My AudioNerds - Does Plugin Chain Order Matter

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[@jamescurtis]

Just discovered this channel / podcast today. My new favourite! Can't wait to listen to all the previous episodes. So good to hear both mixer and producer perspectives in one discussion. Love the way the conversation naturally flows and segway's off of each other. My favourite reverbs are Eventide Blackhole, IK Multimedia Sunset Sound Studios, and maybe some kind of Spring like AudioThing Springs because it's great for Dub/Reggae. I agree that the Ableton Convolution Reverb has some great IR's. If I could go back I'd probably just start with stock plugins and learn them inside out!

[@HelpMeDevvon]

Glad to have another fellow audio nerd!!

[@isaiahsims__]

Man i love watching these! Native instruments gets slept on too much but I like to clean before I color as well. And definitely clean before i effect but i recently had to make sure i was cleaning the effect as well. Switched a lot of things up for me.

[@HelpMeDevvon]

Yea just removes a lot of un wanted frequencies

[@stuartnickolas503]

I'm making a polite request for longer episodes please & thank you.

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Yo I wouldn’t call myself an engineer or a producer but I dabble in both fields and I’m learning a lot from this show

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[@LashonEvans216]

Lexicon 480 is incredible. Definitely my go-to

[@MKD371]

The shuffler changes where the bass frequency is in the spread, which can be dialled in with the frequency slider. It's useful, especially when you use the attenuate to minus 3db for the bass. So you can take out bass in a spread, then change where that bass sits in the spread. Good for reverbs, for example.

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[@TaytaMade]

First time seeing this podcast and I'm loving it... If FL starts to focus on the functionality for recording and faster waveform manipulation in the arrangement window it's the biggest and best DAW from then on hands dwn...

[@SpeakHerMusic]

That's a fact

[@ZAY________]

Hey guys love the podcast so much. I have question Regarding a simple 2 track beat from KZbin lets say. Curious about Plugin chain order for the beat as you have reviewed a couple plugins for a 2track in prior videos. I have the -Studio Rack HMD 2track preset. Do I run this plugin first and > then into Trackspacer??? OR TrackSpacer > into Studio Rack HMD? And then how to incorporate these WITH a Clip Gain plugin? (Logic's Gain Tool) On the recent podcast Devvon mentioned sometimes you are clip gaining a 2track beat down from between -5.6 sometimes even -10. So let's say you are at -10 clip gain on the GAIN plugin in Logic; where should the levels in StudioRack be sitting then? There's both a GAIN knob and a MASTER VOLUME knob in StudioRack. If we need to adjust volume of the beat during mixing, where should we predominately be doing this at? At the GAIN plugin at the very beginning? or leave the GAIN plugin at -10 (or whatever its initially set to) and bring it up the volume using the StudioRack GAIN knob and MASTER VOLUME fader 🤔(thanks so much!)

[@Kensky12]

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We appreciate that so much!!

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Keep it rocking! I love this shit!

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8:38 When L.Jean Said I’m not marry to Pro-R I was Waiting For Him To Say She Just My Side Bitch 😂😂😂🤣

[@HelpMeDevvon]

Lmfaoo

[@emptytombprod]

13:00 choosing "COLLECT ALL AND SAVE" in Ableton solves this issue.. as long as you don't go moving file paths afterward.

[@adxtyamxshra]

Mad content, very informative! Quick question, what headphones are those?

[@GoLambeau]

If I'm recording the vocals for the artist myself then I'm using that Virtual Mix Rack and it's definitely gonna be a compressor from that rack that the vocals will run through before the EQ. Now if someone sends me stems to mix a record they recorded elsewhere, I'm definitely doing the same thing Devon said. EQ out the issues first

[@JarardKenneth]

18:23 If I do throw a reverb on vocal track directly, its going to be as a vocal throw but I've only done that a couple of times but it turned out great.

[@HelpMeDevvon]

Yea it’s something I’ve recently been a big fan of for a cool effect

[@bryantlroeback3287]

Have you guys tried seventh heaven professional or slate verbsuite classics reverbs??? Those have the bricasti reverb emulation. I think those should be included.

[@sharokeen]

this is game changing boys!

[@SoskiiiOfficial]

Pro Tools is a game changer 🔥

[@ecorduna]

I forgot I have CLA Epic. Thanks for reminding me. Lol

[@nickpafundi9650]

Amazing podcast man!! Binging it, can’t wait for more. Would be dope if ya made it a bit longer!! So sick either way, keep up the good work

[@KBlakK]

Love this approach to gear talk!!! Subscribed from the beginning conversation!!! I can't believe y'all didn't like Reason at all!!! Maybe the interface is more old school because it's modeled after a brick and mortar studio. I'd love for you guys to take a deep dive into it!!!

[@CaliDBN]

i dont like fruity reverb 2 , i like using fruity reverb . the first reverb they made , i get better results all thetime , ive never tried fabfilter pro r but after seeing that glimpse ima give it a try , i use valhalla from time to time but i always come back to fruity reverb

[@AveryMarcelOfficial]

Love these podcasts cuz it makes learning fun in a way, when it comes to audio engineering lol

[@djsilent01]

Y'all should check out the Seventh Heaven Reverb.. Its SUPER clean. Its based off of the Bricasti 7

[@larellofficial]

Ngl. This podcast is Lit. 🙌🏾

[@HelpMeDevvon]

We appreciate u not lying 😎

[@mookeymontana]

It always depends on the vocal

[@phillipypakasonofthelight3757]

Great Podcast! Logic does have that good look lol but I think all of them are unique in their own way. I make my beats in MPC2 & Record in Studio One. Can you guys talk about the benefits of using 2 compressors on vocals and do your prefer it

[@v3zMedia]

1 compressor is fast to take care of specific words that are peeky. The other is to level the entire take helping it fit into the mix better.

[@phillipypakasonofthelight3757]

@@v3zMediaThanks 👍🏽

[@EMG_JA]

Thats game right here sometimes if the recording is super dynamic you can add a 3rd comp

[@BossAtwork69]

Lexicon reverb should be among the top 3 👈

[@THEFUTURESOUNDBEAT]

lexicon hell no

[@sarklimt]

i love pro tools coz pro tools is the only daw which have audio suite but i used fl too

[@lukashiu2524]

he said ion want no fruity reeeeverb on my vocal 😂😂😂😂😂

[@bboymac84]

It’s crazy how focused we are when ladies aren’t distracting us lol

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Nice Episode. And let LJ know that Raum is just the German Spelling for Room. Just like Maschine is the German Spelling for Machine. They are German Company, based and founded in Berlin. 😉

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And btw. If you say 'Ruhm' it sounds like Room but it means Fame in German...😅

[@Reggi_Sample]

CLA epic is F-in amazing. Being honest, who is REALLY going to spend the time to set 4 different verb and delay buses going into each other? We're far too lazy for that. The presets are fire too

[@Barrelz9MM]

Shift + k brings up the keyboard midi keyboard in pro tools

[@HelpMeDevvon]

Thank you!!

[@Barrelz9MM]

@@HelpMeDevvon np anytime i know tons of commands have 20 yrs experience in pro tools

[@DamnCam83]

Where y’all based at? I’m finna move there, join the podcast, and represent Studio One. Y’all not finna keep getting away with the slander!!! 😂

[@HelpMeDevvon]

NEW YORK!!

[@DamnCam83]

@@HelpMeDevvon dang, I was hoping you’d say Atlanta or something close. Turns out y’all are finna keep getting away with the slander. 😂

[@TrizzyNGNR_]

This topic is A1! 🔥🔥

[@subzerobeats5217]

Fruity Reverb is fire and LuxeVerb is legendary

[@xxspinzzxx]

How come no one talks about ableton max live. Y’all talking about stock plugins but forgot you can engineer your own in max for live

[@HelpMeDevvon]

We ll loook into that

[@BOMBERPALMER]

how do you feel about the slate digital reverb?

[@HelpMeDevvon]

I haven’t tried it out yet but I got a feeling it’s fire 🙏🏽

[@courijones1317]

This was dope!!!

[@filsonbeatz777]

Yoo when y'all gonna put a cubase presentative on 😅 we here too @HMD

[@mrmorpheus9707]

NICE.... what guitar pack was tho tho

[@ZAY________]

I wish this podcast was a daily podcast like the breakfast club

[@selormblanksonjnr3877]

FL Studio has a convolution reverb

[@prod.kulturedakid7157]

Bro I love the podcast foreal

[@HelpMeDevvon]

Every Wednesday!!

[@lilwombat]

Diva default is beautiful because it's not the init saw

[@bryantlroeback3287]

WONDER IF YOU EVER USED PRS SUPERMODEL GUITARS IN WAVES BY PAUL REED SMITH, THE GUITAR COMPANY? IT'S FIYA! MANY PLAYABLE EFFECTS FOR ALMOST ANY TYPE OF GUITAR.

[@ANTspiration]

Man I would love to hash it up with you guys. None of my friends are engineers! Lol

[@bangubw736]

Do any of these dudes mix other genres besides Hip-hop and RnB?

[@Leviticus9687]

What about mix bus?

[@HelpMeDevvon]

Of course that makes total sense!

[@mookeymontana]

S1 is the BEST

[@Windy_lvy]

I think it looks freshh

[@mookeymontana]

@@Windy_lvy yeah it’s straight on the look but it’s for the master not vocals on my opinion

[@sunnyjohnlouis4843]

Bro y’all gotta check out and review Luna

[@alexisbangin]

So its yes or no please

[@gregvento1833]

What about an emt140?

[@benjithagamer]

Y are the episodes only 30mins

[@ILoveTelecasters]

Yes

[@olaegbeolasubomi2379]

My favourite podcast

[@pacinoslimthedrumpadpapii7853]

Got me wanting to switch from Valhalla to the Pro-R 🤔

[@joegez7]

Don’t fall for the look bro 😂

[@tymoni3606]

It’s not worth the money lol. I believe it’s like 200$ for that one plug-in but Valhalla is great and is affordable

[@SvperSlickX]

Tc 8210 is probably the best reverb there is

[@jrjr3754]

How to get perfect timing when recording on 2 track

[@mookeymontana]

Nun of the other DAWS have audiosuite like Protools that shuts all the other down

[@Leviticus9687]

Yea the Boiz get it 💪💯🤙

[@HelpMeDevvon]

We back!!!!

[@nobodyspecialmusic]

You gotta change your color themes and shxt on Studio One. I use it and I've definitely seen uglier lmao

[@shakirsimssr.2285]

Reason is the best looking easy😂😂😂

[@herealbutler]

Teddy Riley uses Studio One *drops mic*

[@drdeditz5495]

mans got the audacity to diss audacity 🐐

[@joshcoxmusic]

Waves gtr is terrible compared to guitar rig BUT the waves prs model amps are actually pretty good tho!

[@bryantlroeback3287]

IN MY EXPERIENCE. PLUGIN CHAIN ORDER DEFINITELY MATTERS. ALSO DEPENDING ON SONG AND VOCAL TYPE OR INSTRUMENT TYPE, THE CHAIN CAN CHANGE. IT'S NOT GOOD TO COPY CHAINS ALWAYS FOR ALL VOCALS OR INSTRUMENTS. BETTER TO BUILD THEM ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

[@thestreetdisciple3955]

lexicon 480l users where yall at?

[@danya144]

🔥🔥🔥

[@mixedbydread8210]

don't sleep on that fruity convolution reverb either ableton can downsample w redux (stock)

[@JMissy205PAGE]

This is good.

[@rosegoldenbeats7960]

CLA epic is the GOAT

[@GladysGrace001]

Stop hating on S1.😮

[@DJASSMASTER710]

Ableton>>>

[@kam3137]

Auto tune after compression

[@kobbyampofo]

U can definitely downsample in ableton

[@yunghommie8658]

Pro tools all the way

[@HelpMeDevvon]

Finally a pro tools person!!!

[@djjimmskee6822]

Yesirrrrr

[@lilian896]

Why use a plugin to pan?

[@HelpMeDevvon]

Check out a plugin called brauer motion!

[@xxspinzzxx]

I’M NOT MARRIED TO THE PRO-R!!!!😂

[@BossAtwork69]

Devon bruhh stop spending so much on hardware. Get the latest Komplete 14 Ultimate Collectors Edition for 1,499$. That would be more than enough for your entire career 👏

[@HelpMeDevvon]

Bro I only have 2 pieces of outboard gear that’s it lol

[@watch76]

@@HelpMeDevvon Keep doing what you do cousin… we appreciate your experimenting on our pockets behalf… through differing paths we are all trying to get to the same place!

[@WilliamDaProducer1989]

Put any program in front of me I'm gone run it

[@THEFUTURESOUNDBEAT]

oh yeah you should use FLP lol

[@mr.thurman4637]

audacity is baby protools

[@bryantlroeback3287]

STEREO IMAGING PLUGINS SHOULD NOT BE USED FIRST IN CHAIN IN MOST CASES.

[@mogrizzly49311]

U need Reason and Logic representation…

[@jaybeatsmrvibes]

Fruity Reverb is trash . Pro R is best 🔥🔥🔥

[@shakirsimssr.2285]

Nothing clunky about reason stoppit

[@ayoslimthaproducer4828]

Studio one def doesn't look old.. protools is the ugliest daw ever

[@50bandzent40]

Ableton is trash looking tho, Logic x pro is the best looking DAW

[@bantilan3065]

No Man! S1 is not old! Do y'all have project page? Drop and drop plugin? Plugin nap? Stop playing man! S1 6 coming thou. @help me devvon

[@emptytombprod]

13:00 choosing "COLLECT ALL AND SAVE" in Ableton solves this issue.. as long as you don't go moving file paths afterward.

[@pacinoslimthedrumpadpapii7853]

Got me wanting to switch from Valhalla to the Pro-R 🤔

[@THEFUTURESOUNDBEAT]

dont do it 😁😁😂

[@doubleahitmusic]

Me too! It sounds a lot better than I thought.

[@HelpMeDevvon]

Bruh that pro r is insane

[@billciphertoolfan]

same