vedio on KZbin. Glad to join it.
@theexplorers4182
@theexplorers4182 7 ай бұрын
MashaAllah
@roadtohope
@roadtohope 9 ай бұрын
Excellent podcast with Humza
@thanveeribrahim5584
@thanveeribrahim5584 Жыл бұрын
Masha allah, a good interviewer and a great guest.
@bilalshaban2432
@bilalshaban2432 11 ай бұрын
Hamza is wise brother with so much ikhlas he’s a better Muslim than me
@abuyusuf7618
@abuyusuf7618 Жыл бұрын
This was absolutely fantastic. Hamza comes across really well mashAllah to discuss and convey in this manner. This is exactly how we should conduct ourselves in a discussion. His points on Andrew tate were just 👌🏻
@blank7531
@blank7531 Жыл бұрын
May Allah rewards you.
@muhammadfaizanshaikh7203
@muhammadfaizanshaikh7203 Жыл бұрын
You discussed Pakistan, what do you think of newer schools of thought in the region like Mr. Ghamdi. A significant number of young population follows him and his core ideas with critical replies are present on his channel with English subtitles. He has some new ideas regarding the methodology of fiqh, though in no way they can be termed modernist imo. Would love to hear your or your team's opinion on that Hamza.
@beamuslimman
@beamuslimman Жыл бұрын
Solid interview. We wrote the book on masculinity.
@mohammadiqbal8513
@mohammadiqbal8513 11 ай бұрын
Amazing
@clb830
@clb830 9 ай бұрын
Great talk. How can we learn applied akidah? Most of akidah books are classic text as he mentioned. Can you provide some resources?
@skkrt16
@skkrt16 Жыл бұрын
On Br. Hamza's viewpoints regarding Andrew tate's qualities-It isn't obvious to me how one can receive a message positively, even if it is essentially good and all well-meaning, but is conveyed in a manner which is clearly opposite to what Quran has outlined. Is it possible for young people to look at good and bad separately when both are interwined? I think if one talks in a sensational voice without introspecting it, then it just elucidates the impression that he hasn't internalised his own message in the first place. The insistence on such voice being beneficial in any way seems incorrect.
@imammamunu9537
@imammamunu9537 Жыл бұрын
Exellent podcast. May Allah preserve the thinking Muslim, amern
@honesty_provides_tranquility
@honesty_provides_tranquility 10 ай бұрын
Another in-depth thoughtful discussion I didn’t think I had the time or focus to listen to
@onslassoued9905
@onslassoued9905 Жыл бұрын
This hamza changed my life . May allah reunite you both in Jannatul firdaws . A great podcast ❤
@TheThinkingMuslim
@TheThinkingMuslim Жыл бұрын
Inshallah all of us. Ameen
@hero4963
@hero4963 3 ай бұрын
Hamza mashallah have that prophetic softness and sensitivity and vulnerability may Allah bless always he is a beacon of hope to thousands of young Muslims I want my child to be like hamza truly
@eddyqwam1647
@eddyqwam1647 11 ай бұрын
good dialog Hamza
@Mr_Main-event_Muhammad024
@Mr_Main-event_Muhammad024 Жыл бұрын
With his understanding of the acts of I'badat; of the misinterpretation, or false understanding of Misogyny and Patriarchy, Shaykh Hamza A. Tzortzis is a genius, like no other. His treatment of Brother Andrew Tate is distinct. His critique of colonizing the Prophet's modus operandi to the modern-day trend of CHOICE is striking. May he shine brighter; rise higher! Amen!
@mohammadaltaf41
@mohammadaltaf41 11 ай бұрын
Subhan'Allah!
@SM-qk5hi
@SM-qk5hi Жыл бұрын
One thing that needs to be spoken about is social media, is highly problematic in the sense we can't see body language, it dumbs down EQ. Hence the arguments etc. By looking at someone's body language you'll know how to approach and if you should approach them.
@fatherlouiswilliamssugaada5023
@fatherlouiswilliamssugaada5023 Жыл бұрын
00:57:37 Hamza's view on Andrew tate 01:14:40 top 5 Curriculum for young muslim men
@paulthomas281
@paulthomas281 Жыл бұрын
Did Hamza Tzortzis just say one of Andrew Tate's qualities is a commitment to "taking care of women" @1:05:05? Holy moly.........
@HamzaTzortzisOfficial
@HamzaTzortzisOfficial Жыл бұрын
He has made it publicly clear that this is what he advises men, its on some of his interviews ans videos, and he does that in his private life to many women. Yes, many of his other statements, especially before his conversion, have been terrible. But I must be just when I speak about people.
@SunsetNova
@SunsetNova Жыл бұрын
Typical comment from a disenfranchised beta male 😂
@hibatuadam2777
@hibatuadam2777 Жыл бұрын
Yes. Andrew said to take good care of women. If you actually listened to him
@SM-qk5hi
@SM-qk5hi Жыл бұрын
If I had an input in a curriculum I'd want to make sure the youth understand baraqah of time and routine.
@JesusisaMuslim
@JesusisaMuslim Жыл бұрын
The West needs Islam
@hibaalam322
@hibaalam322 Жыл бұрын
Hamza's advice to Andrew is so perfect for anyone looking to start or return to their journey to Allah. someone ready to flee to Allah.
@muhammadmurtaza7900
@muhammadmurtaza7900 Жыл бұрын
Please make it downloadable
@TheThinkingMuslim
@TheThinkingMuslim Жыл бұрын
You can download the audio on apple or Spotify inshallah
@Theo-fc7et
@Theo-fc7et Жыл бұрын
17:11 what is an HT background
@SunsetNova
@SunsetNova Жыл бұрын
Hizbut Tahrir movement look it up on Wikipedia
@goodwifelucy5602
@goodwifelucy5602 Жыл бұрын
Too many buzzwords in the way this man talks. If he wants to be clear then he should use the words clearly.
@goodwifelucy5602
@goodwifelucy5602 Жыл бұрын
What is an " HT background '? Can I make a heartfelt request please that when smattering ones speech with Arabic words and phrases to also use the English? So many new reverts are turned away from knowledge by this exclusion.
@TheThinkingMuslim
@TheThinkingMuslim Жыл бұрын
Jzazakallah khair this is an excellent point and we shall remind ourselves to ask for clarification in future interviews. In this case HT is an Islamic group called Hizb ut-Tahir.
@RM-kx9oh
@RM-kx9oh 4 ай бұрын
28:00 It's so true, some people in the dawa community are doing too much to come across as dominant and masculine. This pseudo masculinity comes across as performative and very off-putting. I worry it is harming the da'wa effort.
@mpenziwamungu731
@mpenziwamungu731 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate brother Hamza Tzortzis may Allah grant him his Rahma. But I think he is wrong in this matter. This idea of "hierarchy" is based upon the assumption that the protective role of men is inherently superior to the guardianship role of women as the Quran describes it. This is not necessarily true. A man need his wife emotional support and feminine attributes to face the hardships of the external world. A woman need the physical protection, force and masculine attributes of her husband to be happpy and safe; only then she will be an emotional support for the family. See, this is the trap in which many falls in. We need to accepts that God create us equal in dignity, but different in roles. If there is a hierarchy, this hierarchy can be only temporary, depending on the situation. And Allah knows best.
@Generation21.
@Generation21. Жыл бұрын
❣️❣️❣️
@emeraldradiancemadinamunawwara
@emeraldradiancemadinamunawwara Жыл бұрын
Brother Hamza is the person that I see as the top young contemporary scholar. There are so many "scholars" running around all over the place but one feels an intense repulsion from them because they are so ego-driven, self-righteous and belligerant. This brother is wise and humble and represents the best qualities of a Momin which is "Taqwa".
@TheThinkingMuslim
@TheThinkingMuslim Жыл бұрын
May Allah give us all the prophetic character.
@emeraldradiancemadinamunawwara
@emeraldradiancemadinamunawwara Жыл бұрын
@@TheThinkingMuslim Ameen!
@526farhan
@526farhan 5 ай бұрын
Waalikumassalam
@blobbins17
@blobbins17 Жыл бұрын
Hamza is a breath of fresh air, none of this disingenious BS of some of his peers
@nazirmudasser1672
@nazirmudasser1672 Жыл бұрын
6:12 lol i think he knew more then me at this age, And that’s good a way to learn also
@nazirmudasser1672
@nazirmudasser1672 Жыл бұрын
40:24 so good ❤
@atifmanzoor63
@atifmanzoor63 9 ай бұрын
What ethnicity is brother Hamza
@siddiq6575
@siddiq6575 Жыл бұрын
While I recommend physical fitness and martial arts for Muslim men, I must mention that hitting the face is Haram according to many scholars, because The Prophet peace be upon him said, "If somebody fights (or beats somebody) then he should avoid the face." - Sahih al-Bukhari 2559. Therefore, I don't recommend kickboxing for this particular reason. I conclude by reminding myself and the believing Muslim men and women to always be near scholars to receive knowledge and ask questions. Those who are closer to scholars are likelier to be guided than those who are closer to social media stars; and Allah knows best.
@sami3289
@sami3289 Жыл бұрын
Thought It was a discussion between Hamza Tzortzis and Matt Walsh.
@gamerboyplayz4282
@gamerboyplayz4282 Жыл бұрын
1:11:07
@thetruth27786
@thetruth27786 Жыл бұрын
As a muslim feminist myself the problem is both sides,just like you say scholars not teaching men to be masculine we can also say scholars are not teaching islam fairly for girls to love the islamic way of being a woman either,its just not possible to teach girls is that all she must do is sit at home and look after and obey her husband while he can have 4 wives he doesnt even need to have the respect to tell her about and shes forbidden from achieving anything in life for herself if her husband says no and if she is disobedient to him he can miswakbeat her otherwise she is a feminist....this is all i learnt from madressa marriage is like for women.Where do you ever hear scholars teach quran (42:38) "the believing men and women conduct their affairs by mutual consultation" apparently they made this verse mustahab lol so no matter how kind you are to women they want to do something fulfilling for herself other than always looking after others which im not saying she musnt just not all the time its 2023...untill this is taught most girls are going to go the khadija ra way from young ages because islam for her the other way is just not appealing either.Just like boys find the high value man top G man best likewise women find khadija ra the top G'ess lol of females best to strive for. We have scholars teaching a woman cant visit her own parents if the husband says no, Scholars teaching women are basically dogs that men do not even have to consult us when they take other wives and then you have muslim men throwing that down our throats l,ofcourse then muslim girls going to combat that to say its not my duty then cook or do anything in islam where does it say that either.......If they taught consultation i think more women would be happier to want to be stay at home wives.I never heard 1 scholar tell boys being qawwaam does not mean you can tell your wife she cant leave the house when you going everywhere and not consulting her also,the fairness factor for me seems to be missing in the way scholars teach islam today that makes women want to go the other way..... Another big issue that no one is addressing is regarding giving your wife a savings if shes not working,our fathers want us to be financially ok in the case of divorce,why isnt anyone addressing the divorce issues and so many women fighting for maintenance.....its easy to say women should want to sit at home but what about the money issue,no one wants to know they dont have any savings if things go south,this is a hard pill to swollow for men but this is what is causing the issue,which woman will work a hard days job if she was fully convinced in divorce she would be financially well off,why should she go ask her father and brothers for money now that shes divorced when she could have worked and saved and looked after ger husband...Believe it or not this is the exact reason women working.
@wawaweewa9159
@wawaweewa9159 Жыл бұрын
jsut avoid marrying practicing muslim men, simple.
@Mayo224
@Mayo224 Жыл бұрын
Spot on !
@paulthomas281
@paulthomas281 Жыл бұрын
@Where exactly did Allah says thats haraam? "the islamic way of being a woman"? Is there just one way of being a woman in Islam? What is this "the" that you've used?
@thetruth27786
@thetruth27786 Жыл бұрын
@@paulthomas281 whats not haraam?
@paulthomas281
@paulthomas281 Жыл бұрын
@@thetruth27786 Is abandoning the guardianship system haraam?
@RayOfHope8
@RayOfHope8 Жыл бұрын
❤️❤️❤️❤️🌹🌹🌹🌹
@icelerate8141
@icelerate8141 Жыл бұрын
In this discussion Hamza was talking about how the term Akh right is disgusting because it supposedly insinuates that leftist discourse is correct. I don't see how it insinuates this considering you can be against both left and right. Hamza himself was accusing certain Muslims of adopting leftist discourse but that doesn't mean he is adopting akh right narrative so I think he is being inconsistent.
@HamzaTzortzisOfficial
@HamzaTzortzisOfficial Жыл бұрын
Calling a Muslim who is not right wing "akh right" is a form of insult. The leftist Muslims who I label as such agree they are left leaning. There is no inconsistency.
@paulthomas281
@paulthomas281 Жыл бұрын
So women will have a "sense of well-being", as Hamza put it, by being dependents? And what is his view on the guardianship system?
@boygenius538_8
@boygenius538_8 Жыл бұрын
humans are by nature interdependant. It is in our ability to trust and depend that helps us thrive. It is ideal for a woman to trust and depend on her man if he is trustworthy, and vice versa.
@paulthomas281
@paulthomas281 Жыл бұрын
@@boygenius538_8 Do you know what "dependent" even means? And what is your view of the guardianship system.
@ggggg3459
@ggggg3459 Жыл бұрын
@@paulthomas281 I think he explained it clearly. What are you trying to imply really? Allah has ordained guardianship under Men and the World has gone far from the natural way of life especially under West.
@paulthomas281
@paulthomas281 Жыл бұрын
@@ggggg3459 Really? So why are women across the MENA largely opposed to the guardianship system then? Don't you think you need to question your assumptions every now and then? You do realise that insisting on Sunni Islamic dogma is leading to the death of the religion, don't you?
@paulthomas281
@paulthomas281 Жыл бұрын
@@ggggg3459 And the natural way of life? Hmmmm... Women in the ancient Nabatean Arab religion occupied high functions in the religious, ritual, and social order. Was that unnatural?
@canadiantuxedomask
@canadiantuxedomask 5 ай бұрын
asalaam alaikum, thank you for these discussions (I'm subscribed under a secondary account for political reasons, primarily my support of Palestinian liberation). I believe it would be a step towards a more decolonized understanding of the Qur'an to understand that Allah has no gender, as Allah is both Creator and all creation, with no equal or counterpart. The Prophet (PBUH) was and is indeed a man, but English has many of us using the word "he" in the place of Allah. It feels like the Judeo-Christian conception of "god" every time we use the incorrect term "he" to refer to Allah, and can evoke conceptions of some Zeus-like figure, which is an abstraction, and only helps the liberal inquisition's propaganda and characterization of Islam as patriarchal. The term "pater familia" comes from Latin, hence patriarchy... for example, a Roman's daughters would be named according to the father's family, so a member of Julius Caesar's clan's daughters would be known as Julia I, Julia II, Julia III etc. That is the original patriarchy and its subsequent imperialist regime that attacked/colonized Africans and Arabs, and its civic model of society still persecutes and criminalizes Muslims to this day by its most explicit embodiment today, Amerikkka).
@paulthomas281
@paulthomas281 Жыл бұрын
If the idea that we own ourselves is subjective and whacky, the notion that Allah is the one who owns us is hyper-hyper-hyper-subjective among other things? The latter should have nothing to do with societal rules.
@MZD15
@MZD15 Жыл бұрын
But we can prove with rational and logical arguments that God exists and he's the ultimate creator and Sustainer of everything.
@prontocreative2374
@prontocreative2374 Жыл бұрын
lol for a moment i thought that was Matt Walsh , my bad !
@blue7lvn245
@blue7lvn245 7 ай бұрын
Please bring on firas zahabi please maybe even few people together
@Aliya-gh2ec
@Aliya-gh2ec 7 ай бұрын
No one is asking Muslim women what they think of AT. AWFUL.There is so much information about spiritual practice for Muslim men on KZbin. I don't know all these words what is the supplication before fajr. Where do I find it ?
@blueberry4082
@blueberry4082 5 ай бұрын
Bc women are considered as objects
@enlightenlife2840
@enlightenlife2840 Ай бұрын
Go for Islamic thinkers such as the laye genius Mohamed shahrour. His work on Islam and women is mind blowing. He's the greatest scholar/thinker in the history of Islam.
@thetheorist3255
@thetheorist3255 Жыл бұрын
I thought he was Matt Walsh
@cameliacamelia5435
@cameliacamelia5435 8 ай бұрын
it would be nice if you addressed the hatred against women and why feminism is a thing in the first place. very one sided this
@TheThinkingMuslim
@TheThinkingMuslim 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for your comment. I think this is certainly worth talking about in a future episode.
@icelerate8141
@icelerate8141 Жыл бұрын
I don't get which mainstream Muslim scholars are not talking about masculinity or assuming a liberal bias. The main problem has been that Muslim scholars have been silent on the issue of jihad due to governments being quite oppressive in that regard but the vast majority of Muslim scholars, including women, agree that the Muslim man is the authority of the family.
@SunsetNova
@SunsetNova Жыл бұрын
You must be living under a rock. Scholars avoid the topic of masculinity like the plague due to the current environment we live in. It's become almost a taboo subject hence why theirs been a strong reaction
@rafeeqbey2690
@rafeeqbey2690 8 ай бұрын
He should speak with certainty about AndrewTate, and not assume by starting off with "I think"
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