Muslim Says There's no Evidence Jesus died.

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@clayton4349
@clayton4349 5 ай бұрын
There’s no real evidence that Muhammad is a prophet.
@denseterror539
@denseterror539 5 ай бұрын
There’s no proof muhammed even existed LITERALLY!!!
@Tommy-bs1el
@Tommy-bs1el 5 ай бұрын
There is evidence he was pedo.
@Brandon579JB
@Brandon579JB 5 ай бұрын
But there is evidence that he kills a lot of people and sleeps with minors
@shroomitechromee
@shroomitechromee 5 ай бұрын
That he even existed
@Boconnor401.
@Boconnor401. 5 ай бұрын
@@shroomitechromeehe existed???
@KingNazaru
@KingNazaru 5 ай бұрын
There’s no evidence that this elderly man has been well educated.
@rad_lad_2715
@rad_lad_2715 5 ай бұрын
But there is evidence that he hasn't been
@IsraelCountryCube
@IsraelCountryCube 5 ай бұрын
There's no evidence he's not like mu- actually we will leave that part out it's taboo.
@NearingLight
@NearingLight 5 ай бұрын
I encourage you to argue his points. Instead of throwing around insults.
@KingNazaru
@KingNazaru 5 ай бұрын
@@NearingLight Why? The short did that for me.
@mrburns5245
@mrburns5245 5 ай бұрын
There’s a lot of evidence he’s educated. Look at his channel. And I don’t even agree with him
@HisLivingStone241
@HisLivingStone241 5 ай бұрын
They prefer a book that came 576+ years after Jesus versus Accounts that came, at max, 67 years after Jesus.
@obijack08
@obijack08 5 ай бұрын
no your eyewitness account arent eyewitnesses thats the problem ip here doesnt know history
@niccolopaganini1782
@niccolopaganini1782 5 ай бұрын
​@@obijack08they are. Or were written by people who knew the eye witnesses.
@HisLivingStone241
@HisLivingStone241 5 ай бұрын
@@obijack08 that's your claim. What's the evidence that says the Gospels are not eye witnesses accounts? My point is that the Gospels are much closer to the historical Jesus by default.
@Ex_muslim_alonzo_harris
@Ex_muslim_alonzo_harris 5 ай бұрын
​@@obijack08and your qurans are an eyewitness to a sheep 😂
@jovanic38
@jovanic38 5 ай бұрын
And they'll say "Jesus didn't speak Greek" so that's not what he actually said in the Bible. But Jesus also didn't speak Arabic, so by their own standard they destroy their own position 😢
@BulykrynVancho
@BulykrynVancho 5 ай бұрын
There’s no REAL proof this video exists…
@Mrhunterfishermen
@Mrhunterfishermen 5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@imago9059
@imago9059 5 ай бұрын
Lol a Matrix fan ?😂😂
@HRuhaSM
@HRuhaSM 5 ай бұрын
There is no real proof none of us exist
@truthseeker37747
@truthseeker37747 5 ай бұрын
Yes, there is- it’s recorded here on KZbin-
@BulykrynVancho
@BulykrynVancho 5 ай бұрын
@@truthseeker37747 is it, though?
@stevedoetsch
@stevedoetsch 5 ай бұрын
People who deny history are absolutely incoherent because their position is that we should believe their words rather than the words of other people. Such a challenge begs the question, of course, as to why we should believe them in the first place.
@mikehager4897
@mikehager4897 5 ай бұрын
Even if their was a Jesus who was executed, of which there is no real history (only the pathetic maunderings of idiot apologists) it doesn't matter because the real question is if he was some kind of god and we know that is a moronic lie.
@josejaquez4100
@josejaquez4100 5 ай бұрын
This guy never said the word history in the clip. If he means that there is no archeological evidence then he is correct. But the clip is not enough to understand what he means.
@kwakuandspinopython1346
@kwakuandspinopython1346 5 ай бұрын
​@@mikehager4897are you a Muslim sympathiser who
@rad_lad_2715
@rad_lad_2715 5 ай бұрын
​@@kwakuandspinopython1346Nah he sounds like an atheist who makes fun of theists for believing in gods even though the only logical outcome of atheism is that things can spontaneously come to life, which is arguably more absurd than there being an intelligent creator
@r.nunezz
@r.nunezz 5 ай бұрын
Dialoging with Muslims is so funny because they just argue in a circle from the standpoint the Quran is true.
@JaidenTamayo
@JaidenTamayo 5 ай бұрын
No evidence they would accept
@TheWildTrove
@TheWildTrove 5 ай бұрын
Exactly. Strange that the crucifixion is so scrutinized yet other historical events are easily accepted
@brentjones905
@brentjones905 5 ай бұрын
​@TheWildTrove because they can proven.
@TheWildTrove
@TheWildTrove 5 ай бұрын
@@brentjones905 huh? Are you trying to say every other "historical" event can be proven and Christ's existence cannot? It always baffles me how people hold Christ's existence to a standard they don't apply to anything else. Our calendar is literally based on his existence.
@brentjones905
@brentjones905 5 ай бұрын
@@TheWildTrove our calendar is not based on his existence. Our calendar was created by someone from the church, hence the whole AD, BC thing. The calendar also was made because it was more accurate than the others before.
@brentjones905
@brentjones905 5 ай бұрын
@@TheWildTrove Christ's existence is held to the same standard as other things. The other things have evidence for their existence and it's been proven. Within reason obviously. Things like the earth is flat, or young, clearly aren't going to count and be held to the same standard since we know those to be false.
@mgvilaca
@mgvilaca 5 ай бұрын
It's so funny how Muslims use Bart Ehrman against Chrstians when his works completely contradict Jesus according to Islam
@Antihero297
@Antihero297 5 ай бұрын
Islam is a self-contradictory mess. Pretty much all Muslims today will tell you that the New Testament was corrupted, but it doesn't say that in the Quran, it says the opposite basically. Muhammad swore an oath on the Old and New Testament and he didn't say anything about it being corrupted. At the same time, they say Allah is the author of the Bible and Allah's word cannot be corrupted. This is what happens when liars weave complicated webs
@mgvilaca
@mgvilaca 5 ай бұрын
@@Antihero297 also there's no evidence the NT has been corrupted. Isaiah was found in the dead sea scrolls in 200 BC and it prophecizes about Jesus
@Small_Clips_Apologetics
@Small_Clips_Apologetics 5 ай бұрын
Right
@Small_Clips_Apologetics
@Small_Clips_Apologetics 5 ай бұрын
​@@Antihero297 Exactly
@BeeShow99
@BeeShow99 5 ай бұрын
Even their Prophet Bart Ehrman ( sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam) admits Jesus death at the cross is a historical fact
@caos1925
@caos1925 5 ай бұрын
amazing the lengths people go to to deny Christianity.
@mikehager4897
@mikehager4897 5 ай бұрын
Amazing the lengths christian fools will go to trying to defend their indefensible beliefs.
@Small_Clips_Apologetics
@Small_Clips_Apologetics 5 ай бұрын
So true! ❤
@StevenGodair
@StevenGodair 5 ай бұрын
fr if they don't mind or care about our religion then why are so many people so bent on debunking or disproving it?
@brentjones905
@brentjones905 5 ай бұрын
​@@StevenGodairbecause nobody is able to tell the truth about it. Like IP here. If you would tell the truth about it, it would be much easier. Stop holding humanity back.
@Kaleki935
@Kaleki935 5 ай бұрын
It's called they read the Bible, they read what CHRISTIAN scholars say, and come to the obvious conclusion that Christianity is false The fact that Islam stands up to the same tests, is only because it happens to be true. Jesus called God "Alaha", so may Allah guide you closer to the truth. The word we use-God, rooted from the Greek "deos", is WAY different. Because we fell astray.
@kopanotempleton8414
@kopanotempleton8414 5 ай бұрын
There's no real evidence that there was once a person called Muhammad 😂😂
@Boconnor401.
@Boconnor401. 5 ай бұрын
How??
@raphaelfeneje486
@raphaelfeneje486 5 ай бұрын
You're right though
@kopanotempleton8414
@kopanotempleton8414 5 ай бұрын
@@Boconnor401. first of all show us "how?" there's no real evidence Jesus was crucified then I'll also answer your how 😁
@raphaelfeneje486
@raphaelfeneje486 5 ай бұрын
​@@Boconnor401. there's no evidence that Muhammad, Mecca, pre Islamic pagans, existed
@briandiehl9257
@briandiehl9257 5 ай бұрын
What are yoy taking about, I have a person named Muhammad right here
@theconservativechristian7308
@theconservativechristian7308 5 ай бұрын
At the end of the day, there is CONVENIENTLY "no evidence" for what people don't want to believe.
@mikehager4897
@mikehager4897 5 ай бұрын
At the end of the day, reasonable people do not accept claims without evidence. Why do you?
@dontburstmybubble686
@dontburstmybubble686 5 ай бұрын
​@@mikehager4897 Yes, but there are 500 people who claim they saw Jesus again after he died.
@Kaleki935
@Kaleki935 5 ай бұрын
​@dontburstmybubble686 and yet Barnabus said he wasn't? Better throw that book out! How about what James says about needing works and NOT just faith, contrary to Paul's oft-cited galatians? That's why the early fathers said his epistle should have been burned; it's evidence of their polytheistic intervention!!! Where are the accounts of those who saw Jesus? Not ONE centurion, not ONE record despite the Romans being known for their well-documented court procedures that America was founded upon, not even ONE account that can even match the "reliability" of the WEAKEST of Hadith which apparently come from a DONKEY, but you just wave away anyone as ignorant for daring to investigate the falsehoods of your faith. But then again, read what you say. 500 people "claim" to have saw him. This validates what the Quran says; it was reported that he was crucified but there will NEVER be evidence one way nor the other. I can "claim" to be a prophet and create Mormonism 2.0, that doesn't make the claim true. There's plenty of Hindus claiming their faith is true, does that make it so?
@Ceccener
@Ceccener 5 ай бұрын
​@@mikehager4897There was some evidence in the video.
@Ceccener
@Ceccener 5 ай бұрын
​@@mikehager4897Or were you talking about something else?
@unsightedmetal6857
@unsightedmetal6857 5 ай бұрын
Saying "there's no REAL evidence" is a pretty convenient (and dishonest) way to dismiss any evidence that goes against your claim.
@Ex_muslim_alonzo_harris
@Ex_muslim_alonzo_harris 5 ай бұрын
Here's how abduls do taqi-yya: 1. Abduls claim all qurans around the world are perfectly preserved and are exactly the same word for word, letter for letter. 2. When we show them different qurans with different words they cunningly shift the goalposts claiming that the qurans may have different words but the differences are only due to different accents or different dialects. 3. When we then point out that the differences are not due to different accents or different dialects but that there are different words with different meaning altogether, they shift the goalposts again alleging that it's the context that is preserved because the different qurans complement each other. 4. When we again point out that certain verses in different qurans contradict each other, they make another excuse claiming all the different qurans are actually different qira'ats and were authorized by muhummud and so are preserved. 5. When we then ask them for proof from their qurans or hadiths where muhummud or allah authorized 10, 15 or 50 qira'ats, abduls start fuming and get triggered crying that we are Islamophobes and are lying 🤦 6. So notice how they shift their goalposts multiple times: "Perfectly preserved word for word" to "different words but different accents or dialects" to "context is the same" to "all qira'ats authorized by muhummud"!
@ericspence-tw3pt
@ericspence-tw3pt 5 ай бұрын
and when you mention that the first Quran was burned by Uthman ibn Affan, which means the copies that came after can't be originals and therefore not perfectly preserved. But don't tell a Muslim this, because they'll dance around the issue and they do it so well you would think they were taught by a professional
@BasedHistory01
@BasedHistory01 5 ай бұрын
@@ericspence-tw3ptUthman Ibn Affan with a committee came to create authenticated Verses that were verified and checked by people who actually MEMORIZED the Quran, and all the other false and unverified Qurans were burned, so nobody would claim those unverified writings were the REAL verses, so there would be no fitnah.
@BasedHistory01
@BasedHistory01 5 ай бұрын
Qiraat is the different STYLES of recitation, just like how you say you all, or if ur in the Midwest u say YALL, it’s a different way of recitation, but has the same meaning.
@Muhammad54Ayesha6
@Muhammad54Ayesha6 5 ай бұрын
I wouldn't believe a word any abduls spit. Their opinions are useless to me.
@bibia336
@bibia336 5 ай бұрын
What about the goat that ate the Qu'wrong? Must have had a severe case of diarrhea. Poor goat
@ryanhoward8694
@ryanhoward8694 5 ай бұрын
Let’s also not forget that the early Christian sources would have no reason to make up a story about their Messiah being crucified. Crucifixion was the utmost shame in the agonistic cultures of the 1st-century Mediterranean world. The only reason to tell such a story was if it were true and if one had powerful evidence that said Messiah overcame that shameful death by, say, rising from the dead afterward.
@mikehager4897
@mikehager4897 5 ай бұрын
What are you gibbering about. Myths of dying and ressurecting gods are utterly common. Horus, Baldur, Krishna, Adonis, and Osiris are examples right off the top of my head.
@Provocative-K
@Provocative-K 5 ай бұрын
​@@mikehager4897 you are absolutely wrong LoL for example krishna he never Ressurected 😂 so don't make stuff up I have read the hindu scriptures there is no mention of any ressurection of krishna
@ryanhoward8694
@ryanhoward8694 5 ай бұрын
@@mikehager4897 1) What historical sources do you have that predate Christianity for dying and rising gods? 2) Define “resurrection”. Often I find that people online equivocate on the definition of the word. For example, Osiris is not a relevant parallel to Jesus because A) Horus is not presented as an actual historical person (whereas Jesus is) and B) Horus was stitched back together and remained in the underworld. That is NOT a parallel to Jesus, Who rose back to life in a glorified physical body. 3) As most internet peoples do in these kinds of discussions, you’ve blatantly missed my point. The point isn’t that Jesus died; it’s the KIND of death He died in the cultural context in which He died. Crucifixion was the ultimate humiliation, the great shame, a humiliation and shame that would have been attached to any who attached themselves to the one crucified. This is an agonistic (i.e., honor/shame) culture we’re talking about here. Making up a story about your leader being crucified would have been movement suicide…unless there were other factors at work, such as, perhaps, strong evidence that said leader actually rose from the dead. Further, the idea that 1st-century Jews would have borrowed from pagan myths is laughably ignorant of the cultural milieu of 1st-century Judea and Galilee. Those people had learned their lesson about worshipping pagan gods post-Babylonian exile (c. 586 BC). For their many cultural flaws, borrowing from paganism was certainly NOT one of them.
@Provocative-K
@Provocative-K 5 ай бұрын
​@@mikehager4897 The concept of resurrection varies among different mythologies and religions. While figures like Osiris in Egyptian mythology are often associated with resurrection, the specifics do not align exactly with the story of Jesus in Christianity. Similarly, figures like Balder in Norse mythology and Krishna in Hinduism have their own narratives involving death and rebirth, but these are not necessarily equivalent to the Christian idea of resurrection. Adonis in Greek mythology is associated with themes of rebirth and renewal, but again, the details differ from the resurrection story of Jesus. Each mythological figure has its own unique story and symbolism, so while there may be similarities in themes of death and rebirth, the concept of resurrection as understood in Christianity is very distinct.
@OurStoryz123
@OurStoryz123 5 ай бұрын
​@@mikehager4897shut up you stone worshipper
@Itsdasummer32
@Itsdasummer32 5 ай бұрын
These bots have got to go!
@Small_Clips_Apologetics
@Small_Clips_Apologetics 5 ай бұрын
😂❤
@briandiehl9257
@briandiehl9257 5 ай бұрын
There's no real evidence that the quran contradicts the trinity
@MrMortal_Ra
@MrMortal_Ra 5 ай бұрын
That it does or that it doesn’t?
@truthseeker37747
@truthseeker37747 5 ай бұрын
You do realize that Islam teaches that God has no son, right?
@briandiehl9257
@briandiehl9257 5 ай бұрын
@@truthseeker37747 yes,that is part of the joke. Obviously the Quran contradicts the trinity
@unsightedmetal6857
@unsightedmetal6857 5 ай бұрын
@@briandiehl9257 I love jokes like these, but it's so hard to detect sarcasm through the internet! (And I'm autistic, so it's especially hard for me)
@truthseeker37747
@truthseeker37747 5 ай бұрын
@@briandiehl9257 Oh, okay. My bad, man. ✋🤚 I can usually detect sarcasm but there are actual idiots who talk as if they know stuff when they don’t do their research. I thought you were one of them. xD
@pennyneal-z7p
@pennyneal-z7p 5 ай бұрын
Love the way you condense so much critical information into a video short! Also, I have seen many people saying, "eww, brother, eww" in live stream chats - you really started a trend with that! 😂
@TheWildTrove
@TheWildTrove 5 ай бұрын
By this logic... there's no real evidence for any historical event
@mikehager4897
@mikehager4897 5 ай бұрын
Incorrect.
@neverstopschweiking
@neverstopschweiking 5 ай бұрын
We do have evidence for the murder of Caesar by senators, including many contemporary accounts, by the fact a war broke out because of it and we have coins from the time celebrating this minted by Brutus. Hannibal crossing the Alps with Elephants is a bit less supported by evidence, but there is still some, same as for Battle of Marathon. I would gladly accept the evidence for Jesus, if there were any. Tacitus wrote his two sentences about Jesus some 80 years after his supposed death. Josephus didn't write about him, it was a forgery by Eusebius. Mara Bar-Serapion probably doesn't talk about Jesus. We actually have better evidence for some dogs who were someone's pets in Rome than we have for the supposed messiah.
@TREWQDSAW
@TREWQDSAW 5 ай бұрын
No.
@MasonsMotions
@MasonsMotions 5 ай бұрын
Your tone is probably what inspires me the most, it’s awesome.
@JadDragon
@JadDragon 5 ай бұрын
And atheist trolls wonder why I don't have time for them when they come out with stuff like this. Jesus lives ♥️ and is God 🙏🏻 Christ ✝️ and King 👑
@jameswitt108
@jameswitt108 5 ай бұрын
The guys he's responding to in the video is a Muslim not an atheist and most atheists who don't hold to mythicism don't deny that Jesus was crucified.
@j0s3phXO
@j0s3phXO 5 ай бұрын
​@@jameswitt108Bill maher dose
@samgreen8902
@samgreen8902 5 ай бұрын
You’re just showing your ignorance there. A lot of atheists don’t deny there might have been a guy called Jesus who was crucified, they just reject the existence of a God, just how you reject the existence of every other got bar your own.
@JadDragon
@JadDragon 5 ай бұрын
@@samgreen8902 interesting how I say "atheist trolls" and you equate that with all atheists.
@HangrySaturn
@HangrySaturn 5 ай бұрын
This guy is a Muslim though.
@aureum7479
@aureum7479 5 ай бұрын
Even Bart Ehrman agrees he was crucified 💀
@dickelbrixjhonlague3235
@dickelbrixjhonlague3235 4 ай бұрын
There's no proof that we actually exist
@simpumoon
@simpumoon 4 ай бұрын
“Jesus died on the cross!” This guy: Nuh uh
@turbo6585
@turbo6585 5 ай бұрын
There's no REAL evidence his hairline isn't receding
@Kharniela
@Kharniela 5 ай бұрын
Thank you, IP! Mike, stay Blessed and Based! ❤
@MattCofer-sw2if
@MattCofer-sw2if 5 ай бұрын
Yeah not even Bart Ehrman denies that he existed and was crucified
@mikehager4897
@mikehager4897 5 ай бұрын
...and we all know that is not the real question. That is if he was a god and we all know that ios a dirty damn lie propagated by dirty damn liars.
@briandiehl9257
@briandiehl9257 5 ай бұрын
@@mikehager4897 No, that is literally the question here
@BongBing11
@BongBing11 5 ай бұрын
​@@mikehager4897Interesting theory, but it's pretty illogical.
@Ex_muslim_alonzo_harris
@Ex_muslim_alonzo_harris 5 ай бұрын
​@@mikehager4897 Bart ehrman - "So yes, now I agree that Jesus is portrayed as a divine being, a God-man, in all the Gospels." The quote from bart ehrman is found on his blog dated April 13th, 2014
@mikehager4897
@mikehager4897 5 ай бұрын
@@BongBing11 You clearly are ignorant of logic. Go learn something and try again.
@boomer_vlogs597
@boomer_vlogs597 5 ай бұрын
It's all about faith in jesus Christ ✝️❤
@KaburKab
@KaburKab 5 ай бұрын
Bots are gettin’ out of hand💀
@ramadadiver7810
@ramadadiver7810 5 ай бұрын
The Caesar example is my long-term favourite . We have no eyewitness writings from those who were present
@mikehager4897
@mikehager4897 5 ай бұрын
Yes, we do. We have lots. We also have writings from the man himself. Have you just never read anything?
@ramadadiver7810
@ramadadiver7810 5 ай бұрын
@@mikehager4897 We do not have writings from the man himself.. Caesar does not record his own assassination
@ben21723
@ben21723 5 ай бұрын
yeah ceaser himself recorded Something,after He died.​@@mikehager4897
@ChristianCombatives
@ChristianCombatives 5 ай бұрын
Any evidence for stuff I don't like may exist, but it isn't "real" evidence.
@mikehager4897
@mikehager4897 5 ай бұрын
Ah, yes! The pitiful whine of those who have no evidence. Whining and crying that your nonsense is not accepted is a pretty sad look. Go get some butthurt cream.
@Dendoi_
@Dendoi_ 5 ай бұрын
I'm a Muslim and eyewitnesses are enough evidence as it gets, I'd recommend going after actual people of knowledge rather than picking at mistakes other Muslims make
@mrintruder
@mrintruder 5 ай бұрын
You SEE this is literally THE PROOF
@armaggon5920
@armaggon5920 5 ай бұрын
The most written about historical figure and the most importance historical figure ever.
@travisanderson3920
@travisanderson3920 5 ай бұрын
There's no real evidence that Momo didn't like little boys
@ramadadiver7810
@ramadadiver7810 5 ай бұрын
😂
@Xpistos510
@Xpistos510 4 ай бұрын
Seeing all evidence of Jesus makes me weep for my Lord.
@saxon6749
@saxon6749 5 ай бұрын
They didn't put ppl up on crosses to survive lol
@immortalmonk2891
@immortalmonk2891 5 ай бұрын
All of those apostles that were executed for telling that "story" sure seems to believe it.
@markfields5214
@markfields5214 5 ай бұрын
People get evidence and proof confused.
@Shaso-xv3tw
@Shaso-xv3tw 5 ай бұрын
My favorite part is the Roman records which describe him being crucified for spreading “anti empire and pacifistic ideology dangerous to the soul of the Roman people”
@BasiliscBaz
@BasiliscBaz 5 ай бұрын
Theres was no REAL people before year 2000
@logicaldude3611
@logicaldude3611 5 ай бұрын
There are no other historical accounts scrutinized the way the Gospels are. And what’s weird about the crucifixion of Jesus is that there’s nothing in there that jumps out as, “Aha! This is totally unrealistic historically!” No, it all fits remarkably well into that time period. And moreover, not a single person in the first century comes out and says, “These Christians are weird. They worship a guy who didn’t even exist and they keep saying he was crucified.” No, one of the main arguments against Christianity in the first century was, “Who would worship a crucified god?”
@mikehager4897
@mikehager4897 5 ай бұрын
"Logical"? Nonsense. You think someone coming from the dead is realistic? You think the sun standing still in the sky is realistic? You think that many people in Jerusalem got out of their graves? Seriously?
@neverstopschweiking
@neverstopschweiking 5 ай бұрын
Well, if you ignore all evidence, than you can believe in the bible. Example: According to the bible, Jesus was supposedly born on a way to attend a census and after his birth, Herod the Great sent his men to kill babies. Historical facts: We know the census took place, it was Census of Roman Judaea, it took place in the year 6 C.E. We also know sons of Herod ruled and minted coins as rulers since the year 4 B.C., which is when Herod died. In other words, we have material evidence that Herod was already dead for a decade by the time of the census.
@ksosa_.4778
@ksosa_.4778 4 ай бұрын
Great work Ip
@Pyr0Ben
@Pyr0Ben 5 ай бұрын
There really is something to be said about the evidence for the resurrection if the people claiming a jewish guy DIDN'T rise from the dead are the ones doing mental gymnastics
@oolooo
@oolooo 5 ай бұрын
"We ignored all the evidence and we found no evidence"
@sebasie0123-d8w
@sebasie0123-d8w 3 ай бұрын
Me after listening to funny beard guy in video. Me: So mum, there is no evidence that I, your only son at home and only man in this house, ate the last cookie.
@adamstewart9052
@adamstewart9052 5 ай бұрын
It didn't cross his mind to wonder why people started telling that story.
@liberatedfreak
@liberatedfreak 5 ай бұрын
The Yeshu in Sanhedrin 43a was not the Yeshua of the 1st Entry AD, but was a different Jewish man, also from Nazareth, who lived during the time of King Yannai (104-78 BC), was a former student of Yehoshua ben Peraḥya, and was known for his idolatry and sorcery. He was executed by stoning, not crucifixion, and had five disciples (not twelve), whose names do not match with any of Jesus’ Christ’s disciples. Read the context around the Talmud Sanhedrin 43a quote, and see also B. Sanhedrin 107b, v.8-14, and B. Sotah 47a, v.6-13. I bring this as a technical correction; the rest of your argument stands strong. I love your work, Michael; I’m a sincere fan of what you do, and very grateful.
@sanguine7599
@sanguine7599 5 ай бұрын
The Galatians whom Christ was crucified directly in front of also quickly forgot this.
@briandiehl9257
@briandiehl9257 5 ай бұрын
Do you know where Galatia is and where Jesus died
@sanguine7599
@sanguine7599 5 ай бұрын
Do you forget that this is what Paul said to them?
@ramadadiver7810
@ramadadiver7810 5 ай бұрын
​@@briandiehl9257 Jesus would of had some gentile disciples and apostles
@briandiehl9257
@briandiehl9257 5 ай бұрын
@@ramadadiver7810 perhapse, but it seems unlikely any of them would be from galatia
@ramadadiver7810
@ramadadiver7810 5 ай бұрын
@@briandiehl9257 Well jesus was crucified around passover where many Jews from galaltia would have travelled to jeruselum
@kastorstudios801
@kastorstudios801 5 ай бұрын
“Paul confirmed” the guy who wasn’t even there😂?
@chenchi6623
@chenchi6623 5 ай бұрын
were you there tho?
@kuafer3687
@kuafer3687 5 ай бұрын
He met with his brother and closest disciples
@kastorstudios801
@kastorstudios801 5 ай бұрын
@@kuafer3687 again that’s all according to Paul
@kuafer3687
@kuafer3687 5 ай бұрын
​Council of Jerusalem is recorded outside of Pauline epistles. That's just stupid to deny Paul knew the Apostles, he was their contemporary @@kastorstudios801
@Verge63
@Verge63 5 ай бұрын
​@@kastorstudios801We don't have reliable resources that you exist.
@Boundaryy
@Boundaryy 5 ай бұрын
Lets not forget that Tacitus despised Christians and called them a "disease" so he is the most unbiased source in favor of the crucifixion. If anything he had every motive to say the opposite of what he actually said, but thankfully he was at least an honest historian.
@johnlee7699
@johnlee7699 5 ай бұрын
The way that dude's eyes are darting everywhere shows his bluff!
@onestoptechnologies7305
@onestoptechnologies7305 5 ай бұрын
“If the world hates you, you know that it hated Me before it hated you."
@Se7en983
@Se7en983 5 ай бұрын
Someone once said to me that Jesus never existed. I said oh that’s funny neither did the Romans… he said YES they did…. I said, oh thats good because they kept records about the crucifixion of Jesus!! So if the Romans existed then so did Jesus of nazareth 👍
@G02372
@G02372 5 ай бұрын
And in China the Emperor Guangwu of Han wrote about the death of Jesus as well.
@sergeemmanuelt.5398
@sergeemmanuelt.5398 5 ай бұрын
Tell us more about that
@G02372
@G02372 5 ай бұрын
@@sergeemmanuelt.5398 “Yin and Yang have mistakenly switched, and the sun and moon were eclipsed. The sins of all the people are now on one man. Pardon is proclaimed to all under heaven.” History of Latter Han Dynasty, Volume 1, Chronicles of Emperor Guang Wu, 7th year. “In the day of Gui Hai, the last day of the month, there was a solar eclipse. [The emperor] avoided the Throne Room, suspended all military activities and did not handle official business for five days.” History of Latter Han Dynasty, Vol. 1, Chronicles of Emperor Guang Wu, 7th year”. Another historical record says: “Eclipse on the day of Gui Hai, Man from Heaven died”. History of Latter Han, Annals, No. 18, Gui Hai. As we know, when Christ died there was darkness that covered the earth. “From the sixth hour until the ninth hour darkness came over all the land.” Mark 15:33.
@G02372
@G02372 5 ай бұрын
@@sergeemmanuelt.5398 “Yin and Yang have mistakenly switched, and the sun and moon were eclipsed. The sins of all the people are now on one man. Pardon is proclaimed to all under heaven.” History of Latter Han Dynasty, Volume 1, Chronicles of Emperor Guang Wu, 7th year. “In the day of Gui Hai, the last day of the month, there was a solar eclipse. [The emperor] avoided the Throne Room, suspended all military activities and did not handle official business for five days.” History of Latter Han Dynasty, Vol. 1, Chronicles of Emperor Guang Wu, 7th year”. Another historical record says: “Eclipse on the day of Gui Hai, Man from Heaven died”. History of Latter Han, Annals, No. 18, Gui Hai. As we know, when Christ died there was darkness that covered the earth. “From the sixth hour until the ninth hour darkness came over all the land.” Mark 15:33. fb.watch/s3F75YahtT/?
@G02372
@G02372 5 ай бұрын
@@sergeemmanuelt.5398 it gets deleted every time that I tell you more!
@zee561
@zee561 5 ай бұрын
There is a verifiable chain of narration for the hadith. Can you produce the same for jesus?
@dewaldt8104
@dewaldt8104 5 ай бұрын
Yes, we have about 6 independent sources verifying who the authors of the 4 Gospels were. We also have the fact that the Quran says that the Bible is true.
@briandiehl9257
@briandiehl9257 5 ай бұрын
Yes, but our chains are a lot shorter since the writings were the same century as Jesus
@223cw7
@223cw7 4 ай бұрын
Yes and they are way better than your chains. Most of the names in Muslim chain of narration are random, anyone can make that up. It’s not difficult to make up names and make up stories and backgrounds.
@timeones
@timeones 5 ай бұрын
There's are absolutely no first hand accounts of Jesus' crucification.
@aaronmueller5802
@aaronmueller5802 4 ай бұрын
That's not true but let's pretend it is. So what? There are no first hand accounts of Hannibal crossing the Alps. The idea that something must be a first hand account to be credible invalidates the entire field of history.
@CzechsTeaNine
@CzechsTeaNine 5 ай бұрын
I love how the Abfools lying with a straight face
@Keravonos
@Keravonos 4 ай бұрын
I love that you even pulled out text from people who hate jesus that co firmed he was crucified, nothing more convincing on seeing the enemy confirm history.😂😂 good job man. Genuinely
@HeadlessZombY
@HeadlessZombY 5 ай бұрын
So... i think he's specifically talking about dying on the cross. Not that he never died or existed. Which was actually a bit crazier to think about.
@kevin11007
@kevin11007 5 ай бұрын
The problem is there are 3000 religion's to choose from, someone's going to be disappointed.
@salserokorsou
@salserokorsou 5 ай бұрын
Yeah that's how we know Muhammad split the moon in 2.
@sentionaut6270
@sentionaut6270 5 ай бұрын
the easter bunny said that he left candy for me. so it must be true.
@joanmcsweeney5547
@joanmcsweeney5547 5 ай бұрын
These people still exist? There is an overwhelming amount of evidence...to over look it is to be the biggest FOOL
@abm5707
@abm5707 5 ай бұрын
There's no real evidence that the old man knows what he's talking about.
@captainmario11991
@captainmario11991 5 ай бұрын
There’s is no real proof that I’m the same captainmario that fell asleep last night
@kevin-en2pi
@kevin-en2pi 5 ай бұрын
If we leave the land of make believe we can no longer discuss the bible
@beadpoet
@beadpoet 5 ай бұрын
I hate when people use the Bible as a history book. It's not
@dewaldt8104
@dewaldt8104 5 ай бұрын
Really? How so?
@beadpoet
@beadpoet 5 ай бұрын
@@dewaldt8104 it's a story book. There is no fact in it. I read Dracula and Frankenstein, but I'm smart enough to know they aren't real.
@dewaldt8104
@dewaldt8104 5 ай бұрын
@@beadpoet OK, but you have to actually explain how it's a story book. We know Dracula and Frankenstein are story books because their authors told us they intended to write fiction. However the authors of the Bible ever said the Bible was meant to be fiction.
@beadpoet
@beadpoet 5 ай бұрын
@@dewaldt8104 I can just ask easily say it's as true as the Bible. There is NOTHING about the Bible to imply it's true other than someone once said it was and another person believed it.
@beadpoet
@beadpoet 5 ай бұрын
@@dewaldt8104 like Adam and Eve. There is ABSOLUTELY no possible way they created all humans. That is the most incestuous family EVER.
@sirkermitthefirstoffrogeth9622
@sirkermitthefirstoffrogeth9622 5 ай бұрын
Everyone that was in Judea: "Yea, Jesus got crucified."
@inukithesavage828
@inukithesavage828 5 ай бұрын
No evidence == they don't want to accept it.
@marianoapuya5664
@marianoapuya5664 5 ай бұрын
The NASA moon landing did not take place. People take that seriously too, and that’s only decades ago.
@Zach2A
@Zach2A 4 ай бұрын
brilliant video
@danascully1248
@danascully1248 5 ай бұрын
Same vibes as "there's no real evidence for macroevolution"
@Speak454
@Speak454 5 ай бұрын
He speaks truth. Actually Yahawah is his actual name and what’s more he was hung a tree 🗣️
@lodestar3984
@lodestar3984 5 ай бұрын
Without lies, Islam dies.
@guychase5842
@guychase5842 5 ай бұрын
“Early christian “ sources no earlier than 325 CE - Council of Nicea
@Rahotepppp
@Rahotepppp 5 ай бұрын
Nope. The Council of Nicea was for Arianism not Biblical Canons, get it right. They had nothing to do with it. Also the sources he put up are historical sources which predate the Council of Nicea. Drop your ego and have humility at the face of Truth
@IsaiahINRI
@IsaiahINRI 5 ай бұрын
Once again. If you ignore all the evidence then there is no evidence.
@Small_Clips_Apologetics
@Small_Clips_Apologetics 5 ай бұрын
Cults deny history to but bring in falsehood.
@dugw15
@dugw15 5 ай бұрын
The Hadith are pretty questionable historically.
@TROadorn
@TROadorn 5 ай бұрын
How old is earth and how many days it took to create - also what does it mean? About history and philosophical world of religions?
@AdonaiSaxon01
@AdonaiSaxon01 5 ай бұрын
That Josephus quote may be a medieval fabrication… I’ll put that out at least
@Ra3bAbdulRa7man
@Ra3bAbdulRa7man 5 ай бұрын
Name a SINGLE PRIMARY WITNESSES to the crucifixion 🤔
@Random64_
@Random64_ 4 ай бұрын
The Apostle John is a primary witness
@Ra3bAbdulRa7man
@Ra3bAbdulRa7man 4 ай бұрын
@@Random64_ 1st century Historically sound source?
@Random64_
@Random64_ 4 ай бұрын
While the Gospel of John was written several decades after the events it describes, it remains historically sound due to the reliance on oral tradition, eyewitness testimony, early manuscript evidence, and consistency with other historical sources. These factors support the credibility of the Gospel as a valuable historical document.
@Ra3bAbdulRa7man
@Ra3bAbdulRa7man 4 ай бұрын
@@Random64_ So where is the 1at century Manuscripts? You don't have a 1st century historically sound source ....but your talking to me like you do........
@Random64_
@Random64_ 4 ай бұрын
@Ra3bAbdulRa7man While first-century manuscripts of the New Testament do not exist anymore, the survival of early fragments and the transmission of the texts through manuscript copies and early Christian writings support the historical reliability of the New Testament. Scholars use these sources along with textual criticism to reconstruct the original text and to show its authenticity and accuracy.
@maylabrown4584
@maylabrown4584 5 ай бұрын
Even other Muslims betray that Jesus Christ was executed, what is this talking about???
@Stormer13
@Stormer13 5 ай бұрын
I find it funny how even atheist historians agree that Jesus was a man who lived around the beginning of the first century, teaching about love and forgiveness, and then was executed by crucifixion. They just stop agreeing with Christians at the point of what happened after his death.
@michelferreira9695
@michelferreira9695 5 ай бұрын
They keep repeating these lies for those who love to hear it. "Tell us, tell us how Christ is not Lord and Savior! Tell us!" I lost count how many times I heard "there's no evidence", but there are plenty. But they say bold lies with confidence, and people buy it. "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables."
@isakrynell8771
@isakrynell8771 5 ай бұрын
I’m an atheist. But the Tacitus account is believable. Yes there was a man named Jesus whose followers founded Christianity and yes he was crucified. That does not how ever in the slightest prove any of the supernatural claims about Jesus.
@Uchoobe-pg2nn
@Uchoobe-pg2nn 5 ай бұрын
He was literally crucified 😂😂😂 they really are simple minded aren't they
@rpierwit
@rpierwit 5 ай бұрын
Now a days there is no real evidence that man isn't AI. 🤔🙄
@LeBlancFamily-f4k
@LeBlancFamily-f4k 5 ай бұрын
Wasn't Islam started like, 500 years after Christianity? I dont even know where i heard that.
@uberfeel
@uberfeel 5 ай бұрын
Ironic, their only source for Jesus Christ is the Injil (Gospel) which was written by the same people who witnessed and testified Jesus's crucifixion.
@dewaldt8104
@dewaldt8104 5 ай бұрын
The gospels weren't written by the Romans, they were written by John and Matthew (who were desciples) and Luke and Mark who were apostles.
@MuhammadIdris-jb6jv
@MuhammadIdris-jb6jv 5 ай бұрын
tbh, basing your salvation on a story from eyewitnesses that don’t even identify who they are is….. foolish. but with Islam, we have eyewitnesses that did have existed in history ex. Abu Bakar As-Siddiq r.a Uthman bin Affan r.a, Ali bin Abu Talib r.a, Zaid bin Harithah r.a, Bilal bin Rabah r.a, Khalid bin Al-Walid r.a, Aisyah binti Abu Bakar As-siddiq, Khadijah binti Khuwailid and many more. in fact, the hadiths can be considered solid because they were from legitimate eyewitnesses that was passed through a constant chain of narration. tell me, who and which is John, Matthew, Mark, Luke, Paul and all the other people that compiled the bible? at this point, you’re just believing a story made up by people with a one word name.
@MuhammadIdris-jb6jv
@MuhammadIdris-jb6jv 5 ай бұрын
and another thing, there is no such thing as different versions of the Quran. the Quran have different dialects and pronunciations.(ahrufs such as Hafs and Warsh) they’re seven different ways in pronouncing the Quran though. These pronunciations were made during the spread of Islam to other regions in the middle east and north Africa. this made it easier for non-arab speakers to read the Quran. Moving on to the burning qurans question. this action was done by Caliph Uthman bin Affan r.a. but not just him, there was a committee of sahabas who joined him in compiling the Quran. The verses of the Quran were written from memory from the sahabas and they (the sahabas who memorised the verses) double checked the the written verses and made sure there was no mistake. And so, all of the of the Qurans that *weren’t* approved by the committee are burned and Caliph Uthman made sure that the non approved ones aren’t circulating throughout the Khulafah Ar-rashidum empire.
@Rahotepppp
@Rahotepppp 5 ай бұрын
Are you seriously telling me Paul, John, Matthew, Luke and the other disciples COMPILED the Bible? Wow.. wow..
@Rahotepppp
@Rahotepppp 5 ай бұрын
Yes because that was common as hell back then, one Historian he mentioned in the video is Ticatus. That's where Historians get their knowledge of what Rome was in the first Century but guess what? He never wrote his name in his Writings. So the writings are internally anonymous, but externally it isn't because the disciples of the Apostles confirmed it was indeed written by them.
@Rahotepppp
@Rahotepppp 5 ай бұрын
Also the Apostles did exist, if you don't believe that then you don't believe in History no offense
@MuhammadIdris-jb6jv
@MuhammadIdris-jb6jv 5 ай бұрын
@@Rahotepppp ok, wrote the gospels.
@waseemhermiz7565
@waseemhermiz7565 5 ай бұрын
A muslim speaking about evidence is pure comedy
@ordinarylife2343
@ordinarylife2343 5 ай бұрын
There's no witnesses when Muhammad went to heaven with a flying wing horse.
@davereinhardt615
@davereinhardt615 5 ай бұрын
I guess we could believe in the Quran since it was written over 300 years after Mohammad
@header_guard1112
@header_guard1112 5 ай бұрын
I've never seen a video of George Washington. I don't doubt his existence.
@Myway2011
@Myway2011 2 ай бұрын
THIS ISN'T MAKE BELIEVE! IT'S OUR REEALIIITYY!
@NoPallWLeb
@NoPallWLeb 5 ай бұрын
The existence of Jesus is a fact. But at the end of the they it charges nothing. He was just a somehow important person.
@babylonking9896
@babylonking9896 5 ай бұрын
How stating the facts that there is ZERO EVIDENCE in our scriptures that MO is a prophet sent by GOD.
@alu4ever516
@alu4ever516 5 ай бұрын
Tacitus Josephus all of them were not reliable enough and we cannot prove their words to be reliable. While for the Hadiths, every single narrator is critically questioned their memory, their liability and reliability and truthfulness and behavior and everything and then their words are matched every single letter with other narrators. Hadiths science is hardcore and tough to pass. If you apply those criteria to other “historical events” then yes we cannot surely say whether those events happened or not.
@briandiehl9257
@briandiehl9257 5 ай бұрын
For Jesus's crucifixion it didn't even need to be passed by narrators
@ashzole
@ashzole 5 ай бұрын
Your rebuttal has validity. Nonetheless, there is NO evidence Jesus was crucified.
@JalenBrunson05
@JalenBrunson05 5 ай бұрын
That’s a blatant lie.
@beng2307
@beng2307 5 ай бұрын
Josephus the historian is a reliable source, I will put money on that.
@mikehager4897
@mikehager4897 5 ай бұрын
...and the passages in Josephus are well known to be later forgeries. Bring a liar for jesus is nothing new.
@ryanmozert
@ryanmozert 5 ай бұрын
The Shroud of Turin as well
@Crimsonlupus
@Crimsonlupus 5 ай бұрын
That’s sadly debatable
@ryanmozert
@ryanmozert 5 ай бұрын
@@Crimsonlupus no. it isnt.
@Crimsonlupus
@Crimsonlupus 5 ай бұрын
@@ryanmozert it very much is. I’ve spent much time looking into the shroud phenomenon, it’s more likely to be fake than real. If it was real that be awesome, but it’s probably not. There’s one researcher who had replicated something very similar to it, like very similar. His name escapes me but if I remember I’ll let you know and send you a place to go look
@ryanmozert
@ryanmozert 5 ай бұрын
@@Crimsonlupus no one has EVER even come close to replicating the shroud though many have tried . I've read books on it it is completely genuine and you are completely crazy for thinking that
@Crimsonlupus
@Crimsonlupus 5 ай бұрын
@@ryanmozert I thought that too until I come across the contrary. Dude calm down it’s not that serious, calling me crazy over this is immature
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