My Favorite Value Product! 2023 Panini Phoenix Football Hobby Box Review!

[@SLVRsport]

Agree with you I’m a big fan of this set. Guess it’s good it’s not super desirable on the secondary market or it would be $700+ a box too 🤷‍♂️

[@nickk3345]

Most underrated set in the game. I'll take Phoenix over XR, or Gold Standard any day.

[@AcmePacks]

very true i guess we take the good with the bad haha

[@BigWillyScott7]

I'm in the same boat as you guys!! Thx for rip Andy, waiting for my two boxes to arrive. Just the variety of cool cards to me makes it. No clue what SP means in regards to these as well. The design and solid Pics on these are fantastic. I'd think true collectors would love these

[@BigWillyScott7]

Thought the Price was kind of unfortunate on their part, probably raised it $50 b/c of the absolute 2 minute sellout @@AcmePacks

[@i2Shea]

Always love the openings. Glad to see other people who enjoy Phoenix and the H2's as much as I do!! Always good value for both and its pretty hard nowadays with Panini!

[@AcmePacks]

its definitely still high priced but i really do think the market will come down on this one after the price hikes of prizm and basolute.

[@Apillow_]

Always love Phoenix and it’s usually priced reasonably. Do hope it goes back to the $250-275 range soon!

[@AcmePacks]

its still up on panini which gives me hope that the market is rejecting its current price tag

[@OutsideTheBox-bn5yv]

When is the last time any company lowered prices on anything? They don't lower prices unless their product doesn't sell. Since every product sells at whatever price they set, don't expect to see the prices ever come down.

[@lionslucksportscards9835]

Are they really SPs if there’s 20 in every box😂 I agree with you on the Contours. They look great. I was a buyer at $275 for this, but I just can’t do $400. Nice rip! Phoenix is always one of my favorites.

[@AcmePacks]

haha i need to tally up how man SPs there were in this box because no way these sell for more than the base

[@srjwildcat3589]

Yep, was $125-$150 right before the covid invasion and that was up from before.

[@johnhardy643]

I think the sp actually stands for special photo… almost more like a variation.. very strange and misleading but ya oh well panini bein panini

[@UnderPar_Cards]

Nice pulls. I really like the looks of this product. Ordered a box just now in Panini.

[@chad4017]

Are there people that dont like Phoenix? Definitely my favorite product. Halfway through the video so far and love that Allen and JJ. Even the base cards are awesome!

[@AcmePacks]

believe it or not theres a lot of people haha just because it doesnt sell for as say prizm

[@BillsMafia4Lyfe]

By far the best set of this seasons class of cards. Superb set for sure a fact.

[@elijahhanson5230]

I hit a /10 Michael Wilson auto and a /75 Anthony Richardson RPA out of the same box

[@oneofuscards]

Loved ripping last years version, getting it for sub 300 was a dream. I hate that it is so high now

[@TravieTime17]

I love Phoenix! I’m working on collection a bunch of the 2022 staffords

[@TheFoolInTheWall]

I got a 1/50 fire and ice Zach charbonnet

[@yoyo-ml3dx]

$400 I better be guarantee a CJ Stroud color numbered I do like the insert fired up it reminds me of optic my house I'll be looking for those on ebay

[@RetailRipper]

underrated set. definitely looks good every year.

[@AcmePacks]

Couldn't agree more

[@danielkriefall5881]

Fun set Andy, thanks for sharing

[@77bigdave]

I love these and have seen some absolute bangers. I’ll take 2-3 of these over Prizm.

[@BigJMoney82]

I love Phoenix! I ripped a hobby box last year, but I can't pay $400 for it.

[@AcmePacks]

i think these are going to come down in price over the next 2 weeks

[@s.macintosh-jc9rf]

Hi Andy, Thanks for the rip of Phoenix football 2023! I love the design and I always look forward to seeing Phoenix. I don’t know why Phoenix is not more popular but luckily we get sort of a price break compared to Absolute. Have a great weekend, Peter

[@AcmePacks]

one of my favorite products!!

[@Firecracker321g]

I love Phoenix. Cards are always gorgeous.

[@racuya831]

Phoenix stepped their game up this year in my opinion!

[@blakesteele17]

They are some very nice cards! Great rip

[@UbestBEreckonizzed]

Just picked one up today good vibes 🤞🏻

[@coreyreece1243]

Love Phoenix! Can’t wait to get in on a break with this!

[@Indyice]

I do like the design. Wish they gave some clarity on the SP though.

[@AcmePacks]

agreed

[@tjboyd17]

Base rookies look like 2020 Mosaic to be. Wish all kinda had that look but still a nice looking set this year. Wish the singles had more value but not many sets do in todays market.

[@AcmePacks]

i got that vibe too on the design

[@KraigWirkus]

Nice looking cards!

[@Dean14Chiefs22]

I love phoenix and mosaic and PRZIM!

[@shadys_cards]

Nice Josh Allen! Too bad the Bills checklist is kinda meh for this product, but the cards are so sick.

[@NoblePlays]

Started collecting because of your videos! Keep this stuff going brother!

[@AcmePacks]

Thank you!!

[@thekernal0318]

Contours are gorgeous!!! Solid rip Andy thank you

[@AcmePacks]

much improved insert design

[@TheDarkhorseSportsCards]

Thanks for the review!

[@FireAndIceSportcards33]

Have you opened any Phoenix basketball? Hobby and retail are both great

[@AcmePacks]

@FireAndIceSportcards33 yup opened a fotl here on the channel and did well!

[@PapaLu08]

Wounder if maybe you got a God Box, where you get SP’s in every pack

[@floridascratchpack7417]

Your last pack has a regular Brock Purdy and a SP Brock Purdy... The difference is different color jersey and photo

[@DenDonDennis]

Phoenix looks good, I'm sure you saw already but there are 2022 Donruss autos in this set too

[@AcmePacks]

i did and i am not thrilled that panini is just dumped autos into new products

[@DenDonDennis]

@@AcmePacks Panini is definitely throwing in the towel and they are giving people a reason to be excited about Fanatics

[@AcmePacks]

@@DenDonDennis definitely seems that way, they are ruining a lot of good faith with collectors.

[@ManJim]

Couple nice pulls. Great video

[@danielkriefall5881]

Nice Stroud, 2 Purdys and Puka and Hall rpa decent bix

[@imbadatptcgo3227]

I’m just not into any of the newer sets on the fact that no CJ/Bryce/Levis autos.. might aswell shoot for the moon with absolute or donruss tbh

[@CaptShriver]

I absolutely agree. These are absolutely better than absolute

[@BcoopRips]

Can’t wait to open my box. Super underrated set!

[@Kiwicards]

Green lighting nice touch

[@AcmePacks]

Thank you!

[@stanleyfishburne2990]

Pretty good box i wonder if they got hot boxes in each case

[@scottmignone5664]

Great rip Andy, I love me some Phoenix!

[@rjlawson07]

Is “SP” “silver Prizm”? To differentiate the base from the silver, which can be difficult in the chromium cards?

[@adam1161976]

Sp on cards that don't have shimmy shine Like the last purdy pulled So ??????

[@AcmePacks]

its either short print or special photo not sure which one in this case

[@JVDELUCA]

What is the thickness of the mem cards? I got a box on the way and need to buy more toploaders!

[@AcmePacks]

130pt

[@JVDELUCA]

@@AcmePacks Thank you!

[@paulgood2218]

That was a fun box

[@james_maybe]

That panini release price is wild!

[@24skeemers]

Any chance you’d ship that jefferson on over next door to Minnesota ?? lol. But seriously let me know if it’s for sale! Also, which penny sleeves are those? I like how the corners are trimmed

[@AcmePacks]

yessir! shoot me over a message on twitter or instagram and we can work something out!

[@RIPnROAR]

idk if $200 a box is considered a value product, but i hit an Antony Richardson /5 RPA in a JUMBO SPORTS COLLECTIBLES break last night

[@shred_zed1]

One of my favorite products!

[@PickSixCards]

What’s up AP

[@lukeawesometv6161]

Football cards cool 😎

[@PickSixCards]

I agree box was just Ok. But I think phoenix looks great this year

[@peterogness9443]

Great video

[@RileyConner-k5l]

Love your videos keep up the good work

[@Slappywhite555]

Really hope there is a Phoenix H2 this year.

[@AcmePacks]

There is!

[@vikings88420]

Where can I find some "Home made one touch stickers" like you did!? Its a GREAT idea so the magnet doesn't "Slip/the one touch wont open as easily with the sticker on there! So, can you help me out!? I have asked you this question before but it was a longgggg time ago and you never responded to me 😂 all good, Please Respond back to me this time because I could really use some of those stickers for my one touche's!!!!🤞 as always, Great Content?, Love "Phoenix" too! Just never got the chance to open that or "Absolute" I "Think" since I started back up collecting cards was the end of 2021 so really just have never seen it (Phoenix) I "Might" have seen "Absolute" lile back in begging of 2022? N passed because my buddy said they weren't good so I took his word at the time and saved my money, thanks buddy! Please again get back to me on those "one touch stickers" and where can I makey own? Or could you maybe send me lile 5-10 of them and I can "Spread the word" of your channel that way!?... 🤔💡 as always, 🥇🤟💯💯✌️

[@AcmePacks]

i get these made from a company called coyote stickers. Here is their website! www.coyotestickers.com/

[@jeremystokes112]

Still need any n all Kenny's Pickets

[@danielkriefall5881]

It is sad prices way too costly though love Phoenix singles

[@srjwildcat3589]

This has been one of my favorites since they 1st made it. The price is better than most right now, but still compared to the $125-$150 pre covid price, too much. I think these are better than Prizm to be honest. Like this & Optic better than Prizm to be honest. Hope you are having a great weekend and enjoy watching us pluck some feathers tomorrow. We enjoyed the Dolphin 🐬 Sushi 🍣, The Buffalo 🐃 Jerky 🥓, now ready for some Raven 🦅Stew 🥣. 😅😅😅 Thanks for sharing! 🏈🏈🏈🏈🏈🏈🏈🏈🏈 Take Care/Stay Safe ✌ The #125 looks purple from here.

[@AcmePacks]

i just wish phoenix held the hobby longevity that prizm and optic do. im honestly not sure why it doesnt

[@srjwildcat3589]

@@AcmePacks Me too, doesn't make sense to me. I actually think, most years, they look better than both and almost always look better than prizm. JMHO

[@Jefflastork]

Sp had little diamonds in the background

[@bryanwatkins5504]

SP is NOT Short Print. 50 card set and you get the same parallels as the 200 card set

[@AcmePacks]

i feel like it actually stands for special photo. no way they are short print haha

[@MrWeirdBeard]

So I pulled an Anthony Richardson onyx 5/5 dual patch auto. What kinda value do you think it has? $1k??

[@AcmePacks]

i would look up other comps from similar products to see on 130point.com!

[@MrWeirdBeard]

@@AcmePacks thanks! I saw a prizm /10 single patch auto go for $4k so I figured Phoenix could do %25 of that on a /5

[@AcmePacks]

@@MrWeirdBeard i think thats a solid comp!!

[@AjayDoesntMiss]

That christian watson in the back is so sick !

[@AcmePacks]

its one of my absolute favorite cards in my PC!

[@jayr476]

Phoenix for the break$?👀

[@cscards56]

Phoenix has been one of my favorites for a few years. Not so long ago they were $150. Not a fan of the prices boxes are.

[@AcmePacks]

agreed, this should be a $200-250 box in the current state of the hobby

[@Ramiroc]

Why do they add the fillers?

[@AcmePacks]

They do that so in case single packs are sold it hides which packs have the hits in them

[@Young65608]

🔥🔥

[@TerryT324]

Pass at 400

[@lorumheiner6941]

You know the hobby is in a disastrous state when a $400 box is considered a value box.

[@AcmePacks]

its definitely over inflated right now unfortunately

[@jontracy9256]

hey i pulled ur Jayden reed dual patch auto out of 80 i zhink

[@AcmePacks]

👀👀👀

[@hotjoe817]

You know it’s a prizm due to The rainbow effect and the other ones do not have it

[@AcmePacks]

I understand that but in years past all of the inserts have been silver and had “prizm” on the back thats why it was weird

[@hotjoe817]

@@AcmePacks gotcha. That’s panini for ya

[@Chase-v7q]

😮

[@thebreakinggillboys]

Everything is strange with panini. I’m torn. I love this set too but I don’t like the price point and that they threw in donruss 2022 auto.

[@thebreakinggillboys]

You always hit for your pc!

[@AcmePacks]

im right there with you brother, panini has been so weird the last month and something must be going on behind the scenes we dont know about

[@Jordan.G.23]

Any more starwars rips?

[@AcmePacks]

when some new ones come out for sure!

[@mikefromtaradise]

Contours have gone from meh to wow since last year!

[@modernlegend_gaming]

The prices on boxes are ridiculous. People should boycott these companies. Raising prices on new releases because of 3rd party sales what a load of crap no other tcg does this...

[@AcmePacks]

panini is really testing my patience right now with how much they have increased their pricing the last few weeks

[@modernlegend_gaming]

@AcmePacks it's God awful. I love football and I been a tcg guy all my life from pokemon, yugioh, mtg, dbz, dbs you name it I openeded it. And I started looking into football cards bought a few graded and non graded dallas cards. I then thought about doing box openings on KZbin like you and im shock with the prices! And the variations to each box product its absurd.. this is a cash grab there is no love here in there products. Also when people are spending 800 plus on a box of prizm that should be 100-200 bucks a box. It's sad that every prizm opening I have watched there cards are almost certain to be off centered by miles man.. the quality control is horrible

[@SleepingElephant]

Would love to rip these and like the cards. $400 way too much and overpriced for my liking. Most boxes wont reach profit.

[@AcmePacks]

it seems like the market is rejecting the price set by panini too which is awesome. it is still currently available on their website

[@clydeorris4093]

I agree. As far are value and looks. Nothing beats this product. Just tired of the ultra high prices for products that only have fake mem. Sticker autos, and missing the top names. Panini is the devil and needs to be removed from the hobby before they kill it.

[@AcmePacks]

for the last few months i was very much on the side of saying that i was going to miss panini when they no longer make licensed products, but the last month has me begging for fanatics to take over early

[@jordanbrinson5162]

Its unbelievable how bad panini screws people. That was $390 worth of cards?? Lol

[@AcmePacks]

it was not haha

[@TheChrome-Magnon]

Nice cards but I ain’t buying unless it’s around $150. So guess I won’t be getting any then. But that’s ok. Help stop 🛑 wallet rape.

[@RJN-kv6hx]

Underrated or not, people don’t want this s**t. People will buy it because it’s cheaper and available but the resell value is garbage.

[@AcmePacks]

haha i thought that i made that very clear in this video how even though i know these dont do well as resell its a really fun product to open and collect

[@bransonlavoie2173]

Do you suffer from depression 😂😊

[@AcmePacks]

that is extremely inappropriate and out of touch.

[@Heisenberg-ch8gj]

If John wick 5 comes out and people love the movie they don't raise the price of bullets and guns quick. How the fuck do these card companies get away with price hikes.....unreal and you people who break this shit on the Internet raise the price for everyone. Thanks people with KZbin channels For making card collecting expensive for everyone.

[@AcmePacks]

so just to be clear you are blaming people who work hard to make content for the raise in prices? not the companies who make the products and set the prices?

[@Heisenberg-ch8gj]

I clearly said that about the card companies first...read the message before you get butt hurt little friend. Sometimes the truth is reality

[@Heisenberg-ch8gj]

Hey why don't you make videos telling people to stop buying so It gets fair for the whole sport of collecting. be like kid rock and start a boycott!!!!

[@AcmePacks]

@@Heisenberg-ch8gj im just trying to enjoy the hobby for what it is. I complain about things i dont like and say my peace and move on. I tell you guys what i think is good and bad and thats it

[@Heisenberg-ch8gj]

I will never stop watching your content... don't get me twisted. You do make good stuff I will never deny that.