That old lady who tells the women who got shot to bite down is in the Grapes of Wrath along side of Henry Fonda. So many of these character actors show up over and over again, especially in John Ford directed films, but also in other films.
@aresee82086 ай бұрын
Academy award winning actors in this movie are Henry Fonda (Best Actor, On Golden Pond, 1982), Walter Brennan (Best Sipporting Actor, Come and Get It, 1936; Kentucky, 1938; The Westerner, 1940, and Jane Darwell (Best Supporting Actress, The Grapes of Wrath, 1940).
@michaeldmcgee44998 ай бұрын
"The Ox-Bow Incident" with Henry Fonda, Dana Andrews, and Henry Morgan is a western that will haunt you long after it's over. Well worth watching!
@Dej246018 ай бұрын
Yes, a very profound film!
@les-b5p7 ай бұрын
At 17:30 Chihuahua splashes herself too, and they kept the shot, anyway.
@JaguarDave548 ай бұрын
Victor Mature was an interesting guy. He was applying to a golf club in LA and they turned him down saying they didn’t take actors for members, to which Mature said “I’m no actor and I have 64 movies to prove it”. 😂
@Sirala68 ай бұрын
He retired from show biz at 46 "I was never that crazy about acting. I had a compulsion to earn money, not to act. So, I worked as an actor until I could afford to retire. I wanted to quit while I could still enjoy life ... I like to loaf. Everyone told me I would go crazy or die if I quit working. Yeah? Well, what a lovely way to die."
@TheTerryGene8 ай бұрын
Mature was actually a better actor than he liked to let on. His work in film noir has stood the test of time and his performance in The Robe was the best in that blockbuster.
@BlueShadow7778 ай бұрын
@@TheTerryGene You’re right. He often parodied himself, such as in “After the Fox” but, in my opinion, he was actually pretty good. I particularly liked him in “The Robe”, “Demetrius and the Gladiators” and “I Wake Up Screaming”.
@TheTerryGene8 ай бұрын
@@BlueShadow777 I second that emotion. I thought he was great in Kiss of Death, even though his character was overshadowed by Richard Widmark’s crazed Tommy Udo. I also like him in the sadly overlooked Violent Saturday.
@raymeedc8 ай бұрын
I agree with Mature’s self assessment of his acting abilities.
@Wrong_gear-341119 күн бұрын
"Gunfight OK Corral" Lancaster, Douglass, Van Fleet. Excellent
@ronaldwallace74597 ай бұрын
You can start a complete series of Earp movies. Randolph Scott played Earp in 1939's Frontier Marshal. The next movie about the legendary tale is 1959's Gunfight at the OK Corral by John Sturges [The Magnificent Seven, The Great Escape]. Sturges didn't like how he depicted the titular gunfight, so in 1967 he made Hour of the Gun, with James Garner in his first time as Wyatt. His second time was 1988's Sunset, set in 1929, with Bruce Willis as Tom Mix. The narration of Tombstone spoke of Mix as one of Earp's Pall Bearers.
@bradsullivan24958 ай бұрын
This movie was worked into the plot of an episode of MASH, with the unit trying to watch it in the middle of a rainstorm.
@NiallMor8 ай бұрын
The members of the 4077th watch this movie during one of their movie nights.
@rockpile4512 күн бұрын
What is accurate .......... The youngest Earp brother, baby brother Wyatt Earp became a cook on a ranch that is today called Hollywood California. He became the mentor to the 1st cowboy movie stars like, John Wayne, the real reason anyone knows about him is that John Wayne called his cowboy character, Wyatt Earp. Read John Wayne's autobiography ........ he credits his success to Wyatt Earp's teaching him to act like an old west cowboy. The biggest myth about the old west is Wyatt Earp aka. "The Pimp of Peoria".
@TheTerryGene8 ай бұрын
This film was based on “Frontier Marshal” by Stuart N. Lake, which had previously been filmed under that title with Randolph Scott as Earp and Cesar Romero as Doc. It also formed the basis of the 1950’s TV series “The Life and Legend of Wyatt Earp” starring Hugh O’Brien.
@ThePeaceableKingdom5 ай бұрын
It's not history, but it's a helluva story. "John Ford famously said that when you had to choose between history and legend, print the legend." But besides all of that, there is just some great movie making on display. The shadows. The darkness, the dust, the camera angles. the faces.. a true classic movie, even if it's not historically accurate.
@raymeedc8 ай бұрын
So interesting that you would have first seen & subconsciously typecasted Fonda as a villain in one of the only times he played anything other than the hero in the vast majority of his roles…. for most familiar with his career, playing the villain was a shock to the majority filmgoers at the time, who had never seen him as a villain before that
@mrcapra8 ай бұрын
Yes, I grew up watching Henry Fonda in Young Mr. Lincoln, Mister Roberts, Drums Along the Mohawk, 12 Angry Men and Yours, Mine and Ours. Once Upon a Time in the West really threw me for a loop. I dislike that movie for that reason - but it was a great performance. Jimmy Stewart was the same, coming across as always the good guy.
@raymeedc8 ай бұрын
& they were close friends & early room mates. James Stewart is my all time favorite actor, always has been, on stage & off 👌
@BDUBZ497 ай бұрын
Not exactly a villain, but he wasn't that likable in Fort Apache.
@christopherschafer76758 ай бұрын
Linda Darnell as Chihuahua. Exotic looks, a difficult life and a tragic premature end. - Tim Holt as Virgil Earp. He costarred in a couple of very famous movies from the 40's but most of his time was spent starring in RKO B westerns, 46 of them. - John Ireland as Billy Clanton. A solid supporting actor with a lot of history, you've seen him before in 'Red River' and he went on to play Johnny Ringo in 'Gunfight at the O.K. Corral' 1957. - Jane Darwell, the lady who wanted to nurse Chihuahua after she was shot was in over 100 major movies. She played Henry Fonda's mom in 'The Grapes of Wrath' 1940, a truly great movie. - Walter Brennan also played the heavy in 'The Westerner' 1940, he won his third Oscar for that one.
@melenatorr8 ай бұрын
Linda Darnell is also beautiful in "Mark of Zorro" and "Letter to Three Wives".
@Tomloser43218 ай бұрын
Tim Holt's classic role in "Treasure of the Sierra Madre" will keep him relevant for quite awhile !
@flaggerify8 ай бұрын
The best telling of this story.
@mr.danandhorror42308 ай бұрын
So glad you did this one -due to the title I had no idea it was a Wyatt Earp movie (historical accuracy or not) but wow I did enjoy this. “The Oldspice of the Old West.” 😄
@Quietus6Ай бұрын
Interesting….being 80 years old, I take for granted my knowledge of these great old movies. For instance, I saw Fonda first as the hero, only later as a villain in ONCE UPON A TIME. Hard to realize that these classics are relatively unknown to newer generations. Anyway, good review.
@jessediaz12937 ай бұрын
The best version of this story is “Gunfight At The OK Corral” with Burt Lancaster and Kirk Douglas.
@matthewdunham16898 ай бұрын
That’s funny Fonda was the all American hero type who took the villain part in Once Upon a Time in the West to do something different for once in his career.❤
@waterbeauty858 ай бұрын
That's why it's so humorous that Madison found it strange seeing him playing a hero because she was introduced to him as a villain. Sort of the opposite of what audiences felt when seeing him in "Once Upon a Time in the West" back in the day.
@OldmovieMike7 ай бұрын
Great review! i recently subbed to your channel, im a big western fan of all decades! and i do a lot of western videos! take care
@MadisonKThames7 ай бұрын
Thank you🙏🏻 And thanks for the sub!
@1sabryn8 ай бұрын
You got to see The Professional a great Western with Lee Marvin and Burt Land aster.
@williambrownlee99788 ай бұрын
I love your channel. I am from Alabama. Just west of Tuscaloosa. I now live near Mobile. I was a teacher for 25 years until I became disabled. Hope your channel continues to grow.
@MadisonKThames8 ай бұрын
Thank you, William! Always good to hear from folks watching in AL😃
@dillwack8 ай бұрын
My Ex worked at Big Nose Kate’s in the 90s in Tombstone.
@KayQue-s3r8 ай бұрын
In this movie Doc was described as "the best surgeon" by Clementine shortly after she arrived.
@GSErnie8 ай бұрын
I saw this movie years ago at a college screening. There was a change at the end. The studio added a post-production insert, where Wyatt hugs Clementine instead of shakes her hand (which was the original version and the one here). This was apparently due to screeners wanting more interaction between Wyatt and Clementine, than what John Ford intended.
@doubleDD2748 ай бұрын
Those of us who are older know the good Henry Fonda from all his wonderful roles. We were SHOCKED to see him as the villain in ONCE UPON A TIME IN THE WEST. That's what made it so good. Victor Mature plays Doc Holiday and did a magnificent job. You've got to see Kirk Douglas in the role in GUNFIGHT AT THE OK CORRAL. Doc Holiday is a great role and all the actors that played him do a great job.
@perrymalcolm38028 ай бұрын
This is such a beautiful movie to watch on the big screen
@CaminoAir8 ай бұрын
Above where you are sitting....is that a replica of the sign Gus created in 'Lonesome Dove'?
@angieday51838 ай бұрын
Burt Lancaster, and Joel McRae also played Wyatt among others
@mgman6000Ай бұрын
As did James Garner in the hour of the gun
@keithajayan5 ай бұрын
I live in Colorado and I have seen doc Holliday's grave
@marieoleary84384 ай бұрын
I wonder if Clementine was the cleaned up version of Josephine (Josey) character. Just thinking out loud….
@otter30958 ай бұрын
I’ve never seen this movie but wanted to leave you a comment saying I love it that you chose a movie from such a long time ago. Most reactors watch the same movies and don’t venture much outside of what they think is popular Best wishes👍🏻
@TheTerryGene8 ай бұрын
This was the only John Ford film in which Walter Brennan appeared. Brennan did not enjoy the experience because he found the director’s sense of humor to be sadistic.
@bertramfien10958 ай бұрын
This is pure John Ford, the best. His treatment was like the old western that it is.
@tomfowler3818 ай бұрын
You might want to watch “The Ox-Bow Incident” (1942) starring Henry Fonda. It’s a tremendous- and often overlooked - classic.
@stratiogesdux7 ай бұрын
Here! Here!
@michaelbrennick8 ай бұрын
I like this version of the OK corral showdown. It takes dramatic liberty, but serves the story nicely. Also, director John Ford knew Wyatt Earp well. Wyatt Earp was a technical advisor on westerns, during the silent film era, and he worked with Ford on several films. Walter Brennan is a big plus in this film as he plays old man Clanton. This is a big change from Brennan playing Stumpy in Rio Bravo. Brennan had great range as a character actor. Also, Victor Mature as Doc Holliday and Henry Fonda, both excellent as usual.
@thomast85398 ай бұрын
Yeah, lots of liberties in this film. Thats OK, the story works and it should simply be enjoyed on its own, right?
@stratiogesdux7 ай бұрын
Brennan reprises this character in Support Your Local Sheriff. He does a very good comedic take-off.
@jessediaz12937 ай бұрын
My favorite shootout from this version is from the movie “Doc” (1971) It’s so cold blooded where the Earps and Doc Holiday are just as bad as the Clantons.
@aclark72438 ай бұрын
You may want to consider reacting to Tombstone. An excellent western, especially Val Kilmer performance as Doc Holliday.
@roadrunner31007 ай бұрын
You clearly know your westerns. I think you love Fort Apache, another John Ford western with Henry Fonda as well as John Wayne and a 19-year-old Shirley Temple. Great movie.
@rhondawalance67348 ай бұрын
A Henry Fonda film you may enjoy is called A Big Hand for the Little Lady (1966) with Joanne Woodward.
@williambowman23268 ай бұрын
Classic Hollywood. With at least 10 new movies coming out a week, movies had to stand out or feel comfortable to see. Having a movie with a known song for its title helped , at least the studios believed, create ticket sales. Of course it’s fiction … this is the Hollywood Dream Factory. You have contract actors getting paid, behind the scenes professionals on contracts, and studio owned theatres needing to fill their screens . It was about entertainment, not authenticity. When you watch a Western or any action movie before 1965 try to remember the great line in Liberty Valence, “ This is the west, when the legend becomes fact, print the legend” This allows you to just sit back and have a great time. Your reactions are great
@shawnmiller47817 ай бұрын
Col Potter’s favourite movie. Great episode of MASH
@JaguarDave548 ай бұрын
My favorite part for Henry Fonda was Tom Joad in “The Grapes of Wrath “.
@caldwellkelley30848 ай бұрын
I like the part when Henry looks in the window and you can hear him thinking "Damn I do look good!"
@LukeyBoy1258 ай бұрын
I remember that fella you couldn't remember as the Sherrie in The Searchers dunno if that's what you were thinking of.
@billmoretz87188 ай бұрын
For a more comical western with Fonda try "My Name is Nobody ".
@custardflan8 ай бұрын
Clementine represents the hope both men had. One from the past and one for the future. Or something like that. Doc dying is his tragic ending. Kind of Shakespearean.
@salvadorzulueta59018 ай бұрын
It's a John Ford film. He directed The Searchers. This director influenced many modern filmmakers but called himself merely as a director of westerns.
@cbobwhite57688 ай бұрын
A good western, with Henry Fonda and Jimmy Stewart, is "The Cheyenne Social Club".
@paulpeacock11818 ай бұрын
Of course it is the John Ford /John Wayne collaboration that most people talk about, but the John Ford /Henry Fonda collaboration is a very strong second. Chronologically their films are Drums Along The Mohawk, Young Abe Lincoln, The Grapes Of Wrath, Fort Apache and Mister Roberts. There is a couple more but these five are the best. I know they lost their friendship during Mister Roberts but not sure why
@thomast85398 ай бұрын
Ford was a hard man and it seems that he was drunk when he punched Fonda during filming of Mister Roberts. Plus, Ford was likely tired of Fonda's politics and/or vice versa. It is probably inevitable after so many team ups between directors with strict visions and actors that finally believe they can challenge them. Even Jimmy Stewart felt out with director Anthony Mann after 8 films together.
@wraithby8 ай бұрын
Fonda was hoping that more of the Mister Roberts stage play treatment would get into the film. Ford wasn't appreciative of Fonda's suggestions and he belted him after a few boilermakers. I guess it took a number of years to patch things up. But Ford apologized to Fonda with tears in his eyes at the time. Ford was in a bad mental state at the time and was off the set for a big part of the picture. Ford didn't get along with Jimmy Cagney either. And as Irish Americans from similar backgrounds it's surprising they didn't. Cagney didn't have any time for Ford's tyrannical approach on set.
@charlessperling70315 ай бұрын
Actually, you've got most of them aside from "The Fugitive" (1947). I'm not sure whether Ford directed the segment of "How the West Was Won" in which Fonda appeared.
@davegnarlsson43447 ай бұрын
'Hour of the Gun' is another choice.
@Clayton-kf3su8 ай бұрын
100% Rotten Tomatoes. Enjoy it for what it is. Don’t over analyze. My Darling Clementine, not Gunfight at The OK Corral, not Tombstone.
@michaelwalsh24988 ай бұрын
I'm from an earlier generation, so this is the first OK Corral treatment I saw. I can understand your generation's difficulty in leaving behind the historical account, and immersing in a very John Ford retelling. But this remains my favorite, after seeing all the others. I just love the lighting Ford had the cinematographer use. It's actually, very much, a film noir western. It also is lit a lot like Ford's earlier groundbreaking, non western films The Informer and The Long Journey Home. It's a spectacular use of German Expressionist lighting techniques in a western, almost desert environment.
@custardflan8 ай бұрын
I know it's not historically accurate but Ford does such a great job of creating the setting and populating it with great characters I could watch the church dance scene forever e r. And Brennan makes a great villain.
@Biwabik2234 ай бұрын
I hope someday you will review the movie Rustlers rhapsody starring Tom Berringer, Andy Griffith, Patrick Wayne among other great actors. A great western comedy.
@KayQue-s3r8 ай бұрын
John Ford's favorite film site; Monuments Valley. is so beautiful! Its definitely a must see and a good addition to any Grand Canyon trip even though its a couple hundred miles away.
@actaeon2997 ай бұрын
Well, I hadn't seen the movie, so I wasn't going to see the reaction. But, since I just watched it over at Dad's, I might as well watch the reaction now.
@tonyherrera25708 ай бұрын
Victor Mature as Doc…He was a big star in the 40’s and 50’s. This was Henry Fonda’s first movie after serving in World War II. Walter Brennen played an excellent villain in this movie. You should check out his performance alongside Gary Cooper in Sargent York. Brennen won the Best Supporting Actor Oscar for his performance as “the parson”. 😊👍🏼
@harryrabbit28708 ай бұрын
This era gleefully sacrificed history for story, and this is the story they wanted to tell. If you ever get a chance put "The Tin Star" up on one of your polls. Henry Fonda plays a grizzled gunfighter who teaches the local sheriff (Anthony Perkins from "Psycho") how to be a proper lawman. It's fun and sans historical references can be enjoyed as a pure western.
@charlessperling70315 ай бұрын
"The Tin Star" is outstanding! Michel Ray, who plays Kip, is Farraj, one of Lawrence's Arabian servants, in "Lawrence of Arabia."
@mikepatterson1907 ай бұрын
Sergeant York is available on TCM in a much better state than I have ever seen. You are probably the only person in the world who could do this move justice.
@clash5j8 ай бұрын
The mention of Deadwood reminded me that that would be a terrific show for you to watch either on the channel, or on your own
@stupidsmart-phone69118 ай бұрын
Can't wait! I feel like Flounder in Animal House when he said, all giddy, "Oh boy is this great!" 😊
@cliffordwaterton35438 ай бұрын
Ironic you mentioning 'Once Upon a Time in the West' The main reason Sergio Leone used Fonda was to have the totally opposite effect - after all the sympathetic roles he played the audience was supposed to be shocked by his playing a villain.
@adamscott73548 ай бұрын
Its important to note that ain't no "piano" bein' played but rather "Piani!"
@feldweible8 ай бұрын
The grizzled man wearing the kepi is John Ford's older brother Francis. An actor and film Director until films went "talky". Then he just stuck with acting. He was John's mentor in directing. He appears in a lot of JF's films. She Wore a Yellow Ribbon, The Quiet Man and others.
@michaelm69488 ай бұрын
John Ford wasn't nearly as invested in the OK Corral history as later generations. The broad American public in the late 40s weren't either. Ford was driving home one of his favorite themes, the end of the frontier and it's replacement by progressive civilization. Clementine represents this new order and Wyatt is in her camp. You see this in the dance scene, which Ford uses to show order and community replacing violent chaos. Wyatt and Clementine marching together to the new Church shows this. Wyatt is leaving the frontier behind. The dance is their ritual entry into the community. Doc can't make this transition. He's pulled in different directions. He won't make it to the promised land. The particulars of the OK Corral history take a back seat to Ford's artistic themes.
@JRoger7778 ай бұрын
Victor Mature was excellent in The Robe. Definitely a movie you should watch
@terenzo508 ай бұрын
There's no attention to historical detail in Clementine like there is in Wyatt Earp (1994) or Tombstone (1993), but it has its moments for me mostly because my journalist father visited the set during production which was bloody difficult to get to in those days and wrote a story on it for worldwide distribution. Ford was much concerned about providing as much employment as possible for the indiginous people who lived in the area where the location shooting took place. Poor Linda Darnell couldn't wait for her part to be completed so she could get back to civilization -- they really were out in the middle of nowhere with few if any then-modern conveniences.
@RabbiSteve18 ай бұрын
Wow. That’s so cool. While I don’t have that kind of connection, I love this movie. And TOMBSTONE. And GUNFIGHT AT THE OK CORAL.
@alundavies10168 ай бұрын
How do you pronounce Thames? As a Brit I have heard it pronounced a load of ways by visitors from overseas when talking about the River Thames. We pronounce it “Tems”.
@MadisonKThames8 ай бұрын
T as in Tom, and it rhymes with James. Most people say it like Tems or Thomas or something when I meet them, and I have to correct them😂
@alundavies10168 ай бұрын
@@MadisonKThames your name, your choice!
@vanfreedom73488 ай бұрын
A western comedy with Walter B . is, Support your local sheriff. Good fun !
@robertjewell97278 ай бұрын
Well, this is going to be controversial. I've always preferred this film of Tombstone and the fact that I've never bought Dana Delaney's portrayal of Josie for a second although I like Tombstone and particularly Val's Doc. But Ford is a poetic artist and the film really is about Clementine because she represents the future which was Ford's point about the taming of the West as subtle as it is and then again Ford uses the character of ad of to represent a figure torn between the past and the future of the U.S. He is a man who expresses himself wildly as slick as he is and with great cynicism about any future because of that. So even if it's not historically accurate (although Ford said and actually did know Wyatt Earl and said he got details on what happened at the O.K. Corral) it has as I said a more poetic reflection in my opinion about that old civilization vs. wilderness and the want for a harmonic community represented by what Clementine represents hence the title.
@michaelbrennick8 ай бұрын
Good points. It's definitely a watch more for understanding John Ford the great artist, than for the Earp-Clanton real life feud. I prefer this version than any of the others because it is John Ford's vision.
@BDUBZ498 ай бұрын
Delaney's character is the one thing I hated about Tombstone. The way the character was written, her portrayal, every encounter she has with Wyatt....just awful. I also hated the ending where they dance in the falling snow...with the time setting it looks like a Dickens story- totally incongruous with the rest of the film.
@contacluj7586 ай бұрын
You should watch one day "Calamity Jane"
@profesormacabro7 ай бұрын
Greetings and Salutations! Mr.Dan and Horror mentioned you and saw you on the Chat so I am here to support a fellow content creator
@MadisonKThames7 ай бұрын
Hey, thanks! I appreciate it😊
@lenny5367 ай бұрын
Classic
@jsharp31658 ай бұрын
Ward Bond played Virgil. He is best known for being the lead in the TV series "Wagon Train" and you probably know him for playing Bert the cop in "It's A Wonderful Life." Bond played second or third male lead in a bunch of movies. Ngl, I'd watch Linda Darnell read the user agreement for Microsoft Office for a good 10 minutes. But Rita Hayworth and Ava Gardner were my golden age crushes. They didn't do a lot of Westerns but I think you'd get a huge kick out of Rita in "Gilda" and Ava in "Mogambo." Back then the movie studios often tied movies to song titles, even if the connection was tenuous at best. This is probably an example of that.
@BDUBZ498 ай бұрын
I think Madison also knows Ward Bond from The Searchers, Rio Bravo and The Quiet Man too.
@williamkerner37587 ай бұрын
@@BDUBZ49 And 3 Godfathers.
@charlessperling70315 ай бұрын
@@williamkerner3758 I recommend "On Dangerous Ground," where he plays the father of a murdered daughter.
@anthonyvictor30348 ай бұрын
I know what you mean. As a historian I was climbing the walls with irritation. Completely frustrating and distracting. As a movie, it’s good fun. Good performances, classic Ford imagery etc.
@JaguarDave548 ай бұрын
Another interesting interpretation is “Gunfight At The OK Coral” with Burt Lancaster as Wyatt Earp and Kirk Douglas as Doc Holiday , Directed by John Sturges (another great director but not as celebrated these days).
@user-gt2uf8cq9y8 ай бұрын
Don't forget Rhonda Fleming... and John Ireland who plays Johnny Ringo in "Gunfight", and also played Billy Clanton in this film.
@sherigrow64808 ай бұрын
Douglas was the best Doc Holliday until Val Kilmer's portrayal.
@melenatorr8 ай бұрын
Walter Brennan was a good as they get. So often relegated to supporting roles, he could truly deliver in movies like this, or in "The Westerner", where he plays Judge Roy Bean. I first saw him in the very fun Western parody "Support Your Local Sheriff", very late in his career, and he was just as great and reliable as he ever was. The funny thing about your observation on Fonda and how you first saw him is the Leone cast Fonda as the villain because of the irony of seeing the lovely, gentle, good Henry Fonda as a terrible man. So you are getting the opposite lens effect. Victor Mature was my first Doc Holliday. And I confess that, when watching movies (real life is different) based on Earp and OK Corral, it's always Doc Holliday who attracts me: Kirk Douglas, Victor Mature, Val Kilmer .... there is something about the man as he comes across in movies that intrigues me more than Earp.
@angieday51838 ай бұрын
Many movies out there about the Earps
@montemurdoch50327 ай бұрын
Madison are you opposed to watching TV series because the BEST western series this side of Gunsmoke was " How the West Was Won " with James Arness & other excellent actors!
@angieday51838 ай бұрын
Fun fact, John Ford actually knew Wyatt Earp
@feldweible8 ай бұрын
Henry Fonda and Jimmy Stewart in "The Cheyenne Social Club"!!!!
@snookyookum8 ай бұрын
I really like your take on most westerns for the most part and I was surprised when you kept focusing on the 'incorrectness' of this movie like it was some kind of history book from the non fiction section of a library. I never thought you were the kind of fan who makes the terrible mistake of thinking that western movies are about the wild west. There were no liberties taken from the Earp/Tombstone story because John Ford's play wasn't remotely about Wyatt Earp or the Clantons or Tombstone. It's a morality play portraying the 'uncivilized' fictional wild west portrayed by the Clantons, Doc Holliday (an actual doctor in this FICTIONAL story) and Chihuahua, and the late 18th century changes as 'civilization' comes into town portrayed by the Earps (law) and morals in the form of people bringing a church and a wholesome community gathering to the town AND by the appearance of Clementine in town(order).. You completely ignored these wonderful themes and focused on how it didn't tell the supposed 'real' history of Tombstone and the Earps, much of which has been handed down verbally in different versions and disputed since it happened. Why was it named My Dar;ling Clementine? Because she is what John Ford's movie is really about: Civility coming into the land of lawlessnes and chaos. Sadly, for history buffs, Tombstone was a setting, not a subject. You missed a great story.
@BDUBZ497 ай бұрын
How many times have you seen the film?
@ink-cow8 ай бұрын
Walter Brennan played the stereotypical old comedic cowboy sidekick type so well, but he was also a multiple Academy Award winning actor. He got his teeth kicked out in one film by accident, which he considered a lucky break for his career because he could take out his false teeth any time and magically look forty years older. As a young man he was already the go-to guy to play old cranky men, sometimes with bad teeth. One of his greatest achievements (before he hit it big) may be his uncredited role as father to Moe, Larry and Curly in the Three Stooges short, Restless Knights. As an old man on his deathbed he confesses to his three boys that they are of noble blood and sends them off to serve the queen of Anasthesia. Later, he would be the old man who sends Gary Cooper off to fight WWI in Sgt York. 25 years after Clementine, he played basically the same character as his old man Clanton in the western comedy Support Your Local Sheriff with James Garner, as old man Danby.
@brachiator18 ай бұрын
Very enjoyable and insightful commentary. But it's funny. It's understandable that some people might view Tombstone as the best Wyatt Earp movie, but Clementine is one of the first Earp movies and it is based on the earliest biographies of Earp. And it should also be noted that there is no such thing as a historically accurate Wyatt Earp movie or TV show. That said, it's been said that a very young John Ford actually met Wyatt Earp and may have heard some stories about Tombstone from the man himself. My Darling Clementine is considered to be one of Ford's finest films, even though the studio re-edited the film and also inserted scenes filmed by another director. Victor Mature was one of the top stars of the 40s and 50s and might be best known to some fans from the biblical spectacular Samson and Delilah. Henry Fonda is simply one of the greatest actors of all time, and his early work, comedy, drama or Western is worth looking into.
@terenzo508 ай бұрын
You ought to see The Ox-Bow Incident (1943), Jesse James (1939) and The Return of Frank James (1940). And maybe for dessert, Destry Rides Again (1939). Assuming you've already seen Stagecoach (1939).
@thomast85398 ай бұрын
Young Mr Lincoln, Fort Apache, Mister Roberts, and Drums Along The Mohawk were some additional great films that showcased Fonda and were all directed by Ford.
@gitchegumee8 ай бұрын
All are top choices
@alansorensen59038 ай бұрын
For me, it's The Cheyenne Social Club. It doesn't get better than Fonda and Stewart.
@JRoger7778 ай бұрын
There's a Henry Fonda that isn't well known called Warlock. Fonda plays a town tamer with Anthony Quinn as his partner. Richard Widmark is in it too. All 3 have great performances. It's a shame that the movie isn't better known
@BlueShadow7778 ай бұрын
You really ought to check out the 1956 western: “LAST TRAIN FROM GUN HILL”.
@CaminoAir8 ай бұрын
Just subscribed to your channel, after watching three of your reaction videos recently. I'm a 56 year old Irishman. When I was younger, Westerns were one of my least favorite films. Over the last 15 years I've completely changed my perspective on them. I now deeply appreciate the more leisurely pace of most westerns. I enjoy the marvelous landscapes contrasted with the intimate focus on the sparse dialogue and body language of the characters. It's a kind of meditative, reflective way of telling stories and revealing personalities.
@keithalanbaker5358 ай бұрын
Two other versions worth checking out are Gunfight at the Ok corral starring Burt Lancaster and Kirk Douglas and Hour of the gun starring James Garner and Jason Robards.
@indiecab95938 ай бұрын
Henry Fonda always played a hero, the exception in his older age was once upon a Time in the west
@robertmaez67068 ай бұрын
Never let the truth get in the way of a good story.
@thomast85398 ай бұрын
I think Ford had to bring Fonda (Wyattt) and Cathy Downs (Clementine) back out to Monument Valley to shoot that last scene between them after primary filming had already completed. Ford was having trouble with producer Darryl Zanuck and had to modify the film to make the story work to everyone's satisfaction.
@kermitcook84988 ай бұрын
Looking good all cowgirled up, Madison. This was my second OK Corral movie. Burt Lancaster and Kirk Douglas. Song by Frankie LaIne. Also misrepresentational. These movies led to my disappointment when I went to Tombstone and learned the true story. Hollywood storytelling at its peak. So thankful that TOMBSTONE and WYATT EARP were more accurate. Evil Walter Brennan as Judge Roy Bean with Gary Cooper. Walter was in dozens of westerns. Loved him as Jimmy Stewart's side kick in the FAR COUNTRY. Victor Mature as Doc. He really liked playing a strong guy. Great as Samson. More than 50 shows out there for viewing. I think among his last was playing Samson's father. Henry made a number if westerns. Two or three with Jimmy Stewart. CHEYENNE SOCIAL CLUB is my favorite. Thanks for sharing.
@mikaelkarlsson29298 ай бұрын
This is a favorite, and in my opinion superior to Tombstone, with the fake moustaches (except for Sam Elliott), and a fantastic Val Kilmer. But this one has some kind of magic to it,
@BDUBZ498 ай бұрын
Everyone except John Tenney (Sheriff Behan) grew a real mustache.
@larryairgood43208 ай бұрын
"The Ox-Bow Incident" (1943, black and white) from the critically acclaimed and best selling novel of the same name, starring Henry Fonda, Dana Andrews, Harry Morgan, and Anthony Quinn, is an interesting and chilling story about vigilante justice. Movie ratings: IMDb 8/10, Amazon 4.7 out of 5, Rotten Tomatoes 92 %. A western with an actual theme. You might want to give it a watch.
@charlessperling70315 ай бұрын
It is so heartening to see all these recommendations of "The Ox-Bow Incident." Samuel Goldwyn said of "The Best Years of Our Lives" that he didn't care whether it made any money so long as every man, woman and child in the country saw it. Director William Wellman had to go to all of the Hollywood studios before he could find one that was willing to make it. That was 20th Century Fox, and its head, Darryl Zanuck, accepted it with this observation: "If won't make a dime, but I want my name on it."
@Tomloser43218 ай бұрын
My favorite Henry Fonda - John Ford film...................FINALLY someone from Madison's patrons suggested this classic. The only film I've seen Walter Brennan playing a bad dude rather than a comedic sidekick !!
@Reclining_Spuds8 ай бұрын
Check him out in "How the West Was Won." It was a small supporting part, yet oh so bad. 👍👍
@charlessperling70315 ай бұрын
@@Reclining_Spuds His Judge Roy Bean in "The Westerner" is no paragon, either.
@SueProv8 ай бұрын
Victor Mature playing a supposedly dying man with TB. Its a 200 lb man. Loved how he coughed continuously but never coughed during Chihuahuas surgery. Gunfight at OK Corral with Kirk Douglas as Doc and Burt Lancaster as Wyatt Earp. Also interesting.
@CarolinaCharles7778 ай бұрын
Two lesser known but interesting takes are HOUR OF THE GUN, with James Garner and Jason Robards as Earp and Holliday...also DOC with Stacy Keach.
@BlueShadow7778 ай бұрын
Many people (in fact, probably most) preferred “Tombstone” to the 1992 Costner version “Wyatt Earp” but, me, I actually preferred the latter. I felt it was grittier, more down to earth and with downbeat undertones, considering Earp’s almost depressive state.
@BDUBZ497 ай бұрын
*minor note- Tombstone came out in Dec '93. Costner's Earp came out 6 months later..June '94
@josephmayo32538 ай бұрын
For more Linda Darnell, Mark of Zorro and Hangover Square. Victor Mature, The Las Vegas Story and Samson & Delilah. And Henry Fonda, On Golden Pond and Grapes of Wrath.