My ASTROCAMERA got a design refresh! What changed? It's not all good..

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[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Support me on Patreon!: www.patreon.com/cuivlazygeek Touptek Camera: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DCY... OGMA cameras: getogma.com/

[@sdoseri]

Dear cuiv 😊 Can you please do an imaging session with a new camera and show us the camera performance and image quality

[@crateer]

Astroshop in Germany has currently a sale going on for the Omegon imx571 mono/osc cameras (rebranded Touptek). As of writing this (03. Mai. 2023), the Omegon vetec 571 Mono is 1.989€. The OSC is 1.349€! Ordered mine yesterday while I saw it as I have been thinking about buying one for months haha and already received it - the Omegon vetec 571 mono. So the Omegon mono is currently 600€ cheaper than the OSC version of ZWO. And around 1200€ cheaper than the Asi 2600Mono here in Germany at the moment, lol. Excited to test this bad boy tonight :D Great video as always!

[@YSam-rb9bz]

Like for the disassembly!

[@davewilton6021]

Thanks! I'll be looking at Touptek next time I'm in the market for a camera.

[@crm114.]

Great review. I’m surprised the flow of air from the camera (presumably at slightly higher temp) doesn’t impact the imaging considering where the camers is sited.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Thanks Cliff! I'm sure it does to some extent... But I am not sure of the extent...

[@desbarry8414]

I have the Altair 26C IMX571 version here in the UK its £650 cheaper than the ZWO lol Does yours have the Ultra Low Noise mode Cuive? I use it with Sharpcap sensor analysis and the smart histogram tool, love it.

[@kenhansard3734]

Great review. I have the same older version and it's really great. They also do the ATR3CMOS10300KPA imx294 sensor with a smaller FOV and 14bit but similar price for maybe longer focal length scopes. I had a really good customer experience with Ali express rising cam. Fast delivery and responded to questions very quickly

[@JVRost]

And I bought a new format and now I have this flange on tilt, well, it’s clear after the application of my head and hands of a turner))

[@tubedude54]

I'm thinking in your correspondence with RisingCam you suggest to them either a software toggle to turn the leds off or a toggle switch on the back to do it manually and see what they say/do.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Yep - suggesting this!

[@user-lt9py2pu6u]

Another interesting post. I use an Altair Astro camera which I believe is also from the same factory as the Touptek, I really like using it. regarding the LEDs I am surprised that the manufacturer has not included a facility to dim/turn off these (my Sesto Senso focuser has this function).

[@RisingCam]

Hi Cuiv. This is Eddie, Great Video.

[@rtpman1953]

Another great video, Cuiv. I currently have the ZWO ASI2600mm Pro but wanted to get the color camera one for various other projects such as outreach while doing live stacking. The price of this camera seems to be a great deal. And thanks for the USA based supplier.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

If you need an additional camera, this is definitely a contender

[@Luftbubblan]

Very nice of them to send you one :) Looks like some nice changes. Personally id love to have the possibility to directly mount the camera to my zwo efw.

[@KarasDrinksCoffee]

The new version's adapter has 6 m2.5 thread holes which is matching the logo side of ZWO EFW. The M42 male thread is also compatible with EFW

[@ws5246]

Hi Cuiv. I also bought this camera 2 years ago and absolutely love it. Unfortunately a dodgy power supply fried it about 4 weeks ago, I was devastated . I got in touch with Eddie from RisingCam and he got me to send it back to them and they managed to fix it for the grand price of 55USD!!! It's winging its way back to me as I write this. What fantastic customer service, I will definitely be buying from them again. I am in the UK so thought buying from a company in China might be a bit of a punt, very happy I went ahead with this purchase 😁

[@boletaso]

I'm thinking in buying the mono version of this camera, thanks for the info

[@fazergazer]

You know you’ve arrived when you also get excited over 5 mm extra backfocus accommodation 😂🎉

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Hahaha yes indeed!

[@sekitv]

Thank you for another good review and useful information my friend. I have a question. About 12.5mm BF adapter is include this camera ?

[@andyhewitt5277]

Hi Cuiv. Thanks for another great video. Have been following your content for a while but haven’t got in touch before now. I have the original OSC Rising Cam the same as you, and in this video and a recent previous video, you mention firmware upgrades - I’ve had mine for over a year now, is the new firmware just for the updated camera, or is it something you’d recommend for the original too? Looking to support you financially in the near future, I find your content very useful, thank you.

[@DSOImager]

Looks like a solid design. I do plan on purchasing an imx571 based camera in the future.. good see this. I'm a little surprised there isn't a driver or some software to turn the leds off.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Yeah I wish there was!

[@linuxastro]

Interesting alternative to ZWO. I was also pleased to see that there are specific Linux INDI drivers for Toupcam cameras. That was a nice surprise for me.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Always good to see Linux drivers!

[@tesmanu]

I've just had an answer about the LEDs to deactivate them. " About the LED turn off, it is not only modify driver, it also need modify PCB board hardware, we are doing now, I think we can finish it in near future "

[@rashie]

👍👍- Thanks Cuiv.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Always a pleasure!

[@davidf9494]

Another excellent equipment review Cuiv! Does this camera come in a mono version and do these cameras come wtih built-in tilt adjusters ?

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Yep, there is a mono version, but the price is similar to the 2600MM!

[@fredmercury1314]

I've got one of the old ones. It's excellent.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Glad to see you like it :)

[@peterlaubscher3989]

I find the Toupcam superb!

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

It does look quite nice :)

[@RyanParle81]

I just wish that these cameras had the option of a larger thread than M42. For me M48 or M54 would be ideal.

[@RyanParle81]

Cuiv, do you think there would be enough room between the bolts of the adapter on the new version of the camera to accommodate an M48 or M54 thread? I might consider getting a custom adaptor made if it looks like it will fit.

[@anthonyexmouth]

Considering one of these, would you recommend the AR or IR Cut filter option when buying one?

[@kennetknudsen7042]

looks like a great contender for a aps-c cam i want to add to my line up (for rasa) now to figure out OSC vs mono (got 533mm atm) ps i think they could in firmware turn off the led

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

The 533MM is a great camera too :)

[@johndavis9641]

Can you list a link to the adapter that you showed which reduced the back focus from 17.5mm to 12.5mm? I'm contemplating an OGMA AP26MC and would like to make that modification to insure that my filters will not vingette. Thanks!

[@pompeymonkey3271]

If you are using it in a RASA configuration, you might also want to paint over the blue finish with some matt black! ;)

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Yes that's another good point!

[@user-ft1ll4gx6u]

Very nice review, as usual! I've a SW 200f5 and I'm undecided between the 571 and the 533, I'd like to use for deep and planetary too.. what do you suggest me ?

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

The 571 and the 533 are effectively the same sensor - the 533 is just a cropped version!

[@olivierrethore9097]

Cuiv, try to get a PlayerOne Poseidon. It is the perfect camera for RASA or Hyperstar. Tilt is really easy to correct and its design and quality are outstanding. But yes it is more expansive. Regards

[@quiquetorres5040]

Do the mounting holes in the Touptek camera line up with the holes in the QHY cameras?

[@koamit]

For hyperstar, what camera adapter you selected from starizona adapter drop down list?

[@interstellxxr2793]

I’m picking petals off a daisy thinking about if I should buy one or should I not buy one.. you make me want to get one so bad!! Great video ❤

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Mwahaha you're already in love with the camera, you should just get it haha

[@interstellxxr2793]

@@CuivTheLazyGeek in the end I did get it haha! I’ve come back to this video because I was wondering if the front plate on the new design can be used as a tilt plate?

[@ferranmazzanti8041]

Hi Cuiv, just a question. I have the old mono version of this camera, which I bought because of your video and couldn’t be happier (so thanks pal :). Now you say the new one comes with updated drivers... do you know if those will work with my older model? These are ASCOM ones,right? Thanks...

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

The drivers are bundled with NINA, so if you update NINA you get the new drivers :)

[@aradani3]

Nice! It looks like the newer version is slightly thinner, right? I remember that when you purchased your Touptek camera you still recommended ZWO over Touptek, do you still think the same? Looking forward to see some videos of your new SW 150p F4

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

I think overall all the 571 sensor cameras are doing a marvelous job - I'd recommend ZWO for ASIAIR users, and for people who like the color red :D

[@aradani3]

​@@CuivTheLazyGeek LOL Is not that I like or don't like red, but my Technosky refractor has some touches of red, so having a blue camera was totally out of question! AND since I'm a non-conformist I chose a Player One camera!

[@claudiotenreiro3111]

Thanks for the review, does the male adaptor M42 comes with the camera or it is sold separately?

[@IamArtimon-ui4co]

I think no, and deeply would be please that Cuiv give us this reference ... ;)

[@StargazerRobUK]

Hi Cuiv, I luckily got the newer version and was wanting to ask if you had a link or details for the m42 male adapter please?

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

No links, but Touptek has been talking to their resellers to include the adapter with new cameras, or provide it at low cost to previous buyers - so just try reaching out to the dealer who sold it to you!

[@JVRost]

I forgot to ask, did the adapter that reduces the working length to 12.5 mm come with the camera? I did not have it. Or can it be purchased separately?

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Ask your dealer / seller - apparently they can provide it

[@ctortolini]

Hi Cuiv, quick question, hope you can give me some pointers... I just got the mono version of the RisingCam IMX571 and I'm wondering what the best settings for gain would be... High Gain mode on? Ultra low noise mode on? Gain 100? What about offset? Any advice? To be honest, the settings on this camera deserve a video of its own! Thanks!

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

I would use High Gain Mode on, Ultra low noise mode on, extended full well off, gain 100, offset 50! And yes those settings deserve a video, but I don't fully understand them so I can't make one!

[@francescoradici8181]

Hi Cuiv! I just boght an omegon vetec 571c, new model, that's basically the same camera you got. I could try it yesterday evening but had a "little" problem with backfocus... The camera has the same adapter/tilter than yours (but no other adapters) but it seems to me this new sistem is ADDING 5mm to the original 17,5, since I couldn't even reach proper focus on my newton (with the same optical train I used with my old QHY294C, that has 17,5mm BF). Removing a 5mm spacer I could reach focus and had good stars (except fore a little tilt) till the corner at a distance that should be, taking 17,5mm for good, 52mm total... 🤔 Also, my camera has a mark printed on the body that shows the position of the sensor. The distance between the mark and the end of the outwr ring is 17,5+5mm... So my question is: Have you tested the real backfocus of your new cam? That would explain also the slightly increase on camera leght, I presume... (contacted Omegon assistance, they say the real BF is still 17,5, maybe the mark is misplaced and they can't explain the focus issue...)

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

That sounds weird - I haven't specifically tested the backfocus, but it seems to be right for both my Newt, my Askar V, and my Hyperstar, which I've tested the camera on!

[@RisingCam]

RisingCam has New version Camera.

[@scottrk4930]

You should be careful running your potentially static charged fingers across the circuit boards . It doesn’t take much . As someone already commented , maybe the led’s could be disabled or dimmed through software . Fingers crossed . Thanks for the update .

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Thanks for the warning! Will be careful

[@rawhead909]

Did that adapter come with? I unknowingly got the updated version of the camera a few months ago; always thought that that plate was a tilt adjuster :P Anyway, I don't think that adapter for the shorter back focus did not come with mine.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

I'm asking Touptek!

[@ashotinthedark9443]

I notice also that the new version is fitted with a IR block and the old one is just AR coated. You can see from the reflections.

[@Neanderthal75]

I think Risincam let's you pick which one you want when you buy it. Either IR/UV or just AR coating.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

As Frank says, you can choose!

[@kenhansard3734]

I had the option to pick ircut or clear during purchase

[@IamArtimon-ui4co]

Hey Cuiv! What is the reference for your adapter 12.5mm BF ?? Deeply interesting! Thanks in advance

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

I'll check!

[@IamArtimon-ui4co]

@@CuivTheLazyGeek Hey! Could you have an eye on this adapter reference, please? Tks

[@nuforuk]

excellent video as normal :) i cant afford a cooled camera yet still using a dslr, question for you if you had the choice of buying a uncooled aps-c sensor ccd or a full frame dslr what would you go for?

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Full frame IF my telescope supported it

[@nuforuk]

@@CuivTheLazyGeek thank you I thought most telescopes with a 2” fit support full frame?

[@francescoradici8181]

Very few hi end telescope really support full frame. You'll have a lot of problems in terms of field flattening... 😢

[@nuforuk]

@@francescoradici8181 many thanks I never knew that

[@rXHrzn]

Fiiiiiiinaly!!!! This stupid ass 3mm ring with no thread on the outside is gone🙏

[@tesmanu]

now there's something strange too. With the new model, they've changed the drivers too, and now in N.I.N.A you don't have the same settings at all. The gain goes from 100 to 10,000 offset from 0 to 7936 after changing everything, you just don't know what to do.😭😭😭😭

[@druid6605]

Hey guys, a beginner question. Dose this camera work with asi air plus?

[@southbronxny5727]

Camera looks great but I'm stuck between QHY183C 2.4pixel, on sale now for 599 or this camera for 1300. What's your opinion for my 80mm/600mm f7.5?

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

That's a tough one! For galaxy season, the 183C, for nebula season the Risingcam?

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

I'd probably go for the Risingcam/Touptek simply because of the lack of amp glow...

[@Njunx10minutesastro]

Hello, is there any mono version of this new updated camera? I look over ali express, there is no mono camera of this new version(updated version).

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

My *guess* is that the pictures haven't been updated? But I'm not sure

[@crateer]

I bought the Omegon version (vetec) of the touptek imx571 mono in germany a week ago, and it is indeed the new version :)

[@saschalohaus6545]

Where the heck can I get this shorten M42 male adapter to reduce the backfocus. Does anyone have a link? Thanks!

[@julianm12345]

I've got one of the newer Toupcam versions. Regarding the modofication to reduce the flange distance, I've got a Sony E mount Samyang 135mm, which has an 18mm back focus distance. Does anyone know if it's possible to get a T to Sony mount thin enough to use this lens with the adapted camera?

[@davecurtis8833]

Excellent question. I too would be interested in knowing this. This could open up access to Sony E mount lenses.

[@Si-fp2ij]

Can you recommend good suppliers for Australia 🇦🇺 Cuiv?

[@dankahraman354]

Blue LEDs would be a huge additional improvement over red ones. Why? Sensors are very insensitive to blue light...of course recessed LEDs.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

But how I hate blue LEDs personally, they do appear so bright to us humans :)

[@syberand]

They should really do so you could turn off the LEDs in software...

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Yep that would be really nice!

[@fredmercury1314]

I would've liked to have seen a USB3 hub not USB2.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

The use case is typically filter wheel and focuser, which don't really need USB3... for the guide camera?

[@fredmercury1314]

@@CuivTheLazyGeek My goal in life is to find a way to run one cable from the top to the bottom :D I was thinking for the guide cam.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

@@fredmercury1314 hahaha makes sense! Maybe the 2600MC Duo is for you then ;)

[@martenyar8775]

I'd rather buy from China, for me it's way cheaper than from the US. Tape on the LEDs will fall off sooner or later. Black paint is better option.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Yep - but black paint is permanent, more or less...