My Best Craps Strategy for Random Rollers: The HCS Hybrid

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Hawaii Craps Shooters

Hawaii Craps Shooters

Күн бұрын

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@davidwalter8816
@davidwalter8816 2 жыл бұрын
Love this strategy! I’ve modified it a bit by bumping the lay bet up to $150 and the hard way 4/10 to a quarter. That way if that hard way hits it pays a quarter with the hard 4/10 paying $175.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks David
@nevadanlv5469
@nevadanlv5469 3 жыл бұрын
Hey $$$Shot! Lost too much money on randoms, now only bet 1 or 2 on a full table $12 on 6&8.I rather bet it on myself or someone like your crew, where I can accept my loss. You must always remind yourself why do I practice so much if I'm going to bet it on the chicken feeders. Good Luck!
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
I’m learning how to have the patience like you. Sometimes no bet is the best bet on randoms.
@susancita6550
@susancita6550 8 ай бұрын
Love this lesson! You teach it so clearly. Thank you!❤
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 8 ай бұрын
You're welcome.
@AdrianChairez0377
@AdrianChairez0377 3 жыл бұрын
I'll watch this a few more times to remember these
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Practice makes perfect.
@paulroberts1799
@paulroberts1799 Күн бұрын
Can you lay the 4 on the come out or does the point have to be established?
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters Күн бұрын
Yes you can lay
@CrapsHawaii
@CrapsHawaii 3 жыл бұрын
Great explanation of the strategy….for sure no drinking while playing. 🎲👍
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Bloody Mary ok in the morning. Lol
@CrapsHawaii
@CrapsHawaii 3 жыл бұрын
I no someone who has that in place of coffee & that get plenty hats. Lol jk
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
@@CrapsHawaii 😂
@juankulgai1150
@juankulgai1150 3 жыл бұрын
Uncle Mel if I catch you in Vegas drinks are on me!
@CrapsHawaii
@CrapsHawaii 3 жыл бұрын
Howzit Juan I’ll take you up on that offer. 🎲👍
@sophiethesloth
@sophiethesloth 3 жыл бұрын
Have you done a live roll video of these using all 3 systems that would be good to see
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
No I haven't yet.
@sophiethesloth
@sophiethesloth 3 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters I found a video on mrs hcs doing the system id like to see you doing it
@1-Mr.F.
@1-Mr.F. 7 ай бұрын
Yes, Quarter Pounder for the Win! I use it often. Thank you for a great video. Just left Vegas, everything on the strip is min $25 except a small window early in the day. I need to adapt this for $25 tables.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching
@chefdice
@chefdice 3 жыл бұрын
Mahalo for the strategy $shot I'll try that tomorrow at south point with your first HCS private table
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds good. Hope the Dice is Nice.
@dice-city1386
@dice-city1386 3 жыл бұрын
Very clean and clear explanation ,,,,, you only do this with other shooting what about when you shooting?
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll be sharing the strategy I use on myself in a future video.
@davetesta2797
@davetesta2797 Жыл бұрын
@HawaiiCrapsShooters can I get the link to the strategy you use on yourself or at least the title to search up? Let me know, thank you!
@jasch697
@jasch697 Жыл бұрын
Great vid, HCS! Question: what do you do when shooter opens with an easy 4? Do you continue with the Qtr Lb w/ EZ and put more $$ at risk?
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters Жыл бұрын
It’s up to you and your bankroll
@jeffvolvo8469
@jeffvolvo8469 3 жыл бұрын
Got introduced to your channel through Color Up. Enjoying all this content, been practicing this strategy online, seems solid for longer time at tables. May the dice be nice! Mahalo!
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Mahalo Jeff. Thank you for supporting our channel as well. Jeremy from Color up iis a great guy.
@MrFlashcubes
@MrFlashcubes 2 жыл бұрын
Same here love it
@victordelmastro8264
@victordelmastro8264 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bryan.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome Victor
@ALL4SCUBA05
@ALL4SCUBA05 2 жыл бұрын
Placing the 4 Inside #’s require THREE hits to almost recoup your bets(just $2 short of your $44) Placing the 6 numbers requires 4 or 5 hits to recover your $64 depending on how many 4/10 hits you get.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
That’s true
@doubleup2catchup
@doubleup2catchup 3 жыл бұрын
Love it! Can do you a quick video for a $15 and maybe $25 table?
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll be doing a $15 table video soon.
@vince9323
@vince9323 6 ай бұрын
⁠​​⁠@HawaiiCrapsShooters Question: After each point is hit and the puck goes off, could we also then use the same come out strategy of laying the 4 or 10 with the Hardway hedge again?? Try to roll that 7 again when the bets are off and just try to pick up some extra change here & there? Then immediately remove the lay and Hardway hedge after each new point is marked on the same shooter? This way we’re still active on every possible roll and pad the profits. Yeah? (I didn’t hear anything of the sort mentioned in the video)
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 6 ай бұрын
Sure you can
@vince9323
@vince9323 6 ай бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters So then another question about the Quarter Pounder w/EZ: Let’s say we start our session, lay out our $ requirement for QP’er, get to Foundation, and find ourselves with, let’s say $50-$100 of profit on that shooter after the completion of their roll. Now, new shooter comes out and establishes the point. Here’s my primary question: Do we then need to come out with a *NEW* QP’er or can we just immediately set Foundation with our profits from the previous shooter? I’ve been playing with a new QP’er on each new shooter to then establish my Foundation and go from there, but I’m wondering if it’s optimal 🤔. I mean, I already have profits that I can immediately lay Foundation with and for each new shooter I’m putting out extra risk, all for the purpose of “getting to Foundation” when I already have the funds for Foundation. Does this make sense? Could you please shed some light on this? New QP’er for each new shooter or just immediately lay Foundation with profits?
@capnmorgandarts
@capnmorgandarts 2 ай бұрын
​@@vince9323I'm hoping he comes back and answers this question, as it's the same one that I have!!
@mwinters5
@mwinters5 2 ай бұрын
@@vince9323 I would think that technically it's your bankroll so whatever makes sense to you. The goal is to play with house money so if you use some of that $100 winnings then your playing with house money. Why risk? If that bankroll goes back down to the money you bought in with then you do quarter pounder again.
@corymatsumiyavivalasvegas8488
@corymatsumiyavivalasvegas8488 3 жыл бұрын
Great strategy Mr. Moneyshot! For morning and daytime play... lol
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
😂
@MrFlashcubes
@MrFlashcubes Жыл бұрын
just a question... what if they do not have Hop bets ? like cruise ship I sail on do not have Hops so what the adjustments? Thanks
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters Жыл бұрын
This strategy won’t work
@ProCraps
@ProCraps 3 жыл бұрын
Love this ... I especially like how you moved away from the $305 for one hit down to $165 for two hits. That's really thinking deeply about your exposure. I am torn on trusting 2 hits vs 1 hit for the random roller, but you're right about having that amount of money at risk, even if it's just one roll. Very much enjoy the super aggressive play on the come out, looking for that 7. That's wickedly creative. This one is going to be fun to roll out. I'd still go pineapple press on your across bet on a random shooter, though. The half press on your rolls, yep ... but I think a random roller needs your money back in the rack. I'm really feeling the backwards nature of your approach. I begin building every one of my "right side" strategy builds the same way. I start with deciding "what do I actually want to play" (like your $44 inside with aggressive pressing) and then I figure out what I need to do to earn that amount of money in 1 shot. I call it the "So That" method ... Do this bigger and riskier thing for one roll (or two) "so that" I can do what I really want to do, free of risk.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Feedback John. The good thing is this strategy can be easily tweaked to your suggestions.
@dandvd.472
@dandvd.472 2 жыл бұрын
Good video Brian, I really like the quarter pounder with ease. I'm always afraid of that PSO. 😕 what do you think about $310 no4 for protection 🤔 or that defeats the purpose?
@kauboy777
@kauboy777 3 жыл бұрын
Nice strategy.....so basically you shift you risk to an easy 4 for 3 rolls and limit your losses on a PSO or 2 shaker baker.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Thanks GMoney
@RobertKalmowitz
@RobertKalmowitz 3 жыл бұрын
Very good information, thanks. Would you consider a don’t bet also?
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
I’m open to all suggestions. 👍
@henrypeterman3929
@henrypeterman3929 10 ай бұрын
What do you do if the table doesn't have hop bets?
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 10 ай бұрын
Change strategy
@Eqnotalent
@Eqnotalent 3 жыл бұрын
How u compare the quarter pounder vs all across with horn? They are both the same, but the horn bet has a better “cheese”
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Horn has better Cheese but across cost more in regards to initial investment.
@hothotpanpan6635
@hothotpanpan6635 2 жыл бұрын
Very good Explanation 🤔
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@sophiethesloth
@sophiethesloth 3 жыл бұрын
what kind of vig will you have to pay on the lay the 4 for 140 dollars, and what is PSO?
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
You pay the vig on your win which would be $70 so they will charge you $1 for every Quarter so $3 vig. PSO stands for Point Seven Out.
@anthonys6624
@anthonys6624 2 жыл бұрын
So we actually have some $5 tables here in AZ. I really like this strategy and I still think I would prefer to just play it at $10 for the easy math of it even if it is a $5 min. But was wondering how the math would work out for a $5 denom betting? - Come out, $10 H4, and is it $70 Lay 4? - Qtr Pounder, $30 on the 6/8, $17 on the field and $5 hopping the 5's? - Foundation, $22 inside and $1 each hard 4/10? Hope not to many questions. Still a newbie and just want to practice with the right numbers at home. I really like the strategies you have out and (minus the bankroll) think you and I would probably play alike.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds good
@capnmorgandarts
@capnmorgandarts 2 ай бұрын
I did some math for a $5 table on the quarter pounder. It's not perfect, but place 6&8 for 30 each, 17 field, $3 each hopping the 5's. If you hit a 2, 5, or 12, you immediately pull everything down and go $22 inside (I have not yet given consideration to the hard ways, but will look into that strategy). If on a $10 table, I suggest going up an additional dollar each on hopping the fives, so you're at $6 each. This allows you to immediately drop to 44 inside if they hit a 2, 5, or 12 on the first roll, but it does slightly reduce your profit if they hit any combination of a 6, 8, or field in the first two rolls.
@mcchacho1
@mcchacho1 3 жыл бұрын
OK, could not resist my experience with this when I stopped in at the casino for a quick session on my way home from the mountains here in CO. I have been rolling this strategy on my practice table/rig with pretty good success. Though at times I think when you get the two hits on the quarter pounder with ease it might be better to rack the $50 and let the shooter roll out. I found that I lost most of the $50 once set up on the 44 inside. Last night I stopped in, put up the $140 on the 10 and $20 on the hard ten. Random rolled a 7 for a $47 winner. I was going to go into the 66 inside but said what the heck and put it back up. Random rolled a 7 again for a $47 winner. Being dumb, I went back up and lo and behold he rolls another 7. Now up $141 on the first three rolls. I don't go up again on the come out and he sets a point of 8. I know I should go straight to 66 inside, (all tables in CO are at least $15 minimum) but I want to play with the strategy and go to $165 quarter pounder with ease. Random rolls a 5, $40 winner. Random rolls a 5 again, $40 winner. I go to 66 inside and and he hits 4 point numbers which I collected $21 each on and did not press as I felt I had been really lucky and the 7 was coming. He rolled a couple of craps numbers and a soft 4 in between. Anyway, I was up just over $300 in 15 minutes, left a $25 tip for the crew and left. I'm sure it's going to work this way every time.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome MC. Thanks for sharing. Great win and in 15 min? Awesome!
@mcchacho1
@mcchacho1 3 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters yeah, it was right around dinner time and only 2 other players at the table. One guy was only playing the PL so the dice were moving.
@roughtrim
@roughtrim 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome $trategy...Aloha always!
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Mahalo Roughtrim
@johnnyi2121
@johnnyi2121 3 жыл бұрын
Great video...! When are we going to see the quadruple lux strategy?
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Johnny. LOL Quardruple Lux.
@markh8637
@markh8637 3 жыл бұрын
i actually think this is a great strategy also for when it's your own throw, two hits should be easy for most non random rollers.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, you could use it on yourself as well. Let me know how it goes.
@davidcooper7062
@davidcooper7062 3 жыл бұрын
Cool video Bryan, solid advice.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you David
@roydomingo5992
@roydomingo5992 3 жыл бұрын
good strategy money shot
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Roy
@sophiethesloth
@sophiethesloth 3 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering tinkering and thinking about a lower stake out for the quarter pound pay out ,you could go ,25 on field so that wins 25 ,then 48 on 6 and 8 that wins 56 minus the 25 from field that leaves 31 profit,but now actually leave the 5 blank..so thats lay out of 121
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
You could that just use a set that avoids the 5.
@sophiethesloth
@sophiethesloth 3 жыл бұрын
thats a big lay out on iron cross vs random rollers
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it is. Gotta have the bankroll
@juankulgai1150
@juankulgai1150 3 жыл бұрын
You guys going Vegas in October? I was hoping to throw with the HCS crew and make some cheddar cheese!
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
No but we will be there in September
@sophiethesloth
@sophiethesloth 2 жыл бұрын
I have a question please Would this work for somebody who is scared to lay the 4 Go $25 on the dont pass and $5 or $6 on any 7 for the come out. The $10 on the 4 & 10 when on a point. It's just to try avoid that come out roll sniper
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
The any 7 will bleed you slowly
@garyagunat9823
@garyagunat9823 3 жыл бұрын
Mahalo for the that good strategy
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Waipahu King
@markadkins9290
@markadkins9290 2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff!
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@rwhong
@rwhong 3 жыл бұрын
love your vids money shot! a little unrelated - how many chips can fit in one players chip rack
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I didn’t ever tried counting. Lol
@texadonkey34
@texadonkey34 3 жыл бұрын
You explain this perfectly👍🎲🎲. I feel safer with a low limit table. Weekends are soo high with shooters drinking 🙉. Thank you for posting.🌺🌺
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kat. I try my best. Lol
@MARNSTERTV
@MARNSTERTV 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and strategy Money Shot! Thanks for the breakdown and through explaining!
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mar
@davetesta2797
@davetesta2797 Жыл бұрын
Wow Brian, I wish I found this two years ago. This is really a bit of genius as David (from CQ) would say. I really agree with the logic in all phases. Limiting the exposure and loss of bankroll. The random rollers can really crush you fast. Even my own rolls when I’m on tilt lol. It requires a bit bigger bank roll but I think with about a $1,000 on a $10 game you should be pretty safe to play for a while. I tend to do a $500 bankroll when playing craps because I am pretty broke dick (as Alex from CQ is fond of saying) so I play a modified iron cross most times. It’s a 3 unit 5,6&8 or $15 & $18 set up and $15 field. Try to catch that early field roll and use that money to cover the 4,9&10 at $10 each and reduce my 5,6,8 back down to 2 units or $10 & $12. The next goal is to use any outside hits like 4,5,9&10 to press up 6&8 and try and catch a 6 or 8 at about $30, collect that which is $35 to my rack and now be out of the hand. It’s $66 if I’m not mistaken maximum exposure. Like I said, a broke dick strategy but I like it for the $500 bank roll on a $10 table. I love your entire hybrid strat with a $1,000 bankroll and I love how it is constant action every roll of the dice. You are awesome my friend! Mahalo 😃
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters Жыл бұрын
Watch more of the videos
@davetesta2797
@davetesta2797 Жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters Hi Brian, thank you for taking the time to reply. You have so many great videos with well thought out strategies. Just in case I missed you saying in a recent video, can I ask you your favorite light side and dark side strategies at the moment and / or hybrid strategies. Probably difficult to say because it depends on the shooter… Let me rephrase, what is currently your favorite random shooter system if you were in Vegas today and what is your favorite “with the shooter” or betting on yourself strategy as of today? That way I can see which strategies are currently your favorite and ponder them also. Thanks so much!! Mahalo 🤘
@hawaiisrealestateagentresource
@hawaiisrealestateagentresource Жыл бұрын
@@davetesta2797 I use the HPower Light switch now on randoms and I use the Split the Sisters on my own roll and controlled shooters
@jhonnyace9461
@jhonnyace9461 3 жыл бұрын
I love this strategy! What is your method of determining whether or not to play this on a random roller. How do qualify them? Thanks!
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Jhonny. Many ways to qualify a shooter but a simple one I use is on the come out roll you watch and observe if that shooter is a controlled shooter or a random. How they throw the dice will give you that info. If it’s a true random then I’ll wait to bet with a 3-5 count then start the strategy. I’ll have just the Lay 4 and the hard 4 set on the come out and during the qualifying period because the 7 is strong at all times. If I see it’s a controlled shooter then I’ll move to the quarter pounder. And then to my foundation. Hope this helps.
@nategonzales3775
@nategonzales3775 3 жыл бұрын
Hey just subscribed and I like your style of teaching and explaining very awesome! Would this be a good strategy on a bubble and I’m fairly new to craps still, what is a 2 shaker baker? Lmao
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, definitely. 2 Shaker Baker is a roller who gets a point, rolls one more, then sevens out.
@glenthomason1428
@glenthomason1428 3 жыл бұрын
I like this strategy, but when playing it out on my practice rig, I did manage to throw a soft 4 on the come out a couple of times. That will knock a hole in your session bankroll.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, you could try the 10 if that helps. Great thing is that you have the option.
@ryananthony4670
@ryananthony4670 3 жыл бұрын
Like your strategies but one pso or easy 4 and my bankroll is shot
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Any light side strategy will get killed by a PSO. LOL
@dice-city1386
@dice-city1386 2 жыл бұрын
Good strategy,,,
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@shahmatsimplex4144
@shahmatsimplex4144 3 жыл бұрын
I try to have the table to myself or with other skilled shooters. At $10 table , If randoms shoot, then after the comeout , put a $10 dc and a buck on yo. If 7 ouch then thats most I can loose and to the next shooter. If it hits point and travels then I place same number as a hedge. if number hits, then I collect and put back 10 on dc. if 7 ouch, then I break even. Of course you have to remind dealers that bets always working. Its a minimal loss to break even while waiting till its your turn. Randoms will burn up your bankroll really fast if you play often, and you just have to suck it up on the occasion one gets on a long roll and you are missing out. Now if you play once in a while, have fun and bet whatever you like on any player. But if you are playing very frequently as a controlled shooter hoping to make money, then this is how I advise to play when you have forced action on a random roller.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Great way to grind it out but you might as well do a no bet if the casino lets you. I’ll be sharing another strategy that you may like better. Stay tuned.
@shahmatsimplex4144
@shahmatsimplex4144 3 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters Awesome, looking forward too it.
@victordelmastro8264
@victordelmastro8264 3 жыл бұрын
Here are some of my thoughts: It's great that you are using lay bets for hedging your bets. However, I would like to suggest a different starting approach w/ the same basic result. Using the 6&8 place bets and a line bet with odds for hedging. I've noted an aversion to using line bets on your part even though they have phases (either the comeout or point cycle rolls) where they have an edge over the casino. So, instead of laying the 4 as a hedge, I would use don't line bets+ odds for the hedge. At a 10x free odds table, it keeps the HA down.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Great ideas Victor. I’ll look into it.
@capnmorgandarts
@capnmorgandarts 2 ай бұрын
The killer for this strategy is they establish the point with a soft 4 and then PSO.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 ай бұрын
Every strategy has a hole
@AmericaTown
@AmericaTown 3 жыл бұрын
What does it mean to qualify the shooter?
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Watch my video The Qualifier
@AmericaTown
@AmericaTown 3 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters thank you
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
@@AmericaTown You’re welcome
@huynguyen5293
@huynguyen5293 2 жыл бұрын
What would be the betting ratio for the quarter pounder strategy if you're at a 15 dollar table?
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
The same.
@georgesockett3316
@georgesockett3316 3 жыл бұрын
thats the iron cross minus i sent in to let it roll..you made a couple modifications like hopping 5 which you dont need
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
I filmed this before Rick released his video. I agree it does have it similarities
@georgesockett3316
@georgesockett3316 3 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters oh wow..you are far behind..Rick showed it 3 months ago
@dalemoore7911
@dalemoore7911 3 жыл бұрын
Very good. I’d like to see this for a $15 table.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dale
@mcchacho1
@mcchacho1 3 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters I think I would just play it the same way and add $16 dollars from my rack to the $50 win to get to $66 across. Increasing the bets for the quarter pounder with ease would add more risk in my mind than ponying up the extra $16 to get to $66 across.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
@@mcchacho1 That’s smart too. I thought the same. Less risk and one more hit.
@annieblach5331
@annieblach5331 Жыл бұрын
You can also play the one hit iron cross by hopping the 5 for $7
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters Жыл бұрын
You are right
@brauliogonzalez236
@brauliogonzalez236 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t you hop the 4s on the come out for 15 and that wins you 150 if the 4 is hit?
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
It will cost you more in the long run
@jimklemens5018
@jimklemens5018 3 жыл бұрын
Recoup.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@georgesidhom8215
@georgesidhom8215 3 жыл бұрын
Get em
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks George.
@sophiethesloth
@sophiethesloth 3 жыл бұрын
With higher table minimums in vegas now I hear,you may need more than 44 across maybe need triple quater pounder 3 wins then take that 75 for 15 on 5&9 18 on 6&8 so 66 across profit $9 Or if you hit a come out 7 for $47 profit then you just need 1 quarter pound hit to start the $66 across. $66 across wins pay $21 :) Then options maybe if hit a 5 or 10 press up $5 on each keep $11 or even any win of $21 add a dollar and press all by 1 unit 🤔 So all wins pay $28 then go from there :) 😃 obviously good luck will be needed
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
That’s a great strategy too. I’ll try it out. Thanks Scott.
@sophiethesloth
@sophiethesloth 3 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters cool :) be good see a video on that
@sophiethesloth
@sophiethesloth 3 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters great videos by the way im new and enjoying going through them. So it would be Stage 1 ..lay the 4 for $140 and $20 on hard 4 as your hybrid states. Every 7 wins $67 after the vig Keeping on that until you make a point hopefully a few sevens rolled ( set those dice for controlled more chance of a 7 ;) Stage 2..if you won $67 from a seven in the come out roll go $15 on 5&8 $18 on 6&8 Save the $1 ready When you get 1 hit winning $21 press them all up 1 unit so total of $22. Then away we go all this is house money now hoping to build some money :) Ermm if not hit a 7 in come out then it needs to be your quarter pounder with cheese 🧀 $60 on 6&8 $35 field Then hop that 5 for $10 or do you risk leaving 5 blank ? 5 rolls you lose $35 7 rolls you lose it all. If you don't cover the 5 you need 2 hits field or 6&8 pays $35 x 2 = $70 that covers that $66 across. And you can even go then $2 on hard 4 & hard 10.
@freewayrail5732
@freewayrail5732 2 жыл бұрын
Ok love the strategy but am I missing something but call me crazy you can literally go $25 greens on each number and be cheaper than the quarter pounder with ease no need to hop anything, hell 6 and 8 can be $30 ea and it's still cheaper I'm lost ???
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
You can get out of the hand at the beginning.
@jimklemens5018
@jimklemens5018 3 жыл бұрын
Hedging your $140 Lay bet on the 4 with a $20 Hard 4 bet will cost you money in the long run. It would make more sense to make a $100 Lay bet on the 4 without a hedge.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
The hard 4 doesn’t go down unless the easy 4 comes which is 5%.
@jimklemens5018
@jimklemens5018 3 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters The house edge on a Lay bet on the 4 is 2.44%. The house edge on a Hard 4 is 11.11%.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
@@jimklemens5018 I’m talking about dice probability not house edge.
@jimklemens5018
@jimklemens5018 3 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters Dice probability says that you will lose more money when you make a Lay bet on the 4 and make a Hard 4 bet at the same time.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
@@jimklemens5018 Jim. It’s a temporary protection. It’s not up there the entire time
@kanakattack156
@kanakattack156 3 жыл бұрын
Neva use this, used the Q-pounder (modified) with a lay 4 or 10 for $100 on random shooter first roll.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Good adjustment.
@stevee5080
@stevee5080 Жыл бұрын
what casinos have $10 minimums nowadays?
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters Жыл бұрын
I know Ellis Island and the Grand in downtown has $5 tables
@stevee5080
@stevee5080 Жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters Thanks bro! i am so limited in the casinos i've played. i went to GVR after watching your vids. i've been there a total of 3 times and won all 3 times! thanks for the entertainment and hopefully one day i can crash your table... lol. probably the closest i got was running into kerrie at bally's (horseshoe now) after her and the ladies finished their rolls.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters Жыл бұрын
@@stevee5080 Nice wins. Keep it up.
@jbcraps
@jbcraps 3 жыл бұрын
Yes sir, let me have some Extra Cheese with that buddy....lol
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Extra Cheeze! Yessir! Your chip is on the way
@JT-uf3pr
@JT-uf3pr 3 жыл бұрын
Best bet is to buy the 4 and 10 and go against the 7 . 6 combinations against 6 combinations .
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Hard to go against the 7 when it's a cold table.
@JT-uf3pr
@JT-uf3pr 3 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters no such thing as a cold table . No such thing as controlling the dice neither . It's all luck .
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
@@JT-uf3pr Gotcha
@JT-uf3pr
@JT-uf3pr 3 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters you can set the dice , drop them 2 inches and the outcome will be random. Setting the dice and throwing them 4+ feet will be random. Cold and hot tables are just the luck . Going against the 7 on a cold table buying the 4 and 10 is basically like flipping a coin. I've had great success setting the dice with a 4/10 set with a backspin . Lucky I guess 🤣.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
@@JT-uf3pr luck is a factor in anything. I’d rather be lucky. Lol
@goodgamewellpaid5652
@goodgamewellpaid5652 2 жыл бұрын
Watching you from the Philippines. Your videos helped me alot. Won about 40k on dice setting betting strategies.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. That’s crazy. Nice win
@ProCraps
@ProCraps 3 жыл бұрын
Don't 🥃 🍻 and 🎲🎲 on this strategy.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Lol. Some strategies it would be ok to get drunk on but this is not one fo them.
@ProCraps
@ProCraps 3 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters I actually have a few "out to party with my friends" strategies that I have in my toolbox, solely so I can go out and not have to pay attention sometimes.
@marcain123
@marcain123 3 жыл бұрын
Redo with 15 dollars for us who struggle with math please
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like I’ll have to with all these requests. Will do.
@marcain123
@marcain123 3 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters thank you. Blame it on vegas and people playing these ridiculous minimums haha
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
@@marcain123 I know right.
@rbjackpotslots4842
@rbjackpotslots4842 11 ай бұрын
Proved last night $44 inside is losing lol looking for something better as a new player
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 11 ай бұрын
Lot's of strats to choose from on this channel
@rbjackpotslots4842
@rbjackpotslots4842 11 ай бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters love your channel with the game play in the casinos, got me interested in playing, and setting. Unfortunately Wendover NV where we play does not allow setting ☹️
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 11 ай бұрын
Ah maybe when you go to Vegas. Thanks for watching@@rbjackpotslots4842
@kodiak536kodiak536
@kodiak536kodiak536 3 жыл бұрын
Only problem I see is that the strategy assumes the "best case" scenario of the random shooters... Even controlled shooter throw a point and 7 but, with less chance of doing so...still, it happens. I have seen many random Shooters in Vegas that made a fire bet! ALL 6 points! Rare but, it did happen. I bet minimal amount, after "studying" the table and Shooters, to determine what numbers are coming out more with some consistency before any of my money get on the table. Believe me, blah, I tried almost all of these strategies and found NONE that actually worked well enough to be tried again. My best strategy is observation, assessment and gut feelings based on what I see happening on the table. You can have a master degree on mathematics and still loose your butt on crap table😁 Good insight though.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
You’re absolutely right Kodiak but that is just what makes Craps fun and Challenging. If there was no chance to lose then then no craps tables would be in the casinos. The love of the challenge is what keeps me going but I agree with you, observation, timing and using the right strategy at the right time is key. Thanks for your comment
@fortunatusnine2012
@fortunatusnine2012 3 жыл бұрын
🤔👍
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
🤙🏾
@davidwong6806
@davidwong6806 3 жыл бұрын
Instead of this bet, why not simply bet a $12 three way 7? You'll win $52 and accomplish your $50 goal with a whole lot less dough.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Yes but if you don’t hit your out $12
@chrisbrodbeck1961
@chrisbrodbeck1961 2 жыл бұрын
Iron cross with a dark 5 ..
@chrisbrodbeck1961
@chrisbrodbeck1961 2 жыл бұрын
my felt doesn't have the hop bets yet.. I just bought the iron on...
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Nice
@tronghungdao251
@tronghungdao251 Жыл бұрын
❤😂😮😊
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters Жыл бұрын
😀
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