My First Time at a Kenneth Copeland Conference.

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Melissa Dougherty

Melissa Dougherty

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@sarahhostkoetter960
@sarahhostkoetter960 14 сағат бұрын
I am an ex-witch..23 years. All these teachings sound like witchcraft. Evil. That witch died in the river at my baptism. Thank you for sharing this.
@ChesterWortham
@ChesterWortham 13 сағат бұрын
Did you astral-travel when you were a witch I'm being attacked by some witches and sometimes I see the shadow people are they the witches when they astral travel?
@KJKP
@KJKP 12 сағат бұрын
Great testimony in two lines!
@brantgentry1463
@brantgentry1463 12 сағат бұрын
Are u a Christian chester
@Annakneedtunobasis
@Annakneedtunobasis 12 сағат бұрын
God bless you. Amen!
@suzannecarroll2388
@suzannecarroll2388 11 сағат бұрын
That’s awesome
@susanneb6176
@susanneb6176 16 сағат бұрын
This conference was the first big conference that I went to as a new believer. I thought it was the most amazing thing. Paula White came out and started singing in the spirit, the whole stadium joined in. 20 years later, my eyes were opened to the new age, heretical teachings. I lost so much time, money and grief to this movement - nothing came to pass, no prosperity, no healings, no supernatural weight loss. :)
@jeanahwendell750
@jeanahwendell750 15 сағат бұрын
Me too. God has always been faithful
@lloyannehurd
@lloyannehurd 15 сағат бұрын
But it did give you chance to see the truth, and it wasn’t their philosophy! Your prosperity is in your heart and in the true love of God therein.
@savannahjones299
@savannahjones299 15 сағат бұрын
We don't need a man of God or profit to tell us we'll be blessed. God already said he will.
@samulmagnus1
@samulmagnus1 15 сағат бұрын
Do you think God used it to purge you of sinful desires of prosperity and fascination with the supernatural?..or was it that this was just the seemingly Christian route for teaching and growth?
@onedaya_martian1238
@onedaya_martian1238 15 сағат бұрын
Religion is a grift, cashing in on the hard of thinking.
@edwardramirez8550
@edwardramirez8550 15 сағат бұрын
When asked " "Teacher ( Christ Jesus ) where do you stay", Jesus replied " The Son of Man has No place to lay His head"! Let that sink in.
@sallybyrd3712
@sallybyrd3712 14 сағат бұрын
Jesus was not poor if you really do research on his family. Do some research on Jesus by Rick Renner.
@janetspiritofthelivinggod6328
@janetspiritofthelivinggod6328 14 сағат бұрын
@@sallybyrd3712 His parents could only afford the doves to sacrifice. They certainly were not rich, if that is what you're implying.
@iblameabel
@iblameabel 13 сағат бұрын
@@sallybyrd3712neither was He rich. Carpentry wasn’t as good of a job as today, He did not work during His ministry either. Apostle Paul only had a job so he could survive.
@Shoutout-c2j
@Shoutout-c2j 12 сағат бұрын
Because it was one of the feasts and they all came to Jerusalem for the feast…it was full. Not because he was poor.
@jenniferoutlaw1975
@jenniferoutlaw1975 12 сағат бұрын
As a believer, we are "not of this world". God has different gifts and jobs for all of His children, some to be wealthy, some to be poor, or somewhere in the middle to support and do His work. We are not to trust in the things of this life, but to trust in the One who is the Way, Truth, and Life for all our needs and direction for us.
@francarner2515
@francarner2515 11 сағат бұрын
I was the defender of Word of Faith years ago, but I am now free from that deception. Keep speaking truth, Melissa.
@BrettL250
@BrettL250 10 сағат бұрын
Do you tithe?
@Snudgwick
@Snudgwick 9 сағат бұрын
Do not encourage behaviour which promotes gossip.
@TheRopenNetwork
@TheRopenNetwork 9 сағат бұрын
Amen to you
@TheRopenNetwork
@TheRopenNetwork 9 сағат бұрын
Yes every paycheck, it's called a TAX. Tithe according to The Prosperity Teachers NO! Does not apply to us today.
@tonyahewett5923
@tonyahewett5923 9 сағат бұрын
Amen!
@libbylandvatter5322
@libbylandvatter5322 10 сағат бұрын
I jumped into the word of faith movement a few years after I left the Mormon church (born and raised). When I realized all the word of faith folks were charlatans, I was CRUSHED. It was like I had been deceived ALL OVER AGAIN. I felt very similar to how I felt when I left the Mormon church. But I am so incredibly grateful to God for turning me onto the deception of these people.
@NoName-dr8wt
@NoName-dr8wt 8 сағат бұрын
Bless your heart ❤
@orange42
@orange42 4 сағат бұрын
@libbylandvatter5322 how did you stay out despite all friends and family in LDS? That sounds an incredible testimony!
@libbylandvatter5322
@libbylandvatter5322 3 сағат бұрын
@@orange42 by the grace of God. I have lost my family and have a strained relationship with much of my family because of I left the LDS church. People don’t realize how much you lose when you leave a church like the Mormon church
@Charity-vm4bt
@Charity-vm4bt Сағат бұрын
​@@libbylandvatter5322 have you found a better church?
@jesusisking2028
@jesusisking2028 Сағат бұрын
You will gain much more then you lost God The Father has Great plans for you❤
@howgoesit7
@howgoesit7 12 сағат бұрын
My brother was a simple-minded person early in his Christian walk.. very honest, and naive unfortunately. He used to go to a small congregation that associated itself with Kenneth Copeland. At one Sunday service, he went and they were talking about tithing. The “pastor” stated to the attendees, “Those who have not been tithing faithfully, stand up.” He had been going through job issues and so finances were tight. He had not been tithing “fully,” so.. he was one of the people who stood up. The speaker read the famously-quoted Malachi passage about giving to the Lord. The speaker proceeded to tell those standing (paraphrased), ‘If you have not been tithing faithfully, you are a god robber and have lost your salvation.’ 😡 Of course, my brother, feeling condemned and unwanted, totally believed the guy. That “church” no longer exists thankfully, but my brother was and has never been the same since then. That was over 15 years ago. It’s like his mind has been robbed of joy and innocence as he believes God still wants him to prosper, but he’s never able to attain it. It was so destructive, and nothing I do or say, or read to him out of the Bible convinces him otherwise. My heart hurts over my brother. I pray the Lord’s mercy finds him and changes his mind.😔🙏🙏
@squirrel9424
@squirrel9424 11 сағат бұрын
Dear heavenly father, I pray Lord that you will touch this brother and show him your real love and that it’s not about how much we give that makes us Christian, but it’s just our surrender to you and doing your will! I pray that those evil thoughts that were planted in his heart will be washed away and replace it with the truth heavenly father in Jesus name amen!
@valeriecallaghan
@valeriecallaghan 9 сағат бұрын
@@squirrel9424 Praying in agreement with you for this brother !! In Jesus might name !!
@karenhamrick5426
@karenhamrick5426 6 сағат бұрын
@@squirrel9424 Amen.
@SRockwell
@SRockwell 5 сағат бұрын
As a survivor of ICOC...I get it.
@KellieGray-k4t
@KellieGray-k4t 5 сағат бұрын
Spiritual abuse
@merrygrammarian1591
@merrygrammarian1591 8 сағат бұрын
As someone from Texas, I apologize on behalf of the DFW highway system. I tried to get to my aunt's house once and after thirty minutes, I turned around and went home and cried on the floor. You're not alone.
@colt.4598
@colt.4598 5 сағат бұрын
I had to drive through DFW highway system during rush hour!!!! Thought I was gonna die!!! When I lived in DFW I stayed away from that abomination as much as I possibly could.
@Scotty-Z70
@Scotty-Z70 15 сағат бұрын
i used to be a Copeland follower. i'm free, now.
@zoetaylor9191
@zoetaylor9191 14 сағат бұрын
Praise God!!
@janice1493
@janice1493 14 сағат бұрын
Me too. I will never forget the day that the Holy Spirit freed me from that. A very heavy burden lifted from me. I never looked back.
@Scotty-Z70
@Scotty-Z70 14 сағат бұрын
@@janice1493 I can’t believe all the money I sent them that could have been used for local ministries.
@aurelian771
@aurelian771 13 сағат бұрын
it amazes me how naive people are to follow someone as crazy as copeland
@Scotty-Z70
@Scotty-Z70 13 сағат бұрын
@ well I was in High School and only just got saved at age 15; but tell me how you were able to never be mislead
@Baba_Wawa
@Baba_Wawa 10 сағат бұрын
As a child Kenneth Copeland gave me nightmares. I would hide every morning when my parents would watch Believer’s Voice of Victory. As an adult I’m even more convinced he has more in common with the boogie man than the Bible.
@nomadicfenceman509
@nomadicfenceman509 8 сағат бұрын
Children have keen sense discerning darkness
@NoName-dr8wt
@NoName-dr8wt 8 сағат бұрын
Children sometimes have a clear view of reality, and know when someone is evil. So maybe this applied to you. 😊 Also, children flocked to Jesus because somehow, they knew He was good! 😊
@TheJrcherron
@TheJrcherron 7 сағат бұрын
As an adult Kenneth Copeland gives me nightmares. I’m pretty sure he is demon possessed.
@firstknight117
@firstknight117 6 сағат бұрын
As I commented elsewhere, he seems like a serpent to me. Both my wife and I are instantly repulsed by him and she doesn't know anything about him other than he makes her uneasy.
@stephenb7704
@stephenb7704 5 сағат бұрын
Oh he’s got the creepiest eyes for sure
@danibelle3764
@danibelle3764 13 сағат бұрын
Imagine, you’re sitting there watching Copeland ramble on and on, you can’t afford rent or groceries, or your child needs an expensive surgery. How comforting it is to know Copeland has a closet-full of exorbitantly expensive watches. 🤨
@robertcampbell6349
@robertcampbell6349 8 сағат бұрын
And he owns multiple airplanes. Eat Alpo so Copeland can afford jet fuel.
@user-fe6km7gw8m
@user-fe6km7gw8m 7 сағат бұрын
Don't forget, he purchased Prince's jet plane so he could be "taken by the Spirit wherever it led him." You should see the video proof of Benny Hin and his entourage partying and taking crystal meth. One of his workers died that day of an overdose. And he's still preaching and stealing from delusional victims. Very soo, their day is coming. The daughters (Harlots)have lready gone back to the Mother of harlots (Rome) a few years back. See Revelation 17
@alecferguson1004
@alecferguson1004 7 сағат бұрын
Worse yet, he’d tell you to donate $10 and God will heal your child miraculously and then steal your money
@alecferguson1004
@alecferguson1004 7 сағат бұрын
Worse yet, he’d tell you to donate $10 and God will heal your child miraculously and then steal your money
@Not2daysatan
@Not2daysatan 5 сағат бұрын
And the reason you don't have what he has is because you don't have enough faith and don't donate in trust enough
@robertpvalentin
@robertpvalentin 14 сағат бұрын
From the first time, I saw Ken Copeland as a child, I knew immediately in my spirit he was not of God
@jamiescott5016
@jamiescott5016 14 сағат бұрын
Me too
@lucindareppert9503
@lucindareppert9503 14 сағат бұрын
Same here.
@Theevangelist7
@Theevangelist7 13 сағат бұрын
He looks evil in his eyes
@cherirathburn466
@cherirathburn466 13 сағат бұрын
We all have a journey and thank you, Jesus, when we absolutely know the Truth of salvation. It doesn't come from head knowledge only. We need to have heart knowledge of Him. A personal relationship. Born Again. John 3:3. John 1:13 ... not born of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God!!
@HollyHall-h9n
@HollyHall-h9n 13 сағат бұрын
He is not a child. He is a full-grown man that knows exactly what he is doing.
@janataylor2721
@janataylor2721 16 сағат бұрын
God bless you for going into the viper's den for the rest of us! You are a treasure. I'm one that got duped early on as a believer and fell for "people" like him. But God, rich in mercy, love and forgiveness rescued me from the clutches of these ruthless and heartless purveyors of the prosperity gospel. Keep up the good work!!!
@tammyyoungquist3441
@tammyyoungquist3441 14 сағат бұрын
Joyce Meyer is also one rhat says the more you give the more you get from God. God gave us Jesus! Jesus should be our focus!
@kellylundblad2616
@kellylundblad2616 13 сағат бұрын
God could not possibly give us more than He did,what else is there, He gave us Himself, His very life!!!
@tammyyoungquist3441
@tammyyoungquist3441 13 сағат бұрын
@kellylundblad2616 Amen!!! Why are people so concerned about what else they can get from God. God gave me a heart to want Him. That's enough for me. My Salvation! The only gift I find worthy!
@zoebrugg7594
@zoebrugg7594 13 сағат бұрын
Amen!
@jaredberryman-hivelead
@jaredberryman-hivelead 11 сағат бұрын
I am not a Joyce Meyer fan, but she has publicly acknowledged that she no longer is a part of the word of faith movement and rejects the health and wealth teachings. She has stated this multiple times, and has spoken and taught publicly that she believed silly things. It’s easy to criticize the word of faith movement but some people have come to faith through it and through experience and study of scripture have abandoned false teachings. I did not come to faith through the word of faith movement but have even believed some things that could be classified as heresy in my lifetime. I’m careful about criticizing people who call themselves Christians, albeit we must certainly criticize the public teachers at this conference. I don’t know where Joyce Meyer’s heart is and I don’t follow her ministry or teaching but I don’t think we can currently claim she is a prosperity preacher. Some of the people in the word of faith movement are true lovers of Jesus and I don’t think we can just write all of them off. I do think most of them are extremely naive though.
@jobrown8146
@jobrown8146 11 сағат бұрын
I used to follow Joyce Meyer in the 1990s. Two things that contributed to me stopping listening to her was when they wanted to get a plane and she looked different after a face lift. There were other things going on in the church I attended as well as the Toronto "blessing" arriving here in Australia.
@michaeldavis6607
@michaeldavis6607 13 сағат бұрын
One side of my extended family all are steeped in this movement. Everything is signs, wonders, miracles, seeing angels, gift if healing,....they seem easily tempted by the promise of wealth yet none if them have it yet
@InsignificantChump
@InsignificantChump 12 сағат бұрын
Share with those family members the ENTIRE context of the Bible verses they abuse in defense of these heretical teachings!
@patriciaerlandsen4037
@patriciaerlandsen4037 Сағат бұрын
They love the things of this world and the love of the father is not in them From such turn away
@Mike-s1l3s
@Mike-s1l3s 12 сағат бұрын
I bought into the Word of Faith hook line and sinker. Thank you for this message! people should be aware. I was a product of child abuse. Later in life, both my parents drained me of money in my adult life. So, needless to say, I was primmed for this scam. I heard kC preach and was unfortunately drawn in with the promises of seeing God work. I would have and did give everything I had to see God work. My house would have been paid off by now with the amount of money I've given all the guys you mentioned. Hard lesson to learn. I woke up the day KC told the story about the 1.5 million they paid for the gold plate on their plane and how God orchestrated the good deal. At that point, I woke up. I take the blame for falling for it. I learned my lesson. Tyty for this message.
@tammyyoungquist3441
@tammyyoungquist3441 12 сағат бұрын
@@Mike-s1l3s The Lord opened your eyes. The Holy Spirit at work! Praise Jesus for this! That is a blessing!
@martinbraun2533
@martinbraun2533 16 сағат бұрын
With so many fallen churches, it is so important to not only love God with all our heart, soul, and strength, to love God also with all our mind. Thank you, for your considerate perspective.
@Rob069
@Rob069 16 сағат бұрын
Thank you for covering this. I was in this movement for most of my life and finally broke free. Debbie reminds me of my mother who was knee deep in the Kenneth Copeland church. She would defend KC no matter what and he could do no wrong in her eyes. Her and my dad gave thousands of dollars and volunteered at their church campus. The staff was so rude to her and but still she believed. When she passed, the "pastor" that ran their outreach wanted to charge $300 to give a eulogy AND it had to be on a day when he was free! My dad and I are free of that money pit and couldn't be happier. I never want to set foot back into the KC church and hear the preacher there again...a former graphic artist who told more stories about his rich home than give a sermon.
@Tenonizer
@Tenonizer 15 сағат бұрын
My husband and I went to many conferences and visited the church in Texas in the early years in our marriage. We attended a number of churches that believed in line with all Melissa mentions. Whenever we brought scriptures up to our leaders that were against what was being taught, they would not listen and only threaten us with you can't be an usher or teach Sunday school, or whatever unless we renounce this thinking. They would exclude my wife and I and said if we want to pray for others we had to get permission from them before going over to their home to pray or talk to the lost. Faith was taught that you said it once and then did something you couldn't do before. Many times we ended up hurting ourselves further and so we researched faith...and found it more of a gardening term and the word of God was seed. But gardening takes effort and that's what we got in so much trouble believing.
@prissylovejoy702
@prissylovejoy702 13 сағат бұрын
@@Tenonizer. How do people defend Copeland being the only one getting rich and no one else? Also how do they defend the claim everyone will be healed but he wears glasses and has a pacemaker plus he claims he will live to be 120 years old.
@tammyyoungquist3441
@tammyyoungquist3441 12 сағат бұрын
@@Rob069 This is the very reason I left the Pentacostal Church, Assemblies of God. They loved Copeland and all the prosperity preaching. Some of our pastors were good, but as a whole, I can't get behind their beliefs in certain things...
@retireorbust
@retireorbust 11 сағат бұрын
Oh he's still an artist...a con artist.
@bethprather9241
@bethprather9241 2 сағат бұрын
Im so sad that your mom passed and they wanted $300 and their time. Her salvation is true Im sure.. But none of this seemed like anything Jesus wanted us to her.. Idk
@Yesica1993
@Yesica1993 17 сағат бұрын
The problem isn't so much these "preachers." The problem is that they can somehow fill not just an auditorium for "church" services, but an entire conference where people even pay to attend. That's what gets me. *EDIT: This went on for an entire week?!
@falloneaidoo
@falloneaidoo 16 сағат бұрын
„For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables.“ ‭‭II Timothy‬ ‭4‬:‭3‬-‭4‬ ‭NKJV‬‬
@Justexposingevil
@Justexposingevil 15 сағат бұрын
Wrong, they are leading people away from Jesus. They are absolutely a huge problem.
@martinfroelich7193
@martinfroelich7193 15 сағат бұрын
My hunch as to why they get high attendance, and are not particularly concerned about staying awake to take in the message,... is the doctrine of transference or impartation. Just being there in proximity to "God's anointed" and favored... is bound to rub off on you. Just like grave soaking. ... Lots of weird superstitions and new agey type ooga booga. Let's face it it's the same old hyped prosperity Gospel, with its tropes and catch phrases and behaviors, ... so no one actually anticipates learning anything new.
@bilandshark
@bilandshark 14 сағат бұрын
@@Yesica1993 this is OLD news. A church I attended (and worked at, in the counting room$$$) 20 years ago we did a conference called “Faith Week”. The stories I could tell. The way they guilt snd pump up and manipulate ppl into giving . MULTIPLE times per session Per Preacher is astounding. The money and items that I counted and seen “sown” were crazy. And they then return the favor to each other by just passing money along to the next Preacher in line. As well as taking an offering for them. And they get filthy rich doing this. Time after time. My first hand was I attended and worked there. My husband still does. 27 yrs later. Yet another story of how they place fear and manipulate into ppl.
@Yesica1993
@Yesica1993 14 сағат бұрын
@@bilandshark I can understand this type of thing in the years before the internet. Or in places where there still may be limited access to it. But, I'm sorry, not in 21st century America, where many homes have more Bibles gathering dust on shelves than exist in some entire countries. And not where most people have some access to the internet. I also make a separate category for the poor desperate souls who just want healing for themselves or for a loved one. Those people shred my heart. I cannot even watch such events because of the anger I feel towards the wicked leaders taking advantage of such vulnerable people.
@CorneEngelbrecht78
@CorneEngelbrecht78 13 сағат бұрын
Thank you Melissa for taking the time to make this video. Keep it up.
@TytusJones
@TytusJones 12 сағат бұрын
As someone who grew up in this movement, this was spot on. Prayers for Debbie! 😭🙏🏾
@Blazingw0lf
@Blazingw0lf 17 сағат бұрын
Copeland straight up looks and sounds like a Star Wars villain
@makavelli480
@makavelli480 16 сағат бұрын
Lol, word! He reminds me of The Emperor, face and all.
@FallingMoonXofficial
@FallingMoonXofficial 16 сағат бұрын
“Unlimited powerrrrrr”
@feltonite
@feltonite 16 сағат бұрын
Come to the dark side!
@SpFlash1523
@SpFlash1523 16 сағат бұрын
PALPATINE.
@FallingMoonXofficial
@FallingMoonXofficial 16 сағат бұрын
@@SpFlash1523 YES
@drachenfeuer5042
@drachenfeuer5042 17 сағат бұрын
Thanks for going so I didn’t have to
@cherylkunzelman3102
@cherylkunzelman3102 15 сағат бұрын
Not sure if you were trying to be funny but it was a good one! 😂
@Theevangelist7
@Theevangelist7 13 сағат бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Suzi64grad
@Suzi64grad 14 сағат бұрын
Copeland gives me the creeps when he smiles….just seems evil. I didn’t know much about him but watching a news reporter talking to him grabbed my attention. I felt almost chills as he grinned into the camera! Scary….
@iwasntlooking87
@iwasntlooking87 12 сағат бұрын
His eyes are super creepy. Especially when he smiles.
@Suzi64grad
@Suzi64grad 12 сағат бұрын
@ Yes! They appear evil!
@Ms.noelp453
@Ms.noelp453 11 сағат бұрын
He is evil 😈
@PraiseYahforHeisHoly
@PraiseYahforHeisHoly 11 сағат бұрын
He has hardened his heart for so long that there's nothing left of a conscience. Very scary that people can go so long without repentance.
@mrs.tucson2103
@mrs.tucson2103 9 сағат бұрын
That's the video that really opened my eyes. I never liked him but didn't realize how demonic he is until I saw that video in 2020. I think it was filmed a couple years earlier. Inside Addition.
@Cross-Examine
@Cross-Examine 8 сағат бұрын
You going there, observing, and taking notes was brilliant! 👏🏻 This is how we should be handling this kind of thing so that we are informed first-hand.
@RichardTavilla
@RichardTavilla 13 сағат бұрын
As a Christian, they very much embarrass me. True Christians store up their treasure in heaven.
@Inkironnrum
@Inkironnrum 8 сағат бұрын
Amen Amen Amen 🙏
@davidbermudez7704
@davidbermudez7704 6 сағат бұрын
We sure do 😊😊😊😊
@Belovelyava
@Belovelyava 4 сағат бұрын
Same, how are they not embarrassed!? lol, w guess that’s how they stay rich, not spiritually.
@RichardTavilla
@RichardTavilla 4 сағат бұрын
Right Belove that are a stain on us
@alicejump2290
@alicejump2290 16 сағат бұрын
Years ago, I was going through very difficult times, unable to work after a car accident and medical intervention wasn’t helping! Copeland was on Television and I just wanted to believe what he preached and his stories! Thank God I remembered verses that said test the spirits, Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. l John 4:1 by prayer and asking for a sound mind, and wisdom!
@marymorris6897
@marymorris6897 15 сағат бұрын
Good for you! God blesses those who seek His wisdom.
@arlissyoung8899
@arlissyoung8899 13 сағат бұрын
alicejump That alone is very wise to test the spirits. I would love to ask some of these people that come on YT with these stories. "Jesus came to me" "Jesus told me in a dream / vison" All accounts in the Word of God people fell as they where dead. Fainted / passed out from the Great Glory of Christ Jesus being so great. These other people are like, Yoo Jesus how's going Bro good to see you again. Then they make statements that never come to pass or are so far gone it's a waist of time. I can assure anyone if Christ Jesus comes to you in a vision / dream it will be like NOTHING in and of this world.
@texasthrives8271
@texasthrives8271 15 сағат бұрын
Thank you for taking a stand and systematically walking us through the thought process. I had no idea that I am in the “New Thought” movement until I stumbled upon your videos. The part where you mentioned the difficulties of unlearning the way scripture was used really hit home for me. I would appreciate prayers that the scales fall off my eyes, my ears to be unplugged, and the fog be lifted from my mind. ❤
@Jantsenpr777
@Jantsenpr777 13 сағат бұрын
By the way you expressed yourself here, I would say that process of "descalination" (not a word) is already well underway. If I could give a little advice here, I would say just start reading the Word again. Also, find a good systematic theology commentary. That'll be a good way to start.
@zoedaisyhill1426
@zoedaisyhill1426 12 сағат бұрын
God bless you, and I will pray for you. I’ve been there, and it’s incredibly humbling when you feel you were raised in church and on the word of God, all your life, only to find out that the church you had attended for several years later in life was a WOF cult. But I want to reassure you, that the Lord used scripture in my life and my husband‘s life to reveal the falsehoods. There were times when I felt like I was being stripped of everything I ever knew, like many of the things I learned I had to unlearn. It’s wild. My hubby jokes, and says that I was saved from the womb, and trust me even being raised in church at a young age I needed a savior… Jesus! I just can’t believe sometimes that was my reality. The guilt and condemnation.… When not giving or if you didn’t have it to give. I always managed to give even if it broke me. Even if I had no food. God did take care of me and provided for me, but I do remember even putting my wedding ring as an offering to the Lord. I’m sure God saw that our intentions and motives were pure. But we were definitely deceived in different areas. We started asking questions, reading the Word more and listening to preachers less during that time in our lives. Dad used channels like this one, messed up Church and long for truth to show us how scripture had been twisted in many different examples of some of these heretical preachers. It’s amazing how His word brought clarity! And I am praying that for you, that your eyes would be opened to the truth of his word, and that every falsehood and deceptive word you have heard, received in your heart or opened your mind to would be revealed, so that he can begin the healing in your heart. I pray that your relationship with the Lord will grow and your love for His word. I pray that you find a good Bible believing/teaching church, even if it’s a denomination you would’ve never considered before. I was never Baptist girl lol. In fact, a lot of the non-denominational/Pentecostal churches I grew up in made fun of Baptists. But here I am! Lol and not just a Baptist Church, but I’m in a church that is preaching the Bible in context. We were very much tired of the mic drop moments in every church we used to visit or be part of in ministry. We were tired of life advice versus guidance through scripture. Thankful to God that he’s opening your eyes. He is faithful to forgive us when we have fallen prey to these things. I’m thankful you’re repentant and desiring more time in scripture. May God bless you! Don’t give up! Even when it’s hard; even when you feel like you’re on an island by yourself when you have to give up everything you once believed in and the people you did ministry with for so long. The Lord will bring the right people into your life to help guide you in all truth. But do Read Your Bible; it’s the best and really only true way to learn His truths and defy the false doctrines circulating around us.
@texasthrives8271
@texasthrives8271 12 сағат бұрын
⁠@@Jantsenpr777thanks so much. I’ve definitely been reading the Word….my teen and I are on a daily regiment, reading together. Where I’m finding myself struggling is when it comes to reading the Word through the dense lens/filter that has been in place for so long. Honestly, I’m beginning to see it more as brainwashing because it is so difficult to think outside of that filter. Hearing these clips from a different point of view presents me the feeling of being someone who has been under anesthesia and is just now waking. The typical foggy 😶‍🌫️ mind and difficulty processing information are definitely present. I’m thankful for Melissa’s basic, gentle, logical, and biblical approach. It is the reason I have been able to let down my guard and allow the questions to once again flow. The anxiety I’m experiencing arises more from the doubt of whether or not I’ll ask the “RIGHT” questions or be able to think clearly enough to see/understand the biblical point of view. Thank you for your prayers and encouragement. ❤
@jenniferstarke8369
@jenniferstarke8369 16 сағат бұрын
Justin Peters is a legend for exposing these false teachers!
@AbelQuintana-n4b
@AbelQuintana-n4b 14 сағат бұрын
Yes. His "Clouds Without Water" is what got me out of this mess. I used to watch all these false teachers on daystar. Thank GOD I don't watch these charlatans or daystar anymore.
@Learningthetruth7
@Learningthetruth7 13 сағат бұрын
NOT a fan of word of faith at all and have been repulsed by if since inception. However, the only sad part is that Peters teaches a powerless Christ. He denies God being supernatural in the lives of believers. Matthew 10 vs 8.
@mikehelak8874
@mikehelak8874 13 сағат бұрын
​@@Learningthetruth7Amen!! The cessation message is about as bad as it gets.
@micaiah0109
@micaiah0109 12 сағат бұрын
@@Learningthetruth7Justin Peters denies the power of God 💯
@InsignificantChump
@InsignificantChump 12 сағат бұрын
@@micaiah0109 He doesn't deny the Power of God, He believes people like John MacArthur are not subject to correction after careful examination. Peters believes MacArthur is God's gift to the church in the las 1,500 years!
@HollyHall-h9n
@HollyHall-h9n 13 сағат бұрын
I saw Jesse Duplantis at a convention center in the northeast about 20 years ago. Same exact message about how much his god has blessed him. He said don't be jealous because the Lord loves him so much and you can catch up too (by giving, of course).
@TerriKosh
@TerriKosh 10 сағат бұрын
When my Word of Faith friend told me that my other Christian friend had cancer because “she just didn’t have enough faith”. The epitome of false teaching.
@sandyhardy3419
@sandyhardy3419 17 сағат бұрын
30 years ago I trusted these guys 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ they are sadly deceiving so many 😭 Thank you for this …
@Lrasm13
@Lrasm13 16 сағат бұрын
I got fooled by JW. From 97 until 2017.. Thank God for His mercy and patience
@skilz8098
@skilz8098 16 сағат бұрын
Don't worry, our Father in Heaven already gave warning towards them. We can find that in Ezekiel 13. It will not bode well for them.
@ifcatshadthumbs...664
@ifcatshadthumbs...664 16 сағат бұрын
Same here hon. But discernment opened my eyes to them and who they really serve...and it's not Jesus. They preach mammon and are leading the sheep to slaughter. These are the false shepherds and false prophets spoken of in the Gospels. Want no part in the judgement they will receive. Open your eyes Christians and pray for the Holy Sprits discernment!
@TimesUp777-x2g
@TimesUp777-x2g 15 сағат бұрын
The crickets are for their demons to eat. Kenneths demons are probably many that's why their so loud
@louisecordier9428
@louisecordier9428 14 сағат бұрын
In the beginning many years ago he could have been used by the Lord to break the poverty mentality of the American Church. However, he stayed with it too long and began twisting it for his own benefit and today it’s become a travesty.
@123verona1
@123verona1 14 сағат бұрын
😂😂😂 The crickets oh my gosh fantastic I love your personality and humor!!! It's my first time watching your show I'm definitely subscribing😂😂😂❤❤❤❤
@susanfox6666
@susanfox6666 14 сағат бұрын
Thanks, Melissa, for doing this video. It's much needed, and I like the way you take notes, ask questions, and really bring good insight backed by the Word.
@josephbachota
@josephbachota 8 сағат бұрын
I was under the Kenneth Copeland umbrella for 8 years from 2003-2011. The things you say about the hyping up of people and stories is what they do all the time, so true. And they always defend themselves who go against them, absolutely 💯
@samburton2978
@samburton2978 9 сағат бұрын
I loved this video Melissa! Years ago, correction decades ago, some people coming to the Church in Scotland where I was preaching were trying to get me to become Charismatic. So for my birthday, they bought me a ticket to a prosperity/prophetic conference in Edinburgh. I went. It was 3 days. There were speakers galore. Several of them are now dead. A handful are in prison, and one of them was recently in the media for infidelity. There was also a Theologian. I spent time talking with them all. I watched their patterns. It fascinated me. I would go early to the session and watched people rehearse being slain in the spirit. So your experience really brought mine up from the dust of antiquity. I really liked the way you presented this. Thank you.
@DJELPSS
@DJELPSS 16 сағат бұрын
I grew up in a family where my parents believed this and only this. Andrew Wommack was another one that was big in there. Your whole experience with the "steamroller" was my whole experience with my parents growing up. Critical thinking chocked up to negative or satanic/demonic thinking and pushed out. And until I basically moved away but even still then for a while, I fell for it. Thankfully God saved me from it, but my parents are still SO deep into this movement, its ripped our family apart because they refuse any negative/critical thoughts to enter in, therefore no conversations, therefore no contradiction or questioning, therefore no change, and any sense of questioning is seen as a personal or spiritual attack. The destruction ushered into my family via these preachers and them laughing while my parents send them so much of our money is incredibly gross. Praying God does something to sew us back together.
@onedaya_martian1238
@onedaya_martian1238 15 сағат бұрын
Being skeptical, curious and empathetic will stop the strong from the grift called religion.
@skilz8098
@skilz8098 14 сағат бұрын
Don't worry God has a plan and he already stressed his sentiments towards false teachers, false prophets, etc. and those who would lead his flocks astray. You can find comfort that they'll be dealt with likewise at least from the warnings such as those found within Ezekiel 13. God has a special place for them, and it won't be pretty. When you hear them referencing scripture or Jesus, but rarely ever teaching the actual word, rarely ever diving into the ministries of Christ, his teachings, the importance of salvation and our roles to go out into the world spreading the good news. I would always head caution against it. It's a dark world, yet we can find comfort in passages such as from Psalms 23, Ephesians 6:12, and many others. Godspeed and remain blessed in his Mecry and Grace! All we can do is pray and keep our trust in the Lord.
@hackbritton3233
@hackbritton3233 9 сағат бұрын
🙏
@humblejoy3564
@humblejoy3564 13 сағат бұрын
so beautifully articulate, Melissa! this is what drew me into listening to your videos when I was coming out of a cultist group. don't stop! keep up the good work sis 🙂
@the-giving-garden
@the-giving-garden 13 сағат бұрын
I live in Dallas -- we had a huge cricket plague this summer. Sorry you had to experience it! They do eventually go away... But how hilarious that they contributed appropriate sound effects!
@thepitpatrol
@thepitpatrol 2 сағат бұрын
My grandmother lived in Hillsboro, years ago we stopped by to visit and walked through the town around the courthouse. There were millions of crickets everywhere. Still a beautiful town.
@AlexanderosD
@AlexanderosD 10 сағат бұрын
Thanks for sharing Melissa! You had to have been filled with immense patience and grace to get through that! What really upsets me about this whole movement is, the absolute insult and neglect of those in Christ who are persecuted and imprisoned.
@1965gracebug
@1965gracebug 10 сағат бұрын
Thank you! We drove to the southwest convention years ago, followed Kenneth, Jerry and Jesse. Gave by compulsion. Went to Keith Moore's church in Florida and bought so many cd sets(we still have them I think). We lived with all the power verses and affirmations but underneath was fear, insecurity and condemnation. But we could never speak negatively or admit something was wrong. It was like being gaslit 24/7. Finally Yahuah allowed us to have a breakdown. We have been growing into Yahuah and His Son Yeshua. Reading all the scriptures in context and I am more in love with Yah than ever before. I am sensitive to the needs of others and at peace!
@rickyrocketreed
@rickyrocketreed 8 сағат бұрын
Get rid of the CD sets, and you'll really be free!
@kimdiez2681
@kimdiez2681 7 сағат бұрын
JESUS 😊
@MrsClippit
@MrsClippit Сағат бұрын
Who is Yah.
@Yesica1993
@Yesica1993 17 сағат бұрын
I cannot abide that wicked man! How did you manage to not lose your mind attending such an event? I'm not sure if I can even get through this video. You deserve a medal!
@skilz8098
@skilz8098 15 сағат бұрын
When in doubt always remember Psalms 23.
@marymorris6897
@marymorris6897 15 сағат бұрын
Yes. I'm thinking why go to the devil's church service?
@mrupholsteryman
@mrupholsteryman 13 сағат бұрын
We are told to test the spirits and see if they are of God...
@skilz8098
@skilz8098 6 сағат бұрын
@@marymorris6897 Well, when "good men" do nothing. Evil spreads.
@chloeking4208
@chloeking4208 14 сағат бұрын
I’m so excited to clean my kitchen while I listen to this 😂 Thanks Melissa!
@momstruction
@momstruction 17 сағат бұрын
As a resident of DFW you are 100% correct about our road system.
@mikenixon2401
@mikenixon2401 16 сағат бұрын
Agreed. I spent a month on the LBJ Freeway one day.
@MelissaDougherty
@MelissaDougherty 15 сағат бұрын
They should fire the toddler who designed them.
@JaredRosselot
@JaredRosselot 15 сағат бұрын
​@@MelissaDougherty Kenneth copeland will not be saved unless if he repents for his false teachings.
@kurtsmith3653
@kurtsmith3653 15 сағат бұрын
@@MelissaDougherty I've driven in and out the DFW area over 3 decades and likely you got in and out of there faster than I can. Yep, it's a mess.😒
@kristintipps6735
@kristintipps6735 14 сағат бұрын
I laughed at that because I moved there for about a 18 months. I’m pretty sure some part of me is still lost in Ft Worth!!
@joantadisch9195
@joantadisch9195 12 сағат бұрын
So glad, Melissa, that you didn't have to pay to attend this conference, but none the less, I appreciate that you put yourself though this in order to inform us about these wolves in sheep clothing.
@teresarogers428
@teresarogers428 9 сағат бұрын
I grew up in this movement……recently my eyes were opened to it. I like you! You are solid with your information and the delivery of it. THANK YOU for doing these videos. I like that it’s not all negative, that when you had something good to say you did and you did it with kindness.
@Lrasm13
@Lrasm13 16 сағат бұрын
It's so easy to pick and choose scripture and twist them .. I fell for people like this , before The Holy Spirit came to me , He opened my eyes and changed my heart . Never going back into religious slavery - Jesus only from now on
@greatfulchristian4314
@greatfulchristian4314 2 сағат бұрын
Yes twisting Scriptures. Charles Spurgeon wrote discernment is knowing the difference between right and almost right. Hosea 4:6
@KeepMarchingOnTowardJesus
@KeepMarchingOnTowardJesus 15 сағат бұрын
Don't forget that Jet Fuel is very expensive. And Jessie needs a new Mercedes. 😅
@kimberlym-67
@kimberlym-67 16 сағат бұрын
Interesting about crickets because Leviticus 11 states that all other winged insects that walk on the ground are detestable and should not be eaten. Almost like a analogy of not eating of the words they're preaching.
@Mel-ky9zs
@Mel-ky9zs 14 сағат бұрын
Wow good catch i would have never caught that. That's deep.
@Theevangelist7
@Theevangelist7 13 сағат бұрын
Yes very well put
@JakeBabineau
@JakeBabineau 13 сағат бұрын
Well done on viewing and explaining the video and giving your testimony of the event, and loved the way you presented. Thanks for sharing
@mowguy1
@mowguy1 9 сағат бұрын
I used to be a prosperity gospel junkie watching all of these guys, I didn't have much money so I didn't send them any, and realized how shallow this stuff is several years ago. Thank you for this video
@78northwest80
@78northwest80 15 сағат бұрын
As a new Christian, I really appreciate your channel and all the topics and subjects you discuss. I pray for discernment and wisdom within finding a local church that I can connect with and how the gospel is taught and presented. Thank you Melissa 👍
@onedaya_martian1238
@onedaya_martian1238 15 сағат бұрын
A person with true discernment and wisdom will not fall for religion at all. The incurious, hard of thinking will allow these p-ass-tors to feed them so much "teaching" that is not reality based, that they will become as damaged as these folks.
@Kra-ri6fd
@Kra-ri6fd 9 сағат бұрын
The word of God is the truth that helps us see through the deceiption. As a new Christian in this horribly fallen world, it is imperative that you learn the word of God for yourself. Please read the Bible daily and find a pastor that teaches verse by verse chapter by chapter. I find Pastor Brett at Athey Creek (he has a website and KZbin channel) to be a good pastor thus far. Always be a Berean and verify what you hear with the word of God. Praying for discernment and wisdom is a great start in your walk too. May God bless you and keep you.
@78northwest80
@78northwest80 7 сағат бұрын
​Thank you for the supportive message and church recommendation...it is very appreciated...
@THXx1138
@THXx1138 16 сағат бұрын
"When did the church turn into Amway?"
@silvyamanquero393
@silvyamanquero393 5 сағат бұрын
...”same~same”..,,🥴
@MrsClippit
@MrsClippit Сағат бұрын
😂
@samulmagnus1
@samulmagnus1 14 сағат бұрын
The crickets😂🤣😂 I'm sorry but that's just halerious and perhaps the Lord's sense of humor😆
@BrendaRichardson-jp1yx
@BrendaRichardson-jp1yx 12 сағат бұрын
Forty years ago I started listening to the Copelands and all that bunch and I did send them money. I probably followed them for about 10 years, then God opened my eyes. Now it’s so plain to see how deceptive they are.
@lindajohnson.
@lindajohnson. 4 сағат бұрын
There is no accountability for the donations and no transparency to any of these Prosperity Ministries.😮😮😮…..
@beckiromero7444
@beckiromero7444 13 сағат бұрын
Thank you for sharing this info. May more people hear the truth about this type of message and be set free! May God bless you.
@kurtsmith3653
@kurtsmith3653 15 сағат бұрын
By far one of your best “investigative visits” videos yet, and thanks again for taking one for the team. Very insightful & eye-opening. Most impact on me was your encounter with 'Debby.' I saw there the eventual damage created by these prosperity preachers, just as I see it within other religions and cults. It makes me want to shout to these preachers “See! Look at what you have done to her.” I truly fear they miss out completely on the Gospel and the path to salvation. Thanks again - God bless you for the work you do and share. And I am praying for 'Debby.'
@denawhitney8143
@denawhitney8143 15 сағат бұрын
I AM….truly makes me need to immediately go face down bow to the floor imagining the great IAM-Jesus. He is the great IAM ❤ thank you for sharing
@BeckyBlake-sd1pg
@BeckyBlake-sd1pg 16 сағат бұрын
Melissa , you are right. I agree with you. These "faith , prosperity preachers" are NOT abiding in the Word. It's about wealth, not about serving Jesus. ( Also about popularity.) It's a tragedy that satan blinds their minds. There is a better way to grow in the Lord. God told me to get into the Word and every day spend time alone with God in the Bible. These preachers are actually leading people astray. The devil himself can become " an angel of light."
@prissylovejoy702
@prissylovejoy702 11 сағат бұрын
Personally I think they aren’t followers of Christ at all but scam artists using Christianity as their medium. Every scam artist has their shtick and their flock. I think they know exactly what they are doing. If they were Christians they wouldn’t be able to fleece people out of their money like they do. The HS would convict them too heavily.
@garyrodriguez8414
@garyrodriguez8414 Сағат бұрын
I grew up spiritualy in an AG church. We had an elderly pastor and a congregation of over a thousand that was packed Sundays, Wednesdays and Fridays, and he preached against the Word of Faith teaching
@Charity-vm4bt
@Charity-vm4bt Сағат бұрын
Good!
@davidfisher2329
@davidfisher2329 8 сағат бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing your experience, Melissa. God bless you for what you're doing. This information needs to be made public.
@bilandshark
@bilandshark 17 сағат бұрын
These guys do all the WOF church circuits. When I went to a WOF church. They and all their friends made the rounds. They laundered money by “sowing” into each other’s “ministries”.
@onedaya_martian1238
@onedaya_martian1238 14 сағат бұрын
Laundering money is the dirtiest thing these CON men do, but not as bad as taking the little money the hard of thinking have.
@michelleberntsson2314
@michelleberntsson2314 10 сағат бұрын
% 100 and giving eachother expensive gift like cars and watched
@barbs1298
@barbs1298 Сағат бұрын
Yep...saw it in a spiritually abusive church I attended.
@heathrutherford
@heathrutherford 16 сағат бұрын
My grandmother used to watch him in the mornings and as a kid, I remember there being “something” about him that scared me..the way he’d look at the camera. Still to this day, I can’t listen or watch him. Preach God’s Word…John 16:33-“I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world.” Everyone’s walk is different.
@StacemanFPV
@StacemanFPV 15 сағат бұрын
Crickets... God has such a great sense of humor
@petersimplife
@petersimplife 6 сағат бұрын
Thank you for not pushing out content for clicks. I think the way that you’re doing it is absolutely the best way to do it. I just think it’s cringe when Christian influencers act like the worldly influencers.
@nomadicfenceman509
@nomadicfenceman509 8 сағат бұрын
I attended a conference in Jacksonville Florida around circa 1980 Copeland, sevelle,Hagen… I remember everyone asking us “ so what was it like? How was it? What did they teach?… my answer was “ you just have to be there, just stuff! I think of it now 45 yrs later and know… and knew shortly after that conference, they didn’t say anything worth listening too even then… prosperity prosperity positive confession prosperity. I can assure you that the entire organization is as smoke in Gods nose…. A touch of the truth, and then a flood of lies is what they teach Really enjoyed your analysis of what you witnessed, you didn’t try to defame them ( they have black belts in defaming themselves!) you just spoke the truth. New sub! I’ll be looking for your next post., GOD bless!
@camm5245
@camm5245 17 сағат бұрын
Hope you had a wonderful Christmas, Melissa!
@kathyd456
@kathyd456 15 сағат бұрын
Well, I hope you did also. Merry Christmas from Alberta, Canada. 🙂🌟
@vdussaut9182
@vdussaut9182 16 сағат бұрын
I feel like I should be getting some popcorn ready before I watch this one lol
@toolegittoquit_001
@toolegittoquit_001 14 сағат бұрын
Perhaps some Pepto - Bismol as well
@thevirtualcockpit5001
@thevirtualcockpit5001 16 сағат бұрын
Prior to this video, I watched one of those "entitled shoplifter at the mall" arrest body cam videos. Lots of shouting and arm waving... Seriously...I can't fathom eight hours of Copeland. A week and I'd need therapy. The crickets thing though, that was hysterical. Good one Melissa. You deserve a medal.
@tonyaahn540
@tonyaahn540 12 сағат бұрын
Great explanation and breakdown. I have a relative who has wandered into this teaching and praying they can wander back out of it.
@mik-exe-
@mik-exe- 4 сағат бұрын
I've seen Copeland in person once when he came to my country and put on a 3-day conference. I went with my mum put of skepticism of him, but still being very WoF. It became clear the level of production used to encourage certain reactions from the crowd. It furthered me on confronting the doctrine I'd been raised on.
@Agg1E91
@Agg1E91 15 сағат бұрын
That interaction with the nice lady, discussing Copeland's station wagon, what it represented to her, and her belief that we can all (and apparently should) get there, immediately called to mind the hard-core MLM adherents. In this case, a lot of this stuff has become Multi-level religion.
@tammyyoungquist3441
@tammyyoungquist3441 12 сағат бұрын
@@Agg1E91 what a great comparison. That is exactly what it is...
@lauraofeno3941
@lauraofeno3941 6 сағат бұрын
You were in my town. (Fort Worth is not Dallas, although the roads are wonky in the entire area.) I’m definitely a back-way gal. Copeland is not well-loved around here. There will always be those who buy it.
@norman2746
@norman2746 15 сағат бұрын
Thank you for going to see Kenneth Copeland, so I don't have to !
@thehickcritic
@thehickcritic 17 сағат бұрын
As someone who lives in the DFW area... I can confirm that Dallas roads are the absolute worst. Me and my family actively avoid driving through Dallas unless we absolutely have to.
@stoshmuru3321
@stoshmuru3321 16 сағат бұрын
Yeah. I almost died there once those roads are scary
@wlknonsonshine
@wlknonsonshine 7 сағат бұрын
Agree...but Ft Worth is totally different from Dallas.
@SpaceCadet4Jesus
@SpaceCadet4Jesus 12 сағат бұрын
Kenneth and Gloria Copeland, now in their 80s, have faced significant health challenges in recent years, which is not uncommon for individuals their age. Gloria's health journey has been particularly notable, with breast cancer in 2015 and lung cancer in 2018, both of which were treated into remission[2]. Kenneth, at 88, uses a pacemaker due to an irregular heartbeat and has mentioned experiencing balance issues. While health concerns are expected at their age, the Copelands' situation raises questions due to their long-standing teachings on divine healing. Their ministry has consistently promoted the belief that it is God's will for all Christians to be healed and that complete healing is included in Christ's atonement. This theology suggests that believers should expect divine health and healing as a "Covenant right." The apparent contradiction between the Copelands' health issues and their teachings on divine healing remains largely unaddressed by the ministry. This discrepancy is particularly striking given their continued emphasis on faith healing and their assertion that lack of healing may be due to sin, unbelief, or insufficient faith. It's worth noting that the Copelands have access to high-quality medical care due to their financial resources. This stands in contrast to many of their followers who do not have the same level of access to healthcare. The disparity between the Copelands' ability to afford top-tier medical treatment and the financial realities of their average follower adds another layer of complexity to their teachings on divine healing. The Copelands have not provided a comprehensive explanation for how their personal health challenges align with their longstanding theological stance on divine healing. This lack of transparency has led to criticism and skepticism from observers.
@wlknonsonshine
@wlknonsonshine 7 сағат бұрын
Very interesting. I never heard of the 2 separate cancers and I was attending Eagle Mtn in 2018. However, I did hear that she has dementia.
@kimsteel366
@kimsteel366 6 сағат бұрын
​@@wlknonsonshineDementia?? Yikes, that's a new one for me! I had heard about 1 of cancer cases, and I didn't know that she went through treatment!
@wlknonsonshine
@wlknonsonshine 6 сағат бұрын
@kimsteel366 yes, imo it started in early 2019. They basically stopped having her on the show. I asked questions, but got no answers...til years later.
@dr.dreymisenheimer8499
@dr.dreymisenheimer8499 12 сағат бұрын
My family is apart of Keith Moores church in Branson Missouri. I’ve been with them several times through my life. I’ve attended the SWBC before as well. Back in 2020 the Lord opened my eyes to the deceptions of these churches. Praise the Lord. And thank you for your videos!
@EmGeeeeee
@EmGeeeeee 14 сағат бұрын
The crickets!! ☠🤣 I almost spit out my coffee.
@taylorvandermartin2946
@taylorvandermartin2946 16 сағат бұрын
Thank you Melissa
@AngelaVEdwards
@AngelaVEdwards 15 сағат бұрын
That all actually _is_ new thought teaching. I applaud you for recognizing that. 💖
@johnaschenbrenner3993
@johnaschenbrenner3993 3 сағат бұрын
I grew up a Baptist and then became Pentecostal because I was looking for more. I went to a Kenneth Copeland conference ages ago, barely remember it other than he seemed like a lot of other faith healers I had seen in the Pentecostal movement. After many scandals in different Spirit Filled Churches I felt lost and quit going to church at all. I for a time, more out of curiosity than anything else looked at different religious teachings, but also had a desire to find the right church. I began praying that I might find a church that my wife and I would both want to go to. She always seemed uninterested in going to the mega churches I had wanted to go to in the past. I went to a Roman Catholic church for a while but I had a hard time with a lot of their teachings. I left the Catholic church in despair but then decided to go to an Eastern Orthodox Church, I called the Priest Father there and discovered that we had some shared background as he had previously been an Assemblies of God member. I went to an enquirers class and got some questions answered (no they don't worship icons). I went to a Divine Liturgy the next day and was greatly affected by the Holy Spirit while there. The music was so beautiful and I was so convicted of sin in my life (even though there was no Hellfire and Brimstone preaching) that I truly believed that I had finally found the church that I had been searching for my whole life. At first my wife thought I was crazy for going to this church and seldom came with me. Over time though she began to understand that this is the one true church and now is seeking to become a member by going to classes (catechism). Christ is Born!! Glorify Him!!
@Steve-og4ii
@Steve-og4ii 8 сағат бұрын
Sleeping through a Jesse Duplantis presentation is the second best thing one could do,the first being to get up AND LEAVE!!
@nikkirene00
@nikkirene00 13 сағат бұрын
I’m so happy that I found your channel. Thank you for all you do. ❤
@HollyHall-h9n
@HollyHall-h9n 12 сағат бұрын
I would also like to remind folks that the Word of Faith movement put on 20 of their best prophetic voices for a program to ring in the new year of 2020. They all predicted very broad, generic messages. Basically, all good things to come that year. Not one mention about the pandemic.
@christinerhine8183
@christinerhine8183 14 сағат бұрын
Thank you for putting your time into this. This brought answers to many questions i have had over the years. And also gave me some encouragement to do some of my own research into other questions that i struggle with. ❤
@djwarrior3365
@djwarrior3365 4 сағат бұрын
It's never shameful to use the brain God gave to us. Keep thinking and seeking. God will gently guide you by His Holy Spirit.
@tecora7419
@tecora7419 13 сағат бұрын
sounds TOTALLY like an Amway convention
@rebekahgoddard-kp6hw
@rebekahgoddard-kp6hw 12 сағат бұрын
Wow,did not know to much on this. My grandma liked this guy, but she did not know this at all. She died not knowing this much of this , she did not idolize him though. Thank you. I love the way you go about all the things you say and how dissect everything. Keep it up
@PowerSweep
@PowerSweep 12 сағат бұрын
This is so good. And the "unlearn" part... yes, I also have had to go through that after an extreme Pentecostal background in my youth.
@kakdad111
@kakdad111 12 сағат бұрын
Thank you for your commentary . I appreciate your breakdown . I read my Bible go to church and pray . I listen to the news and others views. God has given me the discernment on these preachers . What is truly sad is I truly belive these type of people have gotten into ministry to truly do God's work amd has list their way. So I pray for them rather then go into their ministries and get a break down . Scripture tells us that people like them have a greater responsibility and will be judged greater as well. So thank you for your breakdown
@janice1493
@janice1493 11 сағат бұрын
I absolutely believe that too. I used to listen to KC and when he was younger he gave some really good Bible studies. He actually taught from the Word of God. As I began to study for myself I stopped listening to him.
@StevenMitchell-ml2tw
@StevenMitchell-ml2tw 15 сағат бұрын
Matthew 13:22 (KJV) He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful.
@Jesusexplains
@Jesusexplains 6 сағат бұрын
❤Thanks Mellisa … Well balanced and honest.
@petervancamp4453
@petervancamp4453 12 сағат бұрын
That was awesome, first time I've ever heard you, really enjoyed your evaluation of Keneth Copelands conference. I really do appreciate your patience and tolerance, because you couldn't pay me to go. I'd get arrested for disorderly conduct. I got saved march 15,1981 in SanDeigo CA. While stationed aboard the USS SanBernardino (lst-1189) greatest day of my life. A young Baptist fella named Rex talked me into going to church, and so my journey began. Rex transfered and a fella named Les came aboard and I got to know him. He was a pentecostal denomination and had a wonderful way of praying for people and seemed to have words of knowledge that made me just have this hunger to learn how.. One day while eating breakfast he told me about his home church in Texas and that Kenneth Copeland was the greatest preacher there is ..I was so impressionable,, I was raised catholic and a year earlier got babtized in the church Rex took me to..through the years I would tell people that God had showed me both legalistic and spirit filled ministry. Through the years and studying the word (Bible) from Genesis to Revelation I became fairly knowledgeable and realized what a lyer Copeland and Duplantis and the rest of their blab it and grab it crowd are. They preach a false gospel. When you know the lord and get closer to him he reveals what being rich means. He tells us where your heart is there your treasure will be. I've never had a lot of money and worked two jobs since leaving the navy in 1992 . I worked at and retired march 2024 from UPS and have a decent pension and money from naval service and my Social Security, my wife and I do well. But I love giving I've been averaging anywhere from one hundred to one fifty every week in tighths and offerings. "BUT" I don't give to a church I give to ST JUDE,, OPERATION SMILE AND ONE FOR ISRAEL.. now if I go to church on Sunday Or any day I write a check.. I'm not going to let a church Rob God from his money he supplies me with. But all those thieves that work with Copeland not a chance.. Im getting my reward in heaven and I trust God to supply my needs,,he does ,it's amazing how faithful he is, he is always surprising me with a random check In My mail box. Give and receive,, forgive and be forgiven, the Gospel is Jesus coming and dieing and rising the 3rd day and ascending to heaven,,promising to return which will probably be a little later on tonight ,we'll I Hope anyway..it's all about us trusting GOD (Elohim,, father,son,holispirit) and believing what he's told us through his written WORD.. Ole Kenneth needs to make some changes, God cares about his word and that aint what Copeland talks about..I thank God that he changes the desires of your heart to be like his desires. He is the way ,truth and life. I'll shut up now,,really like your channel and subscribed. May God touch you with his love, knowledge and wisdom in the only name to pray Messiah Jesus.. thankyou.......!!!!!!!
@Charity-vm4bt
@Charity-vm4bt Сағат бұрын
Good testimony
@yesitsme8606
@yesitsme8606 16 сағат бұрын
Very good video, keep them coming as long as everything is factual and true!! Yes, you are correct in the cabal of paying each other off for SPEAKING fees/seeds...
@tomflinn9815
@tomflinn9815 16 сағат бұрын
I always felt disturbed when I would run across Copeland on the TV. The first time I heard more in-depth on what he teaches was from Dr. Harold Willmington, the Dean of the Liberty Bible Institute at Liberty University when I was a student in the Institute in 1996-97. I then understood the disturbance in my spirit during Copeland speaking on TV. Side note, if you think Dallas-Ft. Worth roads are bad in a car, try them in an 18-wheeler like I do now when my work has me there.
@skilz8098
@skilz8098 14 сағат бұрын
Out 99% of all of the televised ministries I've seen throughout the past few decades going back to the late 90s early 2000s, there's only one that I've ever truly paid attention to and followed and that is the Shephard's Chappel with Pastor Arnold Murray. Why? He actually Taught the Word, Book by Book, Verse by Verse, Word by Word. He even had a section of his broadcast segment that people would send written letters asking questions. He would answer them to the best of his abilities all based on biblical foundations and truths. He also refrained from receiving or answering any incoming questions based on any other specific church, denomination, etc. He never asked for tithes or offerings. At least here, the way he taught, what he taught, and how he always allowed the Scriptures to lead the teachings. Within my spirit, my soul, my mind, my heart, I could easily tell that it was Sound Doctrine. Not some wild fantasy that most other televised three ring circuses do. His one lesson within the Book of Ezekiel, especially chapter 13 on how God feels about and will deal with false teachers, false prophets, and those who would lead his flocks away is very interesting to say the least. I think they skipped over these on their Sunday school lessons. Oh wait, the real Sabbath isn't even on Sunday. The real Sabbath if you're staying true to the 10 Commandments which Christ didn't come to do away with but to fulfill is actually Saturday. Oh, the irony and hypocrisy are so laughable even a deaf person can hear how bad it is. If one is truly blessed with the mercy, grace and gifts of the Holy Spirit. They just know. Ephesians 6:12 is more relevant now than it ever has been, and time is running out as I feel it in my heart that this is the last generation. It won't be long. I've seen and heard many teachings, and most of those "feel good, or wealth" type shows, I'd steer far away from. I'd also be very weary and cautious of those who teach in the "rapture" too. There's a common theme all throughout the scriptures. The darkness comes first, then the light. Also, the great deceiver always comes presenting itself as being the light. Christ was the First as his Words created all things. And Christ is the Omega for he also comes last, after the great deception. So, like I said, I would be very cautious about falling into the trap or snare of the "rapture" teachings. Yeshua, and the Apostles never taught that. They always taught in the Resurrection, being reborn, made new. Oh, and I'm originally from the East Coast drove all through NJ, Philly, NYC, Baltimore, D.C. and when I lived in the Midwest for a short while, I've been through Indianapolis, Chicago, and other cities out that way. Then more recently I've been all throughout FL from Broward County to Osceola County, and Jacksonville region, etc. and now I'm currently in the DFW area living in Irving. The highways here are just as you described it. Yet some of the worst driving I've ever seen and traffic I've been in was definitely in Southern FL, and perhaps even in the Orlando area especially Route 4. That highway makes the beltway of Baltimore look like a joy ride, and that Baltimore beltway can be a nightmare at times. Now, I don't drive commercially especially where a CDL is required, but I have driven 5 speed manuals throughout the Northeast even in the dead of Winter! Don't get me wrong, I enjoy being in the south, but most the drivers down here I couldn't imagine them surviving a week in Appalachia during the Winter when there's snow and ice on the ground. Hell, half of them don't even know what to do when it starts to rain down here. If I see snow on the ground down here, I do not even leave the house! I'd love to see them drive a 5 speed on an icy road going uphill that's fairly steep with a red light at the top. I hope they have insurance if they don't know how to handle those road conditions. So yeah, I've seen all kinds of road patterns, various traffics, and some of the dumbest drivers too. I'd almost pay to watch some of these southern drivers to drive on the Chicago loop during a white out blizzard. It would be entertaining to say the least. Hmm maybe we could turn that into a pay-per-view event. It'd beat having to hear these false teachers on the air. Yeah, and I won't sugar coat it either!
@NotEasyButSimple
@NotEasyButSimple 17 сағат бұрын
We had a transit at DFW and I warned my whole family to not drink the water because there is clearly something in the waters down there. In fact, "don't touch anything!" 😅
@peggygoad517
@peggygoad517 12 сағат бұрын
Kenneth can’t be sick he has to live until he is 120!
@janice1493
@janice1493 10 сағат бұрын
I saw KC and he predicted that he is going to die in 2052. He said that he will be 120 yrs old then. He said this recently. Gloria has got Dementia and she never gets on stage anymore, she hasn't been out in public in a long time. They did have her at one of the convention very recently but she didn't say a word. She was on the stage with a lot of people around her. It's really sad that they do all of this deceiving. They don't have the miracles to back up what they teach other people. Im not saying that God cannot or will not heal someone I truly believe that He can and does. But I don't tell people that for money. It grives my heart to know that people are so blinded by their teachings. We have got to be a generation that studies the Word of God so that we can teach Salvation to the next generation. Thank you Melissa for this message of truth.
@CarmellaD
@CarmellaD 16 сағат бұрын
I really appreciate your words here that sometimes expose videos could make us cynical! Nobody talks about that and I do agree with that! And the way you called it a hangover was perfect analogy. It’s so exhausting even though it is most of the time needed. Some I believe do not do expose videos with the right intentions of their hearts. I see and hear that you do! You are genuinely helping others move away from these false prophets and false religions/ministries. I do appreciate you Sister in Christ! ❤
@stephaniehopkinsartist
@stephaniehopkinsartist 17 сағат бұрын
The preacher who used that sign in the beginning of the video is extremely offensive and disrespectful to say to someone.
@bucketspree4952
@bucketspree4952 17 сағат бұрын
Yeah it's like f u basically, right?
@THXx1138
@THXx1138 16 сағат бұрын
He isn't a preacher. He is a con man.
@BeckyBlake-sd1pg
@BeckyBlake-sd1pg 15 сағат бұрын
Right
@AbelQuintana-n4b
@AbelQuintana-n4b 14 сағат бұрын
That is jesse duplantis. His arrogance, greed, and rudeness is off the charts.
@wlknonsonshine
@wlknonsonshine 7 сағат бұрын
​@AbelQuintana-n4b well, he does live in a 35,000 sf house
@Orvillec1
@Orvillec1 14 сағат бұрын
Sounds like an Amway convention...God bless you, sister!
@Pacific_Storm
@Pacific_Storm 14 сағат бұрын
Steve Kozar of "The Messed up Church" was a member of Charismania and Amway, and he often makes that connection
@anniezessin8591
@anniezessin8591 13 сағат бұрын
Keith Moore is 100% legitimate. He has taught me about faith what faith is and how to live by faith. I am not a word of faith follower and I do not believe the prosperity message is from Jesus. I would not listen to any word of faith teaching but Keith Moore is different. He truly is a man of God with a true and sincere heart for Jesus and the Father and I Trust him even though I don't agree with everything he believes concerning Wealth and health. His heart is truly after God.
@Charity-vm4bt
@Charity-vm4bt Сағат бұрын
Thanks!
@easttexan2933
@easttexan2933 5 сағат бұрын
Born again in Jan 78 in a small charismatic church in Mont Belvieu, Tx. Our pastor preached a prosperity gospel but he was also very based in faith in Christ. I bought into prosperity, name it and claim it, healings, casting out demons, speaking in tongues, being slain in spirit but I was new in Christ so who was I to question anything going on. But a funny thing happened as I grew in the word in my own studies and began relying on what the word was saying and less and less on what the pastor was saying. Kenneth Hagin, Jerry Savelle, Jesse Duplantis, John Osteen (Joel's daddy), and others who were beginning to make a name in that circle were regular speakers at that church. I began to understand that all that was being taught was not always the complete truth. After about 10 years, I finally could not support what was coming from the pulpit and we left. That pastor passed away in 2018 (I think) and Jesse Duplantis was the main guest speaker and he sang the song, "what a wonderful day" that Louie Armstrong made popular and he sang it and it sounded just like Louie Amstrong was singing it. I did not attend, but watched on a recorded video of the service. It was pure entertainment and that is the problem with the prosperity message in the church today.....it's entertainment. It feels good.
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