My Different Colored C64 Breadbins

[@RobA500]

I have nothing against painting old computers, when done well it gives them a nice fresh new look. The dark chocolate 64 looked really nice.

[@cheater00]

14:19 funny stomach sound lol

[@RETRONuts]

My C64 is black.. :)

[@waldevv]

I imagine you could use some of those new "plastidip" paints, if there's one that works on regular plastics like this since they're usually meant for cars. That way you could simply peel off the paint to restore it back to original or if you got bored of it, or paint it to a different color entirely. The rough texture on most old electronics might be a problem though but just a thought I had

[@PaymaanJafari]

An old Commodore 64 user/programmer here. You don't know how I appreciate your videos! Thank you.

[@IanThatMetalBassist]

I'd call that Vic-20/C-64 hybrid a Vicsty Four

[@BillyMartin4Life]

or you can call it the VIC-40 (Since that was the code name of the C64 when they were developing it)

[@lactobacillusprime]

TIP: Using a genesis controller (unmodified) on a C64 is ill advised. Even though the plug fits and it seems to work well it can cause the C64 to fail. The unmodified genesis controller pulls some lines high that the c64 expects to be low and it can actually eventually break the CIA. Stick to 100% compatible sticks or modifiy the Genesis control pad to avoid breaking it.

[@geezerdiamond]

lactobacillusprime Was just about to make this same post. Please don’t hold down the start button on that control pad; not if you value the SID chip!

[@Sama3L]

@@geezerdiamond The Master System gamepads are fine though.

[@Richardddoobies]

$DC00 is a sacred location and should not be disrespected.

[@dhpbear2]

11:22 - That rectangle IS the original color. You could call it 'non-weathering' :)

[@jaykay18]

Personally, I'd call them White, Whole Wheat, and Pumpernickel.

[@wadereynoldsgm]

I'd put that white keyboard in the black case, but that's just what I like. Nice collection of 64s. I dug my breadbin C64 that I had when I was a kid in the 80s out of storage last year and restored it and the 1541. Fun project. I even managed to get about half of my floppy disks to work which was unbelievable to me. Fun stuff!

[@w4lsh]

Wow, thank you for sharing the 3d printed clasps, literally yesterday I broke one of them on my mint bread bin putting my Ultimate64 in, really annoying but the plastic is so brittle now it's easily done.

[@nightstah]

Color and logo is spot on for circa 1983 (when I first purchased one). Nice to see one in grade A condition so many years later.

[@freednighthawk]

Wait! Stop! You don't use self etching primer on plastics. Those are designed for bare metal only. For plastics, you need a plastic adhesion promoter or a plastic primer (same thing really). The use of a self etching primer will almost certainly lead to paint flaking over time. Also, clean your parts really really really well before paining. I recommend TriSodium Phosphate (TSP) which you can purchase at any home improvement store.

[@JamesPotts]

Some (many?) self-etching primers will prime plastic, they just don't benefit from the acid. They won't prime as well as plastic-specific primers, but certainly better than not priming.

[@semco72057]

I have two Commodore 64 computers and also have a floppy drive, plenty of software on floppy disc's, some magazines with programs in them for this computer, a joystick, and a few other items for that computer system. I purchased one computer new, and got the other one used along with most of the software as well. I have not used them in some years as I have many other modern computers which I use regularly. There is a tape player, and probably another joystick around the house somewhere for this system. That computer you have is nice looking and I love the graphics on it. I had to get another power cable for the computers and the one I purchased have a case which is designed to let the user replace the fuse when it blows where the Commodore box didn't have the opening to replace the fuse, which is the main problem when the fuse blows.

[@HoboVibingToMusic]

VIC20 + C64 White keys. What a beauty. God i wish i had one :P

[@Krisztian5HUN]

I need a Resat / Resart button!!!

[@bluehatguy4279]

You may be able to remove the permanent marker by scribbling over it with a dry erase marker. I've had it work on painted computer cases. It might also work on plastic.

[@dunebasher1971]

The C64 was a great machine, but I honestly think the Atari 400/800 were more impressive. Designed in 1978, released in 1979, they were ridiculously powerful for the time. The C64 had the advantage of being three years younger, but its hardware was only marginally superior to the Ataris, and in fact with many commercial games that existed on both systems, the Atari version was faster and smoother.

[@dunebasher1971]

When the C64 launched, it was about $100 more expensive than the Atari 800.

[@DarthGylcolious]

Adrian, you can use a dry erase marker as a solvent for sharpie. You heavily scribble over the letters with the dry erase marker and then wipe off. It can take several repetitions but it works. *Then* clean up with IPA.

[@trr94001]

Nothing controversial here. The C64 was the better gaming machine while the Apple II was a better productivty/programming/hobbyist machine since it was designed before the Home Computer/Business Computer split.

[@bitset3741]

And expansion. Apple II's had some great expansion capabilities. A fully expanded C64 was a table of cables

[@metalheadmalta]

H.E.R.O... best game ever!!! Great vid. Get well soon.

[@robertmiles9942]

Maybe this won't work for that particular marking pen ink (I remember those particular pens, quite nasty) but for getting stuff out of textured plastic, I've found baking soda works really well. You just wet it, slop it on there as a paste and scrub it with your fingers. It goes down into the pits and abrades out the offending material, but seems to be softer than the plastic and won't affect the finish. Works great on crayon. You can wet it with IPA for sharpie ink, etc. Great alternative to magic eraser which WILL change the finish and probably won't get down in the pits either. Wet baking soda and your fingers also work wonders on the gold contacts on PCBs like the user port, tape port and game carts. Gets ALL the black stuff off in seconds but doesn't abrade the gold (thanks 8-bit Guy). Meguiar's Plast-X and Magic Eraser are good partners in crime. Magic eraser can abrade and reduce shine, PlastX can micropolish and add shine. You can use these items alternately to adjust the finish and make it uniform when needed.

[@MegaManNeo]

From what I know the C64G was the German exclusive variant that they released as third revision at some point, but don't quote me on that. I love the black paint job on one of your breadbins though, it really looks like you were to put the 116 case on the 64 which - surprise - is actually black.

[@dantootill]

Rumour has it there were a bunch of third-party add ons for the German market that wouldn't physically fit on the C64C. Another tale tells that the C64G was created from the failed C64GS console, in that Commodore repurposed the motherboards from unsold units to turn them back into full computers. This is still disputed.

[@SwedishEmpire1700]

The C64G was sold at Aldi supermarkets for internal german market and had german letters installed or something, thats the basical difference.The "G" stands for "German" and was basically Commodore dumping lots of parts into the market as computers.

[@s33k100]

Lot of little things wrong in this thread. Yes, the 'G' did stand for 'German', as, for whatever reason, the breadbin was more popular there (maybe that thing about mods not fitting the 'C' case), but the 64G is not the Aldi-64, that's a separate, earlier production run, around 1987ish, using a cost reduced motherboard (not sure if it's the long or short board) that later went into the 64Cs, along with the 'early C' keyboard, with the front-printed sublegends in grey. Notably the Aldi-64 used the original brown breadbin, not the beige one of the G. The G was a later run, indeed using up 'short' motherboards of the late 64C type, that had been salvaged from disassembled 64GS machines (the sales on that were lower than Commodore expected... cause they were idiots). The G also used the late era, cost reduced 64C keyboard, with top-printed sublegends in the same black as the main characters. Aside from that, the Aldi 64 had the traditional red power LED, while the 64G had a unique green power LED. Also, the black breadbin was the C16, not the 116, the 116 was the hideous chicklet keyboard version that looked like a shrunken Plus/4 Of course, Commodore was infamous for just combining parts that were laying around shop floors, so there are some weird one-offs out there too.

[@bryanmillar8103]

That white 64 with the white keys is exactly how I envisage my next project to look like, once I'm finished.

[@Xs2...]

For that new project. Commodore background-blue. For those blue-mondays

[@johnjoyce]

I’d love to see some rainbow variations of breadbins

[@seansretroverse9082]

Hey Adrian, when talking about Apple II versus Commodore 64 games, I had a similar feeling as you did. I grew up with a Commodore 64, and always considered the Atari computers as inferior in comparison. Yup, I was a Commodore snob. :D Later, when I got into collecting the Atari 8-bit computers, I first found them very similar to the C64 versions of some games, but then I started to notice how much better some of the Atari 8 bit computer games were when compared to the C64. Clearly, it varies from game to game on these two computers, but the video chip on the Atari 8-bit computers had much more than the 16 colors of the C64. It really made some of the games really pop for the Atart 8-bit computers. I feel like our experiences as kids were biased toward what we had, and thinking how awesome they were at the time. Most families couldn't afford to buy more than one computer, and had to pick one and stick with it. As kids it was easy to think how what we have is the best. It's funny to think about how we all vehemently defended our computers at home! Thanks for sharing your insight on that! Now we have some disposable income as adults, we can see what the grass was like on the other side of the fence, so to speak. We then find that the other consoles and computers we didn't have were pretty awesome in their own right! Keep up the awesome work on your videos! I thoroughly enjoy your channel!

[@mikhail6289]

Wow, painted one really looks good!

[@SootHead]

Loved the "old 'puter resto 101" and to see some of your tricks. If I didn't have 10 million other things to occupy my hands, this could be a fun hobby!

[@mrjsv4935]

My first computer was Salora Manager (known elsewhere as Vtech Laser 2001) which has painted case from the factory. At least it doesn't yellow but it has some wear marks by now. Second computer was Commodore 64 C, the newer, 128 like case design. I don't remember anymore how those Petscii characters were in they keyboard. I don't have it anymore because I sold it in 1991. Silly me, have regretted it ever since :D Now I have the Mini C-64. As for painting the Commodore 64 case, each of their own. Personally, I'd like to keep them as original as possible as there probably aren't too many original Commodore 64's left in this world anymore, at least in working condition. According to Wikipedia, maybe 14 million 64's were made but comparing that to for example Playstation 1 which was made 102,49 million units, it's not much. Commodore Amiga 500 is even more rare, made only 4-5, maybe 6 million units. By now, many of them are probably recycled or otherwise demolished. Therefore every one still existing, original and non-modified Commodore 64 or Amiga, is more and more valuable, just my personal view :)

[@svenpetersen1965]

Absolutely nice. I think, it is ok to paint a case, that is in a bad condition. The first C64 that I have bought in this millennium came in a very broken case. There were holes drilled into it and one corner was broken off. I have stuffed it with epoxy putty, which worked fine. I have spray painted it in blue, which looks less good, than I have expected it to. And also the color chips off easily, although I had used a plastic primer. So think, that I will sand it a bit, use more than one layer of primer and paint it in black matt. Some day way in the future :-) The C64G is a bread bin with a short board inside. I have a couple, because I like the bread bin case much better than the C64C, because it is higher and mods are installed easier. My C64G were all build between 1988 and 1990. There was probably a demand for that case style, or it was an early retro thing.

[@randymoyer5351]

Maybe you can even paint them in different colors like Red,Green,Blue or any Color you like best, but could make them blend in with other things in each room one is in even, be a neat project to try.

[@dhpbear2]

12:00 - Paint it Electric Blue! That'll disguise that horrible (and misspelled in 3 places: 'CARTERADGE', 'SEREAL', 'RESART') Sharpie lettering.

[@elfenmagix8173]

I like what you did there. Commodore did released a white C64 for the Aldi Department store in (West) Germany. If you find one it would be a PAL machine.

[@maglekaer1]

Are they not grey?? kzbin.info/www/bejne/iGG2Z2SCaLuslZI

[@jamesbennettmusic]

"ruined" yeah as if C64's are so incredibly rare... haha. They look great! I always wanted to do a bright orange breadbin just to be obnoxiously late 70s looking, but I ended up going with a C64c instead and keeping it stock, apart from chrome guitar knobs along the vents for built-in synth pots, and a red LED. Wonder if that replacement keycap kickstarter ever came to anything...

[@thewiredmaniac3889]

My dad is a maintenance man, and he has an amazing graffiti remover, i cant remember the brand.... but if needed i can get it, but it doesn't ruin the texture of surfaces, it works almost instantly and can sometimes polish the plastics up....

[@00Skyfox]

“Creamy dreamy” and “Chocolate love”...sounds like a little bit of Commodore porn there! HERO is one of the best games ever and one of my all time favorite games. I got my copy from a friend in the mid-80s and still love to play it. That and Gyruss...just superb gaming!

[@TheSputnikUtah]

about the marker on the back of the case that labels the ports; i bought a used c64 also and someone did the same thing. I used a gasoline water mixture to remove the marker. although be careful as gas will melt plastic. so ya it made the back of my c64 smooth. you might also just try wd-40 might help remove that perm marker

[@75slaine]

Nice collection Adrian. The pain job on the Chocolate 64 was really good. Perifractic has a nice c64c case that’s painted with the SX-64 colors and and older breadbin keyboard. Looks really good. Wouldn’t mind using similar colors on the breadbin case.

[@franciscomeza8905]

Cool colors dude. If the original color of is pristine leave, if it suffers from jaundice lol , new color is pretty cool.

[@matthewsmithau]

Great job Adrian - they look terrific 👏👏👏

[@xnonsuchx]

As long as the paint job isn't splotchy, I think it's OK. It would be nice to get custom new injection-molded cases for things, though.

[@marinahildebrand5868]

The C64G was a special deal between Commodore and ALDI in Germany. So for all intents and purposes the G stands for Germany ;-)

[@EgonOlsen71]

Well, actually the Aldi C64 is different from the C64G. But the G stands for german anyway.

[@benbaselet2026]

Check out Jan Beta for his Aldi C64 stuff

[@johnhoogstra8310]

it does stand for Germany but that version was no deal with Aldi since this version kind of replaced the Aldi version.

[@johnhoogstra8310]

@@benbaselet2026 Jan Beta is cool!

[@goatjuggler]

Apple IIc was my first computer (aside from the TI/99a but that doesn't count) I'd love to see you restore one of those edit: I love your videos. I'm a 41 yr old but i'm planning on enrolling in EE courses

[@ManfredRauer]

The Black Cover looks alike a Developer Machine or like a CDTV-Keyboard. I Like it

[@Ale.K7]

The "chocolate" C64 looks really nice!

[@bit-ishbulldog2089]

Is it not a good idea to use a Mega Drive controller on the Commodore 64? It could damage the machine as the extra button/the third button can create a bad voltage.. I know Master System joy pads are ok and safe.. I just remember reading info about 3 or 6 button pads can cause issues. I use a quickshot joystick that has a switch on the bottom that changes to C64/Atari, Amstrad, MSX etc. and I use Master System pads from time to time.

[@lostindesolation2810]

They sure look good! All my breadbins are in way too good condition, so I would feel bad by messing around. Only cosmetic thing I did was a rgb led which indicates irq state plus flashes on data transfer. Actually quite useful when programming/debugging, even though it might look ugly to some people I suppose.

[@corbettknowles9942]

Magic eraser should take that writing off of that case

[@terryraymond7984]

looks better than my only 2 breadbins.

[@DerekWitt]

For a second, I thought the dark C64 case was a custom-made ZX Spectrum case. :)

[@Dukefazon]

No question: Commodore 64 games were the best! For their time, of course. Have you played Creatures 2? It looks, sounds and plays amazing!

[@madfinntech]

Breadbins are cool but I have a weakness for the 64c because that was what I had back in the day.

[@Eightbitswide]

I tried the Krylon for plastics paint on a C64c a few years ago. It DID NOT hold up very well at all. I've been thinking that a possible solution might be to try the plasti-dip spray which will leave a little bit of a rubberized surface, but can be peeled off at any time to restore the machine back to it's original condition.

[@RockwellAIM65]

Coupl'a tho'ts: 1. My skin is somewhat acidic and will eat through any paint it comes in contact with given enough use. Your mileage may vary. Painted TRS-80s never had a chance if I had contact with them as a kid! 2. One reason Commodore may have changed cases around in various ways was this. The winter the C64 went crazy in sales some less ethical folks were taking the C64 apart, replacing the computer with a VIC20 innards and then returning the "C64" for a refund. Those guys essentially got a free, but stolen computer. I read in a story back in the day that Commodore was complaining about it. A friend of a friend had done this so we knew about it his shenanigans. This might answer some questions about parts compatibility. Or it may not. 3. I just like threes. Mars needs women. There.

[@reckarthack3018]

For the case with permanent marker on the side, you can try drawing over it with dry erase marker then erasing it like you would just the dry erase marker

[@jordan177606]

I wonder how well a breadbin would look painted glossy in a bright color like this 64C upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/df/Commodore_64_modded.jpg . You would probably have to sand off the texture with very high grit sandpaper to get a smooth finish, though.

[@CanDoo321]

Good job, I’m doing the same with my breadbins

[@chakyikac6781]

Here's a suggestion for that beatup C46 empty case: Take those 3 shades of breadbin brown and do the camo.

[@gettingpast4391]

Denatured alcohol should remove that marker. They painted one actually looks great. I'm against painting but that one may have changed my mind.

[@IDPhotoMan]

@Adrian Black Great video - love the painted version. But wow, that Hello Kitty Lover Man has it out for you lol.

[@Dukefazon]

16:20 - The Commodore 1571is nor a rare and expensive drive and you have 3 of them, that's insane!

[@KennethSorling]

For that case you're considering painting, consider the delicious Ferrari red that Perifractic chose for one of his recent projects.

[@HuntersMoon78]

My C64c is bright orange, Breadbin is untouched - VIC 20's, 1 is blue and the other is untouched.

[@proxy1035]

from the way he talks about them i fear that he might actually sleep with some of them... also 9:51 aahhhh, an Uncovered EPROM!

[@CommodoreFan64]

I have no issues with painting a case in that bad of shape, but I do have issues with one that's in very good shape, and in that case I say clean it up best as you can to provide a good example of what was to future generations.

[@fluffycritter]

Would a multicart adapter or other such riser card work with the Vic-20 case C64, allowing you to use cartridges without modding the case?

[@Mr76Pontiac]

hmmm.. I might do this to my 128. She's pretty yellowed (Almost orange in comparison to the non-yellowed areas), and I love looking at it..... Easier than retrobrite, and probably will retain the color better. Wonder what Plastidip kind of stuff would do?

[@bobz1736]

Love your videos and enthusiasm 😀

[@crapcbm]

c16 case, have fit a lonely vic-20 board inside a c16 case (c16 has no use for me and was deead), c64 keyboard and cutted out the rear side, so it is the same openings like in vic-20

[@enginecrzy]

how about automotive aerosol vinyl / carpet dye or shoe scuff magic touch up? These might not applicate as thick as paints & prevent covering up textures and details.

[@mertuckan]

'G' stands for Germany

[@stevesstuff1450]

Weren't those 'cream' C64s an ALDI exclusive special edition? It seems to ring a faint bell...!

[@Ice_Karma]

Regarding the _Creamy Dreamy C=64_ keyboard: "One of these things is not like the others; one of these things doesn't belong." =3

[@Sharklops]

The Commodore 64-G was so-named because it was specially made for Germany

[@yorgle]

I've swapped around keycaps between brown (C64), tan (64C) and gray (C-16) to make a multicolor keyboard, with main keys in different colors than modifier keys, etc. (like an Amiga) The '16 has some differences (restore, F-keys, arrows, etc) so i had to be a bit creative with respect to those. I should at least use a spare at-tiny and do the "hold restore to reset" mod, even without the multi rom support... and perhaps shove a raspi into mine for mass storage/SDIDE-like support... hmmm

[@yorgle]

Oh, and you might want to takje that yellowed one and put it out in the sun for a few days to airbright it (no cream etc... just sunlight)

[@rivards1]

User Lighter Fluid on the Sharpie words, they should come right off!

[@gnustep]

Looks AWESOME!

[@terryraymond7984]

The Vic-20 only has one joystick port

[@YugoZex]

Iit brings me back in time...

[@wannaberetro2495]

there is also a vic 20 with a low profile case I have one

[@BapsyGames]

How did your guy get such a nice finish on the Brown Case... My paint jobs never turn out that good... Nice Job Man :-)

[@BapsyGames]

Did he thin the paint and use his own sprayer... Or is the paint just that good out of the Can? Thanks for Quick reply btw :-)

[@loganjorgensen]

What how dare you, Apple II games were the pinnacle of gaming with their blue & orange color scheme, Wozniak is turning in his grave. ^_^ It's "G" for Groovy. ;) Interesting case properties, paint seems okay if it's very bad already. Those new multi-color shells look pretty good too, kind of an Apple thing, Blueberry heh.

[@rick420buzz]

Jobs might be turning in his grave, Woz is still with us.

[@loganjorgensen]

@@rick420buzz Yes, that's part of the tom foolery. :|

[@andysimpson8974]

G = Germany I believe they were sold through the German supermarket chain Aldi.

[@Alphonsefisheater]

C64 Love-in .

[@wanjockey]

tldr: have you tried brake clean? I use it all the time to remove perm markers.

[@CB3ROB-CyberBunker]

it's odd... i think all the c64's and atari 800xl's back then kinda made me miss out on the plus/4 back then, which on the whole is a far better machine than either of those 2 rather messy contraptions. clean design. actual rs232. built in monitor (nope. don't really give a crap about 'sprites' or 'games', and while back then i did give a crap about basic being present today i think i would prefer it if they all booted straight into tedmon and never had any basic at all (for those whose only basic they know is LOAD "$",8 and LIST it seriously would not matter, they can load and run from a monitor just as easily. even with shorter commands ;)

[@ChristopherSobieniak]

We had a C64 in our house but my older brother hogged it all the time.

[@gbclab]

I removed nasty writtens of a permanent marker on my breadbin using backing soda and a LOT of hand working....try it on yours....

[@MD_il_microcanale]

Like number 560! Very good video and nice Commodore collection!

[@signaltome]

Actually I feel like the original C64 color is... not very inspired? So I like the white and... brown? I have to say it looks almost black on the video but that might be the KZbin compression or whatever. Anyway, I am not really a purist of any kind and to me they look just fine. ;-) Hope you get well soon.

[@s3vR3x]

Adrian, do yourself a favor and get a Pi1541 setup. You wont regret it

[@georgechambers3197]

Please paint that nasty C64 case. 😀 It's one I bought on eBay to fix the others keyboard. Get well soon, we need more Commodore videos. Thanks for this video!

[@pakesparks1571]

Where is the anthill c64?

[@dennisp.2147]

Uh, oh. Prepare for the swarm of angry Apple fanbois.

[@britsluver]

I want a pink bread bin

[@bitset3741]

WD40 takes off marker - I had an Atari 65XE with auction marks all over it. WD40 took it all off with no damage at all.

[@GORF_EMPIRE]

They all look great. Some folk get way to anal about originality.

[@Okurka.]

16:24 How can anybody hate this after yesterday's video?

[@terryraymond7984]

I like em all

[@tenminutetokyo2643]

DOOOOD!!!!

[@cee128d]

Self Etching Primer is ONLY useful on BARE Metal. It does little to nothing useful on plastic. For Plastic you need specific PLASTIC Primer.

[@oktawian3027]

I hate youtube notifications

[@maicod]

I'm remembering my C64 had yellowbrown function keys. Maybe that was only on a PAL edition made for europe.

[@Doug_in_NC]

I don’t remember the function key color for the 64, but my PAL VIC-20 definitely had the yellow-brown function keys.

[@maicod]

@@Doug_in_NC starting to think I confused my Vic-20's function keys with my C64's

[@LaneDenson]

@@maicod Since the keyboards/cases were interchangable between the two systems, Commodore often just used whatever was available in the early 64 days. So you'll find C64s that have the taller Vic-20 style cases, and some with the Vic-20 keyboards that have the orange-ish function keys.

[@maicod]

@@LaneDenson Thanks Lane !