My HONEST Thoughts about the US SHUTDOWN ✤ Watcher of Realms

[@JamesBallor-j1x]

Absolutely no chance Moonton wasn't aware this was gonna happen. This game has lived off deceptive practices.

[@dooddough8221]

If this isn't remedied it will adversely affect the entire gacha game industry. People will no longer trust investing in these types of games.

[@justinmorales726]

but since its gambling from the start people will inevitably spend anyway cause we cant control ourselves.

[@DigitalPurpleHeart]

​@@justinmorales726I was going to say the same thing...don't underestimate the degenerate spender

[@Fugula]

Gacha games are garbage from the get-go.

[@hirozhen7475]

@JWeb-y2l He got the ball rolling on a ban during his first term then flip flopped because one of his billionaire donors is heavily invested with tiktok. Now that the Congress is Republican controlled he will try to make them reverse it but that will take time. Bytedance pulling games from the US is just petty.

[@corvStifun]

​@JWeb-y2l he is the one that started in his last mandate, so yes he can 😉

[@Matthew_Lemus]

This is really sad for me because I've invested a lot of my time into Watcher of Realms. By the way I didn't expect you to not have the eye patch on as I was trying to catch up from your old videos, you look great. I really really hope something is done to return Watcher of Realms back to the US, and I really do hope the compensation they give better be freaking good. Regardless if you stop playing this game Suzie, you'll still have my support and I will continue to watch your videos.

[@SuziPlaysYT]

Yeah it was actually an interesting dev insights! I recorded this a few days ago but delayed posting it with all the big news

[@Matt-Ledford]

Of course they knew, they had to write the code for the login page, they had to set up links, they had to make rules for their firewall, etc., etc. The set up for this took a week minimum. I've been saying for months that they are dirty.

[@QueenNiQa]

They knew 100%

[@ruckusgames9725]

@@Matt-Ledford I didn’t even think of that, good call out that makes it worse.

[@Shorrey]

Developers and community managers are not the same people. So the top severla layers of the management knew for sure, but the people whose job is to communicate those things might not have known.

[@blckswrd4216]

Everything that you stated can be done in less than an hour, in anycase the original ban was directed to tiktok only and bytedance responded by blocking everything they own. Us does dirty to their people and they dont want to give that power to other countries. Wake up.

[@Matt-Ledford]

@@Shorrey Highly doubtful, it's quite a large company. If what you say is true, that would imply that their internal communications is abysmal. Like I said, with all the angles that have to be covered to exclude a whole country from playing a game (on multiple platforms no less) was no simple feat. They had to hold meetings about this, delegate tasks, report progress, hold more meetings. Their programmers knew for sure, their network engineers knew for sure, their system administrators knew for sure. They didn't neglect to tell their people. What they did do was give their people explicit instructions to keep their mouths shut about it.

[@msrivette]

100% they knew.

[@7duke77]

One thing is certain, if(when?) the game comes back to the US, I will NEVER spend again!

[@kelvicmar]

Suzi, I discovered you because of Watcher of Realms, but I'll stay subscribed to whatever you move onto next. I love your content.

[@brettskinner5824]

For her she needs to cut ties with this game not support deceptive corrupt company

[@iTz_T27]

The fact that they didn't even let us know this was a possibility is extremely disappointing. Especially when they knew the whole time and allowed people to spend money for nothing. That is bogus asf. You will still have my support, Suzi, regardless. But im strongly considering just giving up on this game even when it comes back. This is ridiculous.

[@SuziPlaysYT]

Yeah it's rough :(

[@RealBadDaddy]

I feel exactly the same way.

[@loganwood7990]

If this ever gets resolved I SWEAR the rewards we get in that mailbox better be epic asf

[@SilentKnight12]

VPN is great

[@loganwood7990]

@@SilentKnight12 ill pass thanks tho

[@alfonsodittrich6814]

You should still make content for the rest of your viewworship who aren’t in the US. Just don’t focus solely on WoR other wise you’ll lose the rest of the world who watch you 😮

[@dragosdoreldumitru6633]

​@@SilentKnight12i hope Bytedance will find a way to block those soon

[@navyt6380]

​@@loganwood799020 crystals in one mail, 1 summoning shard in another 😂

[@Goodenhi323]

Oh they gonna feel it from all the chargebacks

[@nightsounds8366]

The CC contact said they “didn’t know” but they’re obviously not gonna admit they knew because then they could be sued for negligence and a bunch of other things. But I’m 110% sure they knew

[@Nathan_Coley]

@@nightsounds8366 Exactly this! I'd suggest to everyone that cares try to go through Google Play & get a refund.

[@roundtrip385]

I believe you're right. This is why I unfollowed everyone but Suzi and will be leaving the game permanently

[@anthonywilliams5475]

Omg this is nuts. So the money I spent is just wasted. Wow

[@morgans.8686]

Wait until Trump arrives. Maybe he'll do something....(not that I like Trump but considering that Biden and his team whats to force TikTok to be sold without there consent it seems legit for Chinese gov to counter with this kind of stuff. Even if like usual, it's us who must pay the price for thoses foolish s*it)

[@devinnakata3350]

Just download VPN

[@karsh001]

Use VPN. Several good alternatives out there. I ise Proton (paid). My favorite free option is TunnelBear for its usability. Don't assume a free VPN to be private.

[@user-id8ey5io3o]

No wait for Monday

[@karsh001]

@user-id8ey5io3o for what? Better to just use a VPN.

[@deangelo7513]

Don’t usually comment on these but hope you know we watch for you’re personality and vibes know it sucks moving on if gotta switch to a different game or genre on here but you’ll always have my support and I’m sure it’s gonna work out for you guys 🙂

[@justinbisig4760]

The amount of money I spent on last two days to pull Kuri and several other legs just completely gone. Ridiculous. It’s bs that they didn’t know

[@datriggr8287]

Of course they knew

[@cgsweat]

I've been stuck for months on the same stage in all the gear raids (19) and gear dungeons. I've basically just been playing it as a hero collector, but that was the only fun I had was getting a new champ. I picked up Artemis yesterday and wanted to see if he could get me to stage 4 in GD1, but here we are... So I was kind of on my way out anyway, but this seals the deal for me. Best of luck, Suzi, I've been watching your vids since before the name change. It's a shame that both games I watched you for are now gone...

[@anthonywilliams5475]

I'm so upset. I love wor

[@LegionDarkElves]

I’m us playing now

[@NightRavvvven]

I am actually under shock. This is terrifying. My guild is filled with people from every country, even Americans. We spoke almost everyday. This is really sad news. I hope everything comes out just fine 😭

[@acewebster9803]

How do i get a refund on the hundreds i spents

[@PxNxWxGxW]

I deleted the game. This company has zero transparency until the fans say something.

[@MellykagGopaul]

Can I have your account

[@pabbate87]

If they ban Watcher of Realms I want my money back. I’ve invested a lot in this game.

[@mattheweagle223]

I don't think you understand what an investment is

[@pabbate87]

@@mattheweagle223then they can give those “investments” back to me😉

[@jeremymahaffey2019]

I am sorry to hear about this Ivy, Und3r5c0r3 here. Hope yourself and OddOne had a safe and happy holidays. I can hear the disappointment in your voice, you are voicing what many, many players from the US are feeling right now. I hope everything works out as each person hopes it will.

[@gnarlybonesful]

the legislation is only for tiktok, it feels like bytedance is just playing chicken

[@alexdavis-mann8513]

It's actually not. The ban is aimed at bytedance what you really need to be worried about is that Tencent is next

[@shawnsiess1791]

Hopefully, a pdf of the bill is available. If it turns out they are doing this as a power play, I won't care if they open back up in the US. However without reading the legislation, there is no way to know for sure.

[@TheReviewerEntrepreneur]

Yeah no it’s a prohibition on any app owned by a foreign adversary…

[@mikehernandez5900]

WoR got caught in the drama, but also Marvel Snap, a much bigger game. I'm not certain Moonton (as a whole) knew what was going to happen. Probably some of the higher ups. Situation will be day-to-day for a while. I'm personally not affected by this too seriously, but Fastidious already pointed out how bad this already is for WoR's CC's. You have my sympathies.

[@jcor-laura5450]

That is a lot of money they are throwing away and now all US customer will not only never spend a dime with them again but likely all APAC based games. I bet RSL is drinking champagne right now.

[@ToniTerrier]

And Plarium are the scummiest of companies, they obviously have some kind of shady deal with whoever is banning all these international companies.

[@rodClark717]

First thing I thought was don't make Suzi cry

[@anthonytowne2376]

Rod what you playing next brother because our guild was just taking off

[@rodClark717]

@anthonytowne2376 hey Anthony, I'll be waiting before committing but I started playing old school Runescape again about a year ago really casually. Kinda thing you can't really finish, it's been going 20+ years lol. If y'all get on before me get ILikeEggs in, I don't wanna let him down. Until then, mi jefe, it's a wait problem lol

[@dirufanboy1971]

Damn this is wild. I've been playing WoR for 62 days and really enjoying it. I'm in NZ and all my US guild mates, including my guild master, have not been online now for over ten hours.....

[@opticgamer3731]

I hope they fix this issue.

[@CorySwole]

I was one of those idiots that didn’t read into the manage account page and am hoping and praying I didn’t delete my account. I tried to back out and cancel it but I can’t even check if it’s gone or not. I’m very nervous about whether it’s gone or not 😅

[@jayflickner7534]

Let me know if you find a game like this one we should try. I am ready to move on.

[@SuziPlaysYT]

I play king arthur on my other channel

[@hardanalljr.3138]

They didn't tell creators because they knew you would pick your audience over moontoon .You would tell your audience not to spend

[@SuziPlaysYT]

I mean no, I also benefit IF people SPEND. It's in my best interest, they do

[@hardanalljr.3138]

@SuziPlaysYT so you only care that they didnt tell you ?

[@ChozunWOR]

Hope all goes well for our US players

[@dragosdoreldumitru6633]

it is great to see that companies, countries are starting to stand againss the USA bully..

[@QueenNiQa]

all that money down the drain and I just pulled heroes I always wanted. really pissed. All those recent banners selling stuff smfh, I never been on a game like this and lost it. I never knew I would of been stopped playing or putting money in it I knew about tiktok, they knew there's no way they didn't know.

[@grahamtravers4522]

It's all money down the drain. Personally, I never spend money on these games. I have seven grandchildren who need it.

[@charles_wood_fit]

There’s literally no excuse because when it came within a month or two of this happening they should have announced the possibility of shutting down in the USA because they are under the bytdance umbrella. Or hell maybe be working on solutions like separating from bytedance or telling us about VPNs or w.e. Complete lack of transparency and complete loss of trust

[@davidling543]

For downloading your data, you're downloading your progress to save it for later , and yeah, for the states that link takes you to a different website. I hope they can bring it back here.

[@Post-Trib]

I'll be taking a break until it comes back They should have been forthright about this instead of being greedy Compensation should be far better than a free lord like last time, if it comes back

[@Slickjfootlong]

This is total BS! The fact they really didn’t let us know is a bunch of crap!

[@GrumpyOldGuy-cp7qn]

It is called fraud.

[@SuziPlaysYT]

Yeah the link is trying to get people to willingly delete their accounts and agree to terms. I don't like that

[@joker2476]

Yeah that delete account page literally has u agreeing there are no disputes. That's them trying to halt chargebacks. Scummy af

[@Bitridamus]

​@SuziPlaysYT as someone who works in IT, I looked at that link and immediately was suspicious of that URL. Did not even go to it.

[@billyp.193]

I haven't played WoR is a whole, but I play Marvel Snap, and it's down also. Without warning as well. I think it's likely the low level employees didn't know, but the higher ups knew things were gonna get shut down. I think they wanted people to keep spending money, and that's shady and shitty.

[@aaronnicholas5477]

The pre-generated message is all I need to know that they all knew. Bye wor! Hello King Arthur!

[@Keladoa]

lol until they ban that too

[@doro626]

Join my Clan ThirdStrike in Arthur. We need members.

[@doro626]

@@Keladoa But tiktok was banned, not the other games. I think Bytedance did this to prove a point. I could be wrong. I need to look at the ruling of the bans language. * edit Ok I looked at an article and the bill said that Bytedance had to divest itself from Tiktok, so it definitely seems retaliatory.

[@deanwilkinson9441]

I’m the same Suzi I left Dragonheir because of the significant pause. Since I’m from the UK, I could log back in, but by then, the game had died for me. It’s going to be a significant loss to lose such a substantial player base that happens to speak my language. I spent quite a lot in Dragonheir so it was very disappointing.

[@fractals3161]

Insane amount of chinese bots spam pulling now, not a good vibe, potentially keeping up metrics for investors?

[@Dizzinator2114]

I feel like blowing my summons just because, if nothing is done by Tuesday then…. It’s over unfortunately

[@pokedadsam9041]

I’m not sure how much advanced notice they had; but they absolutely had notice. The screen that pops up saying it’s unavailable needed coded and the controls for region coded…

[@pokedadsam9041]

Also noting, this was in their control. They had the choice to divest for the American market and they did not. This ban will also be happening in EU in the future. Netease and tencent just got sued for loot boxes; they’ll follow suit.

[@jamaicadecena7771]

Belzeebub is cursed i tell you

[@phantom24121]

Yep too far😂😂😂😂😂

[@gasstationburrito5286]

Should just make him a login reward at this point 😂😂😂

[@F2pwatcherofrealms]

Hahaha

[@ncruz591]

Bro I’ve been saving and waiting for beezy it’s been my focus since he was announced. Now I got all these resources sitting there on a account that’s blocked. Gonna miss it. Great.

[@F2pwatcherofrealms]

@@ncruz591 imagine Fasti 🥲

[@gtoconnor]

Thank you Suzi and let us know where you land. A lot of us will follow! Cheers

[@nathanprice5376]

I'm sorry for your been involved with this game

[@Baerli.Liegel]

Good morning from Germany! That's bad news for all of us. But, since they want to sell Beelzebub I think that shutdown came all of a sudden. Surely it wasn't intended by the creators. So, let's hope for a reasonable solution! Keeping the fingers crossed 🤞

[@domenicocoscia82]

im on the european server, i was just about tryin shoppin but if this appen without warning i will save my money. ty for let us know. good luck for you business

[@chrisnorby3422]

I am sorry someone knew ahead of time they would do this, they will not get me back

[@bojaylabrum9608]

Thousands and thousands of dollars gone.

[@MikeWolfMan]

I know, right? I'm not even a "whale" or "kraken" spender but I lost allot of money if I can't access my account again.

[@brettskinner5824]

Hope it gets spent well on ramen noodles I feel your pain brothers n sisters!!!!

[@thomasfrasier-l8c]

I'm angry. I was buckling down for the long haul on wor I was almost to a month playtime I just spent money because I was invested in the game long term and they did this. It makes me wonder if maybe the ban was the right thing to do. This was predatory

[@demortred]

Doesn't matter if it comes back.. I've spent over 15k.. they'll never get another penny out of me. 😢 this is definitely a death Knell for gacha across the US.

[@Bitridamus]

Charge as much back as you can.

[@SeanTallGuyInRockingChairKelly]

I can’t believe that I spent so much money on this game and now they kicked me out wtf! I am so disappointed there should have been a warning or update bout this! I guess my channel is not going anywhere with the content

[@HereFei]

In mlbb india ban, moonton made an indian version of mlbb. Lets hope they make a US version of the game.(They used a new company that is on India to make it)

[@roundtrip385]

But did it save all your progress?

[@Notjohn452]

This is off topic, but this is the main reason I quit doing micro transactions. I bought a skins and camos in cod Wz1 and they deleted the whole game a few years later. This will in this type of industry now. People will spend less because at any point you can lose everything

[@mdh8320]

Watcher Of Realms is not even in the Google Play store.

[@Mexican_America]

How could they knew if you did not knew? They are just humans too that have access to the same information we got!

[@SuziPlaysYT]

lmao pretty sure the company knows if it's going to cut access to something

[@nomadicgamer9466]

There's no coming back from this. Even if Moonton rolls any of this back .. I wanted to get back into Watcher of Realms but .. time just never let me. :( But I loved it when I did play it. And I've always missed it. I loved the tower defense hero collector. I hope more games in this genre can be made, honestly. :( It has its place. I just want more of the western high fantasy style. Even if it was just EoS, these things are always so heartbreaking and shocking to me. :( Will you be focused 100% on King Arthur content now? I miss that game, as well. I haven't got back into that one either due to time (I checked out the beta a year or so ago) but .. dang. Maybe I just need to make time and play it.

[@dragosdoreldumitru6633]

You should Say thanx to the US government for this situation...

[@eellox]

I think this it for me for not only WOR, but all mobile games. I got screwed by dragon heir and now this. I can’t trust any mobile game publishers anymore. These people had to have known this was happening and said nothing. I don’t understand what this game has to do with Tik Tok. Hell I didn’t know they owned WOR. Why can’t the game stay even if tik tok goes? It’s just a shady situation and this will affect all mobile games from here on out.

[@8463drew]

Let us know what game you are going to start playing. It's not just about the game we play; it's also about the crater we follow. This is not the end of your channel but a new beginning.

[@davidmayes3739]

Two of my main games now gone. Wor and dragonheirs. I just became disabled and these games wa going to help me recover. Dam

[@haromaster6086]

I literally just bought the $20 pass five minutes before this game got banned. 😡😡

[@BoeCrane75]

I will wait and see what they do, I have been WAY to lucky on my pulls to let it go that easy.

[@Whit-wy2ow]

Turns out all of bytedance is banned. So they knew this would happen. But I guess so would we if we actually looked it up before know. All the articles about TikTok made me think it was just the one app. So many were affected 😭

[@patrickhartigan2068]

Spent 20 dollars right before getting kicked out

[@ramiroequipilag1316]

Suzi, moving forward you should name your other games because like Dragonheir, I stuck by your videos even if I dont play them. I saw you playing Watcher of Realms and eventually started playing it. Again, I still follow your channel and still watch you and as long as your channel is well then you should still be making some money. just do what you do and try out new games for your new contents, and maybe add few items to sell like coffee mugs and T-Shirts for my favorite gamer

[@SuziPlaysYT]

Thanks! I'm covering King Arthur now as well on the other channel. For now we'll see what happens with WoR here

[@chaotic-libra]

I appreciate everything you''ve done! IMO though, to say you had a good relationship with a company that consciously and deliberately decided not to warn you or share any information after you help them build their audience... that's a one sided toxic relationship that needs to be let go. They were already doing some shady things before but this was the last straw.

[@SuziPlaysYT]

Yeah... I'm pretty angry with the lack of warning, honestly.

[@smokeout1027]

Yesss you on our side some are not so thank you for that

[@Alex-tj5in]

around 50% of the revenue in mobile gaming comes from us largely...and make sense, they print free dollars,they gotta show up somewhere

[@imherenow8]

We are your daddy, accept it.

[@Link-2025]

Sorry to hear the news

[@specialkgaming]

Another one Suzi. I'm so, so, so freaking sorry.

[@lionfan96]

I mentioned this as soon as dragonheir went down, but was hoping for the best. One thing though. This doesnt have anything to do with monopolies.. it has to do with China and the CCP and the issues around that.

[@EmoEmu]

It's likely almost all Chinese apps? Their Government owns parts of every Chinese company of a certain size and up. They probably want to make as big of a stir about the TikTok ban as possible. I think they'll all be back Monday (except for TikTok ofc.)

[@roundtrip385]

Read the bill. It says they are trying to get rid of foreign owned platforms, they do this everywhere.

[@teoraymond1724]

Dragon heir now watcher of realms. Jeesh. How much effort and money is spent? This is very morally wrong to release wukong and ban

[@ProfoundSilence]

I think you underestimate how many english speaking people are outside the us

[@NotOomay]

I think you completely missed the fucking point. Karen.

[@hotlikerobot09]

She can see where accounts are coming from from KZbin analytics

[@Werewolfgaming5629]

In reality, if this never comes back to the us i don't know what game I'm gonna play next. Probably go back to raid

[@just1fixx189]

Run it through a VPN?

[@dustindavis4923]

If it does remain banned, the game will soon die.

[@dragosdoreldumitru6633]

Maybe the 7.6b people that can play wor will Make sure that doesn't happen

[@dustindavis4923]

@@dragosdoreldumitru6633 well most of the content creators are in the US. So they’ll lose a ton of revenue and viewership.

[@caracal82]

I doubt the game will die. Being chinese company I bet there are milions playing in China. USA most likely is not their biggest market

[@caracal82]

There are a lot of people in whole of the Europe that are playing plus Asia. Nevertheless USA probably is top dog if comes to popularizing game in the west through content creators.

[@imherenow8]

​@@dragosdoreldumitru6633you must be new here. The US runs this shit. Accept it.

[@JoshuaRWorkman]

Good thing I never spent any money on this game. What sucks for me is that I just got Lyra the other day when pulling for Silas or Edith and it's possible I'll never make any further progress on the things I hadn't yet accomplished. Not deleting my account, but definitely uninstalled the game. If it comes back, I'll reinstall then and pick up where I left off.

[@Dizzinator2114]

So what are you going to cover?

[@RuaraidhMarchial]

Hence why I'd only ever play as ftp. Don't trust any company (money grabbers) or politicians just out for their power and expenses.

[@DotQB1]

Wow this is BS, they should have said something and all the time and money I put into this game. Well I guess I will move on from this game. Good Luck to you and the other content creators.

[@MWitch97]

I’m so upset especially since I spent money on this game I agree that it was very disappointing they didn’t warn us about this so many bans are happening and it’s sad to see

[@Nathan_Coley]

You might be able to go through Google for refunds.

[@ruckusgames9725]

Didn’t get Yurri but I got a lot of new Hero’s and boom game shut down no warning that sucks.

[@JLConawayII]

IP addresses in the US are banned. Your account is fine. Set your VPN to Canada and you can still play.

[@boocraft4985]

wow this really sucks... I sold my watcher of realms account like 3 months ago and someone paid over $1,000 for it and now they can't even play this game anymore due to this since they are from the US....

[@ashtonkloes1868]

I would use a VPN but I heard that most of the free ones data mine and sell your location and info stuff so idk if that’s worth it. Also not gonna spend money on a paid VPN cus I’ve been F2P since launch of this game lol not gonna start now just to play it. Also sucks cus I saved 330 summons for valentines but looks like I can’t even use it. I enjoyed watching you among the other content creators so I will continue watching with any new game you play.

[@randomlypost1205]

Wasted so much money on this game now it's gone like for real I'm so furious and sad.

[@chrismr.7035]

"Hey everyone, Suzi here! Today were going to play Call of Duty!" Just kidding, but it would be hilarious 😉 Hope you find something new.

[@Dizzinator2114]

I definitely not spent money to summon Ingrid or buy that arbiter pack

[@mikeglenn2490]

Well let give it sometime, I so disappointed. Let hope Fateless is coming soon.

[@MellykagGopaul]

GodForge

[@Hegemonic20]

I think this also has to do with genshin impact getting fined $20 million by the FTC for the same shady practices that WoR engages in

[@z6a99c]

They know they are not coming back to usa.

[@CruxalYT]

They knew, without a doubt, and chose to make incredible banners leading up to this change to milk us US customers

[@razgrizz5996]

It really comes down to whether or not people want to use VPN, i use a free one, literally just to log into the game, and then i disconnect the vpn. But some people dont want to/cant do that. Other thing is to wait until Trump is in office and see what happens with the ban, because we do not know what will happen. I definitely will not be spending anymore money on the game until we know FOR SURE what is gonna happen to the games longevity

[@Ninja_Gaiden]

which one you use?

[@dragosdoreldumitru6633]

I hope Bytedance will find a way to block those soon

[@roundtrip385]

But what happens when you need to update?

[@phile16]

aw man.. i was loving this game.. and was just starting to make head way.

[@wizarddavegaming]

Hoping for the best for the community and the CCs not the game's sake TBH

[@rickchen4119]

Just wanted to say Thank you for all of your helpful video's

[@macklyn]

Proton is also a well regarded free VPN. All the best Suzi!

[@johnathancrespo529]

They need to refund us some of our money back