My honest opinion of F1's Drive to Survive: Season 4

[@leeshepherd3899]

Really refreshing to see honesty. Criticising something from your main form of revenue can be risky. But fair play to you. Appreciate it.

[@ktjohnsey4659]

Or is he making it out to be bad so that it being amazing makes us love it even more

[@regimiro4888]

Yeah because absolutely no one is ever honest about DTS being shit right?

[@ktjohnsey4659]

😂😂😂 just hope really

[@HakimieAnuar]

Most of the f1 fans hate season 3 so criticising DTS isnt abnormal

[@JacopoBasanisi]

@@HakimieAnuar Yeah I feel like DTS was for fans in S1, then only for "casuals", also for just americans, they like drama

[@eh_ynot]

What made the previous seasons so interesting to watch was that each episode told a story, there was a gradual build up from recapping/setting the scenes to the big finale race/battle. Each episode had weight and felt important in the season's long run (heck they did a better job with the whole pandemic episodes than what they produced last season). DTS4 felt like a mess, episodes didn't flow, there was no continuity and a lot of major moments weren't included. Too much focus on personal drama with little focus on the technical side of F1.

[@Nemi9]

I guess they really Massi-ed up

[@harrycroston1410]

The Tsunoda episode literally climaxed at a P6 in Hungry and they made it out like he’d turned things around and all his 1 week of hard work had paid off

[@esciteach7997]

thank you for putting this here . . we do go back even tho vid was 11 days ago

[@MAH18999]

And they used the same footage on several episodes. IMO this is the worst of the 4 so far.

[@solersyst3m]

@paper plane the championship battle wasnt really a battle in 2018

[@joshmaude5287]

Can’t wait to watch the cars downshifting through au rouge

[@konradandrag845]

Underrated comment

[@TheGravyMonster]

Whilst screaming along like a V8 or V10

[@DanLMH]

Simple thing F1/FOM/FIA etc should do, make sure there's no bull$*it fakery in the series.

[@lxcien4867]

@@DanLMH Then the avg DTS fan will unfortunately not watch it…

[@freeski919]

@@DanLMH why? Realize that DTS isn't for us. It's aimed at bringing new people into the sport. New fans have no clue that Eau Rouge/Raidillon is taken flat out. And the sounds of shifting gears sounds better to the uninitiated. That's why all the cars in Fast and Furious movies have 384 gears.

[@MoonlightGuidance]

Safe to say that if we want actual entertainment... you may as well watch the whole F1 season again rather than DTS 🤣

[@kimi1845]

Honestly. Cant say dts ever really impressed me. If you know whats actually going on and the interviews and drama seems fake, it’s simply a poorly written and directed show. Blows my mind how Netflix dont care about realism in what they claim is a documentary

[@enur2542]

@@kimi1845 jup, problem is that its made. to get people into f1, but i still get frustrated at it lol

[@Randomvideos-zi7pe]

@@kimi1845 floz's version is so much better.

[@miguelgamboa922]

Yeah

[@soostdijk]

Yes, see “the eight and one” here on YT

[@h.a6154]

My mouth fell open when he said it was the worst season yet. I can’t take it.

[@somedonkus69420]

Yeah big bummer. Season 3 was honestly just not very interesting or good so I was hoping for something better for season 4 but it seems to be even worse..

[@mamavswild]

Hmm. Other review were good so I guess I’ll watch it myself

[@azzifyy5988]

S3 was a load of shit, over dramatised, fake rivalries, fake radio messages. When you trick people in to becoming fans it leaves a bad taste.

[@Cavi587]

Too much fakeness in DTS. Even if previous seasons. They weren't too great. But if he says S4 if worst so far I don't think it's worth watching. In general it's good DTS brings in new fans. But at the same time, they lure people in with the fakeness and bullshit setting stupid expectations. Then these people start following F1 themselves and think it's boring. Because half of what's in DTS is over-dramatized and staged in a way to be entertaining from a storytelling standpoint. Which doesn't make sense because it's a sport. Sport is like that. Sometimes there are just boring seasons. Sometimes as exciting as 2021. 2022 is probably gonna be wild.

[@thesunnynationg]

DTS is way overrated and exaturated

[@VJ-qz3pt]

I definitely agree with what you said about how much more “staged” this season felt. Specifically- every conversation between Horner and his wife, the lunch meeting between Toto and Bottas; not to mention that every behind-the-scenes moment involving Russell seemed like propaganda. It was bad 👎🏻

[@earthling_parth]

I hate that they're giving Horner's wife and family more screentime than actual legends of players like Vettel, Alonso, or Kimi ffs. Show some real players who actually do impact the sport and not deliveryman, maid, family discussions of people who are in second or third circle of people actually interacting or making the sport

[@aaweshwagholikar4269]

Best season of F1 & Worst season of DTS Understandable.

[@lucadeeley8377]

I haven’t watched it. But I doubt it could be worse than season 2. That was ass. I’m hoping I’m wrong here.

[@Ez420]

Your profile photo made me thing my camera notch was upside down.

[@Yourmawsyourda]

Ying and Yang Chalk and cheese

[@bodyimpairer]

could have been the best f1 season by a mile, but after abu dhabi it was arguably the absolute worst

[@kityhawk2000]

@@lucadeeley8377 I thought season 2 was ok but got bored of season 3 and stopped watching halfway through.

[@LiveIRLViewer]

Matt: "This is the worst DTS yet." Normies: "How could they do this to us?" F1 Fans: Celebrating and watching Floz docoumentary for free!

[@daackmpoy]

God damn that Floz doc is the best thing out there, it's a shame he only involves 2 drivers

[@kirankv7274]

this floz 2021 doc is worse imo.search for ysp productions , his trailer looks promising

[@daackmpoy]

@@kirankv7274 The trailer looks great but there's no video and Floz already delivered. I hope dts isn't as bad as mat says.

[@ranganeek6766]

EP9:He just brake tested me EP10:Noooo Michael Noooo that was so not right

[@C8mon]

I really hope those are the episode titles lol

[@armadillolover99]

But they have to spell Michael the way Toto pronounced it, Mykeel. Also fingers crossed they included some of the legendary FIA-Team radios like “Michael I just sent you an email with a diagram”

[@GARBO96]

You forgot to mention how often Susie Wolff is interviewed. For somebody whose only involvement in Formula One is being married to somebody involved in the sport she's interviewed quite a lot in the first three episodes

[@LELIE-]

I found that really strange as well. Too many Mercedes voices in this season.

[@LELIE-]

@paper plane - But Geri was just there when they were filming Christian. It was never really a 1-on-1 interview in that “black room” as an expert or whatever. Unlike Susie.

[@jondoe1571]

@@LELIE- to be fair Susie was a race car driver and is a team principal in formula E much more of an expert compared to the spice girl

[@LELIE-]

@@jondoe1571 - I’m not doubting her knowledge or experience. I just don’t know why they involved her. She speaks on behalf of the Mercedes F1 team, but she doesn’t work for them. So in this context, Susie’s just the wife of the team principal. They didn’t invite DC or Webber for RBR or anything. Even Helmut wasn’t there. So why Susie?

[@inflatable2]

How did they manage to make the worst Drive to Survive season from one of the best F1 season's in recent history? The mess with editing and jumping around with chronological orders etc makes you think they have no clue about F1, or think their watchers don't, and just want to show drama.. It's the main reason why Verstappen doesn't like it and doesn't want to be part of it, way to much random editing and dramatized nonsense..

[@John-ok8ts]

Because they have no access to the top teams and outside the top teams very little happened.

[@indiantwistr8036]

Have you seen it?

[@sigmablock]

Honest hot take, lack of the masses convincing DTS to listen to F1 Fan feedback to make it palatable for both newcomers and longtime fans. I mean think about it, if people got in arms shouting #wesaynotomazepin, people should and could've made a hashtag like #listentothefansdts or something and try. But eh people hence shrug.

[@divyanshtiwari3547]

@@sigmablock haha

[@freeski919]

@@sigmablock DTS isn't for longtime fans. It's made to draw new people into the sport. In that way, it's been wildly successful. I really don't care about how good or bad DTS to me, as long as it keeps doing the job of expanding the sport.

[@aharonschacht4213]

In the Ending scene of Episode 10 Toto Wolf looks and talks like a Bond villain. And even as a Mere fan I gotta say they were pretty biased towards Mercedes regarding all the controversies

[@pimhafkamp8227]

Facts

[@InekeD81]

My first thought was: hey, they’ve replaced Lawrence Stroll with Toto Wolf as the Bond villain! Honestly, Toto looks like a mourning vampire dressed all in black.

[@ivorojvar]

Yep, they really wanted to show that Merc is somehow the underdog and that they were always right, it was very hard to watch tbh

[@kristieolson6045]

Said to my husband “and then Toto became lord vader”.

[@meeskranendonk2445]

@@kristieolson6045 whahaha

[@yungjaypee]

So disappointing, 2021 season had everything lined up for a great DTS

[@luuduonghy659]

This will be the last season of Drive To Survive Rumors had inform F1 will be terminated contract with Netflix shortly afterwards. It is unknown why

[@madhavisingh9046]

Of all seasons for DTS to be shit, how can it be 2021 ?

[@luuduonghy659]

@@madhavisingh9046 Maybe F1 had enough with Netflix

[@delishdida]

@@madhavisingh9046 probably because they couldn't talk about the biggest thing of last year. No max and I think Lewis is staying mostly away too. So the show is just bound to be meh. Everyone was hoping the two principals would be enough for the show but I guess they were busy ir not enough to translate the 2021 season to the dts s04. If more and more drivers stay away from the show I guess maybe it's time to say goodbye to the show after all

[@clover9525]

@@luuduonghy659 not likely, netflix is already filming for this year.

[@armadillolover99]

After hearing Matt’s thoughts on the new season, I think the next steps for DTS should be to make it more like HBO’s series Hard Knocks (which for those who don’t know, follows different NFL teams behind the scenes every year) which I assume was the inspiration for DTS but does everything so much better. Hard Knocks is successful largely because they have so much less manufactured crap than DTS and the manufactured crap they do have is largely PR stuff from the teams, not bullshit soundbites that are cobbled together from years before. Drivers like Max might be more willing if they know that there’s less fake bullshit and that any drama is real or at least close to what reality seems from the outside looking in.

[@nazart7830]

They are digging their own graves, if they were honest with the editing and didn’t create false drama, the drivers we want to see would actually agree to be in the show.

[@rederik99]

I feel like they may need to add in some up and coming F2 stars next year, the politics behind actually getting in the game

[@rafarafina]

“We want to see” lol speak for yourself, that voice of his that sounds like his balls didn’t drop yet and his arrogant, he can stay out.

[@ScottMoyse]

@@rederik99 that's a great idea!

[@samsouthall8443]

@@rafarafina cry

[@rafarafina]

@@samsouthall8443 who’s crying ? Those crying for Max?😂twa t

[@jonmarkus9627]

After watching the first 5 episodes myself I must say I 100% agree with what you are saying. Crazy to me how one could have probably the best formula 1 season of all time and turn it into something that feels boring, repetitive and without any real substance.

[@maamrb5]

A. Freaking. Men

[@esciteach7997]

thank you for commenting here; was hoping a fan who watched would give their opinion.

[@PR-de7vj]

@@esciteach7997 worth watching for the last 3 episodes, it’s a rush of adrenaline the way they showed the title clash between Max and Ham.

[@esciteach7997]

@@PR-de7vj I can't . . . Masi literally took (stole) the title from Lewis; leading by 13 seconds with 3 laps left; can't watch again . . Nascar at new banked Atlanta and Indy at Texas this Sunday (I know; F1 race #1)

[@PR-de7vj]

@@esciteach7997 I hear you. It’s painful for Lewis fans. I was disappointed too the way it all happened but happy Max got it. It would have been a treat had it been a clean race.

[@Carameliciousx]

The fact that they made this the worst season of DTS when this has been the most exciting and tense season overall 💀

[@lunardestruction]

The season itself was a tad overhyped imo, because it seemed like there were a lot of new F1 fans who were just losing their minds and wanted to tell everyone about it. With that said, it was the most exciting season in the hybrid era, and there were like 5 or 6 individual sessions(races and quali) that were pretty epic(the forced BS at the end not withstanding). So there was definitely material to work with.

[@charliepartridge7]

@@lunardestruction It was more than 5 or 6 surely🤣 Bahrain Imola Spain (wasn’t exceptional but exciting) Baku France (similar to Spain Silverstone Hungary Spa quali Monza Sochi quali and last few laps Brazil Qatar was good not great Jeddah And then the farce at the end

[@Randomvideos-zi7pe]

@@lunardestruction I don't blame that the season is overhyped because the past few years were simply the rivals of said year trying to beat mercedes fell through before the end. But I agree that the new f1 fans, probably from DTS, thinks like they know everything from just these past few seasons alone.

[@Nave6W]

Because it was dramatic already - and they probably tried to make it more dramatic which would make it awful

[@GT1Zero]

It wasn’t even bad. Honestly regular F1 media overhyped the title fight way more than Netflix ever did.

[@mech-animal8]

Watched the whole season. Couldn't agree more. Worst DTS ever. Unorganized, absurdly laid out, and just boring. How can they screw up DTS S.4 after the most exciting, interesting, fulfilling F1 season in a generation? And yet they do. On the good side I don't have to count the days anymore for the DTS release date........DTS is dead. The sport and its actual stories are far more enriching. Way to Netflix, you sunk your own ship.

[@Wriwnas1]

I know right? I was so excited! The champoinship was soooo dramatic and diverse and half the stories/wins/podiums/drivers are not even mentioned. Not at all. But for extremely few behind the scenes stuff we didn't know but kinda expected (Russel/Bottas, Mazepin's dad's money/attitude etc), the S4 totaly failed to portray even a tiny bit of that amazing year... especially on but even off the track.

[@esciteach7997]

thank you for commenting here, as someone who watched

[@camejuanm]

Really appreciate the honesty. I was expecting an underwhelming season and this video confirms that. I mean after watching the real thing which was very great, it's not going to be easy to make a great Netflix series.

[@Bzorlan]

I was expecting it to be the best dts season. Didn't expect them to be able to mess it up after such a good season of f1

[@Alexander20091988]

​@@Bzorlan well, the mess up is partly because many drivers dont want to talk openly or to even participate at all. so no surprise here if you consider max not doing interviews and lewis barely giving any valuable information. :D

[@kielanpilgrim]

I’m stunned that they just glossed over Baku, would’ve been a lot of material. Sergio’s w, with gasly and Vettel rounding it out could have made for a great opportunity to talk about those teams. Also, a chance to talk about both of the leaders falling out of points. Like, they just skipped so much I was kinda cheesed.

[@KingArthas]

I think that Matt's negative opinion is a good thing, because my expectations (and most of us F1 fans) were flying to the moon regarding this season. So now that the bar is set pretty low, we might actually enjoy the content! Always the optimist...

[@SentinelxPrime]

Unlikely, you will probably dislike it

[@yahyarajaee5883]

This is true though. Because the season was so good that even if it’s a season review, we’ll be able to enjoy it now that the bar went downhill

[@Sheraad190]

From Netflix perspective, why do their best again? They already got records of attendance and sold out tickets at some races last year.

[@katep973]

I like your attitude. Why be pessimistic? Anyhoo it must be difficult for Netflix to get behind the scenes now dts is so popular, it's amazing they get to do anything at all. People are dreaming if they think Netflix can deliver what they really want - no top team would agree to it due the pr risks of defamation, surely? There's a lot of sponsors paying big big money, the politics must be crazy. With that in mind I appreciate that we have any documentary at all.

[@rinodb83]

After the poor third season and the fact that Max would not be in it I kinda had already low expectations. I'll watch anyway just to wait for the new season to start the week after

[@FlagnarBoobz]

Matt I’ve regained my respect for you. Someone needed to publicly speak out about how shit they’re making DTS and I’m glad a platform as big as this is speaking out. Hopefully they get a new team in!

[@Badger7824]

Out of curiosity, what made you lose faith in Matt in the first place?

[@LlocQ]

DTS is the show that got me back into F1 (haven’t watched since Schumacher’s last year with Ferrari) and I will always have a soft spot for the show but it seems it goes downhill every year.

[@farishanafiah8461]

Same with me. I restarted watching F1 since 2020 because of DTS.

[@alvarodiaz779]

Same here. I watched for however long Montoya was in F1 and came back last year.

[@junilog]

Exactly. I started in 2007, stopped watching in 2012. DTS brought me back

[@nicksarchive]

Agreed! Season 1 was great with real behind the scenes moments you never get to see. 2&3 never touched on that and made it seem like a highlights reel for the entire season :(

[@noahd.4551]

@@junilog Why on earth did you stop watching in 2012? It was one of the best seasons of all time

[@ShinyOwen]

"Bit of a negative feeling" says Matt "Wet Blanket on a Thursday". Good to hear your feedback though! Now I can go into my watch with tempered expectations. I really appreciate the honest review.

[@lucadoengez5239]

Episode 9: Thats some dangerous driving Episode 10: Its a motor race Episode 11: Toto vs Michael (Boxing eachother)

[@aretrograde7745]

We went car racing.

[@kanolightracer5]

British media: Rules aren't correct if Lewis didn't win

[@s-pracing8514]

The said "car racing" not motor racing...as it should have been

[@vaibhavkulkarni8257]

@@s-pracing8514 Masi: Toto,its a motor race. Toto: sorry? Masi: we went car racing.

[@StacyODell]

I would love to see a longer season, with an episode for each of the teams focused mostly on the behind the scenes drama, and then a giant episode at the end recapping the season.

[@TeamRelsonGracieFL]

It seems that most of the people we want to hear from in DtS aren’t there: No Seb, Verstappen refused to be interviewed, etc. - the only teams that seem to grant access are those with little to lose. Should we rename the show Back of the Pack?

[@yoeriw7099]

Because they don't want everything they say twisted up for entertainment purposes. They should have gone with a more docu approach maybe? Keep stuff chronological even when going with a story from like one driver. I also understand that they had some more trouble over the last 2 years to get access to the teams due to covid but their way of trying to stage things doesn't help either.

[@freeski919]

It actually makes the title of the show even more accurate. Teams like RB and Merc, Drivers like Hamilton and Verstappen aren't driving to survive. Their futures in the sport are secure. Drivers like Giovinazzi and teams like Haas literally are driving to survive.

[@IvanCherganski]

We see a lot of verstapen throughout the year and l personally couldn't give a toss what Vettel has to say so l don't mind the focus on all the side rivalries. We had enough manufactured drama between Lewis and Max during the regular season and l don't need to see that again

[@andyandy7332]

+ Danny Ric messing around

[@alanjm1234]

They declined to be interviewed because they've seen how DTS twists people's words. Which should be a guide to you when you watch other drivers interviews. Don't believe what they show!

[@MrHdelc]

I never would have thought that after one of the most exciting seasons in the F1 history it could be possible to have a bad DTS season. But they did it! Why inventing all these rivalries and side stories when you had the main rivalry between Max and Ham? That is what 2021 F1 season was about!!!! I'd rather watch the full 2021 F1 season again than waste my time in DTS. It might be good for sport, it might bring more fans to the sport, but for real F1 fans, i don't think it is what would keep us entertained.

[@danielbaldino2807]

Just my opinion, but of the 8 episodes I would have liked to have seen the focus of each one as follows: 1 - Keep the same as is (opening race + testing) 2 - Haas episode (keep as it is currently) 3 - Follow McLaren and Daniel's struggles vs Lando before finally winning in Monza (plus show big celebration at MTC) 4 - An episode following the drivers who changed teams (Sainz, Alonso coming back, Checo adapting) 5 - Alpine episode mixed with Aston Martin (Ocon's win and Vettel's podium in Hungary, Alonso podium in Qatar and El Plan) 6 - Bottas vs Russell all season 7 - Baku, Silverstone, Hungary and Monza Max vs Lewis 8 - Yuki's struggles and Pierre killing it. Also follow Williams brilliant stretch of races towards end of the season

[@superxavxii421]

In general they should have done an episode about Yuki and his pov through the season

[@tanyaghosh1311]

@@superxavxii421 i don't really see why. He was not the only rookie on the grid, plus he just performed underwhelmingly. If you were to do an episode comparing him to Gasly, it would be humiliating.

[@yagermeister1303]

I doubt they show much of Alonso, take into account the fact that Amazon Prime Video has a show of Alonso (FERNANDO)

[@miguelgamboa922]

Instambul park? Number two drivers shining :/

[@simpskywalker7216]

hire him netflix

[@avender93]

D2S really did a great job with the Perez episode, especially in terms of dramatic like build up, the seat being lost then going from last to first.. like I wish they could achieve that level of storytelling with DRic, because when you watched the Checo ep you really came along for the ride and FELT something you know.. darn

[@CHLBUTTERWORTH]

They were given one of the best and most covered seasons ever and this is what they have done with it? F1 should go back to making it's season review DVD's with driver interviews.

[@ras_732]

I still have the Blu Ray 2012 Season. That's a gem of a season in superior quality.

[@zohairkhan4098]

i haven't heard about these, where can I find them?

[@swanlake9000]

@@zohairkhan4098 If u just want to watch, so many season review are in youtube like from bbc or such. Just search and watch it, last time i see it there is season review 2010, 2012, 2016, etc that some banger

[@chiefdenis]

Michael masi out did them this time

[@CYMotorsport]

6:40 thank you ffs I feel like someone went “right let’s make this as confusing as humanely possible”

[@LPChipi]

God how can they mess this up! They don't even _need_ any new ideas, they just need to compile the material and interview the teams. Its not like they're writers for Grey's Anatomy or something like that.

[@MrHdelc]

They should offer a master class “How to ruin something that had a guaranteed success”

[@ron4431]

I am a new F1 fan, I have decided to watch the races this year after watching the first three seasons of drive to survive in a month. I can totally say, the show brought me into the sport, eagerly waiting for season 4 and the races to start.

[@katep973]

Don't let the F1 fans get you down, keep enjoying the sport, just be mindful that all the personalities presented in DTS are constructed through editing, and then carry on and enjoy it anyways.

[@ron4431]

@@katep973 I don't have friends and certainly not any friends who watch F1 haha so there is nobody to say me anything but yes probably if I wouldn't have watched DTS, I probably wouldn't have enjoyed the sport because DTS showed me the various rivalries, the goals, the aims of teams etc. Also due to DTS my favorite drivers are chosen not by just their driving and how many times they get podiums but also their humour and personalities but as you said those are heavily edited so I should be mindful. Thanks a lot

[@mirnayamilethrivera8439]

@@ron4431 sorry to tell you but some of the rivalries like Norris and Carlos or Daniel and Max are complete and utter rubbish that are specifically intensified just for “drama” and are not real.

[@vaibhavkulkarni8257]

I was really looking forward to s4 but now as Russell said in sakhir, I'M ABSOLUTELY GUTTED.

[@yoshifan4569]

4:50 I did that: here you go: (I just did this for fun) (Timestamps are how much time is left cus Netflix is doing stupid, also, navigating to the timestamps is hell, so be warned.) (C= only his car is visible) (Q= quote so he's saying something) (M= mentioned by name) (P= past season) Ep1 38:15 Q 38:14 Q and on screen P 37:58 CP 33:27-33:25 M and on screen 33:59 31:30 31:10 15:50 12:11-12:06 CM 12:03-11:54 C 10:36-10:25 C 10:23 C 10:19 M 10:12-10:10 Totals: Screen time: 7 sec Screen time past Seb: 1 sec Car screen time: 26 sec Car screen time Ferrari: 1 sec Quotes: 1 Mentions: 3 Ep2: 38:35 P 38:31-38:27 P 32:29-32-23 30:49-30:48 C 25:21 C 24:50 C 24:30 C 24:24-24:22 C 14:26-14:22 CP 14:21 CP 14:19 CP 14:18-14:13 CP 14:03-13:56 C and Seb P 05:44 C Total ep2: Screen time AmSeb: 6 sec Screentime past Seb: 22 sec Car screentime AM: 6 sec Car screentime Ferrari: 16 sec Quotes: 0 Mentions: 0 Ep3: 38:45-38:44 C 35:15 C 31:07-31:04 C 24:02-24:00 C 23:57 C 12:49-12:46 C 8:48-8:43 C screen time AmSeb: 0 sec Screentime past Seb: 0 sec Car screentime AM: 16 sec Car screentime Ferrari: 0 sec Quotes: 0 Mentions: 0 ep4 (by far my favourite episode until now): 37:34-37:33 C 37:27-37:24 C 20:10-20:06 C 19:12 C 18:56-18:55 C 18:20-18:18 C 9:01-8:58 C 5:26 M 5:27-5:18 CQ 4:19-4:11 CMQ 3:43-3:41 C 00:47 C screen time AmSeb: 0 sec Screentime past Seb: 0 sec Car screentime AM: 35sec Car screentime Ferrari: 0 sec Quotes: 2 (boardradio) Mentions: 1 ep5: 18:17 C 17:48-17:46 C 12:28-12:26 C 11:36-11:32 C 10:58-10:55 C 10:50-10:48 C screen time AmSeb: 0 sec Screentime past Seb: 0 sec Car screentime AM: 14 sec Car screentime Ferrari: 0 sec Quotes: 0 Mentions: 0 Ep 6: (also liked this one a lot, the season is getting better in my opinion...) 20:47-20:46 C 19:22-19:19 C 16:21-16:19 C 12:36-12:33 Q 12:33-12:27 Q+on screen 9:47-9:45 C+Seb 9:45-9:42 9:20-9:18 C 9:12 C 4:49-9:47 C 4:33 C screen time AmSeb: 11 sec Screentime past Seb: 0 sec Car screentime AM: 12 sec Car screentime Ferrari: 0 sec Quotes: 1 Mentions: 0 ep 7: (ok it's Hungary time, so that must mean a lot of screen time right?) 35:09-35:07 C 28:42-28-39 CP 28:38 CP 23:46-23:43 C 18:41-18:39 C 11:29-11:28 9:37 C 9:32-9:31 C 8:36-8:35 C 7:26-7:25 C 7:12-7:07 C 6:57-6:54 C 6:48 C 6:36-6:35 C 6:18 C 5:52-5:47 C 5:46 M 5:41 MC 5:41-5:37 C 5:38 MC 5:36-5:34 C 4:54 CM 4:55-4:53 C 4:48 MC 4:48-4:46 C 4:02-3:58 C 4:01 CM 3:57-3:56 C 3:56 M 3:54-3:51 C 3:44 CM 3:44-3:40 C 3:39-3:36 C 3:18 C 3:12-3:10 C 3:06-3:02 C 2:52 C 1:40-1:39 1:25-1:22 screen time AmSeb: 6 sec Screentime past Seb: 0 Car screentime AM: 1 min (how? omg) Car screentime Ferrari: 4 sec Quotes: 0 Mentions: 8 ep8: 36:58-36:52 CP 32:25-32:24 C 32:15-32:14 18:35 C 11:23 1:07 C screen time AmSeb: 2 sec Screentime past Seb: 0 sec Car screentime AM: 3 sec Car screentime Ferrari: 6 sec Quotes: 0 Mentions: 0 ep9: 46:32 C 26:46-26:42 C 14:20 C 12:06-12:03 C 10:56-10:55 C 10:47-10:45 C 9:10-9:08 C 8:17-8:03 C 8:14 MC screen time AmSeb: 0 sec Screentime past Seb: 0 sec Car screentime AM: 29 sec Car screentime Ferrari: 0 sec Quotes: 0 Mentions: 1 ep10: 44:55-44:53 Q and on screen 41:12-41:08 41:00 C 38:52-38:50 C 26:35-26:33 C 12:17-12:09 C 10:54-10:52 C 3:40-3:39 3:29-3:22 screen time AmSeb: 14 sec Screentime past Seb: 0 sec Car screentime AM: 15 sec Car screentime Ferrari: 0 sec Quotes: 1 Mentions: 0 Grand total: screen time AmSeb: 46 sec Screentime past Seb: 23 sec Car screentime AM: 3 min 36 sec Car screentime Ferrari: 27 sec Quotes: 5 times Mentions: 13 times Few more facts : -Green Seb was two times longer on screen than Red Seb. -61, 5% of all the times Seb's name is been mentioned was in Ep7. -We've seen Seb in the interviewbooth of Netflix for a grand total of 2 times. -Episode 5 was the shortest: 8 min and 11,2 seconds shorter than average. -Episode 9 was the longest:10 min and 30,8 seconds longer than average. -0, 191% of the time we had Green Seb on screen -0, 874% of the time we had Honey Rider on screen -1,3% of the time (5 min and 18 seconds) we had Seb/his car on screen, 22,01% in episode 7, which had the most Seb with 1 min and 10 seconds -15, 72% of the times we had Seb/his car on screen, it was him from past seasons.

[@AbhishekBansalS]

You can see that Max did have a point there, when he said that DTS is too dramaticized. Honestly, the F1 official YT Channel's Race Highlights and Team Radio Recaps got me hooked onto the sport; but Netflix DTS was also a major part of it. Now, DTS is just on the sideline. If we go by what you say; I don't understand why they need to add more drama to a roller-coaster of a season!

[@sion_wilson]

Crazy to think that they managed to make one of the most dramatic and exhilarating f1 seasons in decades THAT frustrating to watch 🤦🏻‍♂️ with how much this season of DTS was being anticipated with there being SO many critical points, it was extremely underwhelming

[@itu_424]

I’d like to see what Katy and Tommy think about this season, maybe in a podcast...

[@fpsreactions8481]

Toto: *proceeds to call red bull children* Also Toto: *Proceeds to act like a baby when things don't go his way*

[@sammylurker3216]

I don't think I'll be watching DTS season 4. I think the 2021 season was such a blockbuster, just watching the races should be better than any DTS season.

[@ParkedUpAnywhere]

even though I will watch DTS...you're right, the season was excellent as it was and DTS cannot do it justice in 10 episodes (or 8)

[@Kyriakoskarystinos]

I hated last season, which means im going to hate this one even more. Maybe last 2 episodes are worth a try though

[@backnine39]

I'm with you. D2S brought me back into Formula 1 after I stopped watching F1 for years. Now that i know the current crop of Drivers, I dont need this show anymore. Watching the races is enough.

[@tim9783]

you could watch the recap from FLoz

[@girin1512]

I'll just watch it to see cars go vroom

[@jeremysutton22]

As much as I'd like to see Max in dts, I fully support his decision to boycott it, and hope it leads to less artificial drama - as this past season proves trying to force the drama in sport is a bad idea

[@edenbh3609]

Let's be honest if it was Lewis you all would call him a drama queen special treatment. Ooh but Max. Max is right.

[@jeremysutton22]

@@edenbh3609 Well, yes. Wether its just or not, they have very different dispositions. This means different assumptions will be made because they are perceived very differently as people. Fair? No. How life works? Yes

[@robertkoster7448]

@@edenbh3609 Ah, the mandatory “but what if it was *insert any name* comment” that adds nothing to the conversation whatsoever

[@edenbh3609]

@@robertkoster7448 your big brains truly added a ton to the conversation. 2 points on the board mr koster

[@joshn1678]

If Max wasn't such a whiney prick like his team boss, then he wouldn't mind being in it. Luckily they show how Max didn't win the championship lol, they literally have multiple people say Max was given every opportunity to win the championship while every other driver was totally screwed by Masi. The end is basically saying Max didn't deserve to win.

[@rafaidan]

Ocon VS Tsunoda? Sounds like the randomness you expected, but he says it was a good episode so idk yet

[@Wingbar]

Ocon vs tsunoda might be more random than sainz vs norris

[@agent6599]

Lol what’s it gonna be next season? Bottas vs Norris?

[@ronan1686]

@@agent6599 Definitely gonna be Goatifi Vs Hamilton 😂

[@armadillolover99]

I’m calling 2022s random manufactured rivalries: Ricciardo vs Guanyu Zhou, Bottas vs whoever replaces Mazepin (I’m hoping for Giovinazzi, Shwartzman, Ilott or Pourchaire but it’s probably gonna be someone like Fittipaldi), Latifi vs Mick and Vettel vs Ocon

[@vaibhavkulkarni8257]

@@ronan1686 Maybe that's episode 10 where they will show how tensions increased between the great N Latifi and hamilton and how he decided to take revenge to deny ser lewis his record breaking title🤣

[@Amm17ar]

As a relatively new fan of F1, I didnt watch the previous seasons but Im through episode 5/season 4 and I really liked it. Didnt have any reference from past seasons but in terms of getting to hear and see the dramas, behind the scenes and some of the things we dont get to see through the actual season was really cool. It gave a prospective to the past season, got me to relive some of the best moments and learn more about drivers and teams I didnt really know too well. Again, never watched any seasons before this one, but ultimately, it just made me appreciate and enjoy the sport more and I think thats all you can ask for outta a docu-series!

[@shrey6496]

Here's to hoping that Matt is just joking and his real review will come out once it actually releases and it will be epic. Right, Matt? Right?

[@ved_ayy]

I DONT KNOW WHY I THINK HE IS JOKING> SOMETHING ABOUT HIS EYES IDK

[@superxavxii421]

Don't give me hope...

[@WTF1official]

Absolutely wasn't joking through any of it I'm afraid

[@Orcahhh]

@@ved_ayy i knowwwwww

[@shrey6496]

@@WTF1official Oops.

[@ToBeConcluded10]

Best season we have had in years and they manage to fuck it up? WOW

[@AranelEnMirkwood]

What folks need to remember is part of what made the 21 season great was how unexpected it was. No one would have predicted Ocon getting that win or Daniel struggling and recovering beautifully at Monza or Lando nearly winning Sochi , the entire weekend at Spa etc Netflix weren't going to necessarily be following these drivers because it wasn't where anyone expected the action to be. Plus one half of the title fight won't work with them and the other barely does... They have to make the best out of who will work with them and what actually happens when they are.

[@jordanharris5013]

This comment is spot on. In a different world the title contenders are drivers that don't mind talking honestly and openly but that's just not the case. It's not a bad thing but that's just who Max and Lewis are. Netflix can't be with every team at every track. It's unfortunate. I can see why they could've missed things during the seasons. It's a tough one. How much behind the scenes access did Netflix really have? It would be cool to see DTS writers say why they did things if this season really is that bad. At the end of the day when you don't have the title winner of one of the greatest seasons ever that really sucks.

[@Randomvideos-zi7pe]

They can work with what they have and got, but there isn't a need to turn the sport into "american", and create fake shit to misinform new fans, which they will end up with stuck up opinions and refusing to believe the words of the fans who have stuck around way before DTS came out. Ultimately it is still netflix's fault that max walked out and refuse to work them anymore because of S1.

[@jordanharris5013]

@@Randomvideos-zi7pe I do agree with what you said. I'm saying regardless of why Max isn't in DTS, it just makes it a hard sell when the champion isn't in the show when all the drama of last season actually does involve him and Lewis. I'm really hoping that ep 9/10 has some real spicy secret/behind the scenes information that we don't know about. I'm not hard to please so I'll probably like season 4

[@Randomvideos-zi7pe]

@@jordanharris5013 I heard ep 9 is gonna be leclerc's monaco heartbreak

[@jordanharris5013]

@@Randomvideos-zi7pe Hopefully they do a good job. I think it's really cool that a lot of the young drivers are very open about their feelings after certain events take place for DTS. Well at least we have 1 episode about the title. Better do a good job on it especially

[@enmiart2586]

I got into F1 really recently after binging all four seasons of DTS. The fact that season 4 was so jumbled up, messy and focused so heavily on the title fight is probably what made me go straight to getting an F1TV subscription. I wanted to see what happened to all the midfield guys I grew to love during the first seasons that were just completely forgotten about by the end of season 4. I get that is was a VERY dramatic fight between Merc and Red Bull but it stole the whole show. The other drivers were just background props. Like you point out, it felt like a dramatic recap. For me it's also much more interesting to follow the drivers rather than the team principals. In the future I'd love to get some more of the mechanics, radio operators and see more pit stop action because they deserve more recognition. The Haas pit stop drama of episode 1, season 1 was so exciting and heartbreaking and really pulled me in to keep watching. I hope they keep going and that they find a way to make upcoming seasons better. I also hope they do a respectful and good enough job that the drivers want to keep participating. It's fun to get to follow the drivers but not if it feels like they're uncomfortable or annoyed by it.

[@felixlewis3311]

DTS is getting worse I feel, S3 was like 70% at the two Austrian Gps to the point my dad was getting annoyed at the replay of the helicopter and bull footage from the red bull ring

[@Randomvideos-zi7pe]

S1 - 70% S2 - 75% S3 - 30% My ratings for the 3 seasons

[@GriggslyEntertainment]

And that same damn paddock scene. I felt part of that was limited footage and budget due to Covid, but maybe that wasn’t the case

[@JustinsWorld4U]

You can literally have highlights of the weekends, and make a good series out of it. WIth the Max vs Lewis every weekend and the midfield drama as well was perfect. I really hope it's actually decent and not THIS bad!

[@blakebarone1809]

That’s the last DTS sneak peak that you’ll get. Bravo to you.

[@PanyikPatrik]

What do you mean?

[@LPChipi]

Perhaps, but I appreciate the integrity.

[@isaacharries2693]

If it’s as bad next year I doubt he will care

[@omar-oi6zg]

He won't care.

[@BillStreetStudios]

He sacrificed that in order to save us all $15 each

[@SmalleeBigs]

Completely agree about the repetition, the amount of times we saw Barcelona was crazy

[@masoneves7643]

Immediate thoughts and opinions from watching the video: the writers of dts need to be f1 fans, not drama show writers. It also need to be more of a documentary, it needs to document what happens and give the inside scoop, not make it a drama show. And there is so much content from each race, they can literally make an episode per race, so you have to watch each episode to keep updated on things like how DR is doing mentally before monza.

[@tessa3260]

I appreciate the honesty that you give about the series. If I'm going to be honest too, I don't watch DTS because I feel like it doesn't give the same as the real sport. I love F1 and I don't want to see it ruined (with all due respect). Pity there was such disappointment, this past season was so exciting!

[@sparkypete9221]

I'm sure that the mid field teams appreciate their races treated like a championship. For them it is

[@benwilliams5760]

Sounds really bizarre and a missed opportunity for one of the best seasons ever. What a shame! Hype levels reduced by 80%...there, might just about enjoy it now.

[@kak7440]

Thanks for the honesty- l was a bit fed up with the false Lando and Carlos rivalry last year. Seemingly very little Kimi Seb and Max this year if any. Loads of Christian and Geri Horner.

[@_serpent]

Exactly! I watched that F1 season and then DTS and I was really confused. Is it possible that I completely missed that part of Lando vs Seinz relationship. That rivalry was completely fabricated just for the show.

[@henleybeach2396]

Honesty for the win!! 10/10 Matt. Drive to Survive honesty 1/10. Just the old school season reviews are more entertaining because they are accurate and genuine. Combine the old school with the all-areas-access and legit scenes etc and you've got a WINNER! Can't stand being entertained by BS like they think we are foolish enough to believe it all. Any "entertainment" element DTS gain from the BS is immediately deleted when you see the BS.

[@shomarismoak6869]

They should have an Amazon “All or Nothing” feel to the show. Maybe follow one team or just the season as a whole?

[@sigmablock]

actually Amazon did a documentary on Fernando Alonso and it was really good. I'd beg tbh for Liberty Media to let Amazon have a shot in doing a full blown F1 BTS documentary.

[@jeffodabear]

The first 3 season brought me into the sport. Now I'm a die hard fan, subbed to a bunch of KZbin channels, own some merch, and have an F1 subscription. Still, sad to hear that this season was disappointing, I've been almost as excited for it as I have been for the start of the next season.

[@EndlessMagic7]

What did you think about this year and Abu Dhabi race as a new fan?

[@bradyruth2487]

Man… after one of the best seasons in f1 history, I was really hoping DTS would step it up a notch

[@beefallah]

I think Netflix's main issue (which shouldn't be a problem) is that they now have a larger audience that has been tuning into the season do they can't get away with their previous formula. What they need to change to is the first half of the episodes to build up the frictions and duels. Then use the last half of the episodes to finish out any controversies / potential title competitions. They're trying to stick with drama for drama sake which only works if you don't know what's going to happen. However you can get away the suspense if you get the thoughts of the drivers before and in the moments of the races/championship is decided.

[@drummershi7476]

I hope it's good. Daniel and Lando relationship will be displayed- horrible 🤣

[@flouvag8199]

I mean it wasn’t great prior to monza at least

[@Randomvideos-zi7pe]

@@flouvag8199 DTS will make them look like they hate each other, which never happened. Lando just respected daniel as a racing colleague, like carlos in 2019 when he was nervous being around with his teammate.

[@sysakPL]

I must say after seeing your review, so far after 5 episodes of season 4 i am really enjoying it. Probably adjusting my expectations thanks to your lowish opinion of it helped here so thanks for that 😋

[@GloomGaiGar]

But can it be improved?

[@Justme94]

How... HOW?

[@p8ntbawlr210]

Is this really how DTS-s4 is going to play out? 2021 was one of the most action packed, dramatic seasons in recent history. I'm gonna go with lower expectations now but I've been waiting for DTS-s4 since the season ended. 🤞 hope I like it 🤞

[@kikolegaspi8474]

Being honest was great thing in a content, it gives us more information about what's going on with the series we are gonna watch. It's a fair play and risk to give the audiences a greater view on how bad or great it is. We very much love it. 💙

[@magicalninja3008]

I appreciate the honest comments. Means I'm not so hyped about it so won't be so disappointed.

[@alexanderschwab6408]

For those who don´t know, there´s an animated series called "Archer" that is a parody on James Bond. Without getting too complicated explaining it he is all of the things Bond is, but alot more "Adult"- like. Anyway! His mom in the series is the head of the agency they work at and the actress died before the series was finished. They then had to copy/paste her voicelines in the end of the season. The thing is- they did it better than Netflix ever could!

[@sirgobbledygook]

How have they wrecked this one?? It was the most fascinating season in a very long time

[@gabrielazaniboni2258]

hearing everything matt said, i’m really shocked that dts had the best footage from an OVER THE TOP season, and took it down the drain

[@79E13]

The editing of DTS makes me want to regrow my hair and pull it all out again so I'm bald again... can't wait for it to be worse 😂 Love team WTF1 sub content, not-testing stream was amazing keep it up into the best year ever! 1 mill next 🥳

[@zer0bit]

I was so excited to watch DtS season 4. Heartbroken 🥺

[@lewis8552]

It's been going downhill since after season 1. The improvements most fans were expecting to see after season 1 was the editing and more authentic season storylines. But they've went the complete other way since season 1 making it worse each season. It slowly feeling like a WWE made documentary. Season 4 being the worst so far makes sense given the direction they've went past seasons.

[@catherinemorgan7836]

💯% 🎯🎯🎯

[@narutokunn]

F1 KZbin channel followed by D2S (S01 and S02) were the reason I became a fan of this sport.

[@joerobertson8034]

I wonder if the FIA needs to step in and tell teams to allow more behind the scenes access to the Netflix team. I also feel like maybe Netflix needs a larger filming crew so that they can capture more footage instead of relying on race footage and team radio.

[@Wouter-van-der-Molen]

"I wonder if the FIA needs to step in and tell teams to allow more behind the scenes access to the Netflix team" You are missing the point, at the beginning they had a lot more access but then they stated to fuck it up with fake drama and just taking reality and turning it into something else. Which as a driver/team you just dont want. They got plenty on their plate managing the real drama let alone some fake drama that was made up in some editingsuite.

[@kennedykiboi9152]

They don't need FIA. They can talk to F1 CEO (Domenicali) who will communicate to the team principals

[@paulhornig6703]

I think it's the best season so far

[@hoonglianghew8837]

They have the material but they still try to change the flavor. It just makes no sense. And yes I agree with you Matt when you said DTS is more of marketing stunt than an actual documentary in the later seasons.

[@Chyeahokay]

This is why I like this channel. Particularly you Matt. You are honest

[@alexcarolan8825]

So maybe we are better off watching Floz' great video on the 2021 season instead .

[@ahmadalmajid6860]

Agreed

[@kennbosch]

Sucks that there was no mention of alonso's defence against hamilton, kimi's retirement, and the fact that there was no closure on the ferrari vs mclaren battle for third. This season was all over the place definitely the worst season out of the 4.

[@bilboswaggings]

I like the concept, but as long as it doesn't show the actual reasons F1 is good it's shit Like it was amazing to watch Leclerc not get injured from the crash, but they inject sound isn't it more impressive that some p8 for Ocon is important, nah lets change the race to try and deceive fans

[@lukasthelight]

This commentary is one of the funniest and most honest reviews I have ever seen. Loved it! Can't wait to have a flashbacks to this video when I am watching it next week :D

[@flyingsushi313]

This is sad to hear. The first season of DTS was so raw, after that they went downhill trying to chase/fabricate drama. I'll still watch it though

[@cococardenas]

How DTS managed to screw up this season is beyond me, probably the greatest season in recent history. It was a disaster, missing the best stories of the season and applying some “questionable editing” to say the least.

[@adrianmartinez144]

Last season, they barely touched upon Gasly out-dragging Hamilton for 3rd in Brazil. The emotions in that moment were INSANE and the show mostly passed it by.

[@sirmalcolmhd9150]

That was 2019 bro

[@kityhawk2000]

Yeah... they probably barely mentioned it because it happened 3 year ago 😒

[@schl0moti0n]

I think what Drive to Survive should do is for every episode follow one of the 10 teams with the first episode being whoever finished 10th in the constructors to the last episode being the constructors champions. That way you can follow the team, follow how they progress through the year, their drivers rivalries and get that season from their perspective and so it’s better formatted rather than just jumping around everywhere

[@johnjosmith42]

*HOW* only ten episodes from *THAT* season ?? … Netflix missing a trick as per sigh sigh

[@umey3445]

There was 10 of every other one too. The subjects episodes they do are pre determined before they know what’s gonna happen because they can only have a limited number of cameras and crew. Hence why they fabricated this tsunoda/ocon rivalry where it didn’t really exist, that would have been who they were following at the time and wanted to use the footage. Also verstappen refused any interviews so it would be hard for them to give the title fight the attention it deserves and the insight into red bull

[@BrettJones27]

Soooo... a Formula 1 behind-the-scenes series put together and edited by TV professionals and not someone who knows F1. Thanks for the brutal honesty, mate. This is why we always watch WTF1 in this house. Sounds a bit like the experience of watching the movie 'Rush', and every time I groaned, the wife sighed, turned to me and asked, "Okay, what really happened?" Like Rush, it sounds like a TV series made to be a "dramatic TV series" and not a true look behind the curtain.

[@iamsupahflyyy]

So disappointing to hear this! DTS is what got me into F1 and I was so excited to watch S4, having actually followed the F1 season. And it’s not like there was a lack of storylines… If it indeed lost its fly on the wall, seemingly authentic lens, that’s a missed opportunity to bring in more fans. It sucks too that it seems like a lot of characters and non-championship related stuff got cut out, because all those little bits are what made 2021 all the more fun and exciting. I’ll still watch it though… LOL

[@khushalimehta2489]

i am on episode 5 so far and i have genuinely been struggling watch 10 mins mins of an episode at a stretch, its so bad :/

[@NewEraMuzikk]

Can't wait for the Mercedes car with the honda PU sound and the Ferrari with the Mercedes PU sound. Oh yes and the car inside a corner but sounding as not even lifting

[@thesaintscorner4490]

😂😂😂

[@H2kPat0]

Appreciate your honesty, i didn't liked DTS after season 2 so guess that won't change! no reason to watch it

[@HunterCihal]

Drive to survive season 2 is what got me hooked on Formula 1, immediately started watching the next season afterward. It was such a blessing to discover the sport, before I never got into football or any other sport.

[@selder_7]

Appreciate the honesty. I’ll still watch it but good to have tempered expectations. I think DTS is still good for F1 overall just to pull people in, but if you avidly watch the race and follow the news then it’ll feel off

[@robertsmith4474]

When Hamilton played the race card in the Tipping Point episode, I switched over to the new The Last Kingdom season.

[@aimeemcdonald1581]

No such thing as a ‘race card’

[@OllyGibbonsVideos]

MotoGP’s version “MotoGP: Unlimited” is out on the 14th March. Maybe as an F1 fan you should try watch that and see if that’s any better. Would be interesting to see if it has the same affect on new fans as Drive to survive did have?

[@sachabaysal1545]

Where can I watch this?

[@marvinlawrence]

@@sachabaysal1545 Amazon Prime....

[@Jackbyrne77]

Wow!! Love the honesty. Proper respect to you Matt. Personally don’t like DTS because I know the sport well enough that the contrived BS and mistakes just jump off the screen. Sounds like this season is no different.

[@adarshas6444]

Yeah....completed watching DTS 4 and I too have the same opinion. Honestly, I didn't enjoy this season like the previous ones. DTS was the experts in making drama out of nothing in the previous seasons, but failed to capture the abundant ACTION & DRAMA PACKED 2022 F1 SEASON.... I mean, apart from some backstage conversations, the 2021 F1 race highlights are even more exciting to watch than this year's DTS. Moreover there is hardly any contents about Raikonnen, Giovanazzi , Vettel, Checo's Mexico win, Tire blowouts in Baku GP, Aston martin contents. The Russian GP drama is not as detailed as expected, Hamilton being stuck in Monaco GP, where he lost 2 or 3 positions because of badly timed pitstops, Vettel's superb drives in Monaco and Baku, are all neglected......Don't know why..... Overall I was left HUNGRY for MORE.....WORST DTS SEASON.

[@redcobra1246]

"Tsunoda is the goat" I'm speechless

[@bakuri2804]

How did they manage to mess up such a juicy season? I was honestly going to watch d2s because of so much drama last year