Must-toonekurg~ DANGER! Not suitable for sensitive persons~6:16 pm 2017/06/01

[@liznm-natur-channel]

Why do birds kill their chicks? www.looduskalender.ee/forum/viewtopic.php?p=516905#p516905 summary of the season: www.looduskalender.ee/n/en/node/1707

[@nayshaunjohnson4074]

liznm. That is not it's. Chicks is like a syrager

[@Jaibheemmusalmaan]

u should have focking climbed the tree and saved that bird baby

[@letisiarodriguez2910]

liznm because she knows by instict that the baby Will no survive, and she ended up killing him.

[@emmanuelenriquez8947]

biraj dai LOL

[@cocobeyer5682]

And no one talks about how those trees are swaying like crazy

[@bensmith2823]

Facts my dude

[@concorrales2499]

I cant believe they do this to their own chick. Why do we even trust this birds to deliver human babies.

[@yogaflame4128]

Con Corrales 😭😭😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@SilverLoves]

Con Corrales first comment to make me laugh 😂😂😂

[@enwayfarm6496]

hahaha

[@muffiecat777]

Con Corrales ??????

[@robin2012ism]

You win, Sir! 🙌

[@hookman1981]

seems like she tries to get rid of a physically weak or sick child. The baby is really much smaller than other ones

[@judywright8455]

It was the last to be born. It was thriving until the shaking started and feeding stopped. You see the baby is healthy. I think Mom didn't want four babies to raise. I watched all this go down. This is the black stork for you.

[@h0rcrux774]

Well its a stork. Its what they usually do. "Kronism and dropping is normal in the stork's nest."

[@kingston769]

i tihnk moms just wanted to have a little bit of fun

[@tennesseepatriot1950]

TheEighthHorcrux I don't know how a pregnant woman and the stork bringing a baby started, the wrong bird. I'd rather be in an Eagle's claws as be near a stork!! Cruel

[@himhim3344]

Sometimes life comes down to chance and luck. You don't wanna be the last egg laid. The cards are stacked againt the last egg before it even hatches.

[@syco579]

For those of you wondering why the mother is keeping it in the nest instead of dropping it out of the nest is probably because she plans on feeding the dead chick to the other chicks

[@LenkaSaratoga]

Wow. Kinda disturbing.

[@mikemusic6318]

Most birds produce three or four eggs. The first two chicks that hatch have the best chance of survival. That is because the first two to hatch get food first. This gives them a substantial advantage over other chicks hatched even the same day. They start growing immediately and are bigger and stronger than other the other chicks that hatch even the same day. The parents know that they can only feed two chicks to maturity. By the time the chicks are ready to leave the nest, they are 90 per cent grown. The parents are exhausted and starving. Sometimes the parents will kill the weakest chicks, and sometimes the older, stronger chicks will kill the weaker chicks. That way only to two strongest will survive. If the parents tried to feed all the chicks to maturity, all the chicks would die, and probably the parents would die of starvation.

[@lindajones7219]

GOOG LORD MIKE WE ARE ALL SO STUPID THAT NONE OF US KNEW THAT THE FIRST CHICK TO HATCH GETS FED FIRST NATURE IS AS IT IS BUT PEOPLE DO KNOW THAT FIRST COME FIRST SERVED WERE NOT AS STUID AS YOU LIKE TO MAKE OUT

[@robin2012ism]

Linda Jones madam, please get help for your anger issues.

[@helenaville5939]

Yes, Linda sounds like she uses KZbin as a punch bag to rid herself of a lot of deep rooted anger. Linda, please seek professional help and stop unleashing your pent up stress on innocent people online. We all wish you well on your journey of healing.

[@MickyTubbs1985]

Your post succinctly state the"Facts of Life"in Nature.You make very clear that which is paramount-survival of the species.

[@breannemuhammad8637]

They can actually successfully feed and bring to maturity 3 and sometimes 4 chicks. It just depends on if both parents are around and feeding the chicks and if they have a good enough food source where they are. It's not always only the first 2 chicks that survive and fledge.

[@fnulnu6507]

The other 3 are like wtf, am i next?

[@VampTwinkie]

i got tears

[@chickchick0648]

This is because she already has enough chicks to feed, so she is getting rid of the weakest chick, so that the others have a better chance.

[@liznm-natur-channel]

thank you for your comment

[@Ahch_not_op_of_Judah]

ChickChick064 where’s a great horn owl when you need one

[@mikemusic6318]

Regarding the comments about killing quicker, some of the parents just throw the chick out of the nest. It is a long way down, but the chick dies quick.

[@tondalayakapoofnick2681]

Most of them keep it for food.

[@ArclinusCastoral]

Regardless of the chick dying at all once ejected from the nest, it's no longer the parents' problem and they do not contain the capacity for a mercy such a quick death. Some scavenger will find the chick in whatever state it's in. Regardless, it is consigned to death and, like some have mentioned, perhaps before it was even laid as an egg depending on which egg it was.

[@valariesrisingsun7937]

The mother must know something isn't quite right with that one, and it could be sick or weak and she will completely stop feeding it and will get rid of it. Bird's are very set in their ways and you have to be strong in nature to make it.

[@BrayanA]

The chick is not sick, it is just the smallest one. Unfortunately birds have no chance to know if the egg will hatch. The lay more eggs just in case. If all of them hatch and the parent see that there is no food for all of them, the smallest (in 99% the last to hatch) would be sacrificed in order to improve the chance of the others.

[@janemillerick9614]

she also made (a short) attempt on the one who's just older (than the now nearly dead one.) I've also noticed that this year her own health is off. (sneezing never really went away; I remember that she was doing that quite a lot when she was hesitant to mate.) they really aren't as 'harsh' as ..well, some species of white storks.

[@liznm-natur-channel]

I fear, if furthermore not enough food, even the other chick must die. Change and feeding was every 5 hours. That is not enough! The chicks are much too small in relation to the chicks in 2015 and 2016. The spring was dry, so the situation is not good for the animals. Not just for the storks.

[@janemillerick9614]

I thought that it's pretty much a sure thing sadly. you're absolutely right about the feedings. I can remember when the parents would have way more fish for them. just a very bad year.. just a sad but very real part of nature and I do appreciate that you post what actually does occur. it amazes me anyone gets upset! I've seen far uglier things up and .. I just don't watch. simple!

[@mygirlcheech85]

Jane Millerick people get upset because they're human!! Empathy ya know. It's part of what humans do. To see anything suffering sux!!! If they said nothing they'd be deemed heartless. Have a good day

[@FastNCurious88]

The way it’s siblings are trying so hard to protect him.... pecking angrily at Mom, huddling, throwing their bodies over him. That made me bawl 😭

[@Shadowwarrior2288]

😭😭😭😭 omg

[@himhim3344]

Lol but then they started pecking at him towards the end

[@jasonaltham7013]

Then the other ones eat him.

[@syana8882]

She's like "This is too many mouths to feed and ya'll are workin me to death! Someone's got to go!"

[@Joseph-km9io]

Syana lmao

[@zacharycat]

The message of this video is that in life you don't always need to be the biggest and strongest, just make damn sure you aren't the smallest and weakest.

[@xylsky1300]

Woke people triggered

[@9798angel]

Also looks like she is killing it not just trying to throw it out, she pulls it back in as well

[@judywright8455]

Now I see how harsh this species is. The baby was thriving in an earlier feeding today by Karl. And it has been fine in spite of many prior shakings by Katie. Now the other babies are traumatized seeing this constant treatment of the baby and even covering the baby with their bodies. Little baby, I wish someone would rescue you.

[@DoubleDogDare54]

Judy, in some avian species it is the siblings that attack and kill the weakling nest mates. In others where hatching is staggered instead of simultaneous, the older chicks devour the younger chicks - they are a food source for the first chicks that hatch out. Chances are this smaller chick would have died anyway. There is some reason for it being a runt and that reason is never good for them. I doubt the other storklets were "traumatized" by what their old lady did to the runt. You are anthropomorphizing the incident. They probably didn't even notice what was going on or that their nest mate was gone. They aren't that intelligent.

[@judywright8455]

It wasn't sick nor a runt. Looked very healthy. Just the youngest born. I think the Mom didn't want to feed four chicks. Too many for that nest and too much pressure for food. Maybe she never raised four chicks yet. So she isolated it for starvation and the Dad got in on the action once the chick became so weak. Now I know....This is the beautiful black stork. The other three chicks fledged and returned to the nest many times. All in all it was a successful nest. God bless the last little chicks in all the species.

[@DoubleDogDare54]

This pair did the same thing last year, same circumstances. One chick was definitely smaller than the rest and it got the axe, courtesy of dad that time. The eggs all hatched out at pretty much the same time so, yes, this chick and the 2016 chick this pair killed were runts. With the amount of fish, eels, frogs and other food this pair were hauling to the nest, and the size of the crops on the chicks that lived, I don't see a sign that food was an issue. But the failure of a chick to thrive and grow at a normal rate prompted mom this year and dad last year to cull the weakling and not bother trying to raise it.

[@shinotakami1022]

DoubleDogDare54 You are right i agree with you

[@IchimatsuTrashneko]

Actually the siblings were biting and nipping at him when it first started getting killed but never the less it was quite sad

[@endjinn3178]

Its the trees swaying in the wind that freaks me out the most

[@Omnomftw]

I'm not sure if this species eats their dead chicks, but it could be a reason it left the corpse in the nest.

[@rafevelly7295]

survival of the fittest this is nature at it's best. if this brood was from a kestrel family the parents stays to feed their tiny chick even when the adults had left the nest

[@pareekhan5264]

Cruel mother ,i can't imagine how a mother could be so much cruel to her own kids 😢

[@muffiecat777]

Faree Khan They are NOT her “kids”. They are her young.

[@JDarkAngeI]

Idk if you noticed, pal, but animals don't have morals like we humans do. They do anything to improve their survival

[@BrayanA]

And what you suggest her to do? Animals are not stupid. Sometimes difficult decisions have to be made - to risk loosing all of her kids or to sacrifice the smallest chick. Unfortunately birds have no chance to know if the egg will hatch. The lay more eggs just in case and hope that at least one will be OK. If all of them hatch and the parent see that there is no food for all of them, the smallest (in 99% the last to hatch) would be sacrificed in order to improve the chance of the others. That is not stupid strategy. That is a smart survival strategy. It may look cruel by our human standards, but nature does not care about feelings.

[@himhim3344]

She almost killed the wrong chick but then went back to the one she was beating at first

[@KURU_ROUGAROU]

I might be late to the vid but they do that because the chick is too weak or there are too many for him or her to care for its not cruel for birds but for humans I do not recomend

[@liznm-natur-channel]

you're welcome! A very good comment!

[@sultanalmugheri3901]

Ava P I think your right, this is a way for them to keep the stronger chicks than to have weaker ones and at the end it will die because it cannot cope up in competence of eating with quicker and stronger chicks so the mother kills it fast, its a sad truth.

[@kathrynhutchens5066]

It may be that the runt is eating more than its share of the food. It would be unrealistic but the parent is not equipped to set the little gobbler out of the reach of the food after it has eaten some & let the others have a chance to eat. # 3 can finally get to eat.

[@Ahch_not_op_of_Judah]

People hate GHOs but they don’t do this to their chicks!So basically GHO’s are doing other bird species a favor especially if a mother haves too many chicks

[@rojome3831]

"One of us here is not like the others. One of us here is not the same..."

[@PhilippAurand]

it"s like its siblings were trying to shelter it in the beginning

[@ruthlesshoax]

Aww poor baby. It's probably screaming "MOM MOM!! OW YOUR HURTING ME! MOM!" I can just hear it yelling that :'(

[@nanda1390]

He was very weak and didn't have much left to survive so the mother decided to end it's struggles..... but wztch as the 3 Other birds trying to protdct the Weak bird

[@saintsundere]

It looks like two of the healthy chicks are shielding the third healthy chick from witnessing the killing, possibly because the third is traumatized by the event @ 5:45

[@mirandapanda5439]

Brutalball [ + ] lmao.. stop projecting human emotions on these birds.

[@tennesseepatriot1950]

miranda powers You leave him alone, he has an opinion, that is his right!

[@cosmicsans3275]

He is like, “ I don’t want to see this!”

[@lucecita007]

They do not think like we do maybe just dogs or cats

[@Omnomftw]

It seems windy from all the tree movement, therefore they're probably huddling for warmth. The chick was weak or ill and feeding it was a waste, eliminating it will allow it's siblings to continue to thrive. It's harsh but their death contributed to something in the end.

[@muthat9401]

In the previous video (5/31), he finally snapped at the small chicks who didn't eat the fish that their parents brought in to feed them......

[@مجیدمحمدی-ذ8ن]

من که آخرش نفهمیدم ؛ رفتارش با اون یه جوجه چرا اونجوری بود ؟

[@ejones9924]

It's nature at it's best

[@NamNguyen-xt4yk]

looks like she really enjoy the killing, took her time, perfected the neck grab then swing technique 10/10

[@7bimbim]

Her brothers has been trying to protect her

[@ericword2962]

I wonder if the siblings are going to be totally well behaved after this.

[@lucyweidenboerner1198]

Torture? Just eat it already.

[@Mike-ky9jz]

I guess the sad part is simply the mindlessness of the bird itself...yeah, I know to many mouths to feed...but the tossing back and forth, constantly torturing it....i guess that's how they kill their babies.

[@janajamer734]

WOW 😲, getting big gusts of wind causing tHa nest to sway back and forth! It seems to me that if tHa parents would perform tHa brood reduction a week or two earlier, they'd be able to kill easier and wouldn't cause tHa selected storklet so much unnecessary torture!💔 If tHa Parent Storks would take a hint from Jackie and Shadow of BBV/L...( don't know if All Eagles or Birds of Prey practice this) They don't brood on tHa first egg tHa whole time, giving tHa following eggs a chance to be tHa same size as tHa oldest Eaglet when hatched)! AN INTERESTING CONCEPT NO DOUBT! Look at tHa frightened siblings hugging one another, thinking: "Don't pick me, I don't wanna play this game"!

[@Chronos127]

What kind of Heron? is that?

[@liznm-natur-channel]

It is a Black Stork!

[@mikejonsson7235]

Nothing wrong, the mum notice the chicken is weak so it tries to poke it strong but the chick is weak and will be dead in the end of day. It is not the mum who kill it.

[@dds5936]

To me watching this it’s sickening but I guess this is an animal

[@dougholman7982]

Reminds me of people!

[@rubyh.3838]

Animals are unique and have personalities. This is a overworked mom who was fed up i guess. Birds are usually caring mothers. Like people, theres always that crappy cruel mother.

[@rubyh.3838]

Mermbo Nermberferv praise Allah!

[@robin2012ism]

Looks to me like she studies the weakling carefully. She shakes it and tries to get it to react and stand up straight. But separating it from the others and putting it out of the nest is also keeping the healthy chick's safe if the weakling is sick. If it's too weak to get back to the warmth of the nest, it will die of cold. Much easier death than falling or predation. If all the chick's were healthy, strong & evenly matched, I doubt the mother would kill any of them just because of the number of chicks.

[@daniellebolstad717]

After watching the past week or more I think #3 was more of a threat to #1 and #2 She was eating more then everyone stealing or trying to steal fish right out of the others mouth! I understand #4 was much smaller then the others and wouldn’t catch up in time but If I were Kati( which I wouldn’t want to be since I couldn’t do any of the eliminations she does) I would have chosen #3.

[@LenkaSaratoga]

You sound kinda strange

[@daniellebolstad717]

Thank you ☺️ but I didn’t think I was saying anything? I wrote something via text and post but didn’t “Say Anything” I have written something. Maybe it’s those voices you’ve been hearing in your head? FYI maybe you should get that checked??

[@KettyGriffon467]

Pauvre petite cigogne 😢

[@Mearyeaurng]

Plan Parenthood

[@kilipaki87oritahiti]

Guess you don’t understand how an abortion works…

[@Gruovy]

300 peoples live actually on a "bubble"

[@timthomas325]

Look the baby’s were trying to protect it

[@susmantoslametkariti4231]

Situasi serba susah, lamar pekerjaan di perusahaan ga ada yang menerima, anak ada empat, ga ada duwit, ga ada makanan, empat anak terlalu banyak, sekaligus untuk mengurangi beban dan meningkatkan setamina maka dengan terpaksa makan anaknya sendiri.

[@lopez93189]

what happened to him

[@KingJKickz]

If it's strong enough to fight just let it be sheesh. Even the others tried to save it

[@randybobandy9828]

Lmao the other did no such thing. You are being ridiculous.

[@tmph1814]

I believe the mother just wants the smallest dead by the edge of the nest and will probably feed on it later ...I know it's cruel and disgusting but it nature's way.

[@xHarikxX]

It's my impression or the Brothers are trying to hide him from the mother?

[@randybobandy9828]

No they aren't. That's your mind picking up on things that aren't happening. Most of the time the siblings join in the pwcking and killing of their brother.

[@lildumplin9905]

Mommy Dearest

[@abebass37]

I did not see any attempt to throw it out of the nest, rather trying to exercise or revive it.

[@LenkaSaratoga]

I read above that often it’s eaten fed to the others

[@clovedking4516]

am I the only one who found this. ok.

[@PaulA-zp7hn]

Nope, me too. Its just nature.

[@captainmaddogmungus6219]

Blood Tail nah, I simply nature.

[@PaulA-zp7hn]

Walang Anoman We simply understand that these are the facts of life and this is how this species behaves. It is clearly easier to watch for some than others but you have to factor in your irrationality about the situation and how the situation affects you emotionally. Clearly you are being irrational as you have just labelled 4 people whom you know nothing about "heartless cunts". While I don't really care what you think, I do care that we have irrational people roaming the earth which is quite detrimental to the human race as a whole. Take a step back and look at the bigger picture here.

[@marcpolain5549]

Hope it wasn’t too pleasant for you guys, yeh it’s nature but some people are capable of sympathy/empathy so that’s what makes it tough to watch for some. Damn nature, you scary.

[@tennesseepatriot1950]

Walang Anoman you are so right. Something is wrong with a person that doesn't feel bad at seeing someone or something in pain.. That is nature, but come on!! I really do believe that some humans are born heartless, and lack empathy for any human, or animal. Serial killers are this way..

[@danmccarthy8822]

I wonder why she doesn’t just leave him to the side, she seems to keep moving him and beating up on him. I would think if she wanted to kill him she easily could.

[@alo1543]

The bird is sickly. She's trying to shake it up to liven it. If she just wanted to kill it she would have just tossed it over. It does and she keeps trying.

[@rebeccawagner506]

Right the next time you play with hair gel in the nest, your all out !!

[@daniellebolstad717]

Haha @Rebecca W Reminds me of “There’s Something About Mary” I wonder why her feathers are doing that??

[@nenga-ch]

この映像だけで飯が食える

[@СергейДерябин-о9у]

Birds...animal... perfect biofuel. If they use themselves so why we shouldn't?

[@мери-у9с]

А что случилось с 4 м птенцом? Почему его она постоянно таскает за голову?

[@РусланГалаев-з6о]

Не хочет лишний рот кормить, хорошо если на этом остановиться. ...

[@Mearyeaurng]

I meant Planned Parenthood.

[@churnyeechong2427]

I shall hand-rear those storklets that are targeted by their own parents in the nest, climb up the tree and physically pull them out of it myself....Then they will definitely survive under my care.

[@Tzortzis7]

It looks more like she seperates it from the others.. like is infected or something. Otherswise she would had throughn it down or something

[@victorserrano9771]

I was waiting for the big bird to throw it down

[@angelobox]

por que mata una de sus crías ?

[@ЛюдмилаБереснева-н2п]

Людииии,что она делает,скажите?Почему добивает птенца?

[@xiaomi8349]

Она Добивает Птенца Потомучто он Слабый он Заболел очень сильно а в Природе Выживает Сельнейший Она Переживает за Других своих Птенцов чтобы они не Заразились иначе все погибнут такая Природа жистокая а птенец Мучается но он попадёт в рай

[@aleksandrsavonenko6072]

Обязательно в рай!

[@janhenrik4170]

Why didnt she just throw it out??

[@dancousland4033]

Jan Henrik she's tryna end it quickly coz she knows it won't survive but it kinda difficult with that beak and throwing it out won't kill it straight away meaning it would suffer a predator

[@JT_70]

Dan Cousland maybe she feeds it to t Her other chicks. Yuk.

[@muffiecat777]

Jan Henrik She probably didn’t “think” of it!!!!😀😀😀

[@muffiecat777]

Dan Cousland it WOULD??? I would think that the FALL would kill it before a “predator” could???!!!

[@LenkaSaratoga]

Cause she will eat it

[@bicanoo_magic3452]

If that was a Kookaburra there it would snap that babies neck like a small twig in one second! Not drag it out for ten minutes...weird.

[@frank6250]

man that bird really sucks at killing chicks.

[@adrielireis2643]

Porque esse passaro maltrata tanto o próprio filhote? Que agonia

[@abebass464]

Don't be mistaken! Mother only tries to revive a sick child!

[@rontayan]

Wow the love was strong as they tried to protect their Sib.

[@dewbow134]

@@leahnicole155 yeah😞

[@TheJaker5]

It looks like it jacked the other up in the beginning

[@brizzx32]

I don't think there was anything wrong with that Chick just the others were beating it to the Food. I glad God doesn't do that to us.

[@alexsilver5156]

the know this baby is sick. and there is no hospital close by. so she decided to kill it. to stop suffering. very good job mon.

[@chendasom1156]

What is the mum doing

[@muffiecat777]

Chenda Som Having fun.

[@Mia-di8ge]

@@muffiecat777 Lmfao

[@josephdeguzman450]

Sometimes nature is really fckup

[@mrpopomeng7410]

put them on the steve wilkos show.

[@xamidulloniyozov8477]

что она делаеть нифига не понять

[@lori5455]

Brutal treatment of her own. The prolonged abuse is rough!! I mean just knock him over the edge already! Brings to mind the Bald Eagles in B.C. that recently raised a red tailed hawk as one of their own with three Eaglets already there. Brought home for dinner and something changed. Many posts - check it out. I would say storks are not on the top of the avian parenting list.

[@lori5455]

Hi Tybee......i know! I watch lots of Eagles and Owls nests and have never seen babes treated like that, wont be watching Storks anymore thats for sure!! What dumb dumb birds!

[@vatodiablo2355]

why have 4 if u can only look after 3...and if u can feed 3 u can feed 4

[@pomelomiller397]

ทำไมถึงต้องทำร้ายนกน้อยตัวนั้น น่าสงสาร

[@CatLover18881]

This is horrible to watch . I know this is not for sensitive people and yall saying that the baby was sick or something but just seeing a mother kill its own baby is so upsetting . I wish i could save all of them cute lil birds ;( Please make it stop.

[@liznm-natur-channel]

Hi Una I understand your feelings, but, it's a documentation. It's shown what happens at the nest. Not only beautiful things happens on the nests. They struggle day by day to survive. If they do not find enough food, they have to make decisions. (sorry my english.. I hope it is understandable)

[@l.hasenhausen8626]

Poor chicken! But the nature is cruel!

[@SomeoneCommenting]

Some species take that thing about _survival of the fittest_ very seriously, literally on their own hands.

[@verafranco6253]

Pobrezito porque hace eso

[@tesar554]

What my foult, mum?? I'm just little baby

[@22ivj04]

So sad ...

[@emranriaz3505]

Don't kill your baby, if your don't take care of her please give to me. I understand its govt. policy 3 babies only.

[@bonbon-on5bg]

Ko hieu no sao lai giet con cua minh

[@borischaplinsky8968]

спасите птенца, пожалуйста

[@t_rexdiaz6778]

Why she just dont throw it out of the nest??

[@xHarikxX]

Andrew Diaz because After the death She would use him to feed herself and the babies (Sorry for my english)

[@nahmean2462]

And then there was 3

[@nandoflores6902]

No teriyaki sauce jokes I am disappointed

[@lopez93189]

not someone saves this baby

[@charzpak7173]

We cant do anything to save it?

[@Whatismylifeuwu]

: why wild birds are some of the worst mothers never seems to dawn on me ......

[@liznm-natur-channel]

Just because you do not understand something, does not mean the animals are doing bad things. That's human thinking. Nature is nature. Humans wants,that the nature work the way he thinks. This can not go well.

[@tennesseepatriot1950]

liznm American eagles are good parents, don't kill their young. The siblings can hurt or kill one or the other, they are ruthless over food..I saw an eagle dad try to stop an older chick from killing a runt, several times. He even covered the runt over with nest grasses to hide it. The older one didn't forget, kept looking for it. It finally died, anyway. It wasn't lack of food, most chicks are killers.. Nearly all bird species's..

[@mariamarroquin2952]

😳😭😢😂😪😥Pájaro malo . malo. malo.No quiere asu bebé

[@EVNL576]

This is what happens when you’re a single parent and too many mouths to feed. What happens up on the tree stays up on the tree.