Muslims Refute This Christian Missionary With His Own Bible

[@coaching.worked]

Clarification on Translation and Consensus in Islam Assalamu Alaikum, Regarding the point about rejecting translations of the Qur'an that include concepts not explicitly mentioned in the original text, I would like to provide some clarification. There is a hadith narrated by At-Tirmidhi (2167) from Ibn ‘Umar (may Allah be pleased with him), in which the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) said: “Allah will not cause my ummah to agree on falsehood; the hand of Allah is with the Jamaa‘ah (the main body of the Muslims).” This hadith has been classed as hasan (sound) by al-Albaani. The meaning of this hadith is that Allah has protected the scholars of the ummah of Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) from unanimously agreeing on anything that is false. This divine protection, however, applies only to the consensus (ijma’) of the scholars of the ummah at any given time. It does not apply to the agreement of only some scholars, the majority of scholars, or the common people. Agreement among the general public or the uninformed does not guarantee truth, as what truly matters in matters of religion is the consensus of qualified scholars. It’s essential to understand that in Islam, the title of “scholar” is not conferred upon anyone who is merely well-read or academically educated. A scholar is someone who has studied deeply under recognized Islamic scholars and within established Islamic institutions. Fringe opinions often create confusion and are especially problematic for laypeople like myself and many of you. To safeguard ourselves from misguidance, it is always best to adhere to the consensus of qualified Islamic scholars. In doing so, we entrust ourselves to the guidance Allah has provided through His chosen servants. Allah knows best. Assalamu Alaikum wa Rahmatullahi Wabarakatuh, Abbas

[@1541965]

Allah spoke in the Holy Quran about the three different concept and versions of the trinity that you have in Christianity. المائدة - الآية 72 لَقَدْ كَفَرَ الَّذِينَ قَالُوا إِنَّ اللَّهَ هُوَ الْمَسِيحُ ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ ۖ وَقَالَ الْمَسِيحُ يَا بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ اعْبُدُوا اللَّهَ رَبِّي وَرَبَّكُمْ ۖ إِنَّهُ مَن يُشْرِكْ بِاللَّهِ فَقَدْ حَرَّمَ اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ الْجَنَّةَ وَمَأْوَاهُ النَّارُ ۖ وَمَا لِلظَّالِمِينَ مِنْ أَنصَارٍ Quran (5:72) They do blaspheme who say: "Allah is Christ the son of Mary." But said Christ: "O Children of Israel! worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Whoever joins other gods with Allah,- Allah will forbid him the garden, and the Fire will be his abode. There will for the wrong-doers be no one to help. This verse is talking about the Orthodox who believe that the father and the son has one nature and one will and the Holy Spirit proceed from the father alone. المائدة - الآية 73 لَّقَدْ كَفَرَ الَّذِينَ قَالُوا إِنَّ اللَّهَ ثَالِثُ ثَلَاثَةٍ ۘ وَمَا مِنْ إِلَٰهٍ إِلَّا إِلَٰهٌ وَاحِدٌ ۚ وَإِن لَّمْ يَنتَهُوا عَمَّا يَقُولُونَ لَيَمَسَّنَّ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا مِنْهُمْ عَذَابٌ أَلِيمٌ Quran (5:73) They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity: for there is no god except One Allah. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them. This verse is talking about those who say Allah is 3 persons in one Godhead one out of Three as you read in 1st John 5:7 said المائدة - الآية 116 وإِذْ قَالَ اللَّهُ يَا عِيسَى ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ أَأَنتَ قُلْتَ لِلنَّاسِ اتَّخِذُونِي وَأُمِّيَ إِلَٰهَيْنِ مِن دُونِ اللَّهِ ۖ قَالَ سُبْحَانَكَ مَا يَكُونُ لِي أَنْ أَقُولَ مَا لَيْسَ لِي بِحَقٍّ ۚ إِن كُنتُ قُلْتُهُ فَقَدْ عَلِمْتَهُ ۚ تَعْلَمُ مَا فِي نَفْسِي وَلَا أَعْلَمُ مَا فِي نَفْسِكَ ۚ إِنَّكَ أَنتَ عَلَّامُ الْغُيُوبِ Quran (5:116) And when Allah saith: O Jesus, son of Mary! Did you say unto mankind: Take me and my mother for two gods beside Allah? he saith: Be glorified! It was not mine to utter that to which I had no right. If I used to say it, then you would have known it. You know what is in my mind, and I know not what is in Thy Mind. Lo! Indeed, it is only You who is Knower of the unseen. This verse speaks about the Collyridianism (or Kollyridianism) was a Early Christian movement in Arabia whose adherents apparently worshipped the Virgin Mary, mother of Jesus as divine with God and also the Catholics who venerate Glorify Virgin Mary to the point of worshiping her based on the evidence of the prayer of the Virgin, in Greek Theotokos the Mother of God, which is present among them. Catholics believe that the Father and the Son have two different natures and two different wills, and that the Holy Spirit proceed from the Father and the Son, and that the Virgin Mary does not need Christ to save her from sin because she is the Mother of God.

[@trappedinexistence]

your definition of scholar is made up. there were no institutions during the first communities. your entire argument collapses. the quran explicitly says don't follow the majority. appealing to the majority opinion is a fallacy. there are ahadith saying the same. follow the truth even if it goes against "ijmaa" or "consensus" of any group.

[@spiritzen]

Christian utterly destroyed by his own text.

[@husicaris]

5:30 This man cant be serious. Indeed its the hearts that are blind.

[@hanifhabib1843]

He is just playing dumb for the sake of getting money from KZbin …

[@nakinaki7991]

And say: "Praise be to God who has not taken a son, nor does He have a partner in sovereignty, nor does He have an ally out of weakness." And glorify Him greatly. (İsrâ 17:111)

[@peterhwang352]

Muslims love Mary so much that they make her greater than Allah! Jesus is always called the son of Mary even though she had no husband. But Allah cannot have a son because he has no wife! Surah 6:101

[@ducati3241]

@@peterhwang352Substantiate ur ‘claims’.. Show e evidence. Quote the verses. Lets see how IGNORANT u r.

[@jumpingjack5651]

@@peterhwang352 What do you mean Mary had no husband? Who was Joseph?

[@Bean-qt4dy]

This contradicts the Holy Bible

[@Bean-qt4dy]

Mary's husband is Joseph Why you say Mary had no spouse? Jesus wears alot of hats and has many titles to his credit

[@kayty6673]

I am a Christian and agree with my Muslim brothers.

[@yizzysblock]

You're not Christian then, you're Muslim. Christianity is not a race, its a religion, so you cannot believe and agree with Muslims and still be Christian. Take your Shahada, make it official what you already have in your heart and be true to yourself.

[@undaulun]

Mashaallah may Allah guide you amen

[@autisticman4396]

The fact that you're a Christian doesn't mean anything. It's cringe when both sides do this. Please don't.

[@Hydrogen9999]

Ameen​@@undaulun

[@dodosback]

God bless you, from a Palestinian whose ancestors are rooted in the first Christians of the world. May God continue guiding you and us all. "Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “O People of the Book! Let us come to common terms: that we will worship none but Allah, associate none with Him, nor take one another as lords instead of Allah.” But if they turn away, then say, “Bear witness that we have submitted ˹to Allah alone˺.”"- Quran 3:64

[@HW.UROBOROS]

Christian logic must be something else.

[@nghaider]

Its called "Nonsense"

[@jefri3575]

Remember the magic words ...."Misteryyyyy"...

[@sondrameyer2816]

As a child I use to love the Merry Go 'Round. However when it comes to religion that ride only makes one dizzy and never takes you to any real destination.

[@HamzahHeru-s5k]

When the topic is asked to other Christian men, the explanation will definitely be much different.

[@1stnativeamericanmuslim560]

Christians always fall back on the word “us” or “our”

[@Naushad1210]

Alhamdulillah! The Muslims answered the challenge to their book by asking their interlocutor to read the words on the page MORE precisely. The Christian answered the challenge to his book by asking his interlocutors NOT to read too precisely the words on the page. This happens every time.

[@mohammedshabir2804]

It's so sad how all Christians have there own version of God

[@peterhwang352]

It is sad when people construct an idol of their own imagination instead of learning from God's revelation of himself in the ancient scriptures. Allah of the Quran doesn't quite fit either, however.

[@user-rn2ks9ch9h]

The version of Muslim God comes from Christians.

[@syedsirajuddin6710]

I burst out laughing when when the Dawah team incredulously ask the Christian missionary "Is the second commandment not proof for you?"

[@mohamedkaba8068]

Salaam in this life you're either intelligent or Christian may Allah facilitate the understanding

[@osuclassof88]

This is the beauty of scripture in original language. Human still can argue about translation since translation depends on translator knowledge, biases, and preferred choice of words.

[@CutiePie-hh3gg]

He just wants to argue

[@JasenkoOmerovic]

1 God so simple

[@user-rn2ks9ch9h]

Lol you're so smart.

[@snazy7777]

This was a brilliant video, May all of your efforts be increased and accepted.

[@Tislyfe]

I’m greatful to Allah for fulfilling His promise of making it evident the signs for His existence and glory. Reverts and ppl like myself are a testimony to the truth of Islam. Reverts come to the truth by researching and coming to a logical conclusion. Me who was born Muslim but raised secular with no Islamic knowledge also research and come to a logical conclusion. It has been and will always be beyond me to understand HOW ppl can worship a man as the creator or anything that’s created. It makes no sense. Also it’s not about “Allah is limited and can’t be human” that is illogical. God is god, if he becomes anything of His creation he will lose the glory to lower himself. It’s illogical because by definition god is the most powerful so therefore can not by nature become human nor ‘create a rock so heavy he can’t lift’ 🙄so dumb

[@peterhwang352]

Unless God limits himself to a level we can see or hear or understand we could never know him. To limit himself to a burning bush to Moses or to the appearance of a man to Jacob in no way violates his gracious and perfect character. What is a violation is that he would never speak the incorrect and self contradictory words of the Quran. You still have much to learn, do not stop searching.

[@Tislyfe]

@ it does violate his essence and being. And God does not need to be in his creation to communicate with them. This also is a limitation. When you speak to someone on the phone, they are NOT in the phone. They can be on the other side of the earth! Yet you want to accept that god who created the cosmos needs to be in his own creation. Absolute nonsense. Like I said, I accepted Islam. I may have been born Muslim by name, I was not by belief or practice. I live in Canada and was raised here, married here. I have been to the church. I have also gone to the temples of the Hindus. Only islams concept of god was logical. Literally every other religion or belief that I searched into at the time had contradictions, deficiencies and weaknesses. One day it just passed my mind to “why not search Islam also?” Bcuz I believed at the time Islam was just some backward belief out of the deserts of Arabia.

[@myuzairy7324]

@@peterhwang352 _Unless God limits himself to a level we can see or hear or understand we could never know him_ So you believe your god can limit himself - like forgetting his knowledge, losing his divinity and forsaking his immortality? Like how Zeus, Osiris and Vishnu does? 😏

[@Mr3z0z]

( فتعالى الله عما يشركون )

[@IsaacLani-z2d]

😅😅😅when preacher mode turns off then the skill "brain dead comprehension" turns on

[@fazlikhalifah]

As usual, most Christian apologists wants the Quran to speak for their beliefs. When it’s not, then the Quran is wrong. Oh c’mon…

[@Bean-qt4dy]

No its the other way around

[@fazlikhalifah]

You’re saying: Most Islam apologists wants the Bible to speak for their belief. When it’s not, then the Bible is wrong. Is that what you’re trying to say?

[@Bean-qt4dy]

@@fazlikhalifah Every Christian believes and knows the New Testament is authentic We don’t believe in anything Islamic Nor do the Jews Jesus died on the cross He is Messiah Lord and savior The Quran came so far after the Bible and copied the Bible and the Old Testament

[@Bean-qt4dy]

@@fazlikhalifah But Muslims actually believe in the People of the Book Only because your Quran says it But if it contradicts the Quran All of a sudden it must be corrupted or false However the New and Old Testament are from God no matter how many authors But ofcourse you won’t ever believe that because you think the Quran clarifies and corrects the mistakes made by the authors of the Bible and/or the authors like Paul had some kind of agenda Did you ever stop to think about the other theories?

[@Bean-qt4dy]

@@fazlikhalifah Christians and Jews don’t follow the book you follow So no apologists Far from it

[@idrisanimagac.4086]

Playing dumb is what they’re doing They understand the trinity but not simple verses personally I’ll never entertain this type of people I have no doubt this people know what they believe is a lie

[@peterhwang352]

You cannot even admit that Jesus came to die, denying everything he taught and lived for. Luke 9.

[@idrisanimagac.4086]

@ I don’t believe in human sacrifice I will face the most merciful as well as I can having hope in he’s mercy knowing he’s the most just

[@Toronado2]

​ @peterhwang352 Do you mean like : For GOD so Loved the World that He killed his ONLY Son? Is that what you mean?

[@idrisanimagac.4086]

@@Toronado2 I don’t believe in god having a son like the Christian concept and we don’t believe I human sacrifice

[@zaidakraa3185]

Who the hell was luke? He havent even meet Jesus, how can he even make claims?​@@peterhwang352

[@Emaz786]

the verse literally says do not say three.. is it that to understand?

[@hosam9714]

He fumbled so hard at the end 🫨🫨🫨

[@anasmaknassa2967]

30:18 the look they gave each other is actually hilarious loool

[@dansaracen6840]

Is this from today? I was there and didn’t see you guys just want to make sure I’m going to the right part as it was my first time visiting

[@A-Ghorab]

This seems to be a summer video from the clothing. They have a lot of videos from everyday day, so it takes some time for videos to be uploaded.

[@ft7397]

out of countless translations he found one he can twist and using that as truth

[@WaleedKhan-ou3ii]

The greatest trick that Shaytan played on human beings is make them believe that Allah took Esa AS as a son.

[@peterhwang352]

Esa is the name that God hates. Malachi 1. Shaytan has tricked you into believing in Allah, the god of the Arabs.

[@jjryan1352]

The greatest trick was convincing mankind he doesn't exist. He's got them worshipping false idols throughout human history

[@Bean-qt4dy]

Yeah. And how did the devil do that?

[@myuzairy7324]

@@Bean-qt4dy _And how did the devil do that?_ Through Paul.

[@Bean-qt4dy]

@@myuzairy7324 Then you may want to read the rest of the Bible and you can indict John the Baptist and the other followers of Jesus as well. Paul may have written the most chapters but he isn’t the only author who confirms Jesus as the Son of Man

[@freeman7983]

Thanks ALLAH for Islam

[@Winning1980]

26:07 both brothers are just embarrassed for that man , you can tell they feel bad for him and his argument , some people are just ignorant on purpose , may Allah SWT guide them .

[@shahzadrasool7113]

18:00 - 18:59 Br. Imran has very cool headedly smashed any or all of arguments, simply by asking find the 1/3 or 2/3.. Later the dialogue verses of Allah(SWT) and Jesus(PBUH) on the day of judgment is br. Imran's proof and masterstroke.

[@Bean-qt4dy]

That is an issue. Mary is a virgin but she does get married to Joseph. The Angel of God comes to Joseph and reassures him that Mary’s child is a great blessing.

[@amadedon]

at least he is polite

[@faisalmohammed4641]

Even if Qur'an says 3..... It doesn't mean it's Trinity.... For it to be Trinity it has to be 3, coequal in union

[@abdiguhad5918]

In one part, Quran says Allah is one & in the verse he is quoting refutes that idea-that Allah is three in one.

[@momonasri8611]

My brain hurts trying to follow the logic of the Christian guy.

[@vocablab5653]

Christians, make up your mind! Either - "The author of the Quran doesn't know much about Christianity and Judaism, to the point he gets the trinity wrong" or - "He is so advanced in his knowledge of these religions. That is the reason he even makes wordplay on biblical names"

[@Bean-qt4dy]

@@vocablab5653 Why don’t you ask a Rabbi to give you his honest answer about Islam? Ask him the truth about who Mohammed is and what he thinks of the Quran? Then ask him what does both the Bible and Quran mean to them?

[@Ismail-Yahya]

☝🏽

[@rafizmuqolli3280]

guys is the a second part to this?

[@1541965]

Allah spoke in the Holy Quran about the three different concept and versions of the trinity that you have in Christianity. المائدة - الآية 72 لَقَدْ كَفَرَ الَّذِينَ قَالُوا إِنَّ اللَّهَ هُوَ الْمَسِيحُ ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ ۖ وَقَالَ الْمَسِيحُ يَا بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ اعْبُدُوا اللَّهَ رَبِّي وَرَبَّكُمْ ۖ إِنَّهُ مَن يُشْرِكْ بِاللَّهِ فَقَدْ حَرَّمَ اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ الْجَنَّةَ وَمَأْوَاهُ النَّارُ ۖ وَمَا لِلظَّالِمِينَ مِنْ أَنصَارٍ Quran (5:72) They do blaspheme who say: "Allah is Christ the son of Mary." But said Christ: "O Children of Israel! worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Whoever joins other gods with Allah,- Allah will forbid him the garden, and the Fire will be his abode. There will for the wrong-doers be no one to help. This verse is talking about the Orthodox who believe that the father and the son has one nature and one will and the Holy Spirit proceed from the father alone. المائدة - الآية 73 لَّقَدْ كَفَرَ الَّذِينَ قَالُوا إِنَّ اللَّهَ ثَالِثُ ثَلَاثَةٍ ۘ وَمَا مِنْ إِلَٰهٍ إِلَّا إِلَٰهٌ وَاحِدٌ ۚ وَإِن لَّمْ يَنتَهُوا عَمَّا يَقُولُونَ لَيَمَسَّنَّ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا مِنْهُمْ عَذَابٌ أَلِيمٌ Quran (5:73) They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity: for there is no god except One Allah. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them. This verse is talking about those who say Allah is 3 persons in one Godhead one out of Three as you read in 1st John 5:7 said المائدة - الآية 116 وإِذْ قَالَ اللَّهُ يَا عِيسَى ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ أَأَنتَ قُلْتَ لِلنَّاسِ اتَّخِذُونِي وَأُمِّيَ إِلَٰهَيْنِ مِن دُونِ اللَّهِ ۖ قَالَ سُبْحَانَكَ مَا يَكُونُ لِي أَنْ أَقُولَ مَا لَيْسَ لِي بِحَقٍّ ۚ إِن كُنتُ قُلْتُهُ فَقَدْ عَلِمْتَهُ ۚ تَعْلَمُ مَا فِي نَفْسِي وَلَا أَعْلَمُ مَا فِي نَفْسِكَ ۚ إِنَّكَ أَنتَ عَلَّامُ الْغُيُوبِ Quran (5:116) And when Allah saith: O Jesus, son of Mary! Did you say unto mankind: Take me and my mother for two gods beside Allah? he saith: Be glorified! It was not mine to utter that to which I had no right. If I used to say it, then you would have known it. You know what is in my mind, and I know not what is in Thy Mind. Lo! Indeed, it is only You who is Knower of the unseen. This verse speaks about the Collyridianism (or Kollyridianism) was a Early Christian movement in Arabia whose adherents apparently worshipped the Virgin Mary, mother of Jesus as divine with God and also the Catholics who venerate Glorify Virgin Mary to the point of worshiping her based on the evidence of the prayer of the Virgin, in Greek Theotokos the Mother of God, which is present among them. Catholics believe that the Father and the Son have two different natures and two different wills, and that the Holy Spirit proceed from the Father and the Son, and that the Virgin Mary does not need Christ to save her from sin because she is the Mother of God.

[@Bean-qt4dy]

@@1541965 This entire post explains a lot for me as a Christian.

[@1541965]

@@Bean-qt4dy I hope it is useful to you and I pray to God Allah the One and the Only to guide you to Islam and to worship the One True God Allah, the Creator.

[@kenny0907]

Can someone help with the name of the Christian sect brother imran mentioned early on in the video who worshipped Mary.

[@riyaadranderee1072]

Guess u walked past them ? The best ahmedy in the world lol

[@Mivka_]

The reason why he is insisting on the translation being absolutly correct is because he has an argument that is dependent on that specific translation. This actually proves that Allah is All knowing. The verse the man is refering to was revealed in such a way that it leaves room for all versions of their trinity. It applies to any types of trinity. And confirm them ALL as being false. Alhamdulillah!

[@Wishfull1]

For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus that sounds like a messenger to me😂

[@peterhwang352]

Moses was the first mediator who offered his life for the salvation of Israel. Exodus 32. But as a mere man he was unable to lift Israel up to God in its entirety. Jesus Christ is the perfect mediator, the promised one who was a prophet like unto Moses, yet so much more. Deuteronomy 18, Acts 3

[@charliecharles-es3us]

@@peterhwang352 ??

[@jumpingjack5651]

@@peterhwang352 You say Jesus was a Prophet like Moses? Was Jesus married? Moses was married. Was Jesus a warrior like Moses? Moses had a normal birth did Jesus have a normal birth. Moses was raised by someone unrelated to him. Was this the case with Jesus? Moses dead and buried. Is that the case with Jesus. Moses brought a new law. Was that the case with Jesus?

[@Toronado2]

​ @peterhwang352 Do you mean like : For GOD so Loved the World that He killed his ONLY Son? Is that what you mean?

[@fananchebly1550]

Also Hindu believe in 3 forms of God in one: The three forms of God that make up the Hindu trimurti are Brahma the creator, Vishnu the preserver and Shiva the destroyer. It is not only Christians, but it is little known to people about other religions. Subhan Allah the most wise, praise be to God we are blessed with islam. 💚

[@yarmud]

is 3 capital 3 in trinity?

[@marinolopez4218]

😂😂😂😂😂😂 good one

[@Nadeem146]

Brilliant

[@shahzadrasool7113]

AyaYa YaYa!! 29:05 - 37:20 | Br. Imran has been 'Kosher Butcher' of Trinity!! 😅

[@Nasim.87-t8h]

Top 100 most influential human beings in history ranked by Michael H.Hart, Professor at the University of Arizona: Muhammad number 1,Isaac Newton 2nd,and Jesus 3rd. 🐅

[@giljesusseraspe9225]

I suggest to the brothers to bring Arabic bibles with them so they can see it for themselves and easily understand that Allah is the very same (semitic) word for God.

[@noreenismail3832]

Qur’an Surah Al-Ikhlas: verse 1-4 112:1 Say, "He is Allah, [who is] One, 112:2 Allah, the Eternal Refuge. 112:3 He neither begets nor is born, 112:4 Nor is there to Him any equivalent."

[@ghostfacesam]

Is that Chris Eubank?

[@JasenkoOmerovic]

King abbas King doctor ♥️

[@Toronado2]

Brothers Salam You have to point out to this man that the term "YOU" is Singular AND Plural in English. So why can't Us in the Semitic Language also be Plural AND Singular?

[@umairakhtar-q4b]

God alone is one without partners and associates. He is independent and everything depends on Him. He has no beginning and no end. He is free of deficiencies, imperfections and shortcomings. He gives life and He causes death. To Him belongs whatever is there in the heavens and the Earth. He does not beget nor does He be begotten. He does not need any son to carry on His legacy because He is all living.

[@fuuf7092]

ooooofffff this one was good. But will he wake up...

[@harixav]

This is what happens when you believe in absurdity for too long. It really chips away at your ability to think and argue in a logical way.

[@Z3v_vv]

So he’s basically doing what the church fathers do to justify their paganism. Interpreting their ideas into the text. Like come on.

[@Bean-qt4dy]

Those who follow Jesus Christ are naturally called Christians. That makes sense to me because Jesus is the greatest Rabbi.

[@Hydrogen9999]

Is literally says "thalatha" which literally three, that is literally it

[@WaleedKhan-ou3ii]

That's another verse dude 😂 The verse the Paulian guy is quoting is: "And when God will say to Isa, son of Mary, "Did you say to the people, 'Take me and my mother as gods besides God?'" Isa will say, "You are Exalted, it was not for me to say what I had no right to say. If I had said it, You would have known it. You know what is in me and I do not know what is in you. For indeed, You are the Knower of the unseen."

[@Hydrogen9999]

@WaleedKhan-ou3ii SadaqAllahu 'Atheem (Allah the Most Great says/said the truth). And no I quoted the same verse he quoted, and what you quoted is another of what he's quoting to in order to somehow connect the two

[@nurudeensalau7994]

The guy is well read, but insincere at same time. He just need to read the Qur'an

[@RafikKhan-ol4zk]

This Christian guy got destroyed These two Muslims also destroyed Arul and Bob

[@kingtao3468]

More often than not, I feel dogmatic Trinitarian Christians on a mission only really "hear" rather than "listen" ... I don't think you could talk with one who is ACTUALLY prepare to LISTEN who could continue holding on (without fear) to the idea of One in Three and Three in One!

[@aburaasmedia3682]

this looks video was taken summer time

[@ShoaibAhmedNZ]

Who made him a mufassir?

[@idrisanimagac.4086]

No one and Akhi he understand the verse he’s just playing with it like they do with the New Testament

[@suhilalremagah5525]

This guy has problems with math 😂😂

[@user-rn2ks9ch9h]

Tradition precedes the Holy Scriptures! It is the Church that created the Bible, collecting and selecting a set of texts written within its organized community. Don’t you see the absurdity of using biblical texts to argue that Catholic dogma is wrong?

[@ft7397]

25:40 so why your lord the god is ONE

[@marcReef-z4b]

The sad thing us. You all think your right. Islam, Christianity. For so long now , so many have died and suffered because if this ignorant battle. I am raised Christian. Nowadays i just pray to God , the father. I do not need any man to tell me who or what i should pray. Nor should anyone else. Unlike many, i do not commit atrocities in Gods name. For that is wicked. My relationship with God , my prayers. This is between me and the father. The sooner you truely live in n Gods word . The sooner you will have peace.

[@JasenkoOmerovic]

Don't say 3 on your death bed Christian

[@suhilalremagah5525]

This guy will give me heart attack 😡

[@Bean-qt4dy]

Mary is not part of the so called "trinity"

[@abdulgaffoorsungay5415]

The quran won't define who 1/3 and 2/3 is because the quran is eternal. If it specified who the other 2 of the "trinity" is it would be for a specific group of people. And not be eternal for anyone past and future whi wants to add or change who the "3" of the trinity are.

[@true_seeked]

UK version of god Ilogic

[@moecari795]

Going off track. It’s not the point. Three or trinity, doesn’t matter. Point of the verse meaning not to associate partners with Allah swt

[@garrickgriffith6402]

To be honest, you are practicing polytheism [christian].

[@Bean-qt4dy]

These Muslims are so argumentative. First off why the debate in the first place? The Christian didn't challenge you to a standoff. For so.e reason arguments always pursue people with different religious beliefs. No politics or religious talk at work people On the Bible part the scriptures being read don't contradict Jesus as God or the Son.

[@umairakhtar-q4b]

When I use my faculty of reasoning and logic to understand the various aspects of my day to day life then why should I stop using the same faculty to understand my Bible. If I am honest, I should be consistent.

[@Toronado2]

I don't know about you but my Bible says that Jesus claimed He was Not God.

[@Nadeem146]

I think you've used the wrong description, you meant discussion not argumentative

[@myuzairy7324]

_First off why the debate in the first place?_ Why does every exchange looks like a debate for you? Is every discussion on difference in theology, especially between Islam and Christianity, a debate to you?

[@1541965]

Allah spoke in the Holy Quran about the three different concept and versions of the trinity that you have in Christianity. المائدة - الآية 72 لَقَدْ كَفَرَ الَّذِينَ قَالُوا إِنَّ اللَّهَ هُوَ الْمَسِيحُ ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ ۖ وَقَالَ الْمَسِيحُ يَا بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ اعْبُدُوا اللَّهَ رَبِّي وَرَبَّكُمْ ۖ إِنَّهُ مَن يُشْرِكْ بِاللَّهِ فَقَدْ حَرَّمَ اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ الْجَنَّةَ وَمَأْوَاهُ النَّارُ ۖ وَمَا لِلظَّالِمِينَ مِنْ أَنصَارٍ Quran (5:72) They do blaspheme who say: "Allah is Christ the son of Mary." But said Christ: "O Children of Israel! worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Whoever joins other gods with Allah,- Allah will forbid him the garden, and the Fire will be his abode. There will for the wrong-doers be no one to help. This verse is talking about the Orthodox who believe that the father and the son has one nature and one will and the Holy Spirit proceed from the father alone. المائدة - الآية 73 لَّقَدْ كَفَرَ الَّذِينَ قَالُوا إِنَّ اللَّهَ ثَالِثُ ثَلَاثَةٍ ۘ وَمَا مِنْ إِلَٰهٍ إِلَّا إِلَٰهٌ وَاحِدٌ ۚ وَإِن لَّمْ يَنتَهُوا عَمَّا يَقُولُونَ لَيَمَسَّنَّ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا مِنْهُمْ عَذَابٌ أَلِيمٌ Quran (5:73) They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity: for there is no god except One Allah. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them. This verse is talking about those who say Allah is 3 persons in one Godhead one out of Three as you read in 1st John 5:7 said المائدة - الآية 116 وإِذْ قَالَ اللَّهُ يَا عِيسَى ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ أَأَنتَ قُلْتَ لِلنَّاسِ اتَّخِذُونِي وَأُمِّيَ إِلَٰهَيْنِ مِن دُونِ اللَّهِ ۖ قَالَ سُبْحَانَكَ مَا يَكُونُ لِي أَنْ أَقُولَ مَا لَيْسَ لِي بِحَقٍّ ۚ إِن كُنتُ قُلْتُهُ فَقَدْ عَلِمْتَهُ ۚ تَعْلَمُ مَا فِي نَفْسِي وَلَا أَعْلَمُ مَا فِي نَفْسِكَ ۚ إِنَّكَ أَنتَ عَلَّامُ الْغُيُوبِ Quran (5:116) And when Allah saith: O Jesus, son of Mary! Did you say unto mankind: Take me and my mother for two gods beside Allah? he saith: Be glorified! It was not mine to utter that to which I had no right. If I used to say it, then you would have known it. You know what is in my mind, and I know not what is in Thy Mind. Lo! Indeed, it is only You who is Knower of the unseen. This verse speaks about the Collyridianism (or Kollyridianism) was a Early Christian movement in Arabia whose adherents apparently worshipped the Virgin Mary, mother of Jesus as divine with God and also the Catholics who venerate Glorify Virgin Mary to the point of worshiping her based on the evidence of the prayer of the Virgin, in Greek Theotokos the Mother of God, which is present among them. Catholics believe that the Father and the Son have two different natures and two different wills, and that the Holy Spirit proceed from the Father and the Son, and that the Virgin Mary does not need Christ to save her from sin because she is the Mother of God.

[@Haasgax]

This is how paganism is survive.

[@muhammedmunawar8583]

Did mr lover lover uncle Sam come to the park this week???

[@Abdur-rahman-alhamdulillah]

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[@JasenkoOmerovic]

Adam pbuh worshipped Allah so simple Christian

[@peterhwang352]

Adam walked and talked with God in the garden, not God in the fullness of his majesty, but God in a human like form, the Son of God, limited for his sake. Genesis 2, Genesis 3

[@JasenkoOmerovic]

I'm batman 😎

[@Bean-qt4dy]

After Jesus dies he comes back and gives the followers the Holy Spirit.

[@rochimlazio1120]

Thanks shomad

[@mohass691]

Stop this 3 in 1 nonsense god is not a shampoo

[@bradsalubby]

Let us - the royal we. Plural of respect. Western Christians do not understand how eastern languages work. Why has no Christian Arab brought this up about the. Quran as Allah s.w.t uses us all over the Qur'an

[@iandavids9815]

So how did Allah not know who is in the trinity

[@lahori-b2y]

Some Christians worship Mary - though they dont consider her to be part of the trinity. You can even verify this though history and even today, some Christian pray to Mary. The same as some Christian pray to some saints...

[@Toronado2]

If you believe that Jesus is GOD then you have to believe that Mary was also God according to the Bible.

[@myuzairy7324]

The language used in the Quran is such that you can apply it to everyone who worships a three-in-one deity. Like the Hindu trimurthi. Like the Egyptian trinity. Like the Christian trinity.

[@thealien_ali3382]

Exactly some Christian's call her the mother of god​@@lahori-b2y

[@knowledge-n-Wisdom]

You need to do mental gymnastics to make sense of any religion other than islam

[@Bean-qt4dy]

I worship and praise the Son of man

[@fuuf102]

Who ezekiel?

[@fuuf102]

He is called that more than Jesus is

[@Bean-qt4dy]

@@fuuf102 No he actually isn’t. Anyone who reads what I typed can see the difference. Much respect to Prophet Ezekiel (Awesome Name ) but clearly “the Son of Man” is Jesus

[@fuuf102]

Who follows Jesus? Muslims or Paul followers? 👉 Jesus: The only true God is The Father! (john 17.3) 🤦 The Church: No! You're also a true god! 👉 Jesus: By myself I can do nothing! (john 5.30) 🤦 The Church: No! You can do everything! 👉 Jesus: The Lord our God is ONE! (mark 12.29) 🤦 The Church: No! The lord our god is three in one! 👉 Jesus: If you want eternal life then keep The Commandments! (Matt 19.17) 🤦 The Church: No! If you want eternal life then believe that Jesus died for your sins! 👉 Jesus: I cried and prayed to God PBTH to save me from the crucifixion and God heard my prayers! (Matt 26.36) 🤦 The Church: No! God didn't save him so we can be saved by his bl0u1d! 👉 Jesus: My Father is greater than I, my Father is greater than all! (John 14.28) 🤦 The Church: No! The Father is not greater than you, you're both co-equal! 👉 Jesus: I was sent ONLY to the lost sheep of Israel, not the g3.n.tiles! (Matt 15.23, 10.5) 🤦 The Church: No! You were sent to the entire world! 👉 Jesus : sir. Kmcise male children as God Commanded! (Luke 2.21) 🤦 The Church: No! Sir. Kumci.sion is unnecessary and will profit us nothing. This is what Paul said, the one you came to in a dream!..

[@fuuf102]

GROSS: So Jesus saw himself as the messiah. What else did that mean in its time? EHRMAN: Well, a lot of Christians today have a wrong idea about what the messiah was supposed to be. The word messiah is a Hebrew word that literally means the anointed one. This was used in reference to the kings of Israel. The ancient kings of Israel, when they became king during the coronation ceremony, would have oil poured on their head as a sign of divine favor. And so the king of Israel was called God's anointed one, the messiah. There came a point at which there was no longer a king ruling Israel, and some Jewish thinkers began to maintain that there would be a future king of Israel, a future anointed one, and they called that one the messiah. And so the messiah for most Jews simply referred to the future king of Israel. And so when Jesus told his disciples that he himself was the messiah, he was saying that in the future, when God establishes the kingdom once more, I myself will be the king of that kingdom. And so it's not that the messiah was supposed to be God. The messiah was not supposed to be God. The messiah was a human being So did Jesus' earliest followers consider him to be God? EHRMAN: Well, what I argue in the book is that during his lifetime, Jesus himself didn't call himself God and didn't consider himself God and that none of his disciples had any inkling at all that he was God. The way it works is that you do find Jesus calling himself God in the Gospel of John, our last Gospel. Jesus says things like: Before Abraham was, I am, and I and the father are one, and if you've seen me, you've see the father. These are all statements that you find only in the Gospel of John, and that's striking because we have earlier Gospels, and we have the writings of Paul, and in none of them is there any indication that Jesus said such things about him. I think it's completely implausible that Matthew, Mark and Luke would not mention that Jesus called himself God if that's what he was declaring about himself. That would be a rather important point to make. So this is not an unusual view among scholars. It's simply the view that the Gospel of John is providing a theological understand of Jesus that is not what was historically accurate. GROSS: Jesus was referred to as the king of the Jews. Did he call himself that, and what did that mean it is time? Do we know? Can we have any idea what that meant in its time? EHRMAN: Yeah, we do know, and actually to be a king of the Jews simply meant literally, being the king over Israel. It is a very difficult question to get to, what Jesus taught about himself because of the nature of our gospels, but one thing is relatively certain, that that the reason the Romans crucified Jesus was precisely because he was calling himself the king of Israel. Now, Jesus obviously was not the king. So what might he have meant by it? Well, what scholars have long thought is that Jesus was talking about not being put on the throne by means of some kind of political show of power, but that Jesus thought the world as he knew it was coming to an end and God was going to bring in a kingdom, a new kingdom in which there would be no more injustice or oppression or poverty or suffering of any kind. And in this kingdom, Jesus appears to have thought that he himself would be the future king. And so Jesus meant this not in the regular political sense but in a kind of apocalyptic sense, that at the end of the age, this is what was going to happen: he was going to be installed as king.

[@adnanmahmood8398]

so... moses and jesus believe in the trinity? WHY CHRISTIANS, WHY!!!

[@nargis751]

Masha Allah dr Imran well said and I think it’s the first time I’ve heard this approach it was brilliant This guy is so annoying reminds me of the guy in predator the Arnie movie 😅

[@michaelt.robertson]

This Christian right here always double-talks every time on videos. Smh...

[@realislam202]

Yes, in islam you can disagree with classical scholars if you have strong evidence that their translation was not correct by some scholars today time but that is not acceptable by Abbas and other because they believing blindly following classical scholars, and all discussions i have watched by dwa wise guys they never accepted something which contradicted by classical Islamic scholars but yes in islam its perfectly Ok to contradict classical scholars thats why we have many sects heaving difference of opinion that is i think blessing of God and that is how knowledge increase

[@coaching.worked]

However, there is a Hadith of the Prophet pbuh said At-Tirmidhi (2167) narrated from Ibn ‘Umar (may Allah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “Allah will not cause my ummah to agree on falsehood; the hand of Allah is with the Jamaa‘ah (the main body of the Muslims).” Classed as Hasan by al-Albaani. The meaning of this hadith is that Allah has protected the scholars of the ummah of Muhammad (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) from unanimously agreeing upon something false. This protection is only for all the scholars of the ummah during any given period. As for the agreement of some of them or most of them on something, that is not protected from error. Similarly, if the common folk are agreed on some matter, that does not indicate that it is true, because what matters here is the scholars, not the common folk or the ignorant.

[@arisamone]

Brothers the two of you are trying to control the discussion. You are constantly speaking over each other. And then Abbas brought another speaker into the discussion. Omg just take it easy Abbas... You don't need to prove a point. You're speaking to an insincere guy, there's no need to get so worked up.

[@WaleedKhan-ou3ii]

You never saw a debate before? These are some of the calmest debators ever.

[@arisamone]

@ if you call this debate, maybe you’re the one who should look into what debates look like

[@moerocco775]

Brother/sister, don't forget that these guys do this all day, not to mention they've been doing it for years. They are human beings who get fed up sometimes and tired of the games and tactics. Its easy to pick and criticise from the couch (I know as I've done it before) because we tend to look at videos in a vacuum. Otherwise when you look at the bigger picture and take into account the realities of doing and living dawah, then you might be a bit more charitable and more appreciative of what the brother(s) do and have done for years and years.

[@moerocco775]

And debate comes in different forms. This might not be formal, arranged and moderated but debate is happening here in some form.

[@peterhwang352]

Christianity is the true monotheism, worshipping the one God, the God of Israel, who has revealed himself as Father, Spirit, Son. Allah is the god of a different nation, which Moses warned his people not to follow. Deuteronomy 6.

[@Faithel62]

Incorrect.

[@mightymasochist]

oh the irony... Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one, but you don´t believe that. you believe god is 3 in 1, which is not at all what Moses preached. Also in that same passage you are commanded to follow and keep the commandments, yet you have abandoned them all. you bring a passage you don´t even follow yourself. also funny how you say Allah is God of different nation, yet if you were to ask a jew, they would say Allah is the same God jews worship. it is only christians who say Allah is not the God mentioned in the old testament, but if you actually read it, it is obvious that God of old testament is Allah. take of the trinitarian lense. there is no trinity in the old testament, and even in the new testament, the concept of trinity is not mentioned. even Jesus didn´t preach trinity, but unitarian understanding of God.

[@WaleedKhan-ou3ii]

lol😂

[@WaleedKhan-ou3ii]

If the only true God is the God of Israel then why did Paul abrogate the law given to Israel through Moses?

[@nurudeensalau7994]

Yeah, whatever