My $300 Mistake

[@aliaswrong9004]

I feel bad for the fishes

[@AD-fd9vz]

I like how you inform people about the situation and what you would have done instead of, like so many people on the internet would do, "bash" on the seller and complain. It actually help people see what they need to look for if they want to buy "used" fish.

[@christinebernhard8977]

you should have kept them they were nice fish you could have bring them back to health the ugly cichlid given to me and I never gave it back I nursed it now I got a beautiful one in my fish tank I'm glad I never gave it back

[@AquaticLogic]

I cannot medicate poor genetics. She took them back and re-sold them at a more appropriate price.

[@roxyqueen5076]

I wish you could post an update on your fish..I notice that this is 2016..I am very interested to know how they are doing now.

[@brunocauin]

It is your responsibility to check what you are buying BEFORE you pay for it. You are lucky she accepted the return. I wouldn't...

[@meetmeonthe50]

Bruno Oliveira great customer service Bruno 🙄 what is the name of your stellar company again?

[@a2thek914]

It is sellers responsibility to check for quality BEFORE shipping them. She is lucky that he accepted to settle this with a return. I wouldn't...

[@lisacoggins4541]

@@a2thek914 he picked them up,they weren't shipped

[@Thaleya1]

I would just make her return a bit of the money because the fish werent' up to quality. The fish would heal as much as they can and color up, and fatten up over time and with good care. I would just see it as good I could save those fishes atleast. But yeah we all want different things, I think you were to hard on the fish though.

[@MyAquaticDiary]

im glad these guys found a good owner in you. they will be happy on that premium food!

[@Songbird1977jk]

He said he's sending them back. Sad for the fish.

[@kristiemowry3267]

Kinda late viewing this, but couldn't believe how many viewers gave it a thumbs down. The Tropheus I have seen are, like a lot of fish, nicer looking though not always as colorful when young. Fighting takes a toll on them. Maybe they were overpriced. Our local store sells 1/2 inch fish for $30 dollars. So maybe they weren't. Also, when large only the dominant male is going to really color nicely. I agree with those that said this lady was very generous in making it up to you. She is to be applauded for her understanding of possibly your very high expectations.

[@ZomBeeNature]

something about the fish at around 5:30 waggling back and forth made me uneasy, like they had a disease I have seen fish die from by wasting away...

[@TheEmeraldNight]

Zom Bee I thought more off the too inbreed and low immunity.

[@aranthifernando6944]

Man I hear your pain. But.... If I buy a fish (with or without proper images or knowledge about their health) I will keep em. I will treat em soo good that they will in return loook sexy as fuck! It works no matter how bad the fish are. If I bring em home. They are here to stay. Kinda sad you are giving up on them cuz they are not up to your quality standards.

[@Moon_samurai128]

unless you are specifically trying to breed these fish and sell them to people who are going to judge them for their appearance and make a purchase accordingly, why not keep the fish and just nurse them back to health? even the healthy fish of this species aren't really all that pretty. but what does it matter? I have six little corydoras and they are not the prettiest fish but they have lovely personalities and I enjoy watching them socialize with each other

[@darinvaughan2268]

Another item I ordered was a meerchaum calabash pipe. No stem. No hardware to secure the stem to the bowl.

[@davisraelify]

could you make a video on how to quarantine new fish?

[@triiiton9198]

im canadian as well. Where'd you order he fish from?

[@cali2558]

Sorry to hear about your experience. Looks like there are a few that look ok. The new fish are stunners.

[@RSP190166]

I ordered a fonosa and got sent a convict cichlid. I got my money back and kept the convict. Hope all went well for you...

[@AquaticLogic]

Lol who did you order that from?

[@RSP190166]

LOL, Ebay seller...But lesson learned.

[@FlowingDepths]

+Ricky Peacher Nice catch. A lot of beginners would've missed the difference, I'm glad you were able to tell and got your money back. Sad how careful one must be in their dealings with their fellow humans D:

[@RSP190166]

Lol

[@murphyslaw1832]

same thing happen to me when I ordered a frontosa cichlid.

[@billiamsr71]

the problem is the algae in the tank they had was not running a good mixture of beta 5.

[@tundrafellarrow5738]

Um, I can't seem to get any audio

[@kenjiro2676]

You rescued fish, where did they end up going?

[@ram07ish]

Where'd you get those nice rocks from? Looks super nice!

[@AquaticLogic]

Watch my video called "140G Aquascape" I go over everything in that one.

[@zookeeper3502]

Hey I have a question tell me if this is to many fish for a 20 gallon 5 guppies,2 bristle nose plecos, 7 neon tetras and 2 dwarf gouramis? Also my filter gets 130 gallons of water through it every hour.

[@AquaticLogic]

What type of filter is it? How often do you water changes? What does your NH3, NO2-, NO3-, look like just before a water change?

[@felixthepoopcat8219]

Ants America Is it a 20 long or high? If it's a high I would get rid of both of the plecos. If it's a long I would still find another home for one of the bristle noses. They have pretty large bio loads, even one in a 20 gal is pushing it a bit to some people, much less two. Also what gender are the gouramis? Not two males, right? If you have a male still be careful as guppies can be fin nippers and there are lots of stories of gouramis killing fancy guppies.

[@zookeeper3502]

I changed my mind so I just got 2 black fin tetras to start with also it is 20 long. So I am going to have in total 5 black skirt tetras,4 guppies, and 2 cory cats Also I like the look of zebra danios so I would get 3 of those that is all also I will do a 25% water change every 1 week or every other week .

[@liamdahvis3153]

I've had problems like this before. Purchased some Texas Cichlids, was told they wouldn't get very big. ( They are now the size of a baseball and still not fully matured.) I don't even have a tank big enough for them.

[@GoolamDawood]

How are they doing now?

[@tamonettX500]

Sorry about the purchase :( Wouldn't they eventually heal and fatten up and look beautiful again? Also, no matter how thick glass is, tempered, etc, I just can't understand how so much heavy rock doesn't break the bottom lol Great tank!

[@AquaticLogic]

I suspected that these fish had poor genetics, and the phenotype with the orange band was not going to manifest even if the fish were healthy. As for the rocks, I do double styrofoam. I support the bottom of the tank with it, and I also add some inside the tank on the bottom. It spreads out the load on the glass, and prevents any form of deflective load, which makes it safe. The sand also buffers out the dynamic load if I accidentally drop one.

[@batman2sexy]

tamonettX500 they would look very good in time .glass dont hold weight of rocks its the stand bear all the weight

[@SuperTilemaker]

tamonettX500 you can check out my Channel and see the rocks I put in my tank

[@miguelsantiago750]

this kinda shit happens alot in the city, this same exact tactic is used by fish sellers on ppl , id of burnt their house down over this

[@RobsRobotChannel]

tamonettX500 glass (or silica) is extremely hard... why are you surprised again? Glass is extremely hard but is also brittle... are you picturing him "dropping" the rocks in? glass does not handle impact well, but is extremely strong. how stupid can someone be?

[@MasterAquatics]

people in the comment section really need to calm down... especially the ones that dont know shit about the hobby. when its about fish its all about the looks. you dont go to the pet store and pick out fish that you feel bad for or need to be rescued. you pick out fish that you like to look at. fish are very expensive pets so when you pay a x amount of money for a fish you want what you pay for. maybe he did not discard the fish properly but its understandable.

[@dominiquelee7198]

What type of rocks are those ?

[@gcurran1212]

GLAD YOU ARE QT'ING THEM....DID YOU NOTICE THE SCRAPING ON THE SAND IN THE NEW LITTLE ONES? THE SHIMMYING? HOPE THEY MADE IT. UPDATE?

[@mattniven6380]

Always walk away and don't buy if unsure. We learn from our mistakes. Tank looking good, all the best.

[@AquaticLogic]

Thanks Matt

[@sribabu1080]

WHAT VARITIES OF FISH ARE THEY VERY BEAUTIFUL

[@AquaticLogic]

Tropheus sp Bemba Orange

[@rickyspanish5691]

They pulled the old quick hood hand off. Straight up slapped your head sorry about that though. Always check the bag and say hell no to schwag. Yea if anyone ever has this happen and you show up and everythings ready to go and you can't check it leave.

[@dmichaelsfishden]

Sorry to hear, man - bummer. Especially after 3 hours total drive time. Sometimes this happens in the hobby.....I've bought off 2, 3 year old pictures in the past as well. Now I do thoroughly vet anyone I buy from, and now only reputable companies with proven track records. Great channel, great vids! Subbed and looking forward to following you! 👍

[@AquaticLogic]

Thanks dude I appreciate the positive feedback ;-)

[@keithadkins1834]

What kind of rocks are those? Very nice.

[@AquaticLogic]

Check out my channel. I have vids on everything including the rocks ;-)

[@jerryjunoirmint]

nice tank did you build It ? How many gallons ?

[@AquaticLogic]

Thanks. I build the stand but the tank was manufactured.

[@mantvydas3493]

What wave maker are you using?

[@KingEli904]

What are the specs of your tank

[@theanswer69786]

what kinda fish are those

[@frickbot]

And I was annoyed when the 175 dollar canister filter I bought for 60 dollars wasn't up to par... I kept it though and am just replacing the tubing and all the intake/output pieces on a "3 month old pump"

[@AquaticLogic]

Sorry to hear that man, but at least you know now how long its gonna go before another preventative maintenance interval.

[@pptkpengadaanobatobatanrsu4288]

is it salt water tank?

[@MakoyUnggoy]

I know this is an old video but for some reason it's just popped up on my youtube. I'm just going to have a look on your channel now to see what else is on there, and yeah, watching a video of the potential fish you want to buy is the way if you can't be there in person to take a look yourself

[@MIXMASTERBJB1]

Are you sure you didn't stress these fish with improper acclamation

[@blufish11]

Great video. Did she take back all fish and return all $$?

[@AquaticLogic]

Thanks Frosty. Yeah she took everything back and refunded my money. I then purchased the beauties I have now from aFISHionados in Winnipeg. It was a royal pain in my ass, but lesson learned, and no long-term damage caused.

[@albaniansk8er]

Are those Demasoni in there?

[@torontoraptors2107]

hey man! i just subd. im from canada toronto, where can i buy these guys? does big als have them? thanks man! beautiful fishes-

[@AquaticLogic]

Dude you need to check out Spencer Jack! Look for the unboxing video I did, you can see the whole process.

[@mikespence7250]

put some different lighting in to accent their colors. Driftwood would help your tank pop a bit too.

[@lnhislmage]

That was a lot of big fish for $300 what did you have to pay for the small ones?

[@jasongalasso8220]

hey I just subbed to u. that sucks about the fish hope everything went well for u. so I just got 6 African cichlids and I've been doing some research on them for a long time. is there anything else about them that I might not knoe

[@AquaticLogic]

What species of Cichlids did you get?

[@stefanschuster8971]

Which breeder do you use in Canada bud

[@AquaticLogic]

aFISHionados in Winnipeg

[@shrknan0145]

Does any one else notice that the filter looks like the throwing knife crosshair from modern warfare 2?

[@TheGambler2003]

I started my first fish tank seven months ago and I have 3 tanks now one 90 gallon (Africian Cichlids) 40 gallon tank (angelfish, neon tetras, black longfin tetras and albino Cory Cats) 20 gallon Tetras and Cory cats

[@shecomments6106]

But how long did you quarantine them? Why expose your existing fish to these ones?

[@AquaticLogic]

That whole tank was a new setup, so I was going to treat all fish in the tank at the same time, because they were added days apart.

[@shecomments6106]

I was wondering given they are from two different populations and the second batch are so raggedy. Good luck with your tank, love the aquaspace!

[@michaelteale2683]

great tank?

[@GreenEyes-rg4yr]

As an animal rescuer, my passion , my life, is saving them from ignorant and selfish humans. So sad to hear another tale of abuse....

[@zombiehunter1108]

Susie Spohn I understand, fish are like any other animal, I have a community fish tank, and even I know not to put them all in one tank together...

[@nadnerb_sr20]

Susie Spohn Boi

[@thehobbit4162]

AND HE GAVE THEM BACKKK

[@kelvinmcdonald7809]

what type of fish are they

[@AquaticLogic]

Tropheus sp. bemba orange OR Tropheus moorii (bemba) it depends which scientist you ask.

[@nyloaf]

I know you got screwed out of your money, but a part of me wishes that you would have taken them anyway and nurtured them back to health because honestly, that woman could NOT do it on her own if they had gotten to that condition on her watch. (Btw i had to check twice that i spelled nurtured right because it looks rly fuckin weird when you think about it too much)

[@salvolondon]

So did you give the fish back to the lady ?

[@AquaticLogic]

Yeah I gave them back, and got all my money back and am living happily ever after with the fish in the latter part of the video.

[@jessewarren3323]

you keep saying woman but are these bot the ones you ordered by air from spencer in the video before this one?

[@AquaticLogic]

The Spencer Jack aFISHionados order was the solution to the above fish problem.

[@vapelounge6110]

are the small light blue ones demansoni?

[@AquaticLogic]

You bet they are! (Pseudotropheus demasoni)

[@wkunique]

...small bemba looks ok but, when they grownup they orange colour get dirty, (dominant male kept colour most the time), that is why I got Kiriza right now

[@rondj1965]

Did you get any money back?

[@youngmoney5409]

Great Tank! Those fish are nice, Iove the black and blue colors..

[@mariemeneses2117]

Hope the fish are all well too, within the year.

[@joseconsuegra5962]

Good morning brother, did you collect the rocks your self?

[@AquaticLogic]

I have a landscaping company near me that sells this "Rundle Rock" in huge 300lb-10,000lb boulders. I took home a 300lb rock and smashed it up with my sledgehammer and threw the chunks in my tank. Its actually a limestone, so it will keep the pH, GH, KH up to Rift Lake specs (but my water is pretty much saturated liquid rock off of the mountains in which this rock comes from).

[@joseconsuegra5962]

Thanks

[@tkstv9710]

Hey been looking at some videos on aquatics, been wanting to get into the hobby, never owned fish and am still considering the matter. Any way you could explain where i should start? Also sorry bout that, must've sucked big time

[@tkstv9710]

I think beta fish are very beautiful and would like to get one, but not sure if that's the best way to go straight away.

[@AquaticLogic]

My first fish was a Betta, I got to take it home after we did (ethical) experiments on them in my into bio class at university. I think it’s a great place to start, and as far as laying out a road map it would require me to type out A LOT of info for you. My best advice is to check out a local mom and pop fish store with intelligent and caring people working there. The big box fish stores suffer from turnaround and hiring… Uh… People with low IQ’s? There are some awesome KZbin videos that go through “how to setup your first tank”, and I suggest starting there. Just get the Betta an actual aquarium, with an actual filter so it does not suffer a long time and die. It like any aquatic organism needs no Ammonia or Nitrites in the water. Also, get a filter WITHOUT disposable cartriges! Aquaclear, Fluval C-series, Seachem Tidal, sponge filter, something like that. HTH

[@tkstv9710]

Thank you for the reply and advice, i will be sure to look into it and make sure I know what I'm doing before getting a Betta fish, but one more thing, is it true they're very aggressive because I have heard they are from some people and aren't from others?

[@AquaticLogic]

They show really strong aggression male-male (conspecific). If a female Betta, or any other fish from a different species is in there they wont care. If you add a male and female its pretty neat because of their unique breeding behavior.

[@lolilikeReptiles]

dude, those rocks are sick. where'd you get them from?

[@AquaticLogic]

www.thunderstonequarry.com/product/

[@CeaselessSlinky]

what kind of dog are these ?

[@juliannatale6743]

I think they are Huskies, or poodles?

[@evansnedecor1465]

I regret getting my black piranha. skittish boring and have to keep solo.

[@AquaticLogic]

Hindsight is always 20/20 Evan, luckily you can sell or trade fish and move onto something different. I know that all the petstores in my area would take a healthy Piranha back on in-store credit.

[@Josh-iv7ki]

When I can afford I want to get a 55-80 gallon whatever is the best deal tank of schooling fish I'm thinking maybe silver dollars or things like that. Super excited almost there to afford a good deal I found.

[@lomiluddin9446]

Hey did she turn up and give you the money back or NO SHOW.

[@AquaticLogic]

She turned up, and I got all my money back thank goodness. If you check out my channel I have many updates on the new fish I got. Thanks for the comment.

[@keolakamaunu7578]

Never ever have them drain tank before you get there always leave it as is wait look and if you like them then drain it and then take them

[@j_toledo419]

Ok I get that you were unsatisfied, 100% feel ya but.... Give en 2-3 weeks and they will be exactly what you wanted. I'd do that as opposed to transporting them yet again especially since you made the decision brother.

[@xBeauGaming]

So you got Catfished on your fish purchase...seems like normal internet behavior now a days ;)

[@AquaticLogic]

I have not thought of it that way... AND YOUR RIGHT! :-0

[@terrancejackson3]

What lighting are you using?

[@AquaticLogic]

Two 36" BeamsWork LEDs

[@CoreyHecker]

That sucks, but like you said, at least she didn't completely screw you. Subbed you up.

[@AquaticLogic]

Thanks Corey, this tank is is already yielding some nice surprises. Look for it in the next video!

[@37712]

the fish look exactly the same wtf are u talking about different color

[@shanellebounds4204]

37712 well he didn't say different colors. He said the fish were getting their color.😊 I think he's talking more about the stripe on the fish. Cuz the second batch look more vibrant. At least the Orange stripe ok them. Have a good day!!!!!!

[@strawberryyogurt0]

I'm always curious about what happens after the video. Under the comment section, I read that she took everything back and you got a full refund. But what was the whole story behind it and after it? She wanted to get out of the aquarium hobby and that's why she sold them, or something else? Did she refill her tank and simply kept all the fishes? etc. etc.

[@AquaticLogic]

To be honest I cant do much to delineate what happened after our reverse transaction. She took the fish, I got my $300 back, and I have not seen them re-posted for sale on the aquarium forum that we are both members of. She is still in the hobby with many, many, many tanks, but my suspicion is that she is having a hard time selling things now because word got out (to some extent) about what happened... And some of my friends watch my KZbin channel ;-)

[@Gladiator333166]

Why Demasoni with Tropheus...

[@AquaticLogic]

It was temporary. The tank now is just Tropheus.

[@jimjobes5187]

what sand substrate are you using in your tanks

[@AquaticLogic]

Jim Jobes kzbin.info/www/bejne/ombKgWSVZbeYq6M

[@SageWolfStudio]

Ooh pretty fish! I especially like the neon blue ones!

[@AquaticLogic]

Those are Pseudotropheus demasoni. I agree they are scintillating.

[@kylejarvis7718]

If you would have had a lighter background they would have colored backup

[@bruhverlybruh4012]

At least you rescued some fishies in a rough spot.

[@joeculler2943]

Tropheus are a very very difficult fish to care for. there will always be a couple fish in a group that are beat up. the aggressive males chase and harass all the other fish in the group. I kept them for years and that group doesn't look that bad

[@Etienne_H]

Poor fish have to go back to that place

[@AquaticLogic]

Unfortunately yeah they had to. I could not verify their genetics, and I could not handle the possibility that these fish could make it genetically impossible to look beautiful. I have to problem with (and actually enjoy) rehabilitating fish, these ones seems too high risk for me, especially because I have never kept Tanganyikans before.

[@masumoto007]

Aquatic Logic i have raised tropheus for a long time.... they are very aggressive... they beat each other up until things get worked out.... keep changing the environment up.... they have to reorganize.

[@deangreen1309]

@@AquaticLogic I know this is a really old video, but i just gotta say.. "I could not handle the possibility that these fish could make it genetically impossible to look beautiful:.. this statement makes you look like an absolute asshole.. Will not be watching any more of your videos.

[@NiklasForsman1]

Wow. I don't know anything about fish, but 300dollars seams like a lot of money for fish. Is it common or fish to be that expensive?

[@l.l.b4096]

They act so aggressive towards one another. How large do they get? Also, the tank looks over stocked. I'm glad you got your money back. Maybe you can buy fewer fish and better quality. Good Luck.

[@myname3074]

Man I really hope everything goes well for ya. I really enjoy the cichlid world. I like the demasni if that's how you spell it. I used to keep bracadis with demasi I really love the tail on the bracadi

[@matthewwestbury4528]

I like when I hear somebody in this hobby who actully knows wtf there talking about . This guy knows what he's doing

[@AquaticLogic]

Thanks Matthew. I have spent 4 years studying biology in University and I am trying my best to apply it to my channel, but the cool thing is there is always more to learn.

[@TheSchoolofFish]

I hope you work it out with the seller. Just curious as to why you didn't quarantine the fish? The $300 mistake could be even costlier if the existing fish picked up whatever they had. Good stuff! Subscribed. Hope you can check out my channel as well. I don't have any African cichlids at the moment, but may get some soon.

[@AquaticLogic]

It was a brand new tank and brand new setup so I didn't QT anything. But your right, I would be insane to add them in a pre-existing setup with out a lengthy vetting process.

[@gregghatfield9946]

So where were those going to the toilet 🚽?? Hope they are good

[@fishing4lyfe283]

is this fresh or salt watwr

[@AquaticLogic]

Fresh

[@825Daryl]

and u can buy from them , i dont go to pet stores anymore

[@freemansaquatics5326]

she agreed because she knew she did a S##### thing im sorry man second batch looks way better and healthy

[@AquaticLogic]

Yeah, she also had a high position in my local aquarium club and if she didnt want to do a return it would have adversely affected her life.

[@hogleg8103]

That's kind of bitchy to say.. esp for a man lol

[@DarkAngels2890]

I subbed 😊 I don't know what it is, but I've started having this love for watching and learning about fish, and yours are absolutely beautiful! It blows about the bad bunch though. 😕

[@AquaticLogic]

If life throws you lemons, you gotta make lemonade (liquid KZbin Videos).

[@hamsack981]

dude you work for that money do t be afraid to check stuff out and make sure it's what you want. if a seller for anything is gonna rush your decision it's prolly a bad idea.

[@AquaticLogic]

Right now the wife works for that money (i'm a full-time student) but point taken. I was trusting her way too much.

[@hamsack981]

im in nthe same boat! full time student!

[@curt8806]

Why not just take car eof them and let them heal? Seems they will be fine.

[@waelomanvlogs6792]

What a bummer man :( , But you are a great fish keeper ! They will get better.

[@AquaticLogic]

Thanks for the comment. I had to get a refund for those fish and I kept the ones in the latter part of the video.

[@danieljckson]

Wow so disappointed, you rescued several animals, showed them how great life could be then dumped them because they were not pretty enough, how sad for the fish. My fish are my pets and no less so then my dog. They aren't trophies to be put on a shelf they are pets to be cared for. For a brief moment those fish had what seemed to be one the best people on the planet to care for them and now what? wonder how many of those are even alive now...

[@AquaticLogic]

Unfortunately I do not have a messiah complex, nor do I have an unlimited amount of money. I would love to see your rescue efforts though because there are a lot of sick and needy fish out there.

[@JamesKing2understandinglife]

I understand your logic. Making purchases is done for reasons that each individual find important!

[@danieljckson]

I have taken many "rescued" fish from people who would have just flushed them if not for me so you are barking up the wrong tree there my friend and every dog I have ever had was a rescue, I donate regularly to Hope for Paws and a couple of other groups and I help a local rescue so is it ok if I comment about the care of those fish?

[@danieljckson]

for that matter if I get ANY animal and find its been neglected I would never give it back... Its not having a messiah complex its having humanity.

[@danieljckson]

You are all missing the point.... You all care more about what these animals look like, they are trophies to you not animals, they are things, no different then a dresser or end table to you. One scratch and its it the trash with ya, I needed a prettier one.

[@michelemichele5204]

awww, i wish you didnt give them back. you seem like you can save them. so what if they take a bit of time. giving them back is killing them! bummer

[@purrrrson]

I don't think you should have returned the fish to her. She obviously didn't know how to care for them. What you should have done was had her return your money, given her back $20-$30 and kept the fish. Then tell her that returning the fish to her was most likely a death sentence for them and you would rehabilitate them, get them healthy again and give them a good home. If none of them died, you could return another small sum of money back to her but your time was worth money too and caring for sick fish takes money too. I know it's too late now. I hope those fish found a new home and weren't just flushed or worse......released into a local lake or pond.

[@vincevengeance9755]

no he doesn't has love for them. all he want is to get his money returned and buy another new batch of beautiful fish. probably for display tank, for other people to come and praise his beautiful fish. some people they keep animals because they want to watch it and let other to praise about it. some people keep animals because they love that animal. these people they care more on the love parts of the animals, and not for display. so you will see some people they love to keep so many juvenile fishes and cull the ugly one when they realize it, so that he can have beautiful fishes which make him proud. then you will see some people they keep some ugly fishes and some beautiful fishes and when you ask them, "why you keep those ugly fishes?" you will most probably start to hear them talking about the story of these fish, how he rescue them, how he felt pity for them when they are abused by the previous owners and so on. so there are always these 2 type of fish keepers. one for the display and proud. one for the love of that fish (like dogs and cats).

[@etm3398]

who in this world wants to keep ugly fish?

[@chickenstrangler3826]

They're millions of fish, why keep ugly ones? There are 3-4 million dogs euthanized each year so should you give the sick ones a home or the healthy ones a home? Obviously the healthy ones should live and, unfortunately, the sick ones will be euthanized.

[@davehendricks7023]

Of take full responsibility for your actions and learn to check your purchase before spending money on something fishy I would not have given you shit back it's up to the buyer to ask the right questions.

[@aaqilian5.085]

all that space and all you have is a couple rocks and a bunch of cichlids? that's criminal. If i had that much space, I'd create such an awesome aquascape, utilizing all the space

[@xXSinForLifeXx]

U say they lived in your town ? Yet you had to drive 2 hours away . Holy shit that's like size of my state.