My BIGGEST REGRETS as a beginner equestrian! Abuse,being used, +more

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[@sadiebella5741]

I love that she actually confesses to these things a lot of people would never even when they know what their doing is wrong

[@thegothicequestrian]

I definitely relate to this, I used to be a working student when I was 12 and I was tasked with watering the barn , teaching lesson students how to tack up and bring horses in and out of the barn (plus occasionally holding a horse for the farrier) I was not payed, I was promised that I would be able to exercise a lesson pony in exchange but it rarely ever happened. Plus most of the horses I was handing were ottbs and otsbs (off the track thoroughbreds and Standardbreds) these horse were often no older than 3 years old and would regularly rear or try to bolt off while leading and had terrible anxiety, the experience definitely made me able to handle those situations better now but no 12 year old should have to do that. And the most ironic part is when I got my horse (who is an ottb) the barn manager said I’m “too young to handle that much horse” like girl you had be handling far worse horses when I was 12 😂

[@rachelrosenbaum6697]

Agree SO MUCH with no shortcuts in training. I had a tb who was super green and everyone told me I needed to get a harsher bit for him but just took some time to help him understand gently and he was looking so much better in his plain snaffle🥰

[@HaileyMann-hc6jk]

I was at one barn and they constantly said "smack them" "beat them" and I thought that was normal until I got to my new barn and they give better instructions to not rely on a whip and tell me when I'm using it too much, I much needed that switch

[@Equines_and_Animals]

Btw, I actually just moved barns because I was paying for lessons to exercise their recovering horse (walk/trot when I’m able to canter and jump 2ft) and then doing 5 hours of barn chores with no payment, many other boarders were pressured into caring for the horses, but only the kids, and so many have left because of the pressure even though they are paying the barn. Will miss them but it’s for the better haha

[@ZNS_Eventing]

i love this video. i related to all of this. it’s sad how some trainers teach this. gladly when my old trainer told me to whip the horse over the jumps and i didn’t think that sounded right luckily even tho i was young. gladly now i own selene and she was at a barn where she had trauma… so still working her to get over that trauma. i was at that barn too getting lessons with her but when i learned more, i bought her and moved her. now i’m at a barn that i love! ❤

[@oakleytheduck]

I always whip my horses over jumps? It doesn’t hurt them and it’s the purpose of jumping bats. It more is just annoys them.

[@Smalltownhunter]

make a podcast!! i would listen to every episode

[@julia_eq1]

Really awesome video! I wish as a young and beginner rider I had videos like this because I could have found stuff like IEA and other things like that earlier.

[@ThePASTRYwolf]

Yeah! I wish ide known about IEA sooner and whatnot. 😭

[@rebeccamatthesen]

my biggest regret when i was younger was letting my old trainer emotionally abuse me, manipulate me, and use me. so glad i’ll never have to be stuck with her again.

[@justinepalmer]

That sounds awful, I'm glad you were able to get out of it!

[@abiequestrian9857]

followed you since your 3 year riding anniversary! Love you so much ❤️❤️🕺🕺

[@justinepalmer]

That's awesome you've been here for years!

[@aleksa-eq]

it feels illegal to watch her video with three likes

[@justinepalmer]

Haha exclusiveee

[@Avesrides]

YAY YOU POSTED ❤❤ since other people are saying how long they've been watching your channel I'm proud to say I've been watching since 2018 ❤❤

[@justinepalmer]

Back in the pony days!!

[@Avesrides]

@@justinepalmer yes!!

[@equestriankeira]

Yesssss! OUR QUEEN HAS POSTED! I missed you so much🤣🩷🐴

[@kwizEcheesePets]

Thank you for posting this! Love that you love horses and not just use them. Finding the right trainer who is fair to the horse is extremely important. At the barn, I got my horse from the one trainer who taught me right and the other told me to pull on the outside reign to stop him bucking. It did not stop him and he had a pelham. now he had a bitless bridle and rarely bucks.

[@khtdreamer523]

A thing that I want to add to the forcing your horse into stressfull situations: competitions are often a huge stress factor for horses. As prey animals, the many people, noises and horses they don't know along with a completely new environment that they're immediately expected to perform well in can be very overwhelming for horses

[@sophiaeq]

So glad you're posting more!

[@justinepalmer]

Me too!!

[@NatashaOktav]

Oh my gosh, I totally understand what you mean about the bad working student positions. I checked out a barn once who's going rate for lessons was 50$. They said that if I wanted to be a working student, I had to clean stalls in order to get lessons if I couldn't pay for them. They said that each stall done was worth 2$, so I had to do -- count 'em! --25 stalls! Not to mention having to compete with other working students to be able to get that many stalls, because they only had 13 and plenty of other people trying to grab the same opportunity. I'm so glad I decided to pursue other options, cuz my gosh that was crazy!

[@LuandPenny]

The FIRST thing I teach in my riding program is horsemanship. I teach that it’s #1 priority and I make them go hard on it ❤

[@Equines_and_Animals]

You still remain my favorite equestrian KZbinr, even after all this time!!! You are my freaking idol, I wish I could meet you in person, you are amazing!!! ❤

[@justinepalmer]

Hopefully one day we will meet then! Thank you sm

[@justgrabmanefarm5553]

This is amazing!!!!

[@sarahlorek7762]

Oh my gosh I hope you post more can’t wait to watch❤

[@justinepalmer]

Posting next week too! :D

[@horselover656]

Quick note: I do not agree with hitting your horse hard, and doing it continuously, but a small tap with the crop will not do anyting to affect them negatively. I can wave the crop in my pony's face and she'll basically fall asleep. I do NOT agree with tapping a horse with a proper lunging whip, because those can actually hurt badly, no matter how much force you put into it. Your horse should be okay with you stroking the whip along their back, and not be afraid of it. Respect and fear are 2 different things

[@---td5fg]

To add to the bit point aswell- use a bit the horse actually likes! Just because you use the nicest snaffle available, doesnt mean the horse likes it! One of my horses loves a specific snaffle type so they have only used that one! Dont fix with something that isnt broke!

[@abbyequestrian3349]

SO EXCITED TO WATCH JUSTINE LUVV UU! ❤❤❤ Also how old r u now? ❤❤❤

[@justinepalmer]

I'm 20! Love you too!!

[@pinkiessmallworld]

I love your channel so much!!

[@wingsofatlantis]

Im still sitting here wondering how youre so underrated 😭

[@justinepalmer]

Aw ty, I'm glad you like my videos!

[@Simply-EQ]

Can you make a Christmas list video?? Love your videos!!

[@justinepalmer]

I may do a christmas haul, I have a couple equestrian gift list idea videos up already from previous years!

[@The.Shooting.Stars.4ever]

Dude you’re like the best

[@justinepalmer]

dude, thank you :)

[@The.Shooting.Stars.4ever]

@@justinepalmer lol

[@Lauren_Equitation]

This is interesting! I feel like I haven’t had any exposure to any other barns, so sometimes it’s hard to tell what’s good and bad. An issue I have with my barn is the lease prices, as you have to lease to show. Is this normal? Luckily I have IEA so…

[@justinepalmer]

That's exactly why I made this video, I'm glad it reached you who may not have had the chance to get exposed to other things yet! I would say leasing to show is not the norm. Usually, from my experience/areas at least, if you want to show they will let you show on a lesson horse. You may have to "rent" the horse for the day but I've never seen where it is required to have a monthly lease to show a horse.

[@Lauren_Equitation]

@@justinepalmer I have seen some other barns around my area do the same thing, according to my instructor it’s a liability issue if a horse gets injured or something.

[@Lauren_Equitation]

@@justinepalmer luckily the barn offers IEA so that’s what me and another girl does until we can get a lease.

[@dapplegrey]

Love to see new videos!! I love your channel

[@justinepalmer]

Thank you! I have a few more videos coming up already

[@dapplegrey]

@@justinepalmer Can't wait to see!

[@TabithaWiley-kx6ky]

I love your videos!

[@Soph473]

Part two (abusive tack)

[@badlander2000]

I cant believe how grown up and mature you've become.

[@justinepalmer]

Thank you! :)

[@ThatSmallEquestrian]

I was here since you rode charlotte ☺️❤ (I want more Mrs staciest funny videos again!)

[@justinepalmer]

We need to revive Mrs Stacies haha!

[@nikiloves264]

I was taken advantage in my barn job and they told me to my face that I would get nothing but I hated my home life and the horses were my only escape 🥺

[@justinepalmer]

I'm sorry you were in that situation! I hope you have found a better one now

[@courtney9899]

I wish I saw this video when I first started, it's so upsetting that abuse was taught to all of us and none of us knew what was right or wrong. I really appreciate this video. Thank you, I feel less alone living with the guilt from my past

[@justinepalmer]

It's so easy to carry that guilt, however we must try and forgive ourselves. I know how saddening it is looking back on things, but when we're being taught to abuse horses and thinking that's "the way", the fault stems from the bad trainers and guidance.

[@courtney9899]

@@justinepalmer I know the only thing I can do now is take the time to learn and be better and try teach that to people younger

[@simpliikeq]

I so so so agree, some of the girls at my barn who ride a horse named penny will literally KICK her into tomorrow, I honestly feel so bad for penny and my trainer tells them not to but they won’t listen 😢

[@justinepalmer]

Aw we can only hope they learn to keep the horse in mind too

[@Trainfor_Golden]

Honestly if I were you I would treat them how they treat penny so they will know that if that hurts them then imagine how much it hurts Penny!

[@simpliikeq]

@@Trainfor_Golden I’m honestly so shy irl that I don’t have friends at the barn, but the one in particular I don’t want to be friends with she’s very arrogant 😭

[@Lauren_Equitation]

Im also trying to find a barn that lets kids have lessons in exchange for working, but I honestly don’t know where to start. Do you have any tips of how to ask?

[@justinepalmer]

If you ask around and let your intentions be known, it may reach the right person. Also, join local horse facebook groups and let them know you're "ISO (description of the job you're looking for)". In Search Of (ISO) posts are very common on local groups.

[@Lauren_Equitation]

@@justinepalmer okay tysm!

[@Charleel2008]

When I got one of my first youngsters she was very fresh and my instructor told me to “break her soul”

[@justinepalmer]

Holy cow, that's so sad. Why do we need to "break" these horses down, when we could (should!) be working together to build them up. 😞

[@aleksa-eq]

second view🤌❤❤❤

[@horsesoverpeople]

I’m so early 🫢

[@annakoryazhkina7762]

Awesome!!! When I have a horse stressing out over a jump, I usually get off and walk the jumps or show them it. Or make the jump smaller and smaller until they are confident enough to jump it. Thank you for the awsome video!!!

[@justinepalmer]

That's a great way! I much prefer it and I've never had a horse be "difficult" doing this approach. They always just end up building confidence and trust.

[@Rosie_eq]

… I guess I’m free chilled labour I work for hours on Sundays and the adults get paid and I don’t 😅but I’m to shy to ask to get paid…

[@justinepalmer]

If you don't want to ask for direct pay, ask for a free lesson or being able to free ride a horse

[@maryambronson686]

FIRSTTTT

[@justinepalmer]

Lightning fast!!

[@stinkyhornypetey1511]

This is my first time commenting on your channel but I’ve been following your journey for over 5 years, and I too had this realization around 3 years ago after leaving an abusive barn, and I was always secretly hoping that it would happen to you too since I enjoyed your vlogs and videos so much! I absolutely love your ability to reflect back on past mistakes and experiences, and keep in mind that it doesn’t make you a bad person, but rather it allows you to move forward with more knowledge and self-reflection on how to do things right. Very proud of you and you should be very proud of yourself for this, keep going!! 💕🙌🏼

[@justinepalmer]

Thank you! It's super respectful of you to have maybe seen things I was doing wrong but also didn't hate on me for it. We all need to work through various experiences and keep learning until we find what's best. It may have taken me years and years to finally be properly exposed to horsemanship, but now I will hold these values for my entire life. I stress the "you don't know better until you know better" because we're all learning and can only be held accountable for what we've been exposed to. And it just took me a long time until I was finally taught it! So I hope by making videos like these, it will help others come to find it as well, and to recognize abuse when they are being taught it as "training".