My Gravel Race Bike Setup for Belgian Waffle Ride Cedar City

[@djpowers3765]

"Pulling out is always the last resort" - How did BHD not reply to this?!?!?!?

[@Cgsailing]

Came to say this 4 hours too late.

[@jcsrst]

Haha!! Too late 🤣

[@wazzup105]

I almost spewed my drink over my keyboard when I heard him say that

[@tgoods5049]

The FCC censored that part

[@michaelglidewell1524]

that and the "just remember to zip it back up" comment towards the start of video

[@linesided]

Love your comments about 2X vs 1X. Had the pleasure, back in the day, to ride with Andreas Hestler on the North Shore - he told me the best thing about 2X was being able to change directly between big and small front rings and make that huge gear jump either going into a steep climb or coming over the top of one. I never really considered the cross-chaining impact but it makes total sense to me. 1X is waaaay over-hyped IMO.

[@joshuahunt1210]

And yet many pros are still racing with 1x rings... I like Chevy trucks by the way. I find their engine is more efficient and lasts longer than the Ford. My dad likes the Ford though, since he prefers the transmission of the Ford.... I hunt with a 270 Winchester but my cousin prefers a .308 Winchester. He likes bigger bullets. I like more speed. I was using a 1x setup before they came out with 1x setups from the factory (removed rings from my 2x). I prefer to have one less thing to think about in our hilly terrain. Truth be told, 2x is more of a pain in punchy climbs and elevation while it's more advantageous for flatter races..... 2x on the road bike all day though.... Also really appreciate Dylan's input. He always puts out great videos!

[@tomcruz3774]

It's nice to know someone else who uses mtb cleats with road shoes and they also prefer 2x

[@durianriders]

It's the logical choice

[@n1sm0r]

Love 2x here as well.

[@Rollin5]

How are the Crank Brothers adapter to walk in?

[@stuartdryer1352]

Anyone who can lube a chain while riding has insane bike handling skills.

[@chasepalpatine170]

He was likely in the super tuck as well...with one foot unclipped. Total rock star.

[@jsmit9484]

I really want to see this on video. What a legend

[@kyletaylor1986]

Not as hard as you’d think. If you can pick a bottle of the ground while riding you could do it. Try it- you got it!

[@stuartdryer1352]

@@kyletaylor1986 I wax my chains anyway.

[@emersonrezende]

I appreciate the video, for all of the wannabes like me understanding what a pro does is very helpful.

[@bluemystic7501]

I'm surprised backwards hat Dylan didn't chime in (7:25).

[@bradyb2482]

Now there is 12mins of gravel advice gold people.

[@DanKolan]

EF Education First has been experimenting and using tire inserts this season for their road races. It was mentioned on Mitch Docker's Life in the Peloton podcast.

[@tonimeiners8945]

Through these videos i signed up and completed my first gravel race today. Went well but completly underestimated how hard it is on the lower back and triceps. Better hit the gym and consume lots of protein shakes in the process...

[@chasepalpatine170]

And hyper gain beast mode cookie doe flavor for winter months

[@YuriThorpe]

BHD has become a staple in my group ride with friends. Little known fact, BHD runs his hat backwards because it's less drag than if he were to run it forward because the brim of the hat could catch wind.

[@mattcardarelli]

If it’s not a strava it didn’t happen!!

[@terreyhills]

Never give durian rider any oxygen. It only encourages him.

[@terreyhills]

@@Craze_Lifter no I don't like bullies and the childish little trolls...

[@domestique3954]

😂

[@kevinderung8524]

I would love to see the video regarding saddle position in relation to femur and tibia length, I have went back and forth between 54 and 56 for the past decade and am still not 100% confident I or my bike fitter are any closer to the ideal setup. Congratulations on the race and the channel, the best in the business!

[@adanielweaver]

Squirt for the win. I am totally sold on it as well, especially how long it lasts. I used to have to lube every ride but now can go two or three between applications. However, not sure about applying it mid race. It says on it specifically to allow it to fully dry before you use it. You want the wax on the chain without the water to attract grit. Seems like adding squirt mid ride just gives the chain more of a chance to attract grit while it is drying.

[@workingguy-OU812]

In the low-humidity environment that seemed to be, it may still work as intended. I watched another race-coverage video from a racer who also stated that, by the middle of the race all of his chain lube was gone. One has to do something in that situation.

[@whip113]

There is the ideal setting, then there is "better than nothing". The excess on the outside of the chain doesn't do much to lube the chain though, its what wicks into the rollers that matters.

[@ezramullen4551]

Tire inserts make so much sense with gravel tires! Save those carbon rims. Excellent bike/wheel setup.

[@antonXPS]

Story well told and adds to the content variety. Great result also 👍

[@jamegumm]

Great Vid! Nice meeting you today!

[@metamurph]

sweet, I have to do this next year. I was "just over the hill" at our place near bryce, now i have a year of planning and prep :-)

[@sanchezmd605]

Thanks for sharing your knowledge! -your number one fan from the Philippines 😆

[@DilbertMuc]

"I was wondering about Durianrider... and finally at the end of the video... BINGO!" :D)))

[@DilbertMuc]

@@pecxs991 google for his youtube channel.

[@xaviermelendez2639]

Really great video, love the set-up, especially the tire inserts!

[@Geeios1]

Just a suggestion that is easily provable, Having your saddle forward lessens the amount of quad muscle use and isolates the muscle you do use, tiring it out quicker. It also makes for a shorter power stroke and limits the use of the saddle as an anchor. You should do a FTP test with your saddle back placing the saddle center at 73°, and don't forget to lower it. If the stem needs to be shortened below 60mm the bike is too big. I've seen the article on moving the saddle forward for aero but then you have to raise it, raising your whole body into the air, increasing the bend at the waist. It also ties up your hips and thighs when bent over so far. Saddle placement and rider position over the BB shouldn't be determined by the length of your femur. Checkout Keith Bontrager, the myth of KOPS. But everybody's different.

[@peteranderson6935]

I'm with Dylan on this one, I've changed all my bikes for in-line seat posts after trying it on my track bike. More torque, better cadence, just felt smoother. Can use more of the saddle as well.

[@MrWhit9]

Good morning Dylan. Your videos are top notch.

[@mischifer1]

I didn't even notice on the race recap video that the aero bars were gone 😂 interesting. Keep up the good work!

[@wilberthruiz3622]

Never pull out 😂 thank you for taking about your set up , gear ratio and tyres!

[@peteransel2715]

Excellent, detailed set up info. Really helpful and much appreciated. Love your videos.

[@ChrisCanMakeStuff]

Great video. I like the shoe choice, I wish Assioma made mtb pedals. Btw your bars are 40cm or 400mm wide, a 40mm wide bar is about as wide as your thumb :) But hey at least you're trying to be metric :D

[@kchall5]

I see BHD made it back from wandering aimlessly in the desert after being dropped and stranded. I presume he got no bike path KOM's that day.

[@EdgePereira]

Awesome stuff as always. And I love your references to DR. It cracks me up 😂😂

[@calebchristian9521]

Nice to see ya out there !

[@roby330i5]

Thanks man! I learned so much. Your best video yet!

[@durianriders]

Squirt the absolute best. Good to see you cut that steerer down proper 🤘

[@d077Z]

So are disks okay on gravel? No comment on proprietary cockpit? You're slipping. Not enough carbs?

[@chasepalpatine170]

Yep, spacer police called off.

[@EdgePereira]

@durianrider I use Nullarbor white on mine. Got me a mount cootha KOM 🇦🇺😍

[@mellowcat42]

“Discs for dirt, rims for road” I believe is the DR tag line. Do what works for you, I say. Btw, Is there a support group for watching too many bike vids or is there a v + 1 rule?

[@johevideos]

Plenty of good info . Thanks Dylan.

[@RGCastro7]

Thank you for sharing, Dylan. Super interesting to see.

[@hinni1997]

7:26 „Pulling out is definitely the last resort“ :)

[@timtaylor9590]

a lot of ppl use aero bars for comfort, but theyre also useful when riding solo

[@BlackWaterCyclist]

Great video Dylan! Love that article on VeloNews about 1x drag. To drop some more weight, you should get a Quarq Dub crank which you can move your power meter over to. They are about $199 now and considerably lighter than almost anything else out there. I used to run SPD on my road shoes but felt it added a good bit to stack to the shoes and didn't like that. I'll have to check out those egg beaters adapters, they look lower. I know many are talking about your bike size, I have looked and there are several studies on seat tube angle and almost always the crazy steep seat tube angle is faster but usually it's a position that cannot be held for long periods (20 minutes).

[@Hexsense]

Only if you can still get a hand on D1 version. Sram is replacing Quarq arms with D2 version which is more than 100g heavier. D2 is essentially Sram Force crank arms, rather than Sram Red of D1. weightweenies.starbike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=163618

[@BlackWaterCyclist]

@@Hexsense I think you actually commented on my Quarq post on Facebook. Great info!!! And thanks for the heads up on that

[@mellis4726]

I've used Eggbeaters for a long time, but will no longer use Ti spindles (i.e. Eggbeater 11s) as I've snapped three of them. I'm no clydesdale at 157lbs and 58 years old.

[@carlosflanders518]

Love flared bars for gravel and CX. Apart from improved handling on downhills and ruts, I can get my head lower than non-flared and also breathe much better - aero difference is a wash or better but this depends on the rider.

[@graffix11us]

You know you're getting into dangerous weight weenie territory when BHD is agreeing with you!

[@chefnigeltv8580]

Low key, Durianrider is a an impact in cycling vloggers and community wether ppl admit it or not.

[@palicar]

Awesome ride. I’m going to look for those inserts. Thanks

[@marcus_velo_9970]

Dylan, love your meticulous approach to your racing and fitness etc, this channel is a great resource and experience for riders. One observation of your riding, I noticed in Joe Goettl footage that you're pushing a big gear which if you watch carefully aren't a smooth spin, now I know you're pushing out the watts, just thought maybe you'd have a comment on this. I know at times I have to stop myself doing this mini stomp style, but of course if you have the power use it I guess.

[@mikegarrigan9113]

Dude, love these! great content.

[@sid503007]

Breakdown of reasons I watch your videos: 1) legit advice: 30% 2) backward hats Dylan : 50% 3) shade thrown at durianrider : 20% Btw, googled durianrider sometime ago.. someone made a "special" website for him: durianriderrapist.com Bahahahaha 🤣🤣🤣

[@durianriders]

Legit? The guy who runs that site is being served papers this week. What's your address and my lawyer can serve you aswell.

[@sid503007]

And the @durianrider responds 😂 oh man who would have thought.. this guy is literal comedy walking around.

[@armyjawbreaker]

watched some video of that course. it was wicked. well done!

[@TheTheMScope]

2:25...meanwhile Dylan talking about a super aerodynamic skinsuit :P

[@crailwah]

Absolutely top tier vid. A

[@DaveCM]

I use those tires on my gravel bike. On the same paved courses, I only have about 0.5 mph slower average than I do on my road bike. So, it isn't a big loss.

[@mib7483]

More info on the Tubolight setup. I can't find them in the US stores.

[@n1sm0r]

Cool insight on the tire inserts. You turned me into the pathfinders and I really enjoy them, though for some reason the black sidewall version came in 60g above claimed weight. I can’t say I notice it though especially on the road

[@kodiakrider7612]

I’m sure you know this but Squirt works best if you let it sit overnight. Allows the water base to evaporate and leaves just the wax. On-the-fly lubing will just introduce water to the system.

[@frazergoodwin4945]

Yeah, Pathfinder Pro 42mm tanwall. At least there's one bike set up item we share!

[@TriathlonDan]

Sweet ride and a great explanation of the kit choices 🤙

[@andrewbray2924]

Keep em coming! Loved the vid

[@petinka721]

Dylan really think at everything before a race!

[@AllanPhillips]

Some very interesting tips and tricks - thanks for sharing.

[@oscarrosales4975]

Congratulations

[@zaahierstanley955]

Congratulations Champ! Interesting that you riding a 56 size frame and never went a size smaller ... any reason ?

[@tomalbert3299]

Saw your comment after I wrote mine. ;-)

[@yeetminnie_6949]

its gravel race , long hours of biking is better for a bigger frame because of comfortability in a bike position. . comftable is fast in a gravel race

[@stephenmalta2906]

Speaking of KOMs with the Pathfinder 42, I filmed a gravel bike KOM on those tires from the Golden Gate Bridge to the San Francisco Yaht Club. Only video on my channel atm if you want to check out. I also mixed the music for fun ahead of time knowing where I'd be iin the attempt and had fun during the COVID shutdowns working on the hobby project haha

[@kc3718]

dude, the aero cost of that second ring is circa 10 watts, and that's over the whole course. Also there's been research into the weight of shoe's and their influence upon performance and basically there isn't any significant measurable amount ( i seem to recall the that a few hundred grams equated to approx 0.002 watts or something ridiculous ), except in aerodynamics of the profile.

[@workingguy-OU812]

You just keep on believing that, lol.

[@rlm4471]

Source?

[@CentristRN]

Looking at the proportions of your bike. Can you post your saddle height, please. Best HiPer gravel channel on YT! Road pedal/road shoes for me! 🙂

[@rogsands5644]

I got to see you lube chain while riding, need to do a video on it.. I also love the squirt lube, but have never lubed chain while riding

[@jralicea6299]

Well done, great content, thanks!

[@ridethelakes]

Great video from a fellow weight weenie thanks 👍. I'm not a bike fitter but with that saddle slammed forward would you not be better off with a size 54?

[@DylanJohnsonCycling]

Thanks! How far forward you put your saddle has more to do with your femur length compared to your tibia length than your reach. Maybe I'll make a video about it.

[@dmallo]

@@DylanJohnsonCycling Please do!

[@Mbtharp1]

@@DylanJohnsonCycling a bike fit video would be epic! I’m 6’ with short ass legs and have been struggling to get my bikes to fit right.

[@Dri1a]

Hey Dylan, nice vid and setup ! Few questions : Do you put tubeless sealant with your tubolight inserts ? If yes, which one ? Do you know the rolling resistance numbers of the specialized pathfinder tires ? I checked on bicyclerollingresistance website and couldn't find them. Thanks

[@againthebegin]

BRR hasn’t tested them. He’s been slow to the game with gravel tires and worse yet is testing a lot of smaller sizes which aren’t that helpful. I think I’ve seen most or all of the tests out there, and the only data on Pathfinder I’ve seen is from a German magazine, and it only tested the 38mm size. That said...It did come out pretty well on rolling resistance, about three watts slower than the fastest, the Continental Terra Speed. 22.1W for Conti, 25.2 for Pathfinder. The Conti is the fastest thing going in a lot of tests, at least for a real tire with some protection against flats, but it measures small, usually about 38-39mm for the “40” size, depending on your wheels. So if you need more volume -- and this course absolutely did -- Pathfinder 42 is a good choice. I ran one in rear and a WTB Resolute in front for a little more bit. Both measure out at 43mm-plus on my wheels.

[@steveruppel]

Awesome video!

[@Liplip40]

Subscribed. Great content

[@tgoods5049]

Love this content.

[@jmounce50]

Cool video, very nice bike.

[@db613]

Thanks for this 😊

[@frankcarbonneau7]

Excellent review, all around! And here I thought, once trained, the 1x was the way to go- esp if you fix everything with a hammer. Interesting take on power. Also love the Spec Pro 42's. Have not gone tubeless (don't throw tomatoes) so Q....Is sealant still effective with Tubolights installed?

[@sharpcsc998]

Great video, thank you.

[@TurneyUK]

Interesting stuff, especially the tyre insert and how low you drop your tyre pressure. I don’t like the soggy feeling you get when the tyres have very little pressure, especially if you hit a rock and you can feel it hit the rims as the tyres deflect. I wonder if this in some way goes towards counteracting this.

[@fionnmalin7784]

Any ideas what BHD is always looking at? my guess is a mirror

[@matthewpalmer1898]

I'd like to see a review of the tire insert you are using.

[@JamesHuxford]

2 videos in 1 week happy days, have you done a video on 1x vs 2x set up?

[@CL-dh2mf]

Enjoying EVERYONE of your videos Dylan - thanks for posting! One question: Are you sponsored by Specialized for tires? Would love to hear your thoughts about Rene Herse tires as I think they are superb in every way. Also the price...Greetings from Germany! ✌

[@HuntingWestCork]

Hey, you need to tell the Vegan Cyclist about tyre pressure

[@steveJHS]

where are those turbolight inserts coming from? Looks like they are based in Europe and their website doesn't show USA as a shipping option.

[@PaulJakma]

If you're having to lube your chain mid-race, would it be worth looking at waxing the chain? The big advantage of wax is it doesn't attract and hold dirt - like oil. The chain stays /very/ clean.

[@GeekonaBike]

How come we never see any bike profiles for BHD's bikes? Obviously, you have to shoot it at the trailhead parking area.

[@BecauseWhyWithPancho]

Loved this, but I do have one disagreement - unless you have immaculate timing with breaking going downhill, I've found the 700x38 Pathfinders to be extremely unpredictable and squirrelly on loose over hard. They may be great on flat gravel and pavement, but they have terrible traction both going up and going down on gravel surfaces.

[@roilev]

Great video and detail explanation. I like your pedal and shoes combo. I rarely see the eggbeaters being used outside of the Crankbrothers sponsored riders. Even if they are extremely light, shed mud the best and I find them also easiest to clip in and out of. I've heard they are not as efficient as shimanos, you lose power with them, through the spring flex? Do you have any info on that?

[@poncho_arroyo]

I bought a set of tubolights after watching an old bike check video of yours, never received them. I emailed them, twice... no answer.

[@metamurph]

so, I think I am going to wafer this on my XC bike but run 700x40s instead of the 2.2s I am not in it to win it just have fun but... I know with the paved bits etc. my XC is SLOW did 66 saturday. I am in the argument with myself about 2x vs 1x. I have done a lot of riding up dirt in s. utah at higher altitude than BWR so I know what that takes. thoughts?

[@cypriano8763]

now that most race bike come with 32 mm tire clearance, could they not be used as gravel super bikes. maybe not for the bwr but for like dirty kanza. they are a couple pounds lighter. i mean a compact 34/50 with a 32t cassette would be enough for most climbs if not all. im thinking about the giant tcr here

[@Hexsense]

50/34 is proper on gravel when you fit enough to shoot for podium. For me though, On gravel double chainrings 44/28 or 46/30 is more appropriate.

[@alesipavec6587]

2 questions: 1. how does 52/34 combination shift?...usually is 50/34 or 52/36...jump is quite high 2. why would first puncture lead to multiple punctures...where is the correlation?

[@timtaylor9590]

is the 52 big ring to stay in larger cogs in the back? why not 48 or 50 up front maybe even go 30 or 32 smaller ring

[@TheAcfallejoseph]

No electric shifting? I have been wondering about this. For long rides is electric a good idea? Any advice?

[@gregorylafayette6260]

Where did you get your tire inserts and how do you spell them? Tubolite? Went to Amazon but could not find them. Thank you

[@DylanJohnsonCycling]

tubolight.bike/

[@MorganBrown]

great video and the race report was also great. What is the brand of the tire inserts?

[@ianiscaratti4924]

tell me about those grx brakes. i tried them and think they break weak. compared to paul comp clampers the end power is weak and compared to ultegra the grx brakes have less modulation and even power. a friend switched from grx to xrt fm calipers and it's like night and day

[@jmwalsh2]

quick question.. i know... or think... in the past you've run a mid compact on your gravel bike. I am really looking into getting the newest Niner RLT RDO... can it fit a 52-36 and you just decided to go with a 50?

[@garygumnut4803]

Hi Dylan, what is it about your fit that makes you prefer by the looks a zero offset seatpost? Do you set your bike up differently when you are using the clip aero bars? Thanks

[@jurajbenicek8999]

Hey, great video! Why dont you than use parafin wax which, based on the study you provided, is fastest in all conditions? (squirt is not parafin wax)

[@vincena712]

hey dylan, nice bike! i was wondering how the red crank affects your chainline? I'm currently thinking about getting a crank based powermeter on my grx800 groupset and trek checkpoint frame. Only (reasonable priced) supplier would be stages for me, but they dont offer the grx crank in 165mm. Do you think a ultegra right sided crank with the grx chainrings would do the job? thanks in advance!

[@bobqzzi]

Very cool.

[@pchlars5666]

I think my reach is a bit to long. Now my stem is 100mm. Will 80mm stem be a stupid idea? I do not race.

[@samuraioodon]

Hi Dylan so what was the weight of your complete bike on race day? Weightweenie question ❓

[@Tethysmeer]

Gonna train to lube the chain while riding. My mates will be impressed :)