My Experience Undergoing Lacanian Analysis

[@iammatilam]

Graphic designer here. Same journey but I "stumbled upon" a Lacan therapist. All my life, I run away from Freudians and later came to his work through books when I started my graphic design studies, quickly dropped him when I discovered the semiologist Roland Barthes and went to Jung but didn't have access to a Jungian, so I just refused therapy. Years later, another country, another life, and a major physical disability due to neurological inflammation, I "stumbled upon" a Lacanian. It’s soon my 2nd and a half year with him, first therapist who lasted more than 3 sessions: truly life-changing, one of my biggest teacher and best healer. I would love to have a discussion with you! We seem to have a similar background (although I’m 30), and I’ll happily share my experience with you.

[@LacanofWorms]

Absolutely remarkable. We definitely do have lots in common! I would also love to have a discussion with you. Feel free to reach out to my email [e-mail] Cheers!

[@Lfkfmfnfhdhdhdbhd]

Dying from excitement!!! I was so bored of seeing theoretical interpretations everywhere, thank youuuu so much

[@LacanofWorms]

Thank you!

[@jenniferh.7219]

Taking a few minutes to realize he's not talking about Leukemia analysis... I appreciate this. I have AVPD & began with Object Relations Theory (very helpful) and have been migrating in my knowledge, lacan is next.

[@LacanofWorms]

Never fully got the chance to get into Klein. I’ve read Love, Guilt and Reparations which I found very insightful. But Lacan has been my primary focus for the past 2 years or so. I definitely want to properly familiarize myself with her work. I keep hearing her name pop up from the analysts and people I’ve met so far. Leukaemia analysis however, that I know nothing about 😂

[@Birutaginkgolab]

Thanks for sharing your experience. I felt somehow you helped me to get strength to go trough analysis myself. Hugs from Brazil❤

[@LacanofWorms]

Thank you! Hugs from Canada!

[@yorcolinto]

Muito importante a sua disponibilidade em compartilhar sua trajetória! Estou há dois anos e meio em análise com uma lacaniana. Cada sessão um trabalho a realizar e viver a vida com um gosto diferente

[@victorlandaverde3063]

Death of judgement follows death of responsibility because the self does not hold itself accountable.

[@gonzaloleon5173]

yes, that's nietzsche's atheism for ya

[@LacanofWorms]

Great point

[@clevergadget]

Great to have someone give me content to straight compare to my experience, subscribed hoping for more 🙇‍♂️🙇‍♂️🙇‍♂️

[@LacanofWorms]

Glad to hear that🙌

[@missusabrahamcult7697]

Also a Canadian! Interesting to hear about someone else being an analysand. Been doing 3/week for the past 2 years. Freudian though. Couldn't handle being cut short in session. I totally understand about the learning to deal with our stuff by ourselves. Emotional maturity... I've come a long way with my analyst. Best of luck to you! Looking foward to watching new content!

[@LacanofWorms]

The short sessions are truly very cumbersome. I’m happy to hear you’ve came a long way with your analysis. Best of luck to you too!

[@smurfette6499]

Thank you for this, exactly what I was looking for 🙏🏽 ❤

[@LacanofWorms]

Thank you! Didn’t know smurfs were interested in psychoanalysis

[@smurfette6499]

@@LacanofWorms they are indeed 😂

[@calebnailson7508]

Thank you for sharing your experience!

[@LacanofWorms]

My pleasure!

[@vinzaux]

hi, i'm also undergoing lacanian analysis, and your video is very useful to understand it a bit better. thank you!!!

[@JamesKrendel-Clark]

This was interesting to watch. I've been in analysis for years (with someone who is more or less Lacanian), and my experience has been that the question of transference inasmuch as the analyst is an authority or sujet-supposer-a-savoir is not without importance but I think if you continue you may find that whether or not you are "resisting" in that sense becomes less important as you get more in touch with your own discourse. Also, the processing of theoretical/philosophical or even as you mention here religious ideas can certainly take place within the context of analysis but I think that eventually, again, it's about your own discourse and the analyst isn't an "ego ideal". Also, Freud's "Traumdeutung" in my opinion is still the deepest and last word on psychoanalytic theory, although obviously Lacan is fascinating but don't be afraid to be critical and/or suspicious of what he says since he's very inconsistent and coy, if not a little bit obnoxious :). But I'm always revisiting his writing especially from the Ecrits. My favorite line from him currently is "do crossword puzzles".

[@stefanoragni]

I wish I had started psychoanalytic therapy as early as you have.. I am in therapy 3 times a week with a Klenian/Biionian analyst, and I am studying psychotherapy too. My supervisor is Lacanian and my university tutor Jungian.... Quite a mix 🤔 I have found your video interesting, honest and brave.

[@LacanofWorms]

The frequency of your sessions seems so interesting to me - I wish I could afford that😂. I honestly think analysis calls out onto the subject when it’s the right time. Feel free to reach out to my email at [e-mail] I’d love to continue our chat.

[@kacperurbanczak9106]

Hey, I came here looking for people experiencing analysis and not literature examples. I am from Poland, and it sometimes feels like there is no one around eager to talk about life. Not wandering on Lacanian analysis. Paradoxically, it makes me think about moments in analysis when you can feel alienated. Thank you for sharing, found it brave

[@LacanofWorms]

Greetings! Thank you for your sharing, deeply appreciated. The more sessions I have the more I start to realise it’s not about theory, literature or this big intellectual game. At the end of the day Lacanian Psychoanalysis like all forms of psychoanalysis is therapy. I think it’s very important to establish that. We often forget. Feel free to reach out to me via email at [e-mail] if you are interested in keeping the conversation going. Cheers, and thanks again for commenting!

[@liamnewsom8583]

Hey, loved this y'know. 😂

[@Lfkfmfnfhdhdhdbhd]

4:24 “I got none of them you know” immm crying, so real

[@LacanofWorms]

😂

[@birdwatching_u_back]

WONDERFUL little video! And great channel title too! 💙

[@LacanofWorms]

Thank you!

[@rogergarnier7873]

Merci pour ce témoignage riche et précis. Il ne devrait pas y avoir de contre transfert. L'analyste lacanien débarassé de son moi en séance n'est pas un autre (alter ego) mais un Autre (uniquement en lien avec l'inconscient de l'analysant).

[@LacanofWorms]

Merci à toi de m’avoir écouté!

[@user-lb6ml8or4r]

This was very interesting and helpful thank you!

[@user-lb6ml8or4r]

Also you mad cute

[@LacanofWorms]

Glad it was helpful!

[@user-lb6ml8or4r]

@@LacanofWorms btw im down to chat im studying psychology

[@LacanofWorms]

@@user-lb6ml8or4r Awesome I’d love to. You can reach me at [e-mail]

[@simoninsilence1427]

Firstly...thanks. Next...bits that I don't think are in the video that you might've planned? Variable sessions...and how they work out (or not) for you? Have you moved to in-person sessions or still 'camera off' online? Lots more stimulated by your video... Really support you in posting more. But...(obvs up to you etc.) 🖤

[@LacanofWorms]

Hey thank you for your comment and yea I realized that I forgot to mention variable length sessions right after I uploaded the vid haha. Here you go: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mGK8p2CYq62hqpI

[@alexander63736]

time to lacanmaxxx

[@Theorychad99]

You know you know you know

[@v-ba]

Thank you

[@MaryMcDonnell-n1e]

thank you. Interesting

[@LacanofWorms]

Glad you found it interesting.

[@chauste4340]

I'm curious how you came to the decision that psychoanalysis would be best-suited for you as opposed to traditional behavioral therapy? In my view one of the potential advantages of traditional therapy is that to some degree our mental conscious is determined by our underlying neurochemistry, so if you're struggling with something like anxiety or depression you might argue that there's not really any underlying philosophical discussion or psychoanalytic investigation to be had, what you need is to experiment with medication, behavioral solutions that allow you to participate in the world better and so on. On the other hand, of course we have anxiety and form depressive states about things we attach to in our lives, so it seems that getting into the root of these states could be helpful in resolving them. I'm curious to what extent you've explored / come to understand this balance between the extent to which we can be psycho-analyzed versus treated (in a traditional therapy context) as you've developed in comparison to your logic going in (since you chose psychoanalysis over traditional therapy).

[@LacanofWorms]

I find that the great thing and probably the most important factor of "traditional therapy" is its direct and hands-on approach. You are provided with practical solutions to your problems or at least an approach to solving them, via behavior analysis or other practical means. One thing that made me choose psychoanalysis over traditional therapy was the opportunity to free-associate without having what I say be taken literally. To be able to blurt out absolutely everything that comes to mind, no matter how "inappropriate" or taboo it may be. Also, the nature of transference between the analyst and analysand. The role of the analyst is crucial within psychoanalysis, and it is important for me, at least, that the person I am speaking to in the therapeutic setting does not assume a parental, amicable, or authoritarian position. I previously had CBT therapy back when I was in high school, and although it helped me back then, I really disliked the biological reductionism within the approach, and I did not want to be prescribed medication. However, to play devil's advocate, when I had my CBT sessions, I was in a state where I felt overwhelmed by my thoughts and would have constant panic attacks. In some sense, "thinking" or "analyzing" was of no use - I needed a practical solution, not a "theoretical" one. At the end of the day, both forms of therapy are just that, forms of therapy. When I started my analysis a little bit over a year ago, I did not find myself suffering from any habitual or behavioral patterns that I found haunting me. Socially, I was doing what I was supposed to do: "being a good student," "having a good job," "having good relationships with the people around me." But yet I still found myself primarily feeling shame, guilt, and low confidence. I knew that these feelings were associated with some elements of my upbringing and my sexual nature. I was also very interested in Lacanian analysis at the time and had been reading psychoanalytic literature for four years at that point, so that no doubt played a role.

[@kjmontalv1]

Bro 21. I got introduced to Lacan in my 30's

[@LacanofWorms]

In 10 years I’ll still probably know fk all😂

[@desigrrl08]

what made you want to look for Lacanian psychoanalysis? I guess how did you come by Lacan in the first place? was it from something you were studying or was it from the guidance of someone for example?

[@LacanofWorms]

At the moment it felt like the right idea. I was always interested in the theoretical concepts of psychoanalysis, the more I read, the more I wanted to get psychoanalysed. Last year I decided to finally reach out to an analyst, at that time I was interested in Lacan so I thought finding a Lacanian would probably help with my difficulties understanding his work. As to how I came by Lacan, I was having a very intense conversation with a close brother of mine who reads psychoanalytic literature with me on the nature of language and the unconscious. We so happened to stumbled upon Lacan’s famous quote that « the unconscious is structured like a language » and the rest is history. I am No way near understanding Lacan but I can say that I experientially learned a lot via my sessions which have indirectly facilitated my readings of his works.

[@desigrrl08]

@@LacanofWorms hey, thanks so much for your response. all you say makes a lot of sense to me from the standpoint of my own journey with lacan's thought. thanks for the video, it is wonderful to see such refreshingly open sharing, reinforces warmth for me in a world is in need of these days.

[@LeCoolCroco]

Okay did they tell you about the concepts like Death of The Father? Thinking is not being? Also, if not a secret, what were you left with after the analysis? Thanks for the video, very interesting 👍

[@LacanofWorms]

Hey I answered this question in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fYfMZnqdh7Orh9E

[@mariadelaruiz7382]

Thank you for sharing your experience. I usually find it challenging to explain to people what lacanian analysis is like without sounding too vague or bogus. Do you think the fact that the session is virtual affects the transferencial dynamic? I do both phone and in person sessions and I personally feel a difference.

[@LacanofWorms]

I am sure if I had my sessions in person I would also see a difference. Maybe I’ll change down the line but for now I can say that the virtual sessions are not interfering with the therapy. Took me a little while in the beginning to get used it though and that’s when I had a lot of transference.

[@brazilnutshoe]

Thank you for the video! I’m wondering if anyone here would be interested in starting a [Lacanian] cartel or discussion group. Preferably within or close to the European time zone (not strict though). Reply to this comment and we’ll work out how to get in touch 😊

[@LacanofWorms]

Hey for sure, that sounds like a great idea. I know there are a couple of Lacanian Discussion groups I can refer you to but I am also in the process of making a discord server for this channel. Let me know if this is something you’d be interested in? You can reach me at [e-mail] and I can send you to the Lacanian Discord server that I am currently in. Cheers,

[@brazilnutshoe]

Cool!! Thank you very much@@LacanofWorms, speak soon!

[@ZoneTheory73]

what was the website? I'm doing a Lacanian analysis but it's not really going anywhere

[@LacanofWorms]

Not sure if I mentioned it in the video but it’s called - complicated.life

[@Kaa864]

Parts therapy have you looked into that.

[@ZoneTheory73]

@@Kaa864 I don't believe in that stuff

[@carbonunit9314]

👌

[@bogdanandone9022]

Nice one

[@joacoyb8095]

50 euros? is that normal price? (sorry im from the third world)

[@LacanofWorms]

Hey! I’ve seen Analysts charge 2 to 3 times more. 50 euros is around 53USD. But ultimately it all depends on the analyst. Hopefully that clarified things.

[@biletbiletaa4299]

Coming from a "third world" as well. I'm paying 15 euros. cost of living is much cheaper here so prices are lower.

[@v-ba]

I pay 20$ to my analyst. We are both from Ukraine

[@tylerdockendorff4492]

I am a Canadian as well. Every think about becoming an analyst?

[@LacanofWorms]

I am thinking about it a lot. I think it’s something I definitely have a strong interest in becoming. As an undergraduate of IT idk how I’ll bridge into the academic world of psychoanalysis tho haha!

[@tylerdockendorff4492]

@@LacanofWorms I think you have some options depending on where you are. The Toronto institute of psychoanalysis takes people with non clinical backgrounds I think. It's not lacanian though and would limit you to practicing in Ontario. I myself am a therapist in Montreal and am hoping to do training this fall. I don't know much about lacan, Bion and Freud are my interests right now, but I stumbled onto your site and thought it was cool!

[@kellzbellz801]

How do I get into analysis

[@LacanofWorms]

Clinically or theoretically?

[@kellzbellz801]

@@LacanofWorms both. Point me in the right direction please

[@meowzic]

Is the analysis a psychologist/therapist?

[@LacanofWorms]

The analysis is provided by a psychoanalyst not a psychologist.

[@meowzic]

@@LacanofWorms I see. I am currently trying to understand Lacan, and would like to learn more about Jung. But I am currently reading Zizek and I am trying to understand what he is talking about lol

[@LacanofWorms]

Although Zizek uses Lacanian analysis a lot in his theory I wouldn’t recommend him as an introduction to Lacan. You can pick up Lacan’s Seminars as an introduction as well as secondary resources to get to know Lacan better. As for Jung, personally I find his primary texts much more accessible and easier to understand as opposed to Lacan. There is a very big difference between both psychoanalytic approaches - Jungian vs Lacan. But nonetheless a familiarisation of Freud is necessary for understanding both.

[@meowzic]

@karlbrown4078 I can agree with that. Reading his books seems unnecessarily vague and complex. I read Hegel was the same way and maybe Lacan as well.

[@meowzic]

@@LacanofWorms If I wanted to digest and get a better understand foundations of psychology relating to Jung, Lacan, and Freud, etc? Do you have any recommendations for a good overview that compares the concepts as well as more modern concepts from luminaries in the field? I'm not a scholar and know very little about psychology, but id like to expand my introspective worldview as someone who is a lifelong learner interested in science, political philosophy, and existence.

[@alanbeirut3702]

You didn’t say how much you pay

[@LacanofWorms]

@@alanbeirut3702yup realised that after making the video haha. $75 CAD per session

[@JS-dt1tn]

The death of God does not bring about the death of judgement. She doesn't know her Nietzsche. Thats unfortunate. Nietzsche was clear to say we would see the shadow of God perhaps for millennia, disembodied from the cannon, which will cause great confusion and waywardness. For Nietzsche, judgment is essential to human being itself, its what makes possible greatness, culture, etc.

[@LacanofWorms]

Thank you for your clarification. I have been trying to learn Nietzsche with some colleagues the past few months - would you be able to refer me to some of the passages where Nietzsche discusses judgement. I’d greatly appreciate it. As for the session, given the context of what was being said perhaps the goal was not for the analyst to quote Nietzsche with a full understanding of his concepts, what was important was that the concept of how the “big other” does not exist (in this case God/the reification of our existence in an Other ) was expressed within the discourse and how it is not an entity which is the locus of truth, judgement and being for the subject to base his existence on.

[@JS-dt1tn]

@@LacanofWorms I would love to refer you. Outside of the published literature, the unpublished works are just now being put into English and into print. The secondary literature can be helpful as well, Sarah Kofman, Embden, Bertram, stand out for me. I will try and find some specific passages and come back and quote them as well. Nietzsche is difficult because he often contradicts himself, so there is some necessary interpretation needed to reach various versions of him. For example he recoils against metaphysics and yet often gets caught in a naturalistic metaphysic of power, etc. Or his politics is ripe with contradiction, and so on. This is where the secondary literature I listed is super helpful imo. All the best, I will go search for some of his thoughts about the value of judgement.

[@JS-dt1tn]

@@LacanofWorms are you familiar with Zizek's thoughts on God the father dying on the cross during Jesus's crucifixion? I quite like it. And it is very Nietzschean, I would add (he would probably say it is more Hegelian).

[@JS-dt1tn]

@@LacanofWorms I think Zizek would say that the big other exists precisely in/as alienation? Which is why he is often calling for more, not less alienation in society.

[@Kxz716]

it is not advisable to share your analysis.

[@LacanofWorms]

Simply sharing my thoughts of the analysis not the analysis itself.

[@virtualsocialretreat8234]

you keep asking if i know and i don't :/

[@LacanofWorms]

You know?