Love this strategy! I’ve modified it a bit by bumping the lay bet up to $150 and the hard way 4/10 to a quarter. That way if that hard way hits it pays a quarter with the hard 4/10 paying $175.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters2 жыл бұрын
Thanks David
@nevadanlv54693 жыл бұрын
Hey $$$Shot! Lost too much money on randoms, now only bet 1 or 2 on a full table $12 on 6&8.I rather bet it on myself or someone like your crew, where I can accept my loss. You must always remind yourself why do I practice so much if I'm going to bet it on the chicken feeders. Good Luck!
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
I’m learning how to have the patience like you. Sometimes no bet is the best bet on randoms.
@susancita65508 ай бұрын
Love this lesson! You teach it so clearly. Thank you!❤
@HawaiiCrapsShooters8 ай бұрын
You're welcome.
@AdrianChairez03773 жыл бұрын
I'll watch this a few more times to remember these
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
Practice makes perfect.
@paulroberts1799Күн бұрын
Can you lay the 4 on the come out or does the point have to be established?
@HawaiiCrapsShootersКүн бұрын
Yes you can lay
@CrapsHawaii3 жыл бұрын
Great explanation of the strategy….for sure no drinking while playing. 🎲👍
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
Bloody Mary ok in the morning. Lol
@CrapsHawaii3 жыл бұрын
I no someone who has that in place of coffee & that get plenty hats. Lol jk
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
@@CrapsHawaii 😂
@juankulgai11503 жыл бұрын
Uncle Mel if I catch you in Vegas drinks are on me!
@CrapsHawaii3 жыл бұрын
Howzit Juan I’ll take you up on that offer. 🎲👍
@sophiethesloth3 жыл бұрын
Have you done a live roll video of these using all 3 systems that would be good to see
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
No I haven't yet.
@sophiethesloth3 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters I found a video on mrs hcs doing the system id like to see you doing it
@1-Mr.F.7 ай бұрын
Yes, Quarter Pounder for the Win! I use it often. Thank you for a great video. Just left Vegas, everything on the strip is min $25 except a small window early in the day. I need to adapt this for $25 tables.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters7 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching
@chefdice3 жыл бұрын
Mahalo for the strategy $shot I'll try that tomorrow at south point with your first HCS private table
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
Sounds good. Hope the Dice is Nice.
@dice-city13863 жыл бұрын
Very clean and clear explanation ,,,,, you only do this with other shooting what about when you shooting?
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
I’ll be sharing the strategy I use on myself in a future video.
@davetesta2797 Жыл бұрын
@HawaiiCrapsShooters can I get the link to the strategy you use on yourself or at least the title to search up? Let me know, thank you!
@jasch697 Жыл бұрын
Great vid, HCS! Question: what do you do when shooter opens with an easy 4? Do you continue with the Qtr Lb w/ EZ and put more $$ at risk?
@HawaiiCrapsShooters Жыл бұрын
It’s up to you and your bankroll
@jeffvolvo84693 жыл бұрын
Got introduced to your channel through Color Up. Enjoying all this content, been practicing this strategy online, seems solid for longer time at tables. May the dice be nice! Mahalo!
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
Mahalo Jeff. Thank you for supporting our channel as well. Jeremy from Color up iis a great guy.
@MrFlashcubes2 жыл бұрын
Same here love it
@victordelmastro82643 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bryan.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome Victor
@ALL4SCUBA052 жыл бұрын
Placing the 4 Inside #’s require THREE hits to almost recoup your bets(just $2 short of your $44) Placing the 6 numbers requires 4 or 5 hits to recover your $64 depending on how many 4/10 hits you get.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters2 жыл бұрын
That’s true
@doubleup2catchup3 жыл бұрын
Love it! Can do you a quick video for a $15 and maybe $25 table?
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
I’ll be doing a $15 table video soon.
@vince93236 ай бұрын
@HawaiiCrapsShooters Question: After each point is hit and the puck goes off, could we also then use the same come out strategy of laying the 4 or 10 with the Hardway hedge again?? Try to roll that 7 again when the bets are off and just try to pick up some extra change here & there? Then immediately remove the lay and Hardway hedge after each new point is marked on the same shooter? This way we’re still active on every possible roll and pad the profits. Yeah? (I didn’t hear anything of the sort mentioned in the video)
@HawaiiCrapsShooters6 ай бұрын
Sure you can
@vince93236 ай бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters So then another question about the Quarter Pounder w/EZ: Let’s say we start our session, lay out our $ requirement for QP’er, get to Foundation, and find ourselves with, let’s say $50-$100 of profit on that shooter after the completion of their roll. Now, new shooter comes out and establishes the point. Here’s my primary question: Do we then need to come out with a *NEW* QP’er or can we just immediately set Foundation with our profits from the previous shooter? I’ve been playing with a new QP’er on each new shooter to then establish my Foundation and go from there, but I’m wondering if it’s optimal 🤔. I mean, I already have profits that I can immediately lay Foundation with and for each new shooter I’m putting out extra risk, all for the purpose of “getting to Foundation” when I already have the funds for Foundation. Does this make sense? Could you please shed some light on this? New QP’er for each new shooter or just immediately lay Foundation with profits?
@capnmorgandarts2 ай бұрын
@@vince9323I'm hoping he comes back and answers this question, as it's the same one that I have!!
@mwinters52 ай бұрын
@@vince9323 I would think that technically it's your bankroll so whatever makes sense to you. The goal is to play with house money so if you use some of that $100 winnings then your playing with house money. Why risk? If that bankroll goes back down to the money you bought in with then you do quarter pounder again.
@corymatsumiyavivalasvegas84883 жыл бұрын
Great strategy Mr. Moneyshot! For morning and daytime play... lol
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
😂
@MrFlashcubes Жыл бұрын
just a question... what if they do not have Hop bets ? like cruise ship I sail on do not have Hops so what the adjustments? Thanks
@HawaiiCrapsShooters Жыл бұрын
This strategy won’t work
@ProCraps3 жыл бұрын
Love this ... I especially like how you moved away from the $305 for one hit down to $165 for two hits. That's really thinking deeply about your exposure. I am torn on trusting 2 hits vs 1 hit for the random roller, but you're right about having that amount of money at risk, even if it's just one roll. Very much enjoy the super aggressive play on the come out, looking for that 7. That's wickedly creative. This one is going to be fun to roll out. I'd still go pineapple press on your across bet on a random shooter, though. The half press on your rolls, yep ... but I think a random roller needs your money back in the rack. I'm really feeling the backwards nature of your approach. I begin building every one of my "right side" strategy builds the same way. I start with deciding "what do I actually want to play" (like your $44 inside with aggressive pressing) and then I figure out what I need to do to earn that amount of money in 1 shot. I call it the "So That" method ... Do this bigger and riskier thing for one roll (or two) "so that" I can do what I really want to do, free of risk.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Feedback John. The good thing is this strategy can be easily tweaked to your suggestions.
@dandvd.4722 жыл бұрын
Good video Brian, I really like the quarter pounder with ease. I'm always afraid of that PSO. 😕 what do you think about $310 no4 for protection 🤔 or that defeats the purpose?
@kauboy7773 жыл бұрын
Nice strategy.....so basically you shift you risk to an easy 4 for 3 rolls and limit your losses on a PSO or 2 shaker baker.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Thanks GMoney
@RobertKalmowitz3 жыл бұрын
Very good information, thanks. Would you consider a don’t bet also?
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
I’m open to all suggestions. 👍
@henrypeterman392910 ай бұрын
What do you do if the table doesn't have hop bets?
@HawaiiCrapsShooters10 ай бұрын
Change strategy
@Eqnotalent3 жыл бұрын
How u compare the quarter pounder vs all across with horn? They are both the same, but the horn bet has a better “cheese”
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
Horn has better Cheese but across cost more in regards to initial investment.
@hothotpanpan66352 жыл бұрын
Very good Explanation 🤔
@HawaiiCrapsShooters2 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@sophiethesloth3 жыл бұрын
what kind of vig will you have to pay on the lay the 4 for 140 dollars, and what is PSO?
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
You pay the vig on your win which would be $70 so they will charge you $1 for every Quarter so $3 vig. PSO stands for Point Seven Out.
@anthonys66242 жыл бұрын
So we actually have some $5 tables here in AZ. I really like this strategy and I still think I would prefer to just play it at $10 for the easy math of it even if it is a $5 min. But was wondering how the math would work out for a $5 denom betting? - Come out, $10 H4, and is it $70 Lay 4? - Qtr Pounder, $30 on the 6/8, $17 on the field and $5 hopping the 5's? - Foundation, $22 inside and $1 each hard 4/10? Hope not to many questions. Still a newbie and just want to practice with the right numbers at home. I really like the strategies you have out and (minus the bankroll) think you and I would probably play alike.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters2 жыл бұрын
Sounds good
@capnmorgandarts2 ай бұрын
I did some math for a $5 table on the quarter pounder. It's not perfect, but place 6&8 for 30 each, 17 field, $3 each hopping the 5's. If you hit a 2, 5, or 12, you immediately pull everything down and go $22 inside (I have not yet given consideration to the hard ways, but will look into that strategy). If on a $10 table, I suggest going up an additional dollar each on hopping the fives, so you're at $6 each. This allows you to immediately drop to 44 inside if they hit a 2, 5, or 12 on the first roll, but it does slightly reduce your profit if they hit any combination of a 6, 8, or field in the first two rolls.
@mcchacho13 жыл бұрын
OK, could not resist my experience with this when I stopped in at the casino for a quick session on my way home from the mountains here in CO. I have been rolling this strategy on my practice table/rig with pretty good success. Though at times I think when you get the two hits on the quarter pounder with ease it might be better to rack the $50 and let the shooter roll out. I found that I lost most of the $50 once set up on the 44 inside. Last night I stopped in, put up the $140 on the 10 and $20 on the hard ten. Random rolled a 7 for a $47 winner. I was going to go into the 66 inside but said what the heck and put it back up. Random rolled a 7 again for a $47 winner. Being dumb, I went back up and lo and behold he rolls another 7. Now up $141 on the first three rolls. I don't go up again on the come out and he sets a point of 8. I know I should go straight to 66 inside, (all tables in CO are at least $15 minimum) but I want to play with the strategy and go to $165 quarter pounder with ease. Random rolls a 5, $40 winner. Random rolls a 5 again, $40 winner. I go to 66 inside and and he hits 4 point numbers which I collected $21 each on and did not press as I felt I had been really lucky and the 7 was coming. He rolled a couple of craps numbers and a soft 4 in between. Anyway, I was up just over $300 in 15 minutes, left a $25 tip for the crew and left. I'm sure it's going to work this way every time.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
Awesome MC. Thanks for sharing. Great win and in 15 min? Awesome!
@mcchacho13 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters yeah, it was right around dinner time and only 2 other players at the table. One guy was only playing the PL so the dice were moving.
@roughtrim3 жыл бұрын
Awesome $trategy...Aloha always!
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
Mahalo Roughtrim
@johnnyi21213 жыл бұрын
Great video...! When are we going to see the quadruple lux strategy?
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Johnny. LOL Quardruple Lux.
@markh86373 жыл бұрын
i actually think this is a great strategy also for when it's your own throw, two hits should be easy for most non random rollers.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
Yes, you could use it on yourself as well. Let me know how it goes.
@davidcooper70623 жыл бұрын
Cool video Bryan, solid advice.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
Thank you David
@roydomingo59923 жыл бұрын
good strategy money shot
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Roy
@sophiethesloth3 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering tinkering and thinking about a lower stake out for the quarter pound pay out ,you could go ,25 on field so that wins 25 ,then 48 on 6 and 8 that wins 56 minus the 25 from field that leaves 31 profit,but now actually leave the 5 blank..so thats lay out of 121
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
You could that just use a set that avoids the 5.
@sophiethesloth3 жыл бұрын
thats a big lay out on iron cross vs random rollers
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
Yes it is. Gotta have the bankroll
@juankulgai11503 жыл бұрын
You guys going Vegas in October? I was hoping to throw with the HCS crew and make some cheddar cheese!
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
No but we will be there in September
@sophiethesloth2 жыл бұрын
I have a question please Would this work for somebody who is scared to lay the 4 Go $25 on the dont pass and $5 or $6 on any 7 for the come out. The $10 on the 4 & 10 when on a point. It's just to try avoid that come out roll sniper
@HawaiiCrapsShooters2 жыл бұрын
The any 7 will bleed you slowly
@garyagunat98233 жыл бұрын
Mahalo for the that good strategy
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Waipahu King
@markadkins92902 жыл бұрын
Great stuff!
@HawaiiCrapsShooters2 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@rwhong3 жыл бұрын
love your vids money shot! a little unrelated - how many chips can fit in one players chip rack
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I didn’t ever tried counting. Lol
@texadonkey343 жыл бұрын
You explain this perfectly👍🎲🎲. I feel safer with a low limit table. Weekends are soo high with shooters drinking 🙉. Thank you for posting.🌺🌺
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kat. I try my best. Lol
@MARNSTERTV3 жыл бұрын
Great video and strategy Money Shot! Thanks for the breakdown and through explaining!
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mar
@davetesta2797 Жыл бұрын
Wow Brian, I wish I found this two years ago. This is really a bit of genius as David (from CQ) would say. I really agree with the logic in all phases. Limiting the exposure and loss of bankroll. The random rollers can really crush you fast. Even my own rolls when I’m on tilt lol. It requires a bit bigger bank roll but I think with about a $1,000 on a $10 game you should be pretty safe to play for a while. I tend to do a $500 bankroll when playing craps because I am pretty broke dick (as Alex from CQ is fond of saying) so I play a modified iron cross most times. It’s a 3 unit 5,6&8 or $15 & $18 set up and $15 field. Try to catch that early field roll and use that money to cover the 4,9&10 at $10 each and reduce my 5,6,8 back down to 2 units or $10 & $12. The next goal is to use any outside hits like 4,5,9&10 to press up 6&8 and try and catch a 6 or 8 at about $30, collect that which is $35 to my rack and now be out of the hand. It’s $66 if I’m not mistaken maximum exposure. Like I said, a broke dick strategy but I like it for the $500 bank roll on a $10 table. I love your entire hybrid strat with a $1,000 bankroll and I love how it is constant action every roll of the dice. You are awesome my friend! Mahalo 😃
@HawaiiCrapsShooters Жыл бұрын
Watch more of the videos
@davetesta2797 Жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters Hi Brian, thank you for taking the time to reply. You have so many great videos with well thought out strategies. Just in case I missed you saying in a recent video, can I ask you your favorite light side and dark side strategies at the moment and / or hybrid strategies. Probably difficult to say because it depends on the shooter… Let me rephrase, what is currently your favorite random shooter system if you were in Vegas today and what is your favorite “with the shooter” or betting on yourself strategy as of today? That way I can see which strategies are currently your favorite and ponder them also. Thanks so much!! Mahalo 🤘
@hawaiisrealestateagentresource Жыл бұрын
@@davetesta2797 I use the HPower Light switch now on randoms and I use the Split the Sisters on my own roll and controlled shooters
@jhonnyace94613 жыл бұрын
I love this strategy! What is your method of determining whether or not to play this on a random roller. How do qualify them? Thanks!
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
Hi Jhonny. Many ways to qualify a shooter but a simple one I use is on the come out roll you watch and observe if that shooter is a controlled shooter or a random. How they throw the dice will give you that info. If it’s a true random then I’ll wait to bet with a 3-5 count then start the strategy. I’ll have just the Lay 4 and the hard 4 set on the come out and during the qualifying period because the 7 is strong at all times. If I see it’s a controlled shooter then I’ll move to the quarter pounder. And then to my foundation. Hope this helps.
@nategonzales37753 жыл бұрын
Hey just subscribed and I like your style of teaching and explaining very awesome! Would this be a good strategy on a bubble and I’m fairly new to craps still, what is a 2 shaker baker? Lmao
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
Yes, definitely. 2 Shaker Baker is a roller who gets a point, rolls one more, then sevens out.
@glenthomason14283 жыл бұрын
I like this strategy, but when playing it out on my practice rig, I did manage to throw a soft 4 on the come out a couple of times. That will knock a hole in your session bankroll.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
Yes, you could try the 10 if that helps. Great thing is that you have the option.
@ryananthony46703 жыл бұрын
Like your strategies but one pso or easy 4 and my bankroll is shot
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
Any light side strategy will get killed by a PSO. LOL
@dice-city13862 жыл бұрын
Good strategy,,,
@HawaiiCrapsShooters2 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@shahmatsimplex41443 жыл бұрын
I try to have the table to myself or with other skilled shooters. At $10 table , If randoms shoot, then after the comeout , put a $10 dc and a buck on yo. If 7 ouch then thats most I can loose and to the next shooter. If it hits point and travels then I place same number as a hedge. if number hits, then I collect and put back 10 on dc. if 7 ouch, then I break even. Of course you have to remind dealers that bets always working. Its a minimal loss to break even while waiting till its your turn. Randoms will burn up your bankroll really fast if you play often, and you just have to suck it up on the occasion one gets on a long roll and you are missing out. Now if you play once in a while, have fun and bet whatever you like on any player. But if you are playing very frequently as a controlled shooter hoping to make money, then this is how I advise to play when you have forced action on a random roller.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
Great way to grind it out but you might as well do a no bet if the casino lets you. I’ll be sharing another strategy that you may like better. Stay tuned.
@shahmatsimplex41443 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters Awesome, looking forward too it.
@victordelmastro82643 жыл бұрын
Here are some of my thoughts: It's great that you are using lay bets for hedging your bets. However, I would like to suggest a different starting approach w/ the same basic result. Using the 6&8 place bets and a line bet with odds for hedging. I've noted an aversion to using line bets on your part even though they have phases (either the comeout or point cycle rolls) where they have an edge over the casino. So, instead of laying the 4 as a hedge, I would use don't line bets+ odds for the hedge. At a 10x free odds table, it keeps the HA down.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
Great ideas Victor. I’ll look into it.
@capnmorgandarts2 ай бұрын
The killer for this strategy is they establish the point with a soft 4 and then PSO.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters2 ай бұрын
Every strategy has a hole
@AmericaTown3 жыл бұрын
What does it mean to qualify the shooter?
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
Watch my video The Qualifier
@AmericaTown3 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters thank you
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
@@AmericaTown You’re welcome
@huynguyen52932 жыл бұрын
What would be the betting ratio for the quarter pounder strategy if you're at a 15 dollar table?
@HawaiiCrapsShooters2 жыл бұрын
The same.
@georgesockett33163 жыл бұрын
thats the iron cross minus i sent in to let it roll..you made a couple modifications like hopping 5 which you dont need
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
I filmed this before Rick released his video. I agree it does have it similarities
@georgesockett33163 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters oh wow..you are far behind..Rick showed it 3 months ago
@dalemoore79113 жыл бұрын
Very good. I’d like to see this for a $15 table.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dale
@mcchacho13 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters I think I would just play it the same way and add $16 dollars from my rack to the $50 win to get to $66 across. Increasing the bets for the quarter pounder with ease would add more risk in my mind than ponying up the extra $16 to get to $66 across.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
@@mcchacho1 That’s smart too. I thought the same. Less risk and one more hit.
@annieblach5331 Жыл бұрын
You can also play the one hit iron cross by hopping the 5 for $7
@HawaiiCrapsShooters Жыл бұрын
You are right
@brauliogonzalez2362 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t you hop the 4s on the come out for 15 and that wins you 150 if the 4 is hit?
@HawaiiCrapsShooters2 жыл бұрын
It will cost you more in the long run
@jimklemens50183 жыл бұрын
Recoup.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@georgesidhom82153 жыл бұрын
Get em
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
Thanks George.
@sophiethesloth3 жыл бұрын
With higher table minimums in vegas now I hear,you may need more than 44 across maybe need triple quater pounder 3 wins then take that 75 for 15 on 5&9 18 on 6&8 so 66 across profit $9 Or if you hit a come out 7 for $47 profit then you just need 1 quarter pound hit to start the $66 across. $66 across wins pay $21 :) Then options maybe if hit a 5 or 10 press up $5 on each keep $11 or even any win of $21 add a dollar and press all by 1 unit 🤔 So all wins pay $28 then go from there :) 😃 obviously good luck will be needed
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
That’s a great strategy too. I’ll try it out. Thanks Scott.
@sophiethesloth3 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters cool :) be good see a video on that
@sophiethesloth3 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters great videos by the way im new and enjoying going through them. So it would be Stage 1 ..lay the 4 for $140 and $20 on hard 4 as your hybrid states. Every 7 wins $67 after the vig Keeping on that until you make a point hopefully a few sevens rolled ( set those dice for controlled more chance of a 7 ;) Stage 2..if you won $67 from a seven in the come out roll go $15 on 5&8 $18 on 6&8 Save the $1 ready When you get 1 hit winning $21 press them all up 1 unit so total of $22. Then away we go all this is house money now hoping to build some money :) Ermm if not hit a 7 in come out then it needs to be your quarter pounder with cheese 🧀 $60 on 6&8 $35 field Then hop that 5 for $10 or do you risk leaving 5 blank ? 5 rolls you lose $35 7 rolls you lose it all. If you don't cover the 5 you need 2 hits field or 6&8 pays $35 x 2 = $70 that covers that $66 across. And you can even go then $2 on hard 4 & hard 10.
@freewayrail57322 жыл бұрын
Ok love the strategy but am I missing something but call me crazy you can literally go $25 greens on each number and be cheaper than the quarter pounder with ease no need to hop anything, hell 6 and 8 can be $30 ea and it's still cheaper I'm lost ???
@HawaiiCrapsShooters2 жыл бұрын
You can get out of the hand at the beginning.
@jimklemens50183 жыл бұрын
Hedging your $140 Lay bet on the 4 with a $20 Hard 4 bet will cost you money in the long run. It would make more sense to make a $100 Lay bet on the 4 without a hedge.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
The hard 4 doesn’t go down unless the easy 4 comes which is 5%.
@jimklemens50183 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters The house edge on a Lay bet on the 4 is 2.44%. The house edge on a Hard 4 is 11.11%.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
@@jimklemens5018 I’m talking about dice probability not house edge.
@jimklemens50183 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters Dice probability says that you will lose more money when you make a Lay bet on the 4 and make a Hard 4 bet at the same time.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
@@jimklemens5018 Jim. It’s a temporary protection. It’s not up there the entire time
@kanakattack1563 жыл бұрын
Neva use this, used the Q-pounder (modified) with a lay 4 or 10 for $100 on random shooter first roll.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
Good adjustment.
@stevee5080 Жыл бұрын
what casinos have $10 minimums nowadays?
@HawaiiCrapsShooters Жыл бұрын
I know Ellis Island and the Grand in downtown has $5 tables
@stevee5080 Жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters Thanks bro! i am so limited in the casinos i've played. i went to GVR after watching your vids. i've been there a total of 3 times and won all 3 times! thanks for the entertainment and hopefully one day i can crash your table... lol. probably the closest i got was running into kerrie at bally's (horseshoe now) after her and the ladies finished their rolls.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters Жыл бұрын
@@stevee5080 Nice wins. Keep it up.
@jbcraps3 жыл бұрын
Yes sir, let me have some Extra Cheese with that buddy....lol
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
Extra Cheeze! Yessir! Your chip is on the way
@JT-uf3pr3 жыл бұрын
Best bet is to buy the 4 and 10 and go against the 7 . 6 combinations against 6 combinations .
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
Hard to go against the 7 when it's a cold table.
@JT-uf3pr3 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters no such thing as a cold table . No such thing as controlling the dice neither . It's all luck .
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
@@JT-uf3pr Gotcha
@JT-uf3pr3 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters you can set the dice , drop them 2 inches and the outcome will be random. Setting the dice and throwing them 4+ feet will be random. Cold and hot tables are just the luck . Going against the 7 on a cold table buying the 4 and 10 is basically like flipping a coin. I've had great success setting the dice with a 4/10 set with a backspin . Lucky I guess 🤣.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
@@JT-uf3pr luck is a factor in anything. I’d rather be lucky. Lol
@goodgamewellpaid56522 жыл бұрын
Watching you from the Philippines. Your videos helped me alot. Won about 40k on dice setting betting strategies.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters2 жыл бұрын
Wow. That’s crazy. Nice win
@ProCraps3 жыл бұрын
Don't 🥃 🍻 and 🎲🎲 on this strategy.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
Lol. Some strategies it would be ok to get drunk on but this is not one fo them.
@ProCraps3 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters I actually have a few "out to party with my friends" strategies that I have in my toolbox, solely so I can go out and not have to pay attention sometimes.
@marcain1233 жыл бұрын
Redo with 15 dollars for us who struggle with math please
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
Looks like I’ll have to with all these requests. Will do.
@marcain1233 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters thank you. Blame it on vegas and people playing these ridiculous minimums haha
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
@@marcain123 I know right.
@rbjackpotslots484211 ай бұрын
Proved last night $44 inside is losing lol looking for something better as a new player
@HawaiiCrapsShooters11 ай бұрын
Lot's of strats to choose from on this channel
@rbjackpotslots484211 ай бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters love your channel with the game play in the casinos, got me interested in playing, and setting. Unfortunately Wendover NV where we play does not allow setting ☹️
@HawaiiCrapsShooters11 ай бұрын
Ah maybe when you go to Vegas. Thanks for watching@@rbjackpotslots4842
@kodiak536kodiak5363 жыл бұрын
Only problem I see is that the strategy assumes the "best case" scenario of the random shooters... Even controlled shooter throw a point and 7 but, with less chance of doing so...still, it happens. I have seen many random Shooters in Vegas that made a fire bet! ALL 6 points! Rare but, it did happen. I bet minimal amount, after "studying" the table and Shooters, to determine what numbers are coming out more with some consistency before any of my money get on the table. Believe me, blah, I tried almost all of these strategies and found NONE that actually worked well enough to be tried again. My best strategy is observation, assessment and gut feelings based on what I see happening on the table. You can have a master degree on mathematics and still loose your butt on crap table😁 Good insight though.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
You’re absolutely right Kodiak but that is just what makes Craps fun and Challenging. If there was no chance to lose then then no craps tables would be in the casinos. The love of the challenge is what keeps me going but I agree with you, observation, timing and using the right strategy at the right time is key. Thanks for your comment
@fortunatusnine20123 жыл бұрын
🤔👍
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
🤙🏾
@davidwong68063 жыл бұрын
Instead of this bet, why not simply bet a $12 three way 7? You'll win $52 and accomplish your $50 goal with a whole lot less dough.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters3 жыл бұрын
Yes but if you don’t hit your out $12
@chrisbrodbeck19612 жыл бұрын
Iron cross with a dark 5 ..
@chrisbrodbeck19612 жыл бұрын
my felt doesn't have the hop bets yet.. I just bought the iron on...