My First Time Playing Against a Cheater

[@Camo_bomb]

love how you can see the moment caba figured it out at 9:08 "wait i wanna try something" "yep"

[@ellguy1965]

That’s good that u saw that cuz ur absolutely right that was the moment he said wait a min, yep he’s cheating

[@adamjones7014]

@@ellguy1965 what's wild is these scripts that whiff punish aren't just on PC or SF6, I ran into it on Xbox Street Fighter 4. The cheats are so advanced now. Whatever they're using, it can whiff basically any normal under the laggggiest of conditions.

[@markkwan4195]

the most sus thing is everytime he kncoks down oppoenent, he simply walk straight into them for the oki. No dashes, footsies or baiting, usually there''s only two explanations, either he is bad or he is 100% sure he can react to any moves the opponent does and counter them.

[@itsEpi_]

Chris definitely took a break after that lmao

[@Bubblerlol]

Gotta love RPS lol

[@arielgomes7989]

I don't know which youtuber brought this up, but when this becomes really problematic is when already good players start using these scripts in a not so obvious way. Like auto-tech 50% of the time, or auto-DI 20% of the time (while not getting combo'd, if the scripts get that good). This stuff would be really hard to spot, and with most tournaments taking place Online, it would really hurt the competitive health of the game.

[@obiwankenobi3548]

Probably either Brian_F or Broski

[@SaucyCheeseburgerwithRanch]

@@obiwankenobi3548feels like Broski said this

Couple people brought it up, I think Broski, Sonic_Sol, and Brian_F did.

[@Merknilash]

Yep Exactly to why I won’t ever pick up this game again I’m just a bleh plat player but this kind of stuff ruins the game for me

[@Bpp908]

@@Merknilash Dont play pc players until fixed

[@BluRay8o4]

Being 2000 MR, normally blocking a wakeup super and punishing it with a throw is already a gigantic red flag lol.

[@tilting_cat3344]

this;even plat punish with 4k dmg atleast

[@raven7672]

True, thats smh you just see in gold rankeds, when i was gold everyone were doing that, but in platinum everyone had at least 1 combo for that

[@KENTA.7320]

There’s nothing wrong with that though

[@tilting_cat3344]

@@KENTA.7320 how is that not a red flag? i get sideswitch if in corner but not punishing it when he can get corner carry and damage?

[@BluRay8o4]

@@KENTA.7320 Throwing when you have a full combo option available is definitely wrong especially at that high level of competitive play. You can literally see how confused Nephew was when he did it lol.

[@thejtrax]

I play fighting games. The thought of having to cheat to win genuinely baffles me.Taking losses is a part of the fighting game experience. Punk is an amazing player, and this year, he won evo. He didn't completely dominate everybody. He took loses but won in the end.

[@sweethistortea]

I don’t understand why people cheat in online games, there’s no sense of accomplishment for when you improve.

[@TenjinZekken]

It's not about them, it's about the experiences they can ruin. There are also people who might truly believe they are only held back by reaction time and shit, and don't realize getting something to react for you takes way more away than just the reaction itself.

[@radiosurgery1802]

I think you'd be surprised at what people can convince themselves of

[@KidArkx]

Uhh, thats like saying you dont understand why people cheat in real life. Winning, people cheat in order to win. Cheating in games makes more sense than cheating in the olympics. I can go to jail for taking steroids in the olympics. The worst that happens for sf6 is I get banned and make a new account.

[@Kannon_Shots]

people just have fun doing it. they arent looking for improvement theyre looking for a higher rank and the game telling them they won. Or they think its fun to ruin other peoples enjoyment of the game.

[@gameclips5734]

they like any attention too as they don't get enough irl

[@gameclips5734]

if you ever see a high rank cammy doing low forward spin knuckle a bunch of times you know they have no clue how to play and are probably cheating

[@DavidTector]

For real

[@MikeLiteraus]

I don't know why Capcom hasn't implemented some type of anti cheat like they use in FPS games.

[@ViolentHateCrime]

Probably the same reason you can still make your name ANYTHING as long as you put a word in front of it

[@lukdb]

Anti cheats are not a good solution, they're intrusive, lower performance and people easily bypass those with some spoofed hardware. I'm saying this because fighting games can make do with automated banning, since the list of inputs are recorded on replays. All they gotta do is grade the consistency of responses.

[@DavidTector]

One of the first things you learn as a hacker is how EASILY AND RELIABLY BYPASS ANTICHEAT. So anti cheat doesn't do sh..

[@Gleapgoogleplusisgone]

​@@DavidTectorYou don't even know how to easily and reliably write a comment. You definitely are not bypassing any basic anti cheat software.

[@Hemestal]

Because surface level anti-cheats are worthless placebos that just slow down your gameplay and can be circumvented by anyone with half a brain. Only ring 0 level anti-cheats have shown some promise, and even then it requires constant human supervision, and that's without taking into account the grievances of the people that don't feel safe giving some overseas company kernel access to their systems.

[@exshadowkick5564]

Oh, this clown again. I've already ran into him and blocked him. My brother did the same. Sayff also ran into this clown, and as you can see. Other high ranking players. If everyone blocks him, he won't have anyone to play. So do your due diligence please, and spread the word to block him.

[@JusRed48]

Also one of the giveaways that bearded_balls is cheating? His total playtime is 30 hours.

[@JusRed48]

This is crazy and I really hope Capcom addresses this and is able to take action and solve it. It feels like it's becoming a lot more common with more suspicious players lately.

[@Merknilash]

There’s nothing capcom can do long term Maybe a short period

[@zeeet1]

2:45 That Ape Scape music got me. Well done Nephew

[@HafusAndLegacy]

Cammy doing a little rax cosplay in the thumbnail, i like it

[@thegamingniceguy3181]

Here is a guy that I feel is cheating SirRalic-PC's. His inputs give it away. I played him in Battle Hub. He has an 86.43% win rate. Barely plays but reacts to everything.😂 Of course, he denied it and just said I was bad. It's the same old line.

[@KENTA.7320]

Sounds like an skill issue

[@thegamingniceguy3181]

@@KENTA.7320 Same old stale reply.

[@RitzScythe]

Streamers/content creators gotta start posting to twitter so capcom actually takes the problem seriously -__-

[@outthefryinpan]

crazy setup and reaction by caba at 10:49

[@itzantsilog7939]

LOL love the ape escape music!! I hate cheaters man

[@georgesmith5201]

Those are some Punk level whiff punishing.

[@albertko1]

Even Punk isn't catching the at the minimum amount of frames every single time.

[@georgesmith5201]

​@@albertko1 Yeah, even Punk isn't going to catch all those, which begs the question who this cheater even thinks they were convincing? 😂

[@LaughTalePainting]

Wow I just started playing and didn't even know this was a thing people were doing... Why?

[@Bluechief6]

More surprising than a cheater is watching an Akuma in Masters mashing on wake-up in the corner

[@ectothermic]

Keep in mind these people don't just have buttons for reactions but also auto combos without the nerf from Modern. They're not good at the game, they have it played for them. The script reacts to specific inputs, I think on that last round the Guile player was doing random shit to get the script to fuck up. It's the only way to beat 'em.

[@GrayD_Fox]

It's the worst kind of cheater, someone who is actually competent at the game, but uses the cheats just to keep their ego safe from missing things

[@DavidTector]

This stuff blatent in diamond too. And suddenly recently it's getting more frequent where I run into dudes that just sit there and perfect react to the first thing I do. Particularly di's and instant jump in on a fireball or step back.

[@Gleapgoogleplusisgone]

Reacting to di just takes ears. The real danger to the community with cheaters is the players in the lower ranks like diamond who are definitely not fighting cheaters becoming convinced they are.

[@Dsouls9]

somehow I find that hard to believe as it would take virtually no time to get to masters with cheats.

[@BasicMushroom]

​@@Dsouls9gotta be crazy to think people are only cheating in master.

[@Dsouls9]

​@@BasicMushroom the original comment makes it seem like it's a somewhat common thing now. I play both in diamond/master depending on the character, and it is not like he's trying to paint it, at least not in EU. And as I've stated before, even decently good players can get a character from diamond to master in under an hour, let alone a blatant cheater with perfect DI, whiff punishes.

[@BasicMushroom]

@@Dsouls9 It is a common thing now. Most people are lagswitching too

[@Limit5482]

I played a Bison last night who was able to jab me out of every string and DI frame 1 on any buttons that DI counters. It was insane

[@DavidTector]

That's what I'm saying bro, people just say get good but as someone who works in game development I can tell you with absolute certainty there are a lot of cheaters in SF6 and just about any game with a ranked playlist. Preventing injection into the game is near impossible and blocking anit-cheat is super easy and you can no op any anti-cheat before it even runs. Super easy to bypass. The reason people get caught is because of updates changing the line the anti-cheat starts on and so the cheat no-ops the wrong line of code and fails to stop the anti-cheat.

[@Gleapgoogleplusisgone]

@@DavidTector that's one of the dumbest things I've read this month. Why do you pretend to understand anti cheat technology when you very obviously don't even understand the most basic concepts of programming? Is tricking 3 people really worth this level of shit posting when 90 people can identify you as a liar?

[@yuxbuy]

In this aspect consoles kill the PC, years of playing online without any strange behavior like this

[@RyuShinkuuHadoken]

I am sure that who cheat have some type of behavioral issues, they do not play for fun but to ruin other people's fun, some kind of psychopath behaviour.

[@realverse]

Great display from Caba

[@adelbert8981]

Perfect!

[@aoranzhu]

7:10 Modern moment baby

[@Peerinday]

Cheaters think that no one can beat him but mental battle. Once cheater in your match, relax and let the match go. Give cheater your emotional reaction, would lead to more cheaters in game. Remind yourself it is game for entertainment, not mood-ruin. Report him several times after the match, move on to another match. Mentally loss destroy your excitement, game are supposed to be enjoyable.

[@Shadar22]

This is really becoming a serious problem

[@GrayD_Fox]

Wtf was that Akuma doing bro

[@badtzkoala8345]

Capcom needs to fix this shit

[@SoulReaperAxel]

They won't, they care about money

[@johnjohnston8703]

I wonder what a buffed up juri or akuma would look like. Im sure there are ones who have the time and skill to add extra critical arts to their charchters. Make jabs do insane amount of damage and maybe even make their characters invincable. You put a cheater like that against this guy and the watch be over real quickly cause he rage quit.lmao

[@MarvelousMorrion]

I wonder if this is only in high ranks but I swear I ran into this in diamond

[@raven7672]

With the first match you can see he clearly dont even know how to play the game, maybe he was a frustrated gold player so he went to the easy way instead of learning how to play

[@caspertrog1046]

A regular throw to punish a whiffed super ... 😭 These people would be in Gold if it weren't for the scripting.

[@ShellShocks14]

the DI also gives it away BIG time. HK and 5MK are garbage buttons in this game without excellent spacing because you cant DI, so if your opponent knows the animation for your kick, theoretically youre getting DId *every single time*. them inputting di each time you HK is a huge red flag. imo this is fixed by making DI (in response to an opponents DI) *always* cancellable. then its strictly a reaction check unless you do some serious mind games. i fucking hate drive impact so much. i miss my 5MK and 5HK space/frame traps.

[@WeeWeeJumbo]

i wasn’t even subscribed??? i musta been on clown-pills again

[@AvitaBeckling]

plenty of cheats in Sf5 too no one talked about that

[@RunicSSB]

Why is the thumbnail Ed as CaseOh?

[@xcreenplay7264]

well i spent 40 bucks for nothing im waiting for terry to drop and i gotta deal with this nonsense

[@TheCJRhodes]

It’s not ubiquitous bro. This is the first one nephew has run into, and I haven’t run into any. Don’t let this dissuade you from playing and getting better

[@ellguy1965]

Lmao it’s really not a big deal these cheaters are very rare nephew plays all the time and it was a first for him But if ur scared go play smash

[@DavidTector]

@@ellguy1965 Nah probably just the first time it was so blatent. Most cheaters don't have theirs maxed out like this. There's guides on their site on how to setup to "look legit". And you can see the pros are so good they can adapt and punish the cheaters that are very blatant.

[@Kilgreys]

capcom needs an anti-cheat to block any script or program at kernel level

[@RyokoVT]

There are ways to prevent cheating that don't require kernel-level anti-cheat. Don't believe companies that say in order to prevent cheating they must have kernel level access, that's just not true. It's also a dangerous precedent, as a kernel-level program of any kind can do serious system-wide damage - look up CrowdStrike as a recent example.

[@DavidTector]

That's impossible.

[@JennaPeters-n2x]

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[@JuggernautFCP]

I quit playing the game, the quantity of cheaters is insane.

[@jjog2895]

Cope

[@caspertrog1046]

It really isn't. They are far and in between. You're probably just looking for an easy excuse to justify your loss.

[@JuggernautFCP]

@caspertrog1046 Sure, whatever makes you happy.

[@DavidTector]

Ignore the cheaters commenting, you are correct. The cheating is out of control.

[@2b-san]

Que rico están esos parches 🤣

[@Kobebeef27]

Cheater . He would stand in front of you for the auto whiff punish 😅

[@n8rollie]

Can someone help me understand why punishing the wake up super with throw is sus?

[@jessekummer7093]

It's just a really sub-optimal punish for the situation. No master level player (especially one who's 2000+ MR) would punish with a throw in a situation where they could otherwise kill. The only time where a throw would make sense when punishing something so negative would be in a situation where it would kill for optimal meter gain

[@n8rollie]

@@jessekummer7093 okay that's kinda what I assumed thank you

[@user-pg6fe4zh5c]

Moral of the story, don't play with pc players, since I'm using playstation, when meet pc player losing rate sure more than 80%

[@JennaPeters-n2x]

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[@bessibessi6619]

cheaters will kill the game, I hope you denounced it

[@Bubblerlol]

Strange that just a year ago people were complaining that modern was too easy. What a world now a days with cheaters everywhere!

[@HaychD]

what happened to tool_assisted

[@zkosmith1662]

#PutabanoptioninStreetFighter6

[@provocateur140p5]

Bro is that the theme from the electric cricket game?

[@GodlikeOCD]

Cheaters need their hardware id banned.

[@MetalFacedGamer]

I'm too new 2 the game I couldn't even tell but it just seemed like bros hands were on Compound v

[@rasifurefodi8306]

They really let anyone in 2k MR these days…. 💀

[@RADRULES]

if you don’t want cheaters play on console and filter pc out😅

[@Runk3lsmcdougal]

I'm in silver come across cheaters

[@Ruby-yb8kk]

Highly unlikely

[@Runk3lsmcdougal]

@@Ruby-yb8kk calling me a liar from 2 weeks ago boi? I'm in Gold now, and have absolutely came across cheaters

[@Ruby-yb8kk]

@@Runk3lsmcdougal ngl I'm high plat low diamond and I haven't run into a cheater not saying it's impossible but most of the cheaters have floated to the top of the rank system

[@Ruby-yb8kk]

@@Runk3lsmcdougal also considering that most cheaters make new accounts and do placements they end up higher than us

[@Runk3lsmcdougal]

@@Ruby-yb8kk I hope your right, it's definitely a problem though

[@OkairMcLaren]

I mean people think I'm a cheater because i play modern sooo lol😅😅

[@bladegrape7248]

In a game that values execution, it is. And for anyone that disagrees with me you KNOW most modern players have like 5 characters in Plat 5 and switch characters when the execution becomes crucial XD they skip silver - plat and plateau at some middling rank for no reason and it inflates the rank of a massive portion of the community.

[@Harlec]

Don't worry about those idiots, really. If you enjoy playing modern, it's perfectly fine. Said that, modern is clearly inferior to classic, so you should use it just for learning. Execution in this game is very, very lenient once you get it.

[@bladegrape7248]

@@Harlec 😌

[@jjog2895]

Im new to sf6 i got to masters with modern ryu in 110 hrs total played. Don't listen to the haters, it's nice to learn the game in modern cause not everyone wanna buy those gamepads and play piano. Only noobs complain cus they lose while having more moves and dealing 20% more dmg.

[@kakeguruibh]

first

[@TeamPycho]

bro you're basically advertising this

[@VergilMuse-c9j]

Cheating isn’t the problem. The real question is “if you don’t have a DP, what are you supposed to do against Cammy grabbing you 100 times?” That’s the real problem

[@cronosdimitri4584]

stop guessing wrong 😂

[@TheCJRhodes]

@@cronosdimitri4584”hmmm, I just got grabbed 99 times, I have a couple of different options next wake-up to deal with it, but no way he’ll grab me for the 100th time! He has to respect me!”

[@ellguy1965]

That’s true lik wtf

[@VergilMuse-c9j]

Ain’t no way boy. Y’all not pro level so I know y’all get mixed like potato salad. Even the pros get mixed up viciously

[@BrotherCheng]

What does DP have to do with this? In season 2 you have wakeup drive reversal anyway. And you have other options against throw loops.

[@williamdai8796]

i spit my lemonade out

[@Far-Right_Celt]

Looks to me like a skill issue 😏😉

[@Kilgreys]

weak bait my friend, here's your attention medal

[@Far-Right_Celt]

@@Kilgreys called a joke pal, calm down 🤣

[@sparkybig9799]

As a cheater myself I must admit that I’m currently enjoying ranked right now my Marisa is at 1950 MR!!

[@coreywilson7326]

You enjoy being a cheater?

[@sweethistortea]

@@coreywilson7326He’s just a troll looking for bait.

[@cityimaginators8230]

What's your ID to see your "wonderful" gameplay?

[@Kilgreys]

give us your ID i want to test something xDDDD

[@abnormal_titan26]

Well just know you would be nothing offline 😂

[@Kawaiidontjump]

So weird how sf6 can have cheaters .. the game is af 😂