Heihachi was Broken beyond Belief in Tekken 3

[@OathOfRevenge]

Couple things to add: - Whiffing 4~3 stuns you and does 10 damage to yourself. They removed this starting from Tekken 4, but you can hold down after 4~3 on whiff to get the same stun! - Even with their pushback, ff2, d12 and df12 aren't safe against the whole cast - There's a secret version of ff3 that launches on normal hit, it's ffn3 😉 It does 2 less damage and you get a guaranteed d4 stomp - Doing the just frame uf34 on a blocking opponent makes the second hit unblockable (same for all the hunting hawk variations in the game) - Remember to set the training dummy to "Quick Roll" (either up or down), most of the combos you're doing at the end are not real

[@Zakillah]

Good list. I might add that I'm 99% certain that d+1 doesnt hit grounded on normal characters. Dont test ground hits on Jack. :D

[@mwkan772]

thanks a lot for the info bro

[@Kaiya134]

I played this game online for like 15 years and I never knew about ffn3. My mind is blown

[@anticharlie1]

​@@Kaiya134online? How?

[@k00ij]

​@Kaiya134 iirc the first tekken to be playable online was tekken 5 💁‍♂️

[@nebby9751]

It really speaks the utterly lawless badlands that Tekken used to be, that you could be as broken as T3 Heihachi and still not be top 3 in the roster 😂

[@Robert-nl3fd]

Everyone was broken in T3. True Ogre, Ogre, Kuma/Panda, Paul, Heihachi , Brian..Dr. B( in the right hands), Gon(in the right hands)..where ALL top Tier broken

[@CarelesssXeno]

Imagine Tekken 7 Heihachi had these moves 😭😭😭

[@sadetwizelve]

Wouldn't matter,mishimas are always o.p.

[@CarelesssXeno]

@@sadetwizelve that is not entirely true Tekken 6 speaks otherwise

[@sadetwizelve]

@xenobroly0062 there was never a tekken where mishimas were below A tier.

[@CarelesssXeno]

@@sadetwizelve you’re talking about tiers and I’m talking about moves two different topics. You can be a good character but have some moves that are really bad

[@ametozukumazu6073]

​@@sadetwizelveT6 Heihachi and Kazuya, T5/DR Jin, T7 S2-3 Heihachi. Maximum B tier. And, no, it would definitely matter. T3 - Tag era was insane.

[@JunKazamaFan]

Reina needs to get that pimp coat as an unlockable costume.

[@katherynlee2421]

That's why I keep winning against my cousins, brother and sisters, because he's broken as fuck. Lol

[@mwkan772]

haha

[@Usama77504]

Imagine if heiachi has 13 frame launcher in Tekken 7 😱😱

[@counthyuga1449]

He needed it

[@Steambull1]

Tekken 3 put Heihachi and Paul on another level of fun. Anyway, yeah, the damage of Tekken 3 is so complicated that it can be really hard to lab staple combos and figure out max damage options. You can do seemingly the same combo and get 4 different damage values, ranging A LOT. There are the "Clean hit" cases, but that's not all, distances can affect the damage in all kinds of ways.

[@crack4184]

Tekken 3 was so drunk at times

[@TheMeetymeet]

Heihachi with the coat was peak.

[@sebhoward6674]

I remember heihachi having the Paul death fist and hammer punch animations. But Paul’s death fist had a longer reach and quote me if I’m wrong but Paul’s version did more damage I think! I cannot believe how well and in depth you document the older games and expose how broken they were compared to TKN today!👍🤜🤛❤️

[@Leadblast]

You are correct in that Paul's deathfist did more damage but other than that the moves were identical.

[@Leadblast]

There are lots of things you got wrong. His d+1 does not hit grounded on normal characters. That works only on big characters. Gunjack is considered a big. His f,f+3 and f,f,N+3 are different. f,f+3 causes fallback stun on CH, f,f,N+3 is the same as regular Mishima f,f+3 (knockdown on hit into combo). WGF is not safe. I'm fairly certain that it is barely -10, but it most certainly can be punished by a low jab which is 8f for all characters.

[@rmnhn]

Heihachi is the Tekken equivalent of Vince McMahon.

[@lancergt1000]

2:05 the second hit of the just frame UF3,4 is **unblockable**

[@mwkan772]

I see^^

[@highoctanesynx7950]

WHAT?

[@strykah92]

​@@highoctanesynx7950 *sits you down by the campfire* Once upon a time in Tekken, there was no such thing as guard protection...

[@BSJINTHEHOUSE420]

Heihachi in T8 when he’s released as DLC:

[@mwkan772]

I really hope so

[@rivendzi]

Reina is going to resurrect him somehow, you heard that first here. 😋

[@dreadalex]

Maybe as a cyber bot. Cyhachi

[@rexhasta]

well…

[@BlasianRobot]

He was in the prime of his human lifespan. 😂 insane

[@DiegoBaez-v3z]

I'm a big Tekken fan which is my favorite fighting game ever. Just wanted to say thanks for the good content and keeping the legacy of the game alive with this informative and fun info. Salutes from Dominican Republic.

[@mwkan772]

glad you like my content^^

[@galanoth619]

thanks for more tekken 3 content just to correct on some things d+1 didnt hit grounded opponents only the big hitbox ones like jack and bears. also df1+2 was absolutely not safe and even launch punishable by some characters like law(jin can punish with ff2)

[@mwkan772]

thanks for the info bro^^

[@vinceamaro1382]

Heihachi's unblockable, Lightning Hammer, can track opponents who tech roll after a juggle. This was removed in Tekken 6.

[@christianruffin1342]

Not to mention if you hold back just as the opponent does a right kick, he automatically does a reversal (which does hurt, but it really hurts your opponent).

[@TheOnlyPersona]

Your content is bite sized and digestible and you present it so interestingly. Also in a niche that not a lot of people are doing. Really great stuff! One of my favorite tekken channels by far

[@belvet2324]

mid godfist

[@JunKazamaFan]

Tekken 3 is the only game where Heihachi can do a Demon Uppercut out of the hellsweeps. Guess they thought it was redundant with the existence of the Dragon Uppercut ender. Still a fun option to mess around with, though.

[@mwkan772]

so true

[@victorespisoler9117]

Tekken 3 was my first tekken as kid. Heihachi defeated me 9 CONSECUTIVE TIMES.. I was a rookie but only King defeated me before. After Heihachi the Ogre round was a JOKE to me.. I defeated him easily.

[@xtlntdx5091]

i mean really what were the rules when making a character in those times?

[@sebhoward6674]

There was only one rule? There was no rules!!!🤣🤣🤣

[@AM19x]

Heihachi was not broken, his attacks has more damage & range but movements are slow, some characers has more speed but less range & less damage, some has more damage but less styles , some has more range & speed but less damage.. in my opinion the only broken character in tekken 3 was Paul, he had better range, better damage & better speed.

[@Onscreenmoon]

Just the fact that his hellsweep doesn’t block stagger gave me hemorrhoids.

[@PrinceBiggiePotato]

is this the ps1 version? i noticed the similar stage in tekken tag 1 and tekken tag 2 the school infinite stage i never saw that stage in my ps1 when i was a kid

[@titanoboris]

wavedash looks clunky, prolly do it without wave dash to emphasize on the moves more

[@rakeshpriyanka154]

Bro talking like only he was broken in tekken 3, mate it was game of brokens😂

[@G_Travel99]

True MID WGF damn, live was good in T3

[@hassanhafiz44]

Next time don't try things on Jack. Specially grounded and range related attacks.

[@mwkan772]

ok

[@Gurvind]

The big man got older and weaker after this. :(

[@soroshbt2841]

Ff3 will launch if delay in ff then press 3 Ff*3

[@foreveruseless1292]

Back when his iron palm was a deathfist lol

[@kt4]

This is where I start maining Heihachi ⚡

[@GEORGIOSMGEORGIADIS4]

So so true! I remember him! The standing twin pistons in particular so op and obviously the hellsweeps, the ff2 and on top id that mid electric ⚡ Excellent video as always man 👍👍

[@mwkan772]

thanks bro

[@Leadblast]

He didn't have electric in T3 😂yet

[@GEORGIOSMGEORGIADIS4]

@@Leadblast ikr only Jin had but hey tbh I prefer the old school mid WGF over the high EWGF we have nowadays 😅

[@chrishipop5]

T3 soundtrack is so damn good

[@lorentsenjr]

He wasn't even top tier xD

[@GNF_cao]

Nice hei t8 dlc previews

[@Robert-nl3fd]

Heihachi's B2 on CH was brutally broken as well. It knocked opps backwards into FFF+ range, it gave you PLENTY of breathing room in a fight, ESPECIALLY during a tight game of Tekken Force

[@Isaac-ry3ks]

Can you do a law video?

[@ruianduk3754]

did ever think by everybody that we maining our char because it S tear back in the day, Hei in tekken 3 was as shown in the video, compare it to hei T7. still strong but you need more effort to use him. i think usage statistic is true.

[@raidennc]

A few omissions/inaccuracies D+1 only hit bigs on the ground in T3. T4 is the first and only game where it hit everyone grounded The first hit of his hellsweep was special mid/special low and could be blocked standing. So while his wgf was mid he didnt have a low to mix it with

[@IsBeyond]

Hoochi in his prime

[@PadPoet]

Heihachi peaked in Tekken 3!

[@gdvanish7145]

So basicly everything he does is safe 😂

[@mwkan772]

df 1 2 is launch punishable

[@Leadblast]

df+1,2 twin pistons is horrendously launch punishable, other moves like f,f+2 or deathfist are safe or not depending on matchup

[@gdvanish7145]

​@@mwkan772oh I see👍

[@theirfinestbean4730]

Loving this direction of content brother, keep it up 👊🏼👊🏼

[@MegaO2Jammer]

0:51 "It completely hits grounded" with the exception of Mokujin, which somehow he cannot hit while Mokujin's grounded

[@Leadblast]

Not just Mokujin... all normal size characters when grounded don't get hit by his d+1. Only big characters do.

[@MegaO2Jammer]

@@Leadblast Nina and Eddy can get hit while they're grounded. I don't know about the other non-bigs though.

[@chidubem826]

Lol Brokken 3

[@arasseo_wakarimashita3904]

All knockdown lows in Tekken 3 has no stagger when guarded. You need to block the entire string of hellsweep

[@sadetwizelve]

Another video showing how cheap any o.p. mishimas have always been.

[@crack4184]

He was in the same game as Ogre dude

[@ametozukumazu6073]

​@@crack4184Dude has something personal against Mishimas. Calling Mishimas or any character cheap because they are insanely good/bad in T3 is kinda...

[@devonh117]

the sound of his df1 hitting is hilarious

[@Shibu_PL]

Do a video on T3 Yoshimitsu. His flash was a true unblockable in that game, had much better range and it could deal like 40 damage. Broken beyond belief lol.

[@strykah92]

Flash had markedly worse range compared to modern Tekkens, it was i5 however. Other notable stuff Yoshi had in T3 was his DF2, absurd reach (can even punish deathfist at most ranges and only -1 on block), fubuki knee that could be done at i7, disjointed hurtbox on DF4, and MID hitting poison mist. And on a trivial note, Yoshi in T3 also had the coolest side throw in Tekken history. 🗿

[@Shibu_PL]

@@strykah92Yeah, that side throw blew my mind when I was a kid. I still remember when my friend showed it to me when I was like 13 years old lol.

[@flanderszao]

Really, the order of bosses in TK3 is messed up The hardest boss comes first, and the easier last

[@mwkan772]

and there's so much stuff people don't know about it..especially doctor b

[@illiahryhorak5860]

Very deep "Oh YEAH!"

[@mr-r1999]

What does i15 mean? Awesome video btw!

[@mwkan772]

15 frames

[@mr-r1999]

But what does "i" stands for? Thanks

[@mwkan772]

i means speed I think

[@maxmercurythemm827]

@@mr-r1999 The i stands for impact, because the move "impacts" (aka hits) at frame 15. Japan and its weird shit...

[@UltimateBallaPOM]

​​@@maxmercurythemm827 Giant Swing in neutral is i15 but 10f Electrics are i14 but 11f

[@AndreyOrochi]

Ooooh good old b2❤❤❤❤

[@theolanderdilag3872]

1:40 Should we tell them? Should we really tell them?

[@mwkan772]

xD

[@TooOldToPlay401]

Been waiting for this one❤

[@mwkan772]

hope you enjoyed it^^

[@-_-Copycat-_-]

The movement is even better then Tekken 7

[@mwkan772]

it is

[@galanoth619]

not even a comparison heihachis side step in tekken 3 covers 3 times more distance than his tekken 7 side step and of course backdash cancel was way better too

[@taylorbee4010]

He has a just frame wgf

[@mwkan772]

I see

[@Leadblast]

Not in T3. Hei's WGF is just a WGF. Jin does have a "justframe WGF" but it doesn't even launch. He also has EWGF.

[@moneydemand1150]

Didnt realize how strong heihachi was in tekken 3 😂

[@Robert-nl3fd]

He made Tekken Force an absolute breeze

[@moneydemand1150]

@@Robert-nl3fd 😂

[@Robert-nl3fd]

It was ridiculous. True Ogre took up half the screen during Tekken Force...and his snake arm took up most of the rest

[@moneydemand1150]

@@Robert-nl3fd true ogre was to dang big 😂

[@Robert-nl3fd]

@@moneydemand1150 It was funny af, to bathe each level in fire😆. Totally brutal

[@somesandman8328]

No view gang

[@mwkan772]

thanks a lot for the support bro^^

[@toilethead1011]

I believe d+1 only hits grounded consistently if you've got a large opponent like Jack or True Ogre. It hits alright on the side angles but doesn't really hit medium or small characters if they're lying clean on their feet or head. That said, WGF among other things, does actually hit grounded large opponents. If they don't techroll, f,f+1+2 WGF is a thing.